Superb discussion. Heather MacDonald is one of my heroes. And I enjoyed Dr. Satel's perspective from the field of mental health. As a clinical social worker myself, I have lost confidence in the unbiased legitimacy of my field. In fact, the DHP and licensing board in my state have undertaken an audit to investigate why so few "minority" licensing candidates are passing the LCSW exam. I suspect the answer will be fashioned with the optics of "equity," not merit.
With you there as a fellow social worker. They are going to get rid of the licensing exam entirely, both for LMSW and LCSW. Then, years down the line, when the pay invariably decrease (as it continues to lag far below nurses), racism will once again be called upon as the omnipresent scourge they view it as.
This is a very important message to get out. The steps that we take to address disparities should be judged by their effects, not their intentions. The people who claim to want to save the world owe it to that world to get their facts straight and understand concepts like tradeoffs and unintentional consequences.
@ 44:50 I believe she is referring to the Geneva Convention which requires military medical personnel to treat even injured enemy combatants the same as our own wounded soldiers when rendering medical treatment. Not to do so could probably be considered a war crime.
It unfortunately is international. It's especially bad in the US, but it's in a lot of other Western countries. I'm not sure what's causing the suicidal behavior of the West, but that's what we need to address.
@@meganwildhood3893 . . . Frankfurt School Senator Joe McCarthy tried to warn us. General George Patton. . . "we defeated the wrong enemy". Post Modernism Henry F0rd was right too Feminism
The rest of us have a hard time competing with black people in several domains. Tough bounce for us. If any group in the aggregate has a hard time competing, it does not mean that they are less valuable in their personhood. They just have to adjust. We must not organize our lives around the self-esteem of any particular group.
I find it ironic, not to mention disappointing, that the speakers decry the issue of Racial Essentialism at the beginning of the talk, only to continue to use Racialized language in a way that reinforces ideas of Racial Essentialism. In particular Satel's comments about "Cultural" differences between people Racialized as White and Black, that implies the cultural norms amongst people Racialized into those groups is somehow homogenous. When in reality these Racialized terms lump together various different cultural groups. Not to mention the Fallacy of Relative privations committed by saying that educating medical staff and researchers about Racism is not important or somehow takes away from their abilities to do their jobs. Both issues can be addressed without negatively effecting the persons ability to do their work, and ideally should improve their ability to aid in the medical care of others
🤣. I'm trying to watch the whole thing to give a fair (no pun intended) opinion, but I'm not used to hearing someone say "blacks", Heather is saying it so often....its so cringe to me...but I'm trying to push through it...only at 20:45 love your line " When in reality these Racialized terms lump together various different cultural groups."
@@sharonschieber she's not doing a good job of citing statistics since she doesn't give her sources for much of what she says. I don't know what "ideology" you're taking about, but educating medical staff about Racism is important when many people still believe in pseudoscientific ideas of Biological Racism that may impact the care of others if people are given roles of responsibility for the care of others while still believing such misinformation
@@machellovelivelife658 I had to take the video in bits too due to the cringe inducing comments from the people in the video. I had it about half way threw when they said those who use more gender neutral terms like "people with vulvas" or "people with wombs" are somehow ignoring biological sex 🤣. Let alone that comment about "inner city culture", which is a often used euphemism to refer to people Racialized as Black, that ignores how many people Racialized that way don't live in cities!
I believe there are more female sports offered than male sports. And if there are not enough girls playing sports and the funding therefore decreases then a male sport will need to be decreased even if you have men that want to play. Men have been emasculated by feminism and title 9. And title 9 has come full circle and is also destroying female sports with this transgender stuff. And the people behind this pushing all this never really cared about sports anyway.
Thank you very much for having the brilliant Mrs Mac Donald -- her clarity of vision and empirical backing are essential to this discussion
I think Thomas Sowell would be heartened to see your Conversation. Thank you.
Superb discussion. Heather MacDonald is one of my heroes. And I enjoyed Dr. Satel's perspective from the field of mental health. As a clinical social worker myself, I have lost confidence in the unbiased legitimacy of my field. In fact, the DHP and licensing board in my state have undertaken an audit to investigate why so few "minority" licensing candidates are passing the LCSW exam. I suspect the answer will be fashioned with the optics of "equity," not merit.
