Mallory’s body was found about 24 years ago. Its true there‘s no proof that he reached the top of Everest….but…the climbers who found him…thought his position was consistent with Mallory’s decent from the peak…when he fell. The position of his body was a known decent route and the torn rope led up the slope in the right direction. Irving‘s body was reported by a Chinese climber in 1960s but the location was not clear and his body was never found again.
I mean he was found DEscending but how on earth would a descent from the peak be different to a descent from a slightly lower point? How would you tell where the descent started?
They assumed, he must have reached the peak, as according to the ppl, who found him, the only route to get from, where he was last seen, to where he was found, wouldve been via the peak. As circumstantial evidence, he was known to be carrying a photo of his wife in his wallet, which he had promised to leave on the peak, and when he was found, his wallet was in his pocket, including an unpaid bill for his gloves, but his wifes photo was not there. Unfortunately his altimeter had been broken in his fall, and Irvine was carrying the camera.
He also didn’t have the photo of his wife which he was supposed to leave on the peak. Unfortunately they think that a Chinese expedition found Irvine, took his camera film and destroyed it while trying to process it. At least one of the climbers met with a British diplomat and reiterated this story. “Pan Dou and Fuzhou said that on the 1975 Chinese expedition to the North Face of Everest, the team had found the body of Sandy Irvine and the Kodak VPK, which they brought home. Later, Chinese technicians attempted to develop the film but were unable to recover any images. As all members of the British Foreign Service are trained to do, the diplomat took thorough notes at the meeting. He later wrote a memo, which he sent to Sir George Bishop and possibly the Foreign Office, but the document has disappeared. I searched the RGS; the diplomat pored over the UK National Archives for days; I was even in touch with Sir George Bishop's relatives, who told me that Bishop's widow burned all of his papers upon his death.” That film likely would have answered the mystery- if Mallory and Irvine reached the summit before they died.
The summit that was once considered the crowning achievement in mountaineering is now visited by more than 600 people per year. In 2019, the Nepali government removed 10,000 kilograms of trash from the mountain. There are even helicopter rides available up to a point to save the tourists some walking. Is it just me or does anyone else feel that not every spot on the planet should be turned into a July 4th BBQ in a park?
It's the Walt Disney Park mentality of people with money. And as for "July 4th BBQ," don't be such a xenophobe, I know Mt Everest is very much visited by the Japanese and Europeans.
Sir Edmund Hillary is a national hero here in NZ. He spent most of his life fighting for the rights of Sherpa, and for the preservation of the mountain, and he never cared about credit.
Honestly everytime I hear his name it makes me so proud to be. New Zealander. Just like when sir Peter Blake is mentioned, my heart though heavy is proud to say he is New Zealander. And as for the sherpas he really did fight for so long for the rights. Opened that weird airport and never cared about the press. Man national pride feels good
I once saw a short clip, after Mallorys body had been found, where Sir Edmund was asked, if he thought, Mallory had been the first to reach the peak, as circumstantial evidence hinted at. His answer was, that in his opinion a successful ascend included making it down alive. A very graceful statement and a good point. I know, there are staunch Mallory camps and staunch Hillary camps, each vociferously claiming, their guy was first. Honestly, I dont think, it matters. It doesnt have to be either 1 or the other. Mallory might have been first, at this point its unlikely, we will ever know for certain, but Sir Edmund and Tenzing were the first to reach the peak and live to tell about it. Both were accomplished climbers, and even if Mallory reached the peak in 1924, it takes nothing from Sir Edmund and Tenzing. Sir Edmund was a great climber and a great man. The Mallory question certainly imo casts no aspersions on his great achievements in both climbing and subsequent good work.
Thank you. The arrogance of those who "discovered" a mountain that's been there for millions of years and well known to indigenous populations is astounding. Like Columbus "discovering" America, which had already been visited by the French, the Chinese, and many more. The arrogance of colonizers...incredible.
Dude... Did you say there was nothing particularly special about George Everest??! That is a wildly foolish thing to say. He accurately mapped the entire mountain range in the area, and massive parts of India that had previously been inaccurately mapped with no elevation mapping done. That's such a dumb thing to say in a video about mountaineering 😆
There’s a relatively small RUclips channel called Michael Tracy who makes a very compelling argument for Mallory and Irving summiting. I tend to believe they did
Even if there were only 6 on the expedition I find it hard to believe there was zero evidence on the mountain and no bodies found. No chance there were 160 on the expedition.
Well most of the 160 wouldn't have been on the mountain. It's vaguely feasible an avalanche swept the camp and climbers off the side of the mountain and the glacier swallowed them. And just because no evidence was found doesn't mean there isn't any. But you're not wrong it us equally possible it was just a hoax. I certainly don't have the answer😂
@@annnee6818 It's very unlikely, there's people who document every piece of equipment and all of the bodies around Everest. Most things are preserved, sometimes buried and later revealed after a storm or avalanche. It's very unlikely there wouldn't be a single shred of evidence, but maybe we'll find some evidence someday.
