This is good information. I actually have an original Cooey Model 64. After 60 years, the clip still works, but if I need to swap it out, I know where to turn. Thanks.
I traded my chiappa la322 for a cooey 64 and its awesome. Metal magazine conversion and its a very accurate 22lr. I love shooting quiets 835 fps hollowpoints and subsonics at 850 fps. From cci. Im thinking of adding a 4x power scope for targets and far range sniping for gophers at 100 yards to 200 yards. My very first animal i shot was a duck at 100 yards and got a neckshot. Lucky first shot. I had to walk in the middle of the pond , i didnt know to shoot the edge birds . Cooeys are the best made 22 lrs
Good stuff Doug! It's nice to know the Savage parts will swap over to the model '64 with a little love. I just saw this one today while browsing your videos. I think the "Tube" hides these.
Thanks for checking it out. I suspect this video will not do well over time because it is outside what I normally work on. My channel doesn't have any other firearm repair videos on it. So far, the video has been doing okay but RUclips tends to hide stuff that doesn't fit with the normal theme of the channel.
I like the Cooey brand mainly for sentimental reasons, but I sold my 64 when I was young because I didn't like the mechanism between the bolt and the clip. It would jam and you could see it binding on the clip. It was a bad design IMHO and it was a shame they didn't fix that flaw. I never did figure out whether it was a design flaw or a manufacturing tolerance flaw, but I didn't keep the 22 for more than a year or two and went back to enjoying my dad's model 60 bolt action which had no jamming problems.
@@DougsMessyGarage Not sure - I was a teen at the time and really didn't study it hard to discern which it was, but it was like that from the beginning, and I tried a few different ammo types which didn't fix it. Perhaps in 10 rounds, I might get a jam or two. With a Ruger 10/22, perhaps I've done a 1000+ rounds, not a jam, but I've had a few dud Remington bullets that didn't fire (uneven cap powder I think) as the dent was fine, and if I put it in again it would fire on second attempt so my theory is they didn't cover the entire rim area in manufacturing. But that is the only brand where I've seen that happen and CCI never a failure.
I have an A model 64 that's already been modernized with the savage style magazine well, but the ejector spring was missing entirely when i got it. the next time you have it open, would you be willing to take a scan or a photo on graph paper of the spring and send the pictures to me, i've gotten close using a photo i found online of an ejector spring from a cooey 64 but i still get a lot of failure to eject so i suspect it's still not quite right.
It's been a while but if I remember correctly, the 64b shouldn't need this kit. Basically, this kit makes a 64a into a 64b. If your 64b is broken though, this should fit. Keep in mind these were pretty inexpensive guns in their day and there may be some variation in the manufacturing tolerances.
I see your bolt doesn't have the right side extractor and its retaining screw. I know blow-back rifles generally extract brass without an extractor but I am curious; does your rifle shoot normally in semi-auto mode or does it have failure to eject occasionally?
I also see your bolt doesn't have the right side extractor and its retaining screw. The spent casing will blow back and out fine when fired. The problem with missing extractor is that if you stop shooting half way through a mag and remove the mag, you can not get the self-loaded shell out of the breach with our firing it off. My Sureshot (Cooey model 64) rifle was like this all the time I was growing up in the 1970s. Anyone not familiar with the rifle can pull back the breach block thinking they have cleared the breach, but as there is no ejector, the shell has not come out and the rifle is still loaded and ready to fire - a very unsafe condition. For this reason, I could never let anyone else use my rifle; I only handled it myself. This may be worth mentioning in the Vid as you have a rifle there with the extractor and extractor screw missing, no mention it is missing or what the consequence of this is. Otherwise, this is a great Vid and I thank you for the work you put into it.
I am in the process of overhauling this same rifle. The problem I was having was that the spent casing would not eject. I took it apart and noticed it did not have an ejector, so I bought one. I can’t seem to find a video on how to properly install it. Also, I did not have what he calls a spring in this video. The bent wire that sits in a groove on the barrel. Any tips?
