I've been waiting for someone like Corbyn to lead the LP for all of my adult life - I'm 62 this year. If we don't manage to get the LP elected under his leadership I am completely certain that I will be long dead before we have another chance - if ever - of improving social justice in our country.
I'm 62 and joined the Labour party just after he was elected. This is a once in a lifetime occurrence to kill neo liberalism. The media is working overtime, the right wing are just spouting lies, and even the right wing within the Labour party are seeking to undermine our only chance.
Dave Coyle I'll assume you haven't taken your meds today. You go off on your incoherent rant all you want. Come back when you actually address the points I made.
"Labour lords" sounds like it should be an oxymoron. Anyway, as Alun Parry's lyrics go: Some workers' leaders they are sent to royal garden parties Some workers' leaders are sent to the House of Lords Some workers' leaders they are sent to jail, they're sent to prison Which ones sold you down the river? Which ones fought your cause?
It's not about anti-Semitism, it's about protecting Israel. And I'm not one of those conspiracy theorist types but there's just to much evidence to ignore.
It's crazy how all these high ranking Tony Blair era labour members seem so much like Tories. They're almost indistinguishable from eachother in terms of policy and morality.
This is great reporting. I understand why establishment media doesn’t cover this properly (they are much more politically aligned with these lords than with Corbyn) but why don’t Corbyn and his allies point this stuff out when asked about these smears?
The major point here is that these politicians are using the genuine issue of antisematism for political motives, and that can only end up hurting the Jewish community in the long run.
Brilliant btw... More of these please... Apparently they love Jess... It's like some kind of constituency cabal... Birmingham is riddled with them... Another thing wrong with the original design of the Labour Party (or the way it has been interpreted) by the old guard... Novara should do some programmes from Brum... Really!!
'Blue Labourites' 'Blairites', 'Anti democratic Anti socialists' 'Red Tories'... But most of all gate keepers preventing substantive change to the Labour Party and in turn UK Politics so that it truly reflects the needs of the many... Watch to the end of the programme
You make some very good and valid points here regarding the cancer of the Blairites. However, you miss, arguably, one of the most important issues and that is how many of these peers and MPs such as Watson et al belong to Labour Friends of Israel. LFI is perhaps the most powerful and influential lobby group within Labour. The issue here is not precisely one of Antisemitism, it is an issue of LFI smearing, attacking and screaming anti-semite at anyone who dares to challenge the Zionist, apartheid policies of the Israeli state or stand up for the Palestinians. It is an attack of free speech, orchestrated by the Blairites and the LFI against Corbyn because he isn't a member of the neo-liberal Israeli club.
Regarding "conflicts of intererest", you look at the number of MPs (mostly Tories but to a lesser extent also in other parties) who are private landlords and they're getting to vote in parliament on housing issues. You look at people like Jacob Rees-Mogg with his vast personal wealth, and Brexit is certainly going to benefit him, but not the rest of us. Or you look at Boris Johnson or Priti Patel getting paid tens of thousands a year for doing not very much; what exactly is being paid for? When we see this kind of thing in other parts of the world we call it what it is: CORRUPTION.
People on the centre left need to stop with the "Labour does have an antisemitism problem but..." line of fig-leaf. England has a problem with antisemitism and it's effects are felt in all political parties. Labour is one of the better parties if you want anti-racism. Islamophobia in the Tory party is overwhelmingly obvious, but what about antisemtitism in the Tory party? There are bound to be loads of awful things said by members, organisers and peers. Very religious Christians often vote Conservative and is the traditional source of antisemitism.
Really good work Aaron. Where the hell is the rest of the press on this issue? The group think in the British press is so strong, Owen Jones and George Monbiot have both noted the group think in the Guardian offices. At this point in history, if you are having a hard time ‘picking sides’ or if you describe yourself as ‘politically homeless’ you need to grow a spine. Fascism is on the march and Britain has in front of it 2 distinct paths. Not making a decision is a decision. Being apolitical is political. You can’t stay neutral on a moving train.
It's good to see so many comments that welcome greater oversight and questions on the Jewish, Israel, Palastine situation. From where I stand I think that the British/UK media has the similar line. Aljeezra and others provide alternative points if view. But good too see viewers want a wider perspective on what's going on. New Labour was and is a sellout organisation.