Where were they dropped? Has anyone seen the planes? I'm sure the local villagers would have remembered something of this magnitude. Scientists going beyond 8,000 m without proper training and gear? Were they forced into it, or they volunteered? Why no reliable sources were provided by those who talked about it? Stalin's record being what it is, I think many legends about the Soviets were created by western propaganda. Not a shred of evidence in this story; only hearsay.
Sweetie. We humans regularly lose our keys in our own houses. Believe it. Nature is far more vast then you and I can imagine. Next time you're camping in the woods do a few tests with friends: see how far sound carries at 100ft, 200ft, 300ft. You'll be stunned to find out how quickly voices fade unless they're bouncing on rock.
05:50 "Then Moscow started to worry and sent planes to Nepal" It was probably more like: "With radio silence and the possibility of sabotage or treason being instigated by the mountaineers, the NKVD was immediately sent out to Mt. Everest to investigate any potential crimes or capitalist subversion."
People trying to decide if they believe in this expedition based on whether it would be "logical" for USSR to send amateurs instead of professionals are ignoring russia's documented pattern of prioritizing propaganda over results. Propaganda oriented logic doesn't ask what will work, only what will look the best. If they sent professional climbers - people whose names were known - it would have created an "event", people would have expectations that could be dashed if they failed, and then the world could say, "Look, even their best wasn't good enough". But if amateurs succeeded then USSR could say that communism empowered even average people to be capable of greatness. And if it failed it could be swept under the rug in a way professional, known climbers couldn't. It is fruitless to try to decide what is real based off of what "feels" logical. Logic would dictate that a modern army educated in radiation wouldn't deliberately encamp troops at the site of a radioactive disaster and allow them to dig trenches in the irradiated soil, buuuut......that is exactly what the russian army did last year in Ukraine. Once you scratch the surface, examples abound. Poorly prepared propaganda oriented actions that are then swept under the rug by officials looking to cover their butts is russia's M.O.
"We need 10,000 widgets in 5 minutes... and make sure to take down the names of those involved. Is the party leader in agreement? Yes? Good. I'll see you in 5 minutes."
It's funny that for someone who yaps a lot about propaganda you end your blabbering with... propaganda. Care to remind us how is that war going? Oh no, I bet you moved on to the next "news" cycle.
What is a high mountain canard? 8:52. "They tried to strangle this canard" Imagining Russians strangling a duck. Ah, ok, i just Googled it and it means an unfounded story.
Not only do very few know about Everest’s namesake George Everest, but everyone pronounces the peak’s name (ever-est), when the man’s name is actually pronounced (eeve-rest).
Very true, I did not know about the pronunciation of Everest's name. I suspect most people think of it as ever-rest due to the large number of deaths there, with the souls "ever" resting on the mountain.
Do you know why no one pronounces his name that way? Because that’s not how it’s spelled. And if he wants his name pronounced that way, he should spell it that way.
@@prowlprime I agree with that. I *loathe* when parents decide to give a unique spelling of a name to their child. If you want to name your kid "Jason" or "Isabella" then just do it, don't name then "jayceson" or "Isybella" then get all pissy when nobody says their name correctly.
What materials are you talking about at15:11? Where did you even hear about this? If it's top secret where did you get the info at9:21, including Dr Pavel Dachnolyan's name?
Very interesting, I had never heard of this before! Given how the Soviets were trying to do everything before the US, it would be more unbelievable if they hadn't sent a team to Mount Everest.
It's impossible to know if its true or not but this is the type of thing the Soviets would have done. If they had succeeded they would have been heroes, if they failed they simply deny that it ever happened. Just like the dead soviet cosmonauts that "never existed" even though we have audio of them burning up during reentry.
Where can I listen to this audio? I have long read about these cosmonauts but was not aware audio exists. I haven't read about this story in decades. lol
It was proven to be fake. It was 2 Italian brothers who were radio enthusiasts. Yes you can hear Russian language in the audio BUT the woman was talking in a distinct Italian accent in the audio.
Yeah, those audio recordings are well known fakes. If all else, the fact that radio transmission is impossible during reentry should disqualify their credibility.
A little correction it was called Everest due to the fact the topographical team were unable to find an agreed upon name from the local communities as they all had different names for it & none of them were prepared to accept some orher communities name over there's there's.
Data and information without blaming "Colonizers"? It CAN'T be true! All native communities are, by default, angelical and you'll never find any of those supermen and superwoman having an argument ever. For sure Everest killed all of them and played football with their heads, because he was white and always wanted a Nepalese mountain called after him. That's MY history and you can't deny it.
