Absolutely the one guy I continue to watch and listen to in the reloading and firearms space. No fluff, no gimmick, no sponsorships that I can discern. Just honest knowledge transfer. Sir, I continue to appreciate your honest assessments of what is needed to produce quality. Thanks.
I do not consider myself to be entirely ignorant in these matters, yet every video of yours that I watch... I feel I am a student at the feet of a master. Even when you say something that I already understand, I find myself learning something. Thank you.
Amazing man, listening to him saves you hours of experimentation on the range. He is like the grandfather I never had. And I am saying this with utmost respect. Thank you sir.
I once glassed a receiver on a Sako long action (7mag) for a friend. Later, when I saw him, he said, "you ruined my rifle." So, I took his rifle and went to the range. I then shot a 3/4" 5 shot group at 100 yds. I gave him the rifle back along with my target. He just didn't know how to shoot his rifle. Worked fine for me!
You should write a book containing your information and wisdom. I'd love to have an 1st edition, leather bound and guilded, for my Sons. We're all indebted to you. Thank you!
I hear that. This guy is a pleasure to watch and listen to. He was the guy who helped get me started in reloading and get concepts down and also which books to get. He recommended the Lee manual 2nd edition and that's how I started
No worries get out when you can I enjoy you sitting and dropping your wonderful knowledge with us I'm ready for Bible study with you if you want to god bless you my friend
Thank you so much for putting you knowledge and wisdom into