I love every theories of this final scene, but my favourite will always be this one: Kevin did what he did to proof that his mother doesn't love him, but after seeing his mom is still visiting him after two years he feels confused. That's why he answers like that. He actually ISN'T sure why.
Nah he felt an instinctive anxiety that she was leaving him forever, because he was becoming an adult and his mom wouldn't have the responsibility to care for him. He felt that anxiety, and that's why he clinged to her as a last resort of a child. In the end, the mother is free from Kevin, and the name of the song that plays also gives u a hint of that.
"I used to think I knew. Now I am not so sure." He did it to torment her. That's why he let her live. Now that he is the one who is vulnerable, he feels lost.
After seeing the he whole movie I really feel horrible for Eva. Not only did Kevin leave her to suffer to most, but she now is seen as a bad person and horrible mom. None of those people even had a fraction of the Patience she had, they all would have given up Long Ago. Seeing her embrace her son who is a murder and the fact she stays close by him and didn’t disown or flee from him says a lot about what a good person she is.
I mean She was a horrible mom She never wanted him She thought there was something wrong with him from a young age and instead of taking him to a doctor to fix it she just saw it as him since he was really young knowingly wanting to make her suffer. All cuz of his blank stares, and different attitude around his father ya know the guy that didn't act like he was a monster. She threw him against a wall, broke his arm and on the drive gave an awkward apology where she talked about herself in the third person. None of this suprises me. She fucked up as a parent.
@@thruthemotions yeah, this is how i've always interpreted it. in a weird way i think he respects her for seeing through his bullshit always. everyone wants to blame eva, but i think kevin would have turned out the same (or possibly even worse, somehow) with two parents like franklin, who are so obsessed with the image of the all-american family that they ignore who their children actually are. this is explored more in the book, but eva tries to voice her concerns about kevin multiple times and is ignored by everybody.
@@jessharkness5534 true. I did listen to the full audio version narrator of the novel on youtube and they did explore that more. I wondered why Kevin killed the dad who loved him more than Eva but then I realized it probably annoyed Kevin that his dad didn't truly see him. Though Eva couldn't stand him, she acknowledged Kevin and observed him and loved him enough to see what was wrong with him. Idk if Kevin liked that or if he didn't. Remember when he smirked after she accidentally broke his arm into he film? He lied and said he fell as leverage against her but i wonder if he respected her cause of that or saw that the mom can be just as violent as he is idk.
*I always thought Ezra was just quirky but now I realize hes just genuinely unhinged and probably why he played this character so convincingly. Hope he gets put behind bars before he does something worse*
This movie is the prove that American awards don’t understand a thing about quality or talent! Absolutely ridiculous none of them won and award in America
@@jon8004 maybe if they push the envelope most Americans will improve theirs ability these kind of movies more and less the pure commercial ones because lately those commercial cinema is getting the awards more and more
@@jon8004 i still believe in the duty of educate the viewers! As also much of the movies ( action/commercial ) are made to be some form of relief making people have the feeling of accomplishment while doing nothing! If we change that to make them think would be more interesting but obviously would be worst for politics and governments and that’s the only reason isn’t done
His go-to power move was hurting his mom, because he easily could. He couldn’t get that source, if his enabling dad got full custody, so he lashed out in a violent, impulsive way. In this scene, Kevin feels insecure, so he needs to protect his ego. He needs to feel powerful. That’s why he gave that answer. He knew it would hurt his mom, and he’d always have access to her from their traumatic bond.
i like this scene because it's the only one where he shows some kind of respect and possibly love for his mother. in every other moment he is unkind to her and you feel so bad for her.
He wanted to be like her. Staring at her poster of her book. Relishing in the attention on TV. The screams as he’s being arrested almost sound like applause. Everything Kevin did was to belittle his Mother for the sake of trying to fit in her shoes because while she was actually famous, he wanted to be infamous.
It truly is an underrated masterpiece that has only gained more attention now than ever due to the actors unfortunate demise and will continue to forever til the end of time, I'm sure.
@@IMR95 Ezra Miller is the actor playing the role of Kevin. He turned out to be an actual freak. He's a groomer, he also assaulted many people, including burglary and all.