With you there as a fellow social worker. They are going to get rid of the licensing exam entirely, both for LMSW and LCSW. Then, years down the line, when the pay invariably decrease (as it continues to lag far below nurses), racism will once again be called upon as the omnipresent scourge they view it as.
This is a very important message to get out. The steps that we take to address disparities should be judged by their effects, not their intentions. The people who claim to want to save the world owe it to that world to get their facts straight and understand concepts like tradeoffs and unintentional consequences.
Yeah hjthat
Most people have had good lives for so long that they really don't understand that it could all fall apart.
Justice not social justice - please humanity. 1:01:18 Thank God for Heather.
thank you
@ 44:50 I believe she is referring to the Geneva Convention which requires military medical personnel to treat even injured enemy combatants the same as our own wounded soldiers when rendering medical treatment. Not to do so could probably be considered a war crime.
Students coming out as phlebotomists and LPNs out of high school is badass. Good call
Anyone else hear Glenn Loury’s voice when Ian Rowe read the question saying “intellectual lightweight” referring to Kendi and DiAngelo?
I'm gonna grab a beer. Kudos!
"Fair" means "I didn't get what I want". No one ever says "That's too fair!".
Skip the blather @ 5:30
34:09-35:42 😓
47:05 that is about as anti-psychotherapeutic as it gets. Wow!
What is happening in other countries? Are we alone in this crazy behavior, or is it international?
It unfortunately is international. It's especially bad in the US, but it's in a lot of other Western countries. I'm not sure what's causing the suicidal behavior of the West, but that's what we need to address.
@@meganwildhood3893 . . .
Frankfurt School
Senator Joe McCarthy tried to warn us.
General George Patton. . . "we defeated the wrong enemy".
Post Modernism
Henry F0rd was right too
Feminism
The rest of us have a hard time competing with black people in several domains. Tough bounce for us. If any group in the aggregate has a hard time competing, it does not mean that they are less valuable in their personhood. They just have to adjust. We must not organize our lives around the self-esteem of any particular group.
I find it ironic, not to mention disappointing, that the speakers decry the issue of Racial Essentialism at the beginning of the talk, only to continue to use Racialized language in a way that reinforces ideas of Racial Essentialism. In particular Satel's comments about "Cultural" differences between people Racialized as White and Black, that implies the cultural norms amongst people Racialized into those groups is somehow homogenous. When in reality these Racialized terms lump together various different cultural groups.
Not to mention the Fallacy of Relative privations committed by saying that educating medical staff and researchers about Racism is not important or somehow takes away from their abilities to do their jobs. Both issues can be addressed without negatively effecting the persons ability to do their work, and ideally should improve their ability to aid in the medical care of others
🤣. I'm trying to watch the whole thing to give a fair (no pun intended) opinion, but I'm not used to hearing someone say "blacks", Heather is saying it so often....its so cringe to me...but I'm trying to push through it...only at 20:45
love your line " When in reality these Racialized terms lump together various different cultural groups."
Integration has failed.
The different races are actually that. . . different. So different that they should not be living together in large groups.
^^^I was wondering if this kind of person was gonna show up
@@sharonschieber she's not doing a good job of citing statistics since she doesn't give her sources for much of what she says. I don't know what "ideology" you're taking about, but educating medical staff about Racism is important when many people still believe in pseudoscientific ideas of Biological Racism that may impact the care of others if people are given roles of responsibility for the care of others while still believing such misinformation
@@machellovelivelife658 I had to take the video in bits too due to the cringe inducing comments from the people in the video. I had it about half way threw when they said those who use more gender neutral terms like "people with vulvas" or "people with wombs" are somehow ignoring biological sex 🤣. Let alone that comment about "inner city culture", which is a often used euphemism to refer to people Racialized as Black, that ignores how many people Racialized that way don't live in cities!
What does mcdonald mean Title 9 destroyed male sports? Does anyone know?
I believe there are more female sports offered than male sports. And if there are not enough girls playing sports and the funding therefore decreases then a male sport will need to be decreased even if you have men that want to play. Men have been emasculated by feminism and title 9. And title 9 has come full circle and is also destroying female sports with this transgender stuff. And the people behind this pushing all this never really cared about sports anyway.
Wait, what?!? Tuskegee mischaracterized?! How so?