@@jonhelguson I believe Savage Arms still sells essentially the same rifle, only with a synthetic stock. Perhaps Savage Arms has replacement parts for the Cooey Model 64.
@@jonhelguson that spring is the original version of the ejector, most models of cooey/winchester/lakefield/savage use a more common fixed stamped metal ejector, but these early models used a cleverly shaped piece of spring wire. i spent a few hours bending, fitting and fine tuning a piece of spring wire to replace the missing original in my cooey 64. if yours has a slot with a small pin hole in it, it takes the wire ejector, if it's a slot with a larger dimple, it takes the modern flat ejector. no one carries the springs so it's a make your own deal there i'm afraid.
Replacement clips for the original Cooey Model 64 are not available. You need to get a conversion kit like I did and update itto the more modern Savage style clip. The kit i used was : westerngunparts.com/product/cooey-64-conversion-kit/ But there are others available out there
Absolutely wicked video, thanks for going into detail with the firing mechanism. Great content :)
Thanks for checking it out.
Same sentiment here! Thank you for the video and the great detail!
This is good information. I actually have an original Cooey Model 64. After 60 years, the clip still works, but if I need to swap it out, I know where to turn. Thanks.
Thanks for watching and for commenting.
The spring at about 12:30 is the ejector
Good to see I was not the only one with the magazine not fitting. Will try filing it down thanks!
You may also have to massage the inside of the magazine for the rounds to feed smoothly.
I use a shim made from a popca n under the magazine catch assy. Pushes down the rear of the magazine and feeds better
@@ndenise3460 awesome! Filing it down seemed to work for me but I had to file down a lot of surface.
Calling the magazine a clip really grinds my gears but other that that it was a solid video.
Good point, I will have to remember that for the future. Thanks for watching.
Hello any chance you can take a picture of the wire ejector next to a ruler. That part is no long available my cooey is missing it.
I traded my chiappa la322 for a cooey 64 and its awesome. Metal magazine conversion and its a very accurate 22lr. I love shooting quiets 835 fps hollowpoints and subsonics at 850 fps. From cci. Im thinking of adding a 4x power scope for targets and far range sniping for gophers at 100 yards to 200 yards. My very first animal i shot was a duck at 100 yards and got a neckshot. Lucky first shot. I had to walk in the middle of the pond , i didnt know to shoot the edge birds . Cooeys are the best made 22 lrs
thank you for this
Thanks for watching
Good stuff Doug! It's nice to know the Savage parts will swap over to the model '64 with a little love. I just saw this one today while browsing your videos. I think the "Tube" hides these.
Thanks for checking it out. I suspect this video will not do well over time because it is outside what I normally work on. My channel doesn't have any other firearm repair videos on it. So far, the video has been doing okay but RUclips tends to hide stuff that doesn't fit with the normal theme of the channel.
The firing line is a stamped piece, normally has some burrs, I stone the sides smooth, and then hit with rouge on the buffing wheel
Good job. Look out birds!
For sure
I like the Cooey brand mainly for sentimental reasons, but I sold my 64 when I was young because I didn't like the mechanism between the bolt and the clip. It would jam and you could see it binding on the clip. It was a bad design IMHO and it was a shame they didn't fix that flaw. I never did figure out whether it was a design flaw or a manufacturing tolerance flaw, but I didn't keep the 22 for more than a year or two and went back to enjoying my dad's model 60 bolt action which had no jamming problems.
It may have been a manufacturing tolerance issue as these were pretty inexpensive rifles when they were new.
@@DougsMessyGarage Not sure - I was a teen at the time and really didn't study it hard to discern which it was, but it was like that from the beginning, and I tried a few different ammo types which didn't fix it. Perhaps in 10 rounds, I might get a jam or two. With a Ruger 10/22, perhaps I've done a 1000+ rounds, not a jam, but I've had a few dud Remington bullets that didn't fire (uneven cap powder I think) as the dent was fine, and if I put it in again it would fire on second attempt so my theory is they didn't cover the entire rim area in manufacturing. But that is the only brand where I've seen that happen and CCI never a failure.