A lot of people have commented something similar, but in no way shape or form is Kevin feeling remorseful for the things he did. Kevin has now realized that for the first time in his life, he is no longer the king shark, and he is now going to be released into a place that will show him the upmost brutality. He is not sorrowful, he is completely and utterly petrified about the fact that once he goes to prison, he will be assaulted and beaten. I think his mom knows this too, and her hug is more of a ‘this is probably the last time I see you, goodbye’, and less of an emotional hug. This whole conversation is the two dancing around the mutually known probability that this conversation is likely to be their last, and that the shadow covering his face, is likely representing the fact that Kevin is going to be dead soon.
I don’t think so. The mom has never seen Kevin express any sort of vulnerability. All he’s ever shown towards her is contempt. This scene is the first time he looks to her for some kind of comfort, like a son does to a mother, and this is the first time she really gives it to him. Weirdly enough, this is the first scene in the film where they connect on some level like mother and son.
What happened to the tough guy who poured lye into his little sisters eye? Guess Kevvy wasnt so tough when dealing with other men and not little girls. Boo hoo. Poor Kevvy lol
He never had older males in his life to Right Size his Ego until he got to prison. Boys need Good Men to show them where they are on the food chain. They need to be taught that being a man means making your self strong to protect those who can't protect themselves. My martial arts instructors (safely) kicking my ass all those years was a major contribution Plus a VERY strong mother. I yelled back at my mom when I was a boy and I thought I was safe cuz it's not Dad. Uhhh.....yea...she adjusted my attitude with her right hand in 10 seconds and I never fuckin did that again.
Before the farm and the fiasco with Tokata Iron Eyes, I used to want Ezra Miller to get help, as someone who enjoys seeing them in various projects, now I want them to get arrested ASAP. There’s absolutely no way in hell they can somehow have a Robert Downey Jr like comeback performance as they’ve eradicated their career and I’m surprised their agent hasn’t dropped their chaotic ass. Sad that this role and maybe Sinclair in Invincible showed off Ezra Miller’s true colors for being an evil, chaotic and unhinged person who is in dire need of some help.
@@DrDolan What's funny about this?! Nothing. I don't care if it is based off a book, this is not a nice movie to watch every now and then. This movie is up there with Polytechnique as one of the most unrewatchable movies of all time.
@@captainhowlerwilson508 if you think this is one of the most unwatchable movies ever made you haven't seen shit, but also looks like you love MCU movies so yeah, you haven't seen shit
As if he’d just randomly go on a killing spree. Oh wait, that’s exactly what happened. Clearly he isn’t normal so you shouldn’t make normal assumptions about him.
She’s asking that because he got what he wanted. He wanted a killing spree and he got it. So saying it is perfectly valid cuz was smiling as he got arrested
@@DrDolan Really...? Ok When Kevin's dad put his penis inside of Kevin's mom's vagina, she let him ejaculate inside of her. If instead, she let him ejaculate into her mouth, also known as "swallowing" then she would not have gotten impregnated. Because the sperm would have gone into her stomach instead of fertilizing the egg, making kevin. "I wish I had swallowed" is her way of saying "I regret you were born" In turn, making fun of Kevin, the mass murdering maniac
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I love every theories of this final scene, but my favourite will always be this one: Kevin did what he did to proof that his mother doesn't love him, but after seeing his mom is still visiting him after two years he feels confused. That's why he answers like that. He actually ISN'T sure why.
That's so fucked tho. As is the whole film for that matter but yeah great theory tho, nonetheless.
That's a pretty good one.
Nah he felt an instinctive anxiety that she was leaving him forever, because he was becoming an adult and his mom wouldn't have the responsibility to care for him. He felt that anxiety, and that's why he clinged to her as a last resort of a child. In the end, the mother is free from Kevin, and the name of the song that plays also gives u a hint of that.
"I used to think I knew. Now I am not so sure." He did it to torment her. That's why he let her live. Now that he is the one who is vulnerable, he feels lost.
no shit, sherlock
What's your point
@@Leef853 Your mothers vagina 😍
@@Leef853His point is exactly what it says in the comment. Its really not that hard to understand bud
In the book he’s tried as an adult and will be in big boy prison for 5 years. The guy was shaking when he was talking to his mom.