The Guardian has major issues. I posted a mere comment on their site about Margaret Hodge not defending Ralph Milliband but noting that Corbyn did. Comment taken down 3 or 4 times. Margaret Hodge appears to be a contributor a lot right now. Great book Aaron by the way - really interesting stuff!
The problem in Labour is that there are key labour members who are really right wings and pro Israel, they were nestled in the party to be used when the times comes....
As a lifetime Labour voter, recent issues have convinced me that I cannot vote for the modern party led by Corbyn. Having watched this video and read the comments, I can only hope you will all enjoy the many more years of austerity and Tory misrule, you are likely to have endure.
Good video, but please don't call climate change a 'longer term issue'. It is a pressing immediate issue. I get that it's long term as well, but there needs to be consistent messaging the climate change is terrifying and destructive *right now*, and there is no time for dilly-dally in fighting it.
Your views will not be aired on MSM to radical for their liking. With the letter being placed in the possible worst neoliberal publication theirs a lot of "left leaning people" who will believe this nonsense and go against Corbyn. Anyway keep up the good work
60 lords x £300/day for attendance = £18,000. If they were willing to forfeit their pay and just go to HoL for the food and piss ups, they could put an advert out every day of the week.
Keep it up. The very last thing we want to do is have Labour become serious about power again. It will delay the long overdue implosion of both the big parties.
I'm not a socialist, left wing or a Labour voter but it's good to see some people on the left are able to discuss issues with out attack people and getting emotional. One major problem the left has is even people on the left don't know what is in the manifesto or what the parties policies are.
A very well presented argument, covering a range of issues. One can see that the speaker believes that the country would benefit from a Corbyn-led government. The question to consider is: how likely is this to happen? The first obstacle is the print media in Britain, which is hugely biased against Labour in general and Corbyn in particular. The second problem is that, like the Conservatives, Labour is itself divided on the key issue facing Britain; Brexit. My own view, for what it's worth, is that Jeremy Corbyn is a first-rate political campaigner, but not someone who is good at performing the role that Clement Attlee performed so well in the 1945 Labour Government, that of chairman of the board. Were he a good arse kicker, many of the problems that the Party still faces would have already been addressed.
I don't know if you are correct - your reasoning seems sound. I do notice that the Guardian 'The left-wing bastion' currently has 3 related articles on it's main header page as of 21st with no comments allowed. Are they all in Blair's money pocket?
I agree with most of this, if not all, except the accusation that Baroness Hayter's comments were racist, (not that I agree with what she said), but the Hitler bunker analogy, as extreme as it was, was effectively saying that Corbyn's inner circle were insulating him from the truth, polls etc, much as in the last days of Hitler, where his generals chose not to share negative news with him - full quote: "Those of you who haven’t [read the book] will have seen the film ‘Bunker’, about the last days of Hitler, where you stop receiving any information into the inner group which suggests that things are not going the way you want." And she added: "That seems to be where we are at the moment: having the leadership in a bunker so they are not hearing in those views, that evidence, that is in conflict with what they are trying to do, to the extent that even undermines what they are trying to do. "Because if you are trying to win an election and you don’t honestly look at the polls, then you are not going to be in a position to take the action to win."
you'd need to define "irrefutable evidence" probably legally as otherwise you'd be open to legal cases against you. I mean we should have zero tolerance for bigotry but requiring "irrefutable evidence" without defining what that is seems questionable at best imo
"Labour Lords": is that in itself not an absurd contradiction? How can a "Lord" represent the interests of labour, of the working class? The whole political system in Britain needs major reform, including abolition of the House of Lords and its replacement with something more democratic.
i think that pretending that you don't have a position on mps who don't represent you is unnecessary. you can support the autonomy of the membership in the constituency (through mandatory reselection) and still think that the mp should go.
Excellent analysis Aaron. But I think Downfall is a much better film than Bunker but that is by the way. Hayter said, and I quote "Addressing the meeting, she said: “Those of you who haven’t [read the book] will have watched the film Bunker, about the last days of Hitler, of how you stop receiving into the inner group any information which suggests that things are not going the way you want.” Things clearly aren't going the way that Hayter wants...she should look into the mirror she and her allies have in their bunker and the bunker is huge by all accounts!