@@estrafalario5612Just like chill dude. I don’t think it’s super unreasonable that people who had been in the region for thousands of years and had their own names for their own lands geography, might get slightly annoyed that one British dude measures it and all of a sudden THATS the name everyone across the globe everyone remembers. Besides even if there was any disagreement amongst the inhabitants of the region on what it was called, it’s not like it would have been hard at all to find a Nepalese word for it. You don’t need to lose your mind over this
There is also an option that the group was able to somehow run away and start new lives in local countries. They would probably stay quiet, as USSR had some influence over the region.
If they were all inexperienced climbers like the video says I can believe that. Perhaps they couldn't make any progress climbing so they falsified their reports then fled. It could explain no evidence being found in their reported locations
I would understand if they were running away to the West, but to Nepal and China???? That time these countries could offer poorer life standard than the USSR itself.
Hi, a snip from Dyatlov Pass keeps its secrets. A certain person going under the name of Andrei Deev also known as Doctor a Geologist was on Mt Kholat Syhl or Dead Mountain, on the 4th and 5th February 1959, close to where nine Politech students died, is it possible Pavel Dachnolyan-- Doctor survived Mt Everest climb and returned to Russia, it seems he liked to change his name, just coincidence possibility, two men going under the name Doctor.
The fact you kept switching from Everest to whatever that native name is made this very difficult to follow. I kept thinking that you were talking about a sherpa or something.
Most common answer to your question: "Based on my experience, been raised 50 years after this is claimed to have happened, in a town of the East (of USA), I can assure you that a video in RUclips of an anticommunist considers this to be highly credible, as "that's how commies behave"".
Waaaaiiiiit a min - so they sent people looking for them and these people went to the last camp they were heard from, at 28k ft - but those ppl had no interest in summiting!?!? That makes NO SENSE.
First of all YOU don't know who George Everest was and you prove it woth the incorrect pronounciation. Second of all. Expeditions in early 2000's were finding traces of 1924 and 1933 british and 1960 chinese expeditions. Am I supposed to believe that a 36 to 160 people strong expedition left absolutely no trace? This story is a nonsense.
Yeah what a disaster your independence has been , super infaltion n needed to beg from the UK when you went bust , embarrassing you should forget your rag of a flag , love from Scotland,UK
at 11:39 where they show the russian mountairing skills is all I need to know about there attempt. The russians tried to land a man on the moon but couldnt get the rocket off the launchpad without exploding, there attempt at mount everest was equally tragic, they decided to take a break in the "deadzone" to drink vodka (the nectar of champions) and they succomb to the freezing weather. I suspect the indian government kept it secret to protect russias prestige in the world and also due to threats from russia. Russia was a big bully in the 1950's preferring to use violence to silence there enemies. RIP to all the innocent peaceful russians who were neutralized during the attempt, they gave it there best, but there best wasnt enough.
@@kathryncumberland Notorious? Probably because the British Empire was the last great European empire, and was the largest empire in history. Britain gets flak for its negative affect on countries, yet its positives aren't mentioned... Britain brought democracy to countries - and often usurped local warlords and princes who mistreated their people. The UK gave these places organisations, hospitals, modern medicine, roads, rail, steamships, industry and more productive agriculture... If Europeans never existed do you think any of the former colonies would have advanced beyond a little bit of metalworking? In North America indigenes hadn't changed culturally, politically or at all, really, they were nomads hunting buffalo 12,000 years ago, and they were doing the same thing when Europeans arrived. Within 200 to 300 hundred years of their arrival, using the same land and resources, Europeans built the greatest country on Earth - the USA! Not saying everything's right, but a world without Europeans wouldn't be much changed today.
0:09 Mount Everest's peak is the highest altitude above mean sea level. Mount Chimborazo's peak is the furthest point on Earth from Earth's center. The summit is over 6,800 feet [2,072 meters] farther from Earth's center than Mount Everest's summit. So highest point on earth is Mount Chimborazo's peak not Mount Everest's peak.
Everest has'nt been renamed on western charts. And there is no need to. Every country can name the mountain as they know it and the Western World knows it as Mount Everest. To make a false claim makes you a political activist of the worst kind, because you lie in the hope it carries.
In my opinion worse thing ever people allowed to climb Mt Everst so they can go on a big ego trip dump all their fifthy rubbish destroy something truly holy and beautiful mainly due to greed has now turned into a real circus. If you can put one foot in front of the other you can climb Mt Everst.
I think it's weird not to call the mountain Mount Everest. Everybody in the world knows this name, but nobody knows the name you uses. I like your videos a lot, but this feels kinda pretentious.
Its not pretentious, its respectful. The natives called the mountain Chomolungma for centuries, even millenia, b4 the English came. Why is it pretentious to call it by its true name? U dont get to move into an old neighborhood and just rename everything. The official name is Chomolungma. Insisting, that Mount Everest is the "real" name, is the pretentious position, pure entitled colonialism.
Uluru used to be called Ayres Rock. Out of everything this narrator said, I find this point the least pretentious. There are so many of these mystery channels that talk weird. Can't work out if it's American syntax or just a kid who is trying to sound educated and important and failing. But I speak British English and maybe this is normal American reporting.