Everyone is gangster when they put in cell with olders
Is the book any more or less ambiguous than the film. "Now I'm not so sure". Was there ever an idea?
so unrealistic he’d be jailed for life
@@tammymilda2169 you’d think so wouldn’t you
@@protalghulnist4126 if it’s that premeditated he wouldn’t be deemed lacking capacity on account of his age
Aww poor Kevvy's face. Where's the tough guy who poured lye into his baby sisters eye gone? Guess he wasn't so tough when locked up with real ones.
Its a film
@@noahark1038
No shite, Sherlock. Did you just figure that out?
@@Irish__Clan
No im captain obvious, i like ponting out the obvious. Also im jewish, insulting me is antisemetic
@@Irish__Clan
Im jewish
@@Irish__Clan
Shite
After seeing the he whole movie I really feel horrible for Eva. Not only did Kevin leave her to suffer to most, but she now is seen as a bad person and horrible mom. None of those people even had a fraction of the Patience she had, they all would have given up Long Ago. Seeing her embrace her son who is a murder and the fact she stays close by him and didn’t disown or flee from him says a lot about what a good person she is.
I mean
She was a horrible mom
She never wanted him
She thought there was something wrong with him from a young age and instead of taking him to a doctor to fix it she just saw it as him since he was really young knowingly wanting to make her suffer. All cuz of his blank stares, and different attitude around his father ya know the guy that didn't act like he was a monster. She threw him against a wall, broke his arm and on the drive gave an awkward apology where she talked about herself in the third person. None of this suprises me. She fucked up as a parent.
@@crazyshipper69
Why did you need to start your sentence with "I mean"? You didn't even say anything before that.
@@DrDolan Is that what you got from all that?
To answer your question, cuz it sounded good in my head, my grammar kinda sucks and i wanted to.
@@crazyshipper69 psychopath
He’s all she has left. And she knows she played a role in the person he’s become.
“I want you to tell me why?” He did it because he wanted to. A feeling that can’t be expressed in words.
Primal instincts
@@iamgar6age Yeah no. Primal instincts don't dictate you to commit mass murder. Those are psychotic urges
He might’ve convinced himself at one time that there was a reason. Now that he’s realizing there really wasn’t he’s lost.
Kevin let her live to suffer
Not sure. He was still a teenager. A child. Even psychopaths, no one is an accomplished adult at this age.
Or maybe he let her live because she’s the only one he ever saw as a real person.
@@JeantheSecondshe also is the only one who knew what a monster he was. Not his father. And maybe Kevin respected that.
@@thruthemotions yeah, this is how i've always interpreted it. in a weird way i think he respects her for seeing through his bullshit always. everyone wants to blame eva, but i think kevin would have turned out the same (or possibly even worse, somehow) with two parents like franklin, who are so obsessed with the image of the all-american family that they ignore who their children actually are. this is explored more in the book, but eva tries to voice her concerns about kevin multiple times and is ignored by everybody.
@@jessharkness5534 true. I did listen to the full audio version narrator of the novel on youtube and they did explore that more. I wondered why Kevin killed the dad who loved him more than Eva but then I realized it probably annoyed Kevin that his dad didn't truly see him. Though Eva couldn't stand him, she acknowledged Kevin and observed him and loved him enough to see what was wrong with him. Idk if Kevin liked that or if he didn't. Remember when he smirked after she accidentally broke his arm into he film? He lied and said he fell as leverage against her but i wonder if he respected her cause of that or saw that the mom can be just as violent as he is idk.
The movie would be enough to make one not want kids
Along with a trip to any mall ot supermarket
@@vladtheinhaler8476 in the summer
I'm sure child births dropped dramatically worldwide only due to people watching this.
Most people aren’t that weak.
Don’t drop the soap Kevin
Okay r kelly
@@theWoodsman25how are you making this comparison 💀
He better figure out how to make Laffy Taffy out of coffee creamer
*I always thought Ezra was just quirky but now I realize hes just genuinely unhinged and probably why he played this character so convincingly. Hope he gets put behind bars before he does something worse*
Do you understand this is a movie with actors? Lol are you retarded?