Worst I saw was Joan Bakewell. "Well I was talking to some friendzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" Thinking man's-- I won't use the word that was current years ago.. God life must be insufferable in Primrose Hill these days.
Jeremy Corbyn should be totally open to criticism and "attack". Just as people attack Boris Johnson all the time. To compare this criticism to taking out an advert in a newspaper criticising their editor as shit is delusional. To avoid addressing the underlying issue of anti-semitism but to engage in personal attacks on the Lords. It's also supremely ironic to criticise these people for the company they keep, when that's the whole problem with Corbyn!
Hayter should have been brought in to the leaders office , if she came out saying what she said on the world at 1 yesterday basically she supports Corbyn 'he can still do what we want to happen' 'I have supported Jeremy Corbyn since he was elected' and was worried about her perception of a bunker mentality but admitted it was 'a silly example to give' we need to be a bit better at politics if we want to win power
Hopefully John Reid will turn his attention to the football club he was heavily involved with. I hope he exposes how much sex abuse actually went on and was covered up.
I don't understand. If you have an evident problem with antisemitism you sort it out, you don't fanny about. Otherwise people like me will reconsider voting for the party. And the real opposition will make hay with it - I notice May has started a commission on antisemitism, which is nakedly political, but sadly I could see that coming a mile off. Pointing the finger at other people who call you out is not an appropriate response. Neither is trying to deselect critics. It's just stupid. This is not a Monty Python film, it's real life, and it's important.
I think when it comes to immigration policies, governments should take a harder more discriminatory stance. We dont owe anyone a damn thing, so the creed of coming here (same if we go abroad) is you're here to work and pay into the system (majority do). There should be ZERO fraud allowed from immigrants but when you label harsh policies as racist, immigration becomes a poison chalice that nobody wants to touch and you end with a bunch of deadwood like we have. Pissing in the wind about teaching kids about LGBT, or claiming benefits whilst they bowl up in school in brand new range rovers cos their husbands are working or own a business but you claim to be separated (Looking at you Turks). I believe in calling it how it is. There are many that come here and are an absolute necessity to the economy and infrastructure but there's a lot of deadwood that neeeds sorting out, without people waving the race card around FFS Just to add, I don't begrudge families with disabled kids that come over here because we have a better system than they would. In that instance, we shouldn't adding more hardship to their life.
2 mins in and you've lost me. Have a go at the 64 Lords, sure, but The Guardian for publishing it? Is the Guardian not allowed to host paid for adverts that criticise any elected leader of the Labour party? This loyalty argument asks that we don't call out perceived faults on our own side, because we're on the same side... well, I think that's seriously wrong.
The Guardian has a bit of a history with inaccurate reporting around Corbyn and anti-Semitism... in fact, strike that - they're *obsessed*! Something I think that's been covered here before?
@@NPC-st7zv I've never been to 4chan. Stop simplistically associating my fact-based comment with an ideological group you are opposed to, just because you dislike/disagree with what I have typed. It is an immature and intellectually weak approach to rational debate and discussion.
You remind me of the guy who says everyone else is wrong and I am right - relying on things from 20 years ago does not help your argument - I don't dispute your facts but it would have been much better to use things from the present rather than history
I've been waiting for someone like Corbyn to lead the LP for all of my adult life - I'm 62 this year. If we don't manage to get the LP elected under his leadership I am completely certain that I will be long dead before we have another chance - if ever - of improving social justice in our country.
philip gage I’m 70 mate -- and you’re spot on -- nice one .
I'm 62 and joined the Labour party just after he was elected. This is a once in a lifetime occurrence to kill neo liberalism. The media is working overtime, the right wing are just spouting lies, and even the right wing within the Labour party are seeking to undermine our only chance.
Dave Coyle I'll assume you haven't taken your meds today. You go off on your incoherent rant all you want. Come back when you actually address the points I made.
A rare thing in this day and age - journalism with integrity and heart. Well said Aaron.
"Labour lords" sounds like it should be an oxymoron. Anyway, as Alun Parry's lyrics go:
Some workers' leaders they are sent to royal garden parties
Some workers' leaders
are sent to the House of Lords
Some workers' leaders they are sent to jail, they're sent to prison
Which ones sold you down the river?