@dfuher968 there wasn't A single name. There isn't A group of natives. There are and were MANY groups and it was precisely BECAUSE there were many different names that they decided not to favor one local over others (in other cases, they just chosen the local names, please check the names of the 8000m peaks or the 7000m if you don't belive me). Everest opposed that naming, among other things because it wasn't writable in Hindi. China opposed the name Everest in 2002 so they can claim to have the first map with the "correct" name, in Tibetan. The Nepalese created a "Nepalese" name for the mountain in the 60s, to avoid using the "foreign" tibetan name... So it's a lot more complicated than "natives" goodies (and who the f**k cares who they actually are) and "whites" baddies (and who the f**k cares what they actually did).
The video starts with an explanation of the Woke BS unpronounceable name for Mount Everest that no one calls it. I was in the Honolulu airport recently. Automated announcements were being broadcast over the airport speakers in English and Hawaiian. How many people on planet Earth speak only Hawaiian and not English? I would guess the number is zero. I could be wrong. Maybe there are 5 or 6 99 year olds that only speak Hawaiian but I doubt it. White guilt sux. We need to stop hating ourselves and be proud of who we are and what we have accomplished on earth. By "we" I mean White people.
@@saralotti7174 Anyone can edit Wikipedia, which is how it stays so extremely accurate--incorrect information is quickly replaced. Of course, editors are expected to have citations to actual evidence, not made-up and thoroughly disproven conspiracy theories.
Mallory’s body was found about 24 years ago. Its true there‘s no proof that he reached the top of Everest….but…the climbers who found him…thought his position was consistent with Mallory’s decent from the peak…when he fell. The position of his body was a known decent route and the torn rope led up the slope in the right direction. Irving‘s body was reported by a Chinese climber in 1960s but the location was not clear and his body was never found again.
I mean he was found DEscending but how on earth would a descent from the peak be different to a descent from a slightly lower point? How would you tell where the descent started?
@@annnee6818
Good point, could be inline with the same angle etc.
They assumed, he must have reached the peak, as according to the ppl, who found him, the only route to get from, where he was last seen, to where he was found, wouldve been via the peak.
As circumstantial evidence, he was known to be carrying a photo of his wife in his wallet, which he had promised to leave on the peak, and when he was found, his wallet was in his pocket, including an unpaid bill for his gloves, but his wifes photo was not there.
Unfortunately his altimeter had been broken in his fall, and Irvine was carrying the camera.
He also didn’t have the photo of his wife which he was supposed to leave on the peak. Unfortunately they think that a Chinese expedition found Irvine, took his camera film and destroyed it while trying to process it. At least one of the climbers met with a British diplomat and reiterated this story.
“Pan Dou and Fuzhou said that on the 1975 Chinese expedition to the North Face of Everest, the team had found the body of Sandy Irvine and the Kodak VPK, which they brought home. Later, Chinese technicians attempted to develop the film but were unable to recover any images.
As all members of the British Foreign Service are trained to do, the diplomat took thorough notes at the meeting. He later wrote a memo, which he sent to Sir George Bishop and possibly the Foreign Office, but the document has disappeared. I searched the RGS; the diplomat pored over the UK National Archives for days; I was even in touch with Sir George Bishop's relatives, who told me that Bishop's widow burned all of his papers upon his death.”
That film likely would have answered the mystery- if Mallory and Irvine reached the summit before they died.
@@ripwednesdayadams there's also talk that the Chinese threw Irvine's body over the back of the mountain.
The summit that was once considered the crowning achievement in mountaineering is now visited by more than 600 people per year. In 2019, the Nepali government removed 10,000 kilograms of trash from the mountain. There are even helicopter rides available up to a point to save the tourists some walking. Is it just me or does anyone else feel that not every spot on the planet should be turned into a July 4th BBQ in a park?
Keep secrets if you find special places.
I feel this way about Yosemite national park. Some places need to be left the hell alone for the animals and for preservation of its beauty.
@@88Kimberly888 I believe parts of Yosemite now need a permit to visit, and so do Zion and Glacier NP.
The video was fascinating! Thank you. Very interesting.
especially for those with no brain.
so smart video.
It's the Walt Disney Park mentality of people with money.
And as for "July 4th BBQ," don't be such a xenophobe, I know Mt Everest is very much visited by the Japanese and Europeans.
Sir Edmund Hillary is a national hero here in NZ. He spent most of his life fighting for the rights of Sherpa, and for the preservation of the mountain, and he never cared about credit.
Honestly everytime I hear his name it makes me so proud to be. New Zealander. Just like when sir Peter Blake is mentioned, my heart though heavy is proud to say he is New Zealander. And as for the sherpas he really did fight for so long for the rights. Opened that weird airport and never cared about the press. Man national pride feels good
I once saw a short clip, after Mallorys body had been found, where Sir Edmund was asked, if he thought, Mallory had been the first to reach the peak, as circumstantial evidence hinted at. His answer was, that in his opinion a successful ascend included making it down alive. A very graceful statement and a good point.