Tf
Weyyyyy
Sooo you want someone with actual mental issues to be locked up rather than helped?
@@williambelley5055 ?
This movie is the prove that American awards don’t understand a thing about quality or talent! Absolutely ridiculous none of them won and award in America
@@jon8004 maybe if they push the envelope most Americans will improve theirs ability these kind of movies more and less the pure commercial ones because lately those commercial cinema is getting the awards more and more
@@jon8004 i still believe in the duty of educate the viewers! As also much of the movies ( action/commercial ) are made to be some form of relief making people have the feeling of accomplishment while doing nothing! If we change that to make them think would be more interesting but obviously would be worst for politics and governments and that’s the only reason isn’t done
Concordo!
“you don’t look happy”
“have i ever?”
hits so harddd
WHY?
@@DrDolanWHY NOT?
Frrrr, I think about this line more than one time every day
What a little punk
His go-to power move was hurting his mom, because he easily could. He couldn’t get that source, if his enabling dad got full custody, so he lashed out in a violent, impulsive way.
In this scene, Kevin feels insecure, so he needs to protect his ego. He needs to feel powerful. That’s why he gave that answer. He knew it would hurt his mom, and he’d always have access to her from their traumatic bond.
i like this scene because it's the only one where he shows some kind of respect and possibly love for his mother. in every other moment he is unkind to her and you feel so bad for her.
He wanted to be like her. Staring at her poster of her book. Relishing in the attention on TV. The screams as he’s being arrested almost sound like applause.
Everything Kevin did was to belittle his Mother for the sake of trying to fit in her shoes because while she was actually famous, he wanted to be infamous.
Great observation
It truly is an underrated masterpiece that has only gained more attention now than ever due to the actors unfortunate demise and will continue to forever til the end of time, I'm sure.
What, which actors?
@@IMR95 Ezra Miller is the actor playing the role of Kevin. He turned out to be an actual freak. He's a groomer, he also assaulted many people, including burglary and all.
I'm sure this movie alone is responsible for a drop in child births worldwide.
A lot of people have commented something similar, but in no way shape or form is Kevin feeling remorseful for the things he did. Kevin has now realized that for the first time in his life, he is no longer the king shark, and he is now going to be released into a place that will show him the upmost brutality.
He is not sorrowful, he is completely and utterly petrified about the fact that once he goes to prison, he will be assaulted and beaten.
I think his mom knows this too, and her hug is more of a ‘this is probably the last time I see you, goodbye’, and less of an emotional hug.
This whole conversation is the two dancing around the mutually known probability that this conversation is likely to be their last, and that the shadow covering his face, is likely representing the fact that Kevin is going to be dead soon.
I don’t think so. The mom has never seen Kevin express any sort of vulnerability. All he’s ever shown towards her is contempt. This scene is the first time he looks to her for some kind of comfort, like a son does to a mother, and this is the first time she really gives it to him. Weirdly enough, this is the first scene in the film where they connect on some level like mother and son.
In the novel, it says that Kevin was showing some remorse.
Well, and the seen when he was sick as a kid, he was affectionate towards her.
I think he is going to like prison... the actor I mean.
Why
What happened to the tough guy who poured lye into his little sisters eye? Guess Kevvy wasnt so tough when dealing with other men and not little girls. Boo hoo. Poor Kevvy lol
He’s not real.
Exactly, cringy reply.
@@durfdurffigan8680 Every other comment refers to the characters as real people. It's silly to do otherwise. What's wrong with this one doing so?
@@michelleprieur1 its cringe
@@durfdurffigan8680 stfu, your cringe lmao🗿💀✨
If u wanna see a real life version of this movie follow the Aiden Fucci trial
They even shaved his head.
Nah, Paris Bennett is a lot closer to this. Killed and raped his sister to punish his mother.
Paris Bennett.
2 years ago? Wait, this isn't E. Miller portraying himself?
No
YES
We don't talk about Kevin-vin-vin-vin~
💀
Creepy af
Why
not creepy but uncomfortable
I just wish I could personally show him this when he went to court is all. So he can have an epiphany and realize the consequences of his actions.