Which ones fought your cause?
It's not about anti-Semitism, it's about protecting Israel. And I'm not one of those conspiracy theorist types but there's just to much evidence to ignore.
It's not really a conspiracy to suggest Israel has massively influential lobby groups in many western countries
@@angloirishcad Why is that?
"They are not worthy of licking Jermy Corbyns boots" Araon Bastani. Sums it up really
It's crazy how all these high ranking Tony Blair era labour members seem so much like Tories. They're almost indistinguishable from eachother in terms of policy and morality.
This is great reporting. I understand why establishment media doesn’t cover this properly (they are much more politically aligned with these lords than with Corbyn) but why don’t Corbyn and his allies point this stuff out when asked about these smears?
We must be free to discuss Zionist control/ownership of the mainstream media. Very clearly, discussion of this verifiable 'fact' is not racism!
The major point here is that these politicians are using the genuine issue of antisematism for political motives, and that can only end up hurting the Jewish community in the long run.
free thought Sorry but Zionist controlled media? Jews or Israel do not control the Media. The rich and powerful do.
Tomás Roma absolutely right
Loving your work on this Aaron. Keep it up mate.
Fantastic analysis from Aaron Bastani on Watson, the Labour lords, Jess Phillips etc.
You’re the only member of Novara to stand up for Corbyn and the left. The rest have put their head in the sand.
Massive props to you, Aaron!
Bravo, bloody brilliant take on what's happening
Good work on this Aaron. The hypocrisy on display is pretty sickening
Who's paying for it? let's just put it this way, a peer gets £300 a day expenses for turning up at the House Of Lords, and 60x£300 is £18,000...
Because they are really tory at heart
We never had this trouble with Tony Blair, that is for sure.
@@heycidskyja4668 what trouble if Tony was considered as a threat to the 1% he would of had this same manufactured problem and so would Theresa may
@@mickelsmickle8668 Exactly. And that's why TB was such a good PM.
@@heycidskyja4668 In what way? He is a nasty shit who lied and covered up about Iraq
@@2005peasah real talk
They are so scared of Corbyn,it's actually hilarious
As a regular reader of the Guardian, it is not a good newspaper... except by comparison to most of the other British press which is even worse.
We need to get rid of the these right wing Labour MP's Asap.
I actually do think that Freedland is an appalling journalist. I don't even consider him to be a journalist.
He's an asshole who's so bias against JC along with Polly Tonybee and Zoe Williams criticizing JC.
Brilliant btw... More of these please... Apparently they love Jess... It's like some kind of constituency cabal... Birmingham is riddled with them... Another thing wrong with the original design of the Labour Party (or the way it has been interpreted) by the old guard... Novara should do some programmes from Brum... Really!!
'Blue Labourites' 'Blairites', 'Anti democratic Anti socialists' 'Red Tories'... But most of all gate keepers preventing substantive change to the Labour Party and in turn UK Politics so that it truly reflects the needs of the many... Watch to the end of the programme
jess phillips once said she would stab corbyn in the front not the back, yet she still references jo cox.
Clearly Corbyn isn't doing enough to tackle racism in the party. John Reid is still there.
Nah, John Reid's a good egg. He was offered a cabinet position by Gordon Brown but, sadly, turned it down.
In my opinion he has done more than enough.
You make some very good and valid points here regarding the cancer of the Blairites. However, you miss, arguably, one of the most important issues and that is how many of these peers and MPs such as Watson et al belong to Labour Friends of Israel. LFI is perhaps the most powerful and influential lobby group within Labour. The issue here is not precisely one of Antisemitism, it is an issue of LFI smearing, attacking and screaming anti-semite at anyone who dares to challenge the Zionist, apartheid policies of the Israeli state or stand up for the Palestinians. It is an attack of free speech, orchestrated by the Blairites and the LFI against Corbyn because he isn't a member of the neo-liberal Israeli club.