I know, there are staunch Mallory camps and staunch Hillary camps, each vociferously claiming, their guy was first. Honestly, I dont think, it matters. It doesnt have to be either 1 or the other. Mallory might have been first, at this point its unlikely, we will ever know for certain, but Sir Edmund and Tenzing were the first to reach the peak and live to tell about it. Both were accomplished climbers, and even if Mallory reached the peak in 1924, it takes nothing from Sir Edmund and Tenzing.
Sir Edmund was a great climber and a great man. The Mallory question certainly imo casts no aspersions on his great achievements in both climbing and subsequent good work.
I think Mallory got to the top first tbh
As a Aussie I’m sort of surprised we haven’t claimed Hillary as Australian. We normally do for globally successful New Zealanders.
@@liamgross7217Well, the U.K. has pretty much claimed him.
In his defense, Everest oppose the naming the mountain after him. He prefer local name of the mountain.
Thank you. The arrogance of those who "discovered" a mountain that's been there for millions of years and well known to indigenous populations is astounding. Like Columbus "discovering" America, which had already been visited by the French, the Chinese, and many more. The arrogance of colonizers...incredible.
The video was fascinating! Thank you. Very interesting.
especially for those with no brain.
so smart video.
@@miapdx503where are you getting that the French and Chinese had already been to America?
Dude... Did you say there was nothing particularly special about George Everest??! That is a wildly foolish thing to say. He accurately mapped the entire mountain range in the area, and massive parts of India that had previously been inaccurately mapped with no elevation mapping done. That's such a dumb thing to say in a video about mountaineering 😆
Yeah, how they want it to be called now? Mount CheechnChong? Ain't nobody calling Mount Everest that.
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The video was fascinating! Thank you. Very interesting.
especially for those with no brain.
so smart video.
Always a good day to see you post!!!
There’s a relatively small RUclips channel called Michael Tracy who makes a very compelling argument for Mallory and Irving summiting. I tend to believe they did
They might have, but I think a successful climb needs to include making it back down alive.
Interesting channel . Recommended
yea. exactly. he was found DEscending . but he decided go back BEFORE summit or after??
. I tend to believe they did. i was trhere.
The video was fascinating! Thank you. Very interesting.
especially for those with no brain.
so smart video.
Hes a crack pot
Wow 16 seconds ago... Literally the quickest view I've ever done lol. Looking forward to this! :D
Ayy!! Lovely to see you back, I've missed ya man!
Even if there were only 6 on the expedition I find it hard to believe there was zero evidence on the mountain and no bodies found. No chance there were 160 on the expedition.
Well most of the 160 wouldn't have been on the mountain. It's vaguely feasible an avalanche swept the camp and climbers off the side of the mountain and the glacier swallowed them. And just because no evidence was found doesn't mean there isn't any. But you're not wrong it us equally possible it was just a hoax. I certainly don't have the answer😂
@@annnee6818 It's very unlikely, there's people who document every piece of equipment and all of the bodies around Everest. Most things are preserved, sometimes buried and later revealed after a storm or avalanche. It's very unlikely there wouldn't be a single shred of evidence, but maybe we'll find some evidence someday.
Where were they dropped? Has anyone seen the planes? I'm sure the local villagers would have remembered something of this magnitude. Scientists going beyond 8,000 m without proper training and gear? Were they forced into it, or they volunteered? Why no reliable sources were provided by those who talked about it? Stalin's record being what it is, I think many legends about the Soviets were created by western propaganda. Not a shred of evidence in this story; only hearsay.
Sweetie. We humans regularly lose our keys in our own houses. Believe it. Nature is far more vast then you and I can imagine. Next time you're camping in the woods do a few tests with friends: see how far sound carries at 100ft, 200ft, 300ft. You'll be stunned to find out how quickly voices fade unless they're bouncing on rock.
yeah maybe use real units like meters next instead of the ridiculous nonsesne feet@@Loralanthalas
05:50 "Then Moscow started to worry and sent planes to Nepal"
It was probably more like: "With radio silence and the possibility of sabotage or treason being instigated by the
mountaineers, the NKVD was immediately sent out to Mt. Everest to investigate any potential crimes or capitalist subversion."
And to remove any evidence of a failed expedition ever being there.
Sorry comrade. You knew too much. 🔫🔫
The KGB probably heard someone say "Fuck Stalin" in the background while talking to the climbers on the radio...
The video was fascinating! Thanks very much!!
The video was fascinating! Thank you. Very interesting.
especially for those with no brain.
so smart video.