Watching you clean up & show love to that old 64 made me so happy. Any future video plans for the wood stock?
Potentially. This is the first gun video I have done so I guess it depends on how well this one is received. Thanks for watching and commenting
I have an A model 64 that's already been modernized with the savage style magazine well, but the ejector spring was missing entirely when i got it. the next time you have it open, would you be willing to take a scan or a photo on graph paper of the spring and send the pictures to me, i've gotten close using a photo i found online of an ejector spring from a cooey 64 but i still get a lot of failure to eject so i suspect it's still not quite right.
I think the failure to eject might be a ‘feature’ of this rifle. Mine fails to eject occasionally too
Will this conversation work on my 64b?
It's been a while but if I remember correctly, the 64b shouldn't need this kit. Basically, this kit makes a 64a into a 64b. If your 64b is broken though, this should fit. Keep in mind these were pretty inexpensive guns in their day and there may be some variation in the manufacturing tolerances.
I just got one from a friend of mine in very poor shape. I want to restore it. The mag is missing
@@Scotttt34 If you have a B model, I think you can use the modern Savage Model 64 magazine.
That’s great. Thanks
I see your bolt doesn't have the right side extractor and its retaining screw. I know blow-back rifles generally extract brass without an extractor but I am curious; does your rifle shoot normally in semi-auto mode or does it have failure to eject occasionally?
The only problem I had when firing was the clip needed some tweaking to feed smoothly.
@@noele6588 Thanks for watching and for adding the great comments
I also see your bolt doesn't have the right side extractor and its retaining screw. The spent casing will blow back and out fine when fired. The problem with missing extractor is that if you stop shooting half way through a mag and remove the mag, you can not get the self-loaded shell out of the breach with our firing it off. My Sureshot (Cooey model 64) rifle was like this all the time I was growing up in the 1970s. Anyone not familiar with the rifle can pull back the breach block thinking they have cleared the breach, but as there is no ejector, the shell has not come out and the rifle is still loaded and ready to fire - a very unsafe condition. For this reason, I could never let anyone else use my rifle; I only handled it myself. This may be worth mentioning in the Vid as you have a rifle there with the extractor and extractor screw missing, no mention it is missing or what the consequence of this is. Otherwise, this is a great Vid and I thank you for the work you put into it.
Thank you so much for the feedback. You are correct about the unfired round being a bit of a pain to eject.
I am in the process of overhauling this same rifle. The problem I was having was that the spent casing would not eject. I took it apart and noticed it did not have an ejector, so I bought one. I can’t seem to find a video on how to properly install it. Also, I did not have what he calls a spring in this video. The bent wire that sits in a groove on the barrel. Any tips?
@@jonhelguson I believe Savage Arms still sells essentially the same rifle, only with a synthetic stock. Perhaps Savage Arms has replacement parts for the Cooey Model 64.
@@DougsMessyGarage they do, I just can’t seem to find instructions on how to assemble it.
@@jonhelguson that spring is the original version of the ejector, most models of cooey/winchester/lakefield/savage use a more common fixed stamped metal ejector, but these early models used a cleverly shaped piece of spring wire. i spent a few hours bending, fitting and fine tuning a piece of spring wire to replace the missing original in my cooey 64.
if yours has a slot with a small pin hole in it, it takes the wire ejector, if it's a slot with a larger dimple, it takes the modern flat ejector. no one carries the springs so it's a make your own deal there i'm afraid.
I can’t find a magazine anywhere can you help?
Replacement clips for the original Cooey Model 64 are not available. You need to get a conversion kit like I did and update itto the more modern Savage style clip. The kit i used was : westerngunparts.com/product/cooey-64-conversion-kit/
But there are others available out there
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Took a little massaging to get the clip feeding well but it's a great little gun. Thanks for watching.
Mine took about 10 shots with stingers. But i loaded 2 at a time. And it works good now.
It was a little stiff from being brand new .