Well said! Btw, the anti-Semitism allegations would be more believable if any substantive evidence was ever produced
Regarding "conflicts of intererest", you look at the number of MPs (mostly Tories but to a lesser extent also in other parties) who are private landlords and they're getting to vote in parliament on housing issues. You look at people like Jacob Rees-Mogg with his vast personal wealth, and Brexit is certainly going to benefit him, but not the rest of us. Or you look at Boris Johnson or Priti Patel getting paid tens of thousands a year for doing not very much; what exactly is being paid for? When we see this kind of thing in other parts of the world we call it what it is: CORRUPTION.
Jeremy & Bernie for Peace, the Planet & Prosperity !!!
People on the centre left need to stop with the "Labour does have an antisemitism problem but..." line of fig-leaf. England has a problem with antisemitism and it's effects are felt in all political parties. Labour is one of the better parties if you want anti-racism. Islamophobia in the Tory party is overwhelmingly obvious, but what about antisemtitism in the Tory party? There are bound to be loads of awful things said by members, organisers and peers. Very religious Christians often vote Conservative and is the traditional source of antisemitism.
the PLP have had their say...the Labour peers have had their say...nobody every asks the ordinary Labour party members...I wonder why?
Really good work Aaron. Where the hell is the rest of the press on this issue? The group think in the British press is so strong, Owen Jones and George Monbiot have both noted the group think in the Guardian offices.
At this point in history, if you are having a hard time ‘picking sides’ or if you describe yourself as ‘politically homeless’ you need to grow a spine.
Fascism is on the march and Britain has in front of it 2 distinct paths.
Not making a decision is a decision. Being apolitical is political. You can’t stay neutral on a moving train.
It's good to see so many comments that welcome greater oversight and questions on the Jewish, Israel, Palastine situation. From where I stand I think that the British/UK media has the similar line. Aljeezra and others provide alternative points if view. But good too see viewers want a wider perspective on what's going on. New Labour was and is a sellout organisation.
The Guardian has major issues. I posted a mere comment on their site about Margaret Hodge not defending Ralph Milliband but noting that Corbyn did. Comment taken down 3 or 4 times. Margaret Hodge appears to be a contributor a lot right now. Great book Aaron by the way - really interesting stuff!
Well said.
Abolish the house of lords
Fantastic video, thanks for all your hard work!
The problem in Labour is that there are key labour members who are really right wings and pro Israel, they were nestled in the party to be used when the times comes....
Personally I find the words ' Labour Peers' as offensive as 'Compassionate Conservatives'!
#GTTO
As a lifetime Labour voter, recent issues have convinced me that I cannot vote for the modern party led by Corbyn. Having watched this video and read the comments, I can only hope you will all enjoy the many more years of austerity and Tory misrule, you are likely to have endure.
Good video, but please don't call climate change a 'longer term issue'. It is a pressing immediate issue. I get that it's long term as well, but there needs to be consistent messaging the climate change is terrifying and destructive *right now*, and there is no time for dilly-dally in fighting it.
I'd say climate change requires short, medium and long-term strategy.
Your views will not be aired on MSM to radical for their liking. With the letter being placed in the possible worst neoliberal publication theirs a lot of "left leaning people" who will believe this nonsense and go against Corbyn. Anyway keep up the good work
Absolutely great analysis.. a huge respect to Mr. ARON 👍❤
60 lords x £300/day for attendance = £18,000.
If they were willing to forfeit their pay and just go to HoL for the food and piss ups, they could put an advert out every day of the week.
Keep it up. The very last thing we want to do is have Labour become serious about power again. It will delay the long overdue implosion of both the big parties.
Brilliant again telling it how it is. JC4PM sooner the better
A lot of ground covered in this - clearly well researched.
Right on to my man Aaron Bastani.
When it's criticising this leader it's called attacking, when it's criticising the last three leaders, it's principled protest?
Give them an argument they collapse so easy this is gold!good form
I'm not a socialist, left wing or a Labour voter but it's good to see some people on the left are able to discuss issues with out attack people and getting emotional. One major problem the left has is even people on the left don't know what is in the manifesto or what the parties policies are.