People trying to decide if they believe in this expedition based on whether it would be "logical" for USSR to send amateurs instead of professionals are ignoring russia's documented pattern of prioritizing propaganda over results. Propaganda oriented logic doesn't ask what will work, only what will look the best. If they sent professional climbers - people whose names were known - it would have created an "event", people would have expectations that could be dashed if they failed, and then the world could say, "Look, even their best wasn't good enough". But if amateurs succeeded then USSR could say that communism empowered even average people to be capable of greatness. And if it failed it could be swept under the rug in a way professional, known climbers couldn't. It is fruitless to try to decide what is real based off of what "feels" logical. Logic would dictate that a modern army educated in radiation wouldn't deliberately encamp troops at the site of a radioactive disaster and allow them to dig trenches in the irradiated soil, buuuut......that is exactly what the russian army did last year in Ukraine. Once you scratch the surface, examples abound. Poorly prepared propaganda oriented actions that are then swept under the rug by officials looking to cover their butts is russia's M.O.
"We need 10,000 widgets in 5 minutes... and make sure to take down the names of those involved. Is the party leader in agreement? Yes? Good. I'll see you in 5 minutes."
It's funny that for someone who yaps a lot about propaganda you end your blabbering with... propaganda. Care to remind us how is that war going? Oh no, I bet you moved on to the next "news" cycle.
What is a high mountain canard? 8:52. "They tried to strangle this canard"
Imagining Russians strangling a duck.
Ah, ok, i just Googled it and it means an unfounded story.
Russians HATE ducks 🦆
I’m just glad Archie figured out how to Soviet properly
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The video was fascinating! Thank you. Very interesting.
especially for those with no brain.
so smart video.
There would be food,tents,ropes,bodies and oxygen bottles left on the mountain from any expedition that large. The story doesn't hold water.
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Not only do very few know about Everest’s namesake George Everest, but everyone pronounces the peak’s name (ever-est), when the man’s name is actually pronounced (eeve-rest).
Very true, I did not know about the pronunciation of Everest's name. I suspect most people think of it as ever-rest due to the large number of deaths there, with the souls "ever" resting on the mountain.
Do you know why no one pronounces his name that way? Because that’s not how it’s spelled. And if he wants his name pronounced that way, he should spell it that way.
@@prowlprime I agree with that. I *loathe* when parents decide to give a unique spelling of a name to their child. If you want to name your kid "Jason" or "Isabella" then
just do it, don't name then "jayceson" or "Isybella" then get all pissy when nobody says their name correctly.
Makes sense to send unknown hikers. If they fail, it's much easier to have plausible deniability
What materials are you talking about at15:11? Where did you even hear about this? If it's top secret where did you get the info at9:21, including Dr Pavel Dachnolyan's name?
Yea and the radio calls to Moscow saying they were camping at 8,050 meters, where did that info come from?
Very interesting, I had never heard of this before! Given how the Soviets were trying to do everything before the US, it would be more unbelievable if they hadn't sent a team to Mount Everest.
Thank you. Very interesting.
In the beginning non-sufficiently-altitude-acclimated climbers died from pulmonary adema I think. Still do but its understood now.
It's impossible to know if its true or not but this is the type of thing the Soviets would have done.
If they had succeeded they would have been heroes, if they failed they simply deny that it ever happened. Just like the dead soviet cosmonauts that "never existed" even though we have audio of them burning up during reentry.
Where can I listen to this audio? I have long read about these cosmonauts but was not aware audio exists. I haven't read about this story in decades. lol
@@no-barknoonan1335it's on RUclips just look up cosmonaut dies on re entry audio
@@no-barknoonan1335 "Final Words of Soviet Female Cosmonaut Lost in Space" is the title of the video here on youtube.
It was proven to be fake. It was 2 Italian brothers who were radio enthusiasts. Yes you can hear Russian language in the audio BUT the woman was talking in a distinct Italian accent in the audio.
Yeah, those audio recordings are well known fakes. If all else, the fact that radio transmission is impossible during reentry should disqualify their credibility.
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The video was fascinating! Thank you. Very interesting.
especially for those with no brain.
so smart video.
Peter Habeler was 10 in 1952, safe to say guy didnt have any special information.
A little correction it was called Everest due to the fact the topographical team were unable to find an agreed upon name from the local communities as they all had different names for it & none of them were prepared to accept some orher communities name over there's there's.
Data and information without blaming "Colonizers"?
It CAN'T be true!
All native communities are, by default, angelical and you'll never find any of those supermen and superwoman having an argument ever. For sure Everest killed all of them and played football with their heads, because he was white and always wanted a Nepalese mountain called after him.
That's MY history and you can't deny it.
@@estrafalario5612Just like chill dude. I don’t think it’s super unreasonable that people who had been in the region for thousands of years and had their own names for their own lands geography, might get slightly annoyed that one British dude measures it and all of a sudden THATS the name everyone across the globe everyone remembers. Besides even if there was any disagreement amongst the inhabitants of the region on what it was called, it’s not like it would have been hard at all to find a Nepalese word for it. You don’t need to lose your mind over this
@@bergjung How they want it to be called now? Mount CheechnChong? Ain't nobody calling Mount Everest that
It is a possibility that the expeditionaries were covert military soldiers, so they could keep the thing secret.