He never had older males in his life to Right Size his Ego until he got to prison. Boys need Good Men to show them where they are on the food chain. They need to be taught that being a man means making your self strong to protect those who can't protect themselves. My martial arts instructors (safely) kicking my ass all those years was a major contribution
Plus a VERY strong mother. I yelled back at my mom when I was a boy and I thought I was safe cuz it's not Dad. Uhhh.....yea...she adjusted my attitude with her right hand in 10 seconds and I never fuckin did that again.
lol this is fiction. he didn't go to court lololol
@@alghanekar313
this is fiction lolol
@@DrDolan
No shite, genius.
@@DrDolan
You think??
What are the scars all over his scalp?
Presumably got into fights while in prison.
Before the farm and the fiasco with Tokata Iron Eyes, I used to want Ezra Miller to get help, as someone who enjoys seeing them in various projects, now I want them to get arrested ASAP. There’s absolutely no way in hell they can somehow have a Robert Downey Jr like comeback performance as they’ve eradicated their career and I’m surprised their agent hasn’t dropped their chaotic ass. Sad that this role and maybe Sinclair in Invincible showed off Ezra Miller’s true colors for being an evil, chaotic and unhinged person who is in dire need of some help.
Why do you keep saying "them" and "their"?
Tokata iron eyes said he didn't groom her. Learn your facts please.
@a.s.219 Because Miller said those are his pronouns apparently.
He not bed
you need to learn English
Damn! Such a great film by Austrian filmmaker Michael Haneke.
He didn’t have anything to do with this movie
@@gregbradshaw7220 He made Benny's Video! Isn't this Benny's Video?
@@limpicattono?
@@pee-bot Oops, my bad, this is Benny's Video FOR AMERICANS
@@limpicatto you waited 6 months to make that joke
In the Bible, God kills , kills, and kills. But...human being is more than that.
Kevin basically represents the edginess of teenagers out there unfortunately, lmao.
2:02- When Ezras asked in court why he did those terrible things.
He's a relatable character sometimes unfortunately, for all the wrong reasons that is unfortunately.
Lack of empathy is the true root of all evil, you could say, lmao.
he was blind in his right eye buhahahaga
This is no movie I will ever watch again. His sister and father deserved none of that and just had to be killed to just make us feel horrible and sad.
No this was based off a novel
😂😂😂😂lol
They're weren't killed just to be killed. This was what happened in the book as well
@@DrDolan What's funny about this?! Nothing. I don't care if it is based off a book, this is not a nice movie to watch every now and then. This movie is up there with Polytechnique as one of the most unrewatchable movies of all time.
@@captainhowlerwilson508 if you think this is one of the most unwatchable movies ever made you haven't seen shit, but also looks like you love MCU movies so yeah, you haven't seen shit
What did Kevin do to be in jail?
He committed a school massacre with his bow and arrows.
fap'd in front of his mom n smiled❤
Dolan pls
As if he would be happy in a prison. What a stupid thing to even say out loud.
As if he’d just randomly go on a killing spree. Oh wait, that’s exactly what happened. Clearly he isn’t normal so you shouldn’t make normal assumptions about him.
@@protalghulnist4126 do I need to report you to an FBI watch list???
@@yourinnerlawyer4035 oh no I'm so scared
@@yourinnerlawyer4035 wtf?
She’s asking that because he got what he wanted. He wanted a killing spree and he got it. So saying it is perfectly valid cuz was smiling as he got arrested
I thought she was gonna whisper..."Take care honey. I shoulda Swallowed"
makes no sense
@@DrDolan Really...? Ok
When Kevin's dad put his penis inside of Kevin's mom's vagina, she let him ejaculate inside of her. If
instead, she let him ejaculate into her mouth, also known as "swallowing" then she would not have gotten impregnated. Because the sperm would have gone into her stomach instead of fertilizing the egg, making kevin.
"I wish I had swallowed" is her way of saying "I regret you were born"
In turn, making fun of Kevin, the mass murdering maniac
I relate to him on a spiritual level tbh. Both inside and out.
Uhhh brother
have you killed anyone yet
Dude you’re so edgy and cool!!!
ew
« You don’t look happy. »
« Have I ever? »
Just chills
HAHE I EVER
he looked genuinely happy with his dad at times.
he looked happy when he fap'd n smiled while his mom watched❤