A very well presented argument, covering a range of issues. One can see that the speaker believes that the country would benefit from a Corbyn-led government. The question to consider is: how likely is this to happen? The first obstacle is the print media in Britain, which is hugely biased against Labour in general and Corbyn in particular. The second problem is that, like the Conservatives, Labour is itself divided on the key issue facing Britain; Brexit. My own view, for what it's worth, is that Jeremy Corbyn is a first-rate political campaigner, but not someone who is good at performing the role that Clement Attlee performed so well in the 1945 Labour Government, that of chairman of the board. Were he a good arse kicker, many of the problems that the Party still faces would have already been addressed.
Once again Aaron lifting the veil on the double standards of some
I don't know if you are correct - your reasoning seems sound. I do notice that the Guardian 'The left-wing bastion' currently has 3 related articles on it's main header page as of 21st with no comments allowed. Are they all in Blair's money pocket?
I agree with most of this, if not all, except the accusation that Baroness Hayter's comments were racist, (not that I agree with what she said), but the Hitler bunker analogy, as extreme as it was, was effectively saying that Corbyn's inner circle were insulating him from the truth, polls etc, much as in the last days of Hitler, where his generals chose not to share negative news with him - full quote: "Those of you who haven’t [read the book] will have seen the film ‘Bunker’, about the last days of Hitler, where you stop receiving any information into the inner group which suggests that things are not going the way you want."
And she added: "That seems to be where we are at the moment: having the leadership in a bunker so they are not hearing in those views, that evidence, that is in conflict with what they are trying to do, to the extent that even undermines what they are trying to do.
"Because if you are trying to win an election and you don’t honestly look at the polls, then you are not going to be in a position to take the action to win."
Being "Labour " while sitting in the Lords says it all.
Good analysis.......
Isn't it?!
60 peers? That’s about £300 each. A couple of days “expenses”?
Well done Aaron. Fantastic.
you'd need to define "irrefutable evidence" probably legally as otherwise you'd be open to legal cases against you.
I mean we should have zero tolerance for bigotry but requiring "irrefutable evidence" without defining what that is seems questionable at best imo
respect to the new mainstream media. this is what journalism looks like.
"Labour Lords": is that in itself not an absurd contradiction? How can a "Lord" represent the interests of labour, of the working class? The whole political system in Britain needs major reform, including abolition of the House of Lords and its replacement with something more democratic.
i think that pretending that you don't have a position on mps who don't represent you is unnecessary. you can support the autonomy of the membership in the constituency (through mandatory reselection) and still think that the mp should go.
Scrap the Lord's. Stick that pledge in the manifesto. No one has ever been voted in to there. Disgraceful.
You say £18k is a lot of money. It is to me. It's my entire salary in a year. But it's peanuts to a lot of those peers
Jonathan Freedland is not just a bad journalist, but incredibly boring too. I don't think I ever finished reading one of his articles.
like you really need to answer why a bunch of people who call themselves "lords" are against Corbyn
Excellent analysis Aaron.
But I think Downfall is a much better film than Bunker but that is by the way.
Hayter said, and I quote "Addressing the meeting, she said: “Those of you who haven’t [read the book] will have watched the film Bunker, about the last days of Hitler, of how you stop receiving into the inner group any information which suggests that things are not going the way you want.”
Things clearly aren't going the way that Hayter wants...she should look into the mirror she and her allies have in their bunker and the bunker is huge by all accounts!
Corbyn should sue.
Worst I saw was Joan Bakewell. "Well I was talking to some friendzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" Thinking man's-- I won't use the word that was current years ago.. God life must be insufferable in Primrose Hill these days.
Jeremy Corbyn should be totally open to criticism and "attack". Just as people attack Boris Johnson all the time. To compare this criticism to taking out an advert in a newspaper criticising their editor as shit is delusional. To avoid addressing the underlying issue of anti-semitism but to engage in personal attacks on the Lords. It's also supremely ironic to criticise these people for the company they keep, when that's the whole problem with Corbyn!
Well said
Not remotely surprised
If everyone that voted for Jeremy Corbyn in both election put 10£ into a kitty, then we can put a weekly ad in a lot of places for a very long time.
what use have we in labour for lords to begin with?