Highly doubt any files still exist with how secretive the Soviet jokers were back then and now
I find this story hard to believe.
I’ll bet they never left the top. They’re beautiful color markers at some place up there.
For it to count you got to make it down .
...And making it down is often harder than climbing up
There is also an option that the group was able to somehow run away and start new lives in local countries. They would probably stay quiet, as USSR had some influence over the region.
If they were all inexperienced climbers like the video says I can believe that. Perhaps they couldn't make any progress climbing so they falsified their reports then fled. It could explain no evidence being found in their reported locations
That would make sense why the Russian government then made such a secret about it! I wonder ... 🤔
Defectors! That would explain the Soviets' not wanting to acknowledge the outcome.
I would understand if they were running away to the West, but to Nepal and China???? That time these countries could offer poorer life standard than the USSR itself.
Wikipedia is not a source.
Cited articles in it can be credible.
Good morning hope you’re doing well❤
Hi, a snip from Dyatlov Pass keeps its secrets.
A certain person going under the name of Andrei Deev also known as Doctor a Geologist was on Mt Kholat Syhl or Dead Mountain, on the 4th and 5th February 1959, close to where nine Politech students died, is it possible Pavel Dachnolyan-- Doctor survived Mt Everest climb and returned to Russia, it seems he liked to change his name, just coincidence possibility, two men going under the name Doctor.
The fact you kept switching from Everest to whatever that native name is made this very difficult to follow. I kept thinking that you were talking about a sherpa or something.
In old Soviet Union, if you climb mountain but can't reach top, KGB make sure you reach bottom again very fast!
I’m reading this in Russian accent in my mind 😀
It never happened. 100 people 😂😂😂
And not 1 body found? Doesn’t make any sense. Where’s the physical evidence?
Most common answer to your question:
"Based on my experience, been raised 50 years after this is claimed to have happened, in a town of the East (of USA), I can assure you that a video in RUclips of an anticommunist considers this to be highly credible, as "that's how commies behave"".
They defected, and gradually made their way to Thailand.
That's the unlikely happy ending story, but I like to pretend that is how it ended.
Waaaaiiiiit a min - so they sent people looking for them and these people went to the last camp they were heard from, at 28k ft - but those ppl had no interest in summiting!?!? That makes NO SENSE.
Their orders was only to find them not climb to the top
First of all YOU don't know who George Everest was and you prove it woth the incorrect pronounciation. Second of all. Expeditions in early 2000's were finding traces of 1924 and 1933 british and 1960 chinese expeditions. Am I supposed to believe that a 36 to 160 people strong expedition left absolutely no trace? This story is a nonsense.
I think the ETs picked them up and the peak of Mt Chomolungma was the agreed rendezvous point. The subsequent 'rescue' mission was just a cover up
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If you're going use Oogooboogoo names then use Sagarmatha.
Ireland gained independence from the English in 1921. We also have our own flag. Please keep that in mind for future docs. Love your stuff.
Yeah what a disaster your independence has been , super infaltion n needed to beg from the UK when you went bust , embarrassing you should forget your rag of a flag , love from Scotland,UK
@@shady.219 how's that independence working for ya Scotty? Since Brexit is going so well...
The Chinese only made it to the bottom of the citadel in 1960, there was no summit that year from the north side.
I love that you use the native name for this mountain. It's just the decent thing to do. Thankyou.
at 11:39 where they show the russian mountairing skills is all I need to know about there attempt. The russians tried to land a man on the moon but couldnt get the rocket off the launchpad without exploding, there attempt at mount everest was equally tragic, they decided to take a break in the "deadzone" to drink vodka (the nectar of champions) and they succomb to the freezing weather.
I suspect the indian government kept it secret to protect russias prestige in the world and also due to threats from russia. Russia was a big bully in the 1950's preferring to use violence to silence there enemies. RIP to all the innocent peaceful russians who were neutralized during the attempt, they gave it there best, but there best wasnt enough.
How does someone seem knowledgeable but not know “their” from “there”??? “They’re”???
How is this such a thing?
Every Everest video that we see repeats the whole story. Maybe it’d be a good idea to jump right into the story 10:00
only master climbers could make 8000 meters
Uh no one but Nepalese are calling Everest : Chomolunga. That's not happening.
The British thought EVERYTHING was theirs 😒
They still do. (😂)
It's a European thing, the Spanish did it, the Dutch did it, the Belgian did it and the list goes on ...
@@silentbliss7666 I know, but the British are the most notorious.
Not really, I think that goes to the Belgians,The English are Kind of the easy target.@@kathryncumberland
@@kathryncumberland Notorious? Probably because the British Empire was the last great European empire, and was the largest empire in history. Britain gets flak for its negative affect on countries, yet its positives aren't mentioned... Britain brought democracy to countries - and often usurped local warlords and princes who mistreated their people. The UK gave these places organisations, hospitals, modern medicine, roads, rail, steamships, industry and more productive agriculture...