Politics and Corruption. Death and Taxes . Keep up the Good Work !
hi, did you change "quite right-wing" to "pretty right-wing" , because brits and north americans understand the word differently? just curious
Thank you for this
Hayter should have been brought in to the leaders office , if she came out saying what she said on the world at 1 yesterday basically she supports Corbyn 'he can still do what we want to happen' 'I have supported Jeremy Corbyn since he was elected' and was worried about her perception of a bunker mentality but admitted it was 'a silly example to give' we need to be a bit better at politics if we want to win power
Hopefully John Reid will turn his attention to the football club he was heavily involved with. I hope he exposes how much sex abuse actually went on and was covered up.
Abolish the House of Lords
It would be interesting to know how many of the 20 are in Labour Friends of Israel......
Because they're lords
Thumbs up, if only for the hot host.
Tears for Peers
It's amazing that the Guardian asks for donations as if it is not an establishment rag.
GCHQ should give them a kickback
JC is the man and I back him all the way
good stuff, they're all amazingly shameless
He’s a complete liability. No one seriously thinks he should be prime minister.
We the people probably paid for it.
We have to stand together, we are closer than ever. That's why the media has stepped up its game again. We can have a socialist Labour government. ✊
I don't understand. If you have an evident problem with antisemitism you sort it out, you don't fanny about. Otherwise people like me will reconsider voting for the party. And the real opposition will make hay with it - I notice May has started a commission on antisemitism, which is nakedly political, but sadly I could see that coming a mile off.
Pointing the finger at other people who call you out is not an appropriate response. Neither is trying to deselect critics. It's just stupid. This is not a Monty Python film, it's real life, and it's important.
it was created by Labour to take care of them ... FFS !!! .. the Lords need to be democratized ...
I think this is all just a cover for the real discrimination against the Beaker People of the Bronze Age.
this whole scenario stems from the Gaitskellites and Bevanites
I think when it comes to immigration policies, governments should take a harder more discriminatory stance. We dont owe anyone a damn thing, so the creed of coming here (same if we go abroad) is you're here to work and pay into the system (majority do). There should be ZERO fraud allowed from immigrants but when you label harsh policies as racist, immigration becomes a poison chalice that nobody wants to touch and you end with a bunch of deadwood like we have. Pissing in the wind about teaching kids about LGBT, or claiming benefits whilst they bowl up in school in brand new range rovers cos their husbands are working or own a business but you claim to be separated (Looking at you Turks). I believe in calling it how it is. There are many that come here and are an absolute necessity to the economy and infrastructure but there's a lot of deadwood that neeeds sorting out, without people waving the race card around FFS
Just to add, I don't begrudge families with disabled kids that come over here because we have a better system than they would. In that instance, we shouldn't adding more hardship to their life.
2 mins in and you've lost me. Have a go at the 64 Lords, sure, but The Guardian for publishing it? Is the Guardian not allowed to host paid for adverts that criticise any elected leader of the Labour party? This loyalty argument asks that we don't call out perceived faults on our own side, because we're on the same side... well, I think that's seriously wrong.
The Guardian has a bit of a history with inaccurate reporting around Corbyn and anti-Semitism... in fact, strike that - they're *obsessed*! Something I think that's been covered here before?
We must be free to discuss Zionist control/ownership of the mainstream media. Very clearly, discussion of this verifiable fact is not racism!
@@freethought498 said just like the 4chan memes
The CNN one is very funny
@@NPC-st7zv I've never been to 4chan. Stop simplistically associating my fact-based comment with an ideological group you are opposed to, just because you dislike/disagree with what I have typed. It is an immature and intellectually weak approach to rational debate and discussion.
@@freethought498 don't bother with 4chan, I think the 8chan pol is funnier.
You would probably prefer leftypol, that is quite funny too.
Blairites attempting a power grab again? Surprise surprise.
I bet the £18K came from the Israel embassy...........
The people opposing Corbyn can be scummy and right about Corbyn's leadership and the state of the party at the same time.
@@herbert9241 Might be pushing it a bit too far but got a laugh out of me in any case.
So your argument is blame the victims of what they say is antisemitism?? That doesn't seem very left, or maybe it's just too far left for my politics.
Dans intelligence makes him so frigging hot lol
THESE VIDEOS ARE WAY TOO QUIET
You remind me of the guy who says everyone else is wrong and I am right - relying on things from 20 years ago does not help your argument - I don't dispute your facts but it would have been much better to use things from the present rather than history
Friends of Israel money I guess