If Europeans never existed do you think any of the former colonies would have advanced beyond a little bit of metalworking? In North America indigenes hadn't changed culturally, politically or at all, really, they were nomads hunting buffalo 12,000 years ago, and they were doing the same thing when Europeans arrived. Within 200 to 300 hundred years of their arrival, using the same land and resources, Europeans built the greatest country on Earth - the USA!
Not saying everything's right, but a world without Europeans wouldn't be much changed today.
Nope, I know it as Everest, everyone I know also know it as Everest. Chumbawumba is nonsense.
So there's no evidence this expedition ever happened at all.
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Mount Everest's peak is the highest altitude above mean sea level. Mount Chimborazo's peak is the furthest point on Earth from Earth's center. The summit is over 6,800 feet [2,072 meters] farther from Earth's center than Mount Everest's summit. So highest point on earth is Mount Chimborazo's peak not Mount Everest's peak.
How many people have ever climbed a mountain from the sea bottom?
To start a competition, don't you need at least one person?
Stop climbing it.
If China or the Soviets made it to the top be a large flag there to show the world
Everest has'nt been renamed on western charts. And there is no need to. Every country can name the mountain as they know it and the Western World knows it as Mount Everest. To make a false claim makes you a political activist of the worst kind, because you lie in the hope it carries.
Russia has never really been any good at doing anything really,
They have accomplished more than most nations. Regardless how a person feels about them
Mount ChimiChanga.
The soviets defected via the Everest. Good for them.
In my opinion worse thing ever people allowed to climb Mt Everst so they can go on a big ego trip dump all their fifthy rubbish destroy something truly holy and beautiful mainly due to greed has now turned into a real circus. If you can put one foot in front of the other you can climb Mt Everst.
As raw as soviet ..
I think it's weird not to call the mountain Mount Everest. Everybody in the world knows this name, but nobody knows the name you uses. I like your videos a lot, but this feels kinda pretentious.
Its not pretentious, its respectful. The natives called the mountain Chomolungma for centuries, even millenia, b4 the English came. Why is it pretentious to call it by its true name? U dont get to move into an old neighborhood and just rename everything.
The official name is Chomolungma. Insisting, that Mount Everest is the "real" name, is the pretentious position, pure entitled colonialism.
It made the video extremely difficult to follow. He kept switching from its real name to whatever the native word is.
Uluru used to be called Ayres Rock.
Out of everything this narrator said, I find this point the least pretentious. There are so many of these mystery channels that talk weird. Can't work out if it's American syntax or just a kid who is trying to sound educated and important and failing. But I speak British English and maybe this is normal American reporting.
@dfuher968
there wasn't A single name.
There isn't A group of natives.
There are and were MANY groups and it was precisely BECAUSE there were many different names that they decided not to favor one local over others (in other cases, they just chosen the local names, please check the names of the 8000m peaks or the 7000m if you don't belive me). Everest opposed that naming, among other things because it wasn't writable in Hindi.
China opposed the name Everest in 2002 so they can claim to have the first map with the "correct" name, in Tibetan.
The Nepalese created a "Nepalese" name for the mountain in the 60s, to avoid using the "foreign" tibetan name...
So it's a lot more complicated than "natives" goodies (and who the f**k cares who they actually are) and "whites" baddies (and who the f**k cares what they actually did).
I'll never understand why the Soviet Union hid information from the world. The world would've been a better place from their inputs.
Only showed results
Covered up failure
Because Soviet progress was usually made on the backs of a lot deaths and failures, or just stealing tech from the West.
Seems fake
Call it what you like , who cares.
No one cares about the name, cmon
Why are you talking sooo weird.
The video starts with an explanation of the Woke BS unpronounceable name for Mount Everest that no one calls it. I was in the Honolulu airport recently. Automated announcements were being broadcast over the airport speakers in English and Hawaiian. How many people on planet Earth speak only Hawaiian and not English? I would guess the number is zero. I could be wrong. Maybe there are 5 or 6 99 year olds that only speak Hawaiian but I doubt it. White guilt sux. We need to stop hating ourselves and be proud of who we are and what we have accomplished on earth. By "we" I mean White people.
I love mount cowabunga
Best comment of all
😂😂😂 Wikipedia is the worst place to get accurate information
Unless you are into conspiracy theories, wikipedia is a place to get extremely accurate information.
@@thelogicaldangeryou misspelled propaganda.😉
@@saralotti7174 Anyone can edit Wikipedia, which is how it stays so extremely accurate--incorrect information is quickly replaced. Of course, editors are expected to have citations to actual evidence, not made-up and thoroughly disproven conspiracy theories.
These are ai generated
Wonder how horrible and painful their last moments must have been and if been a secret was fking worth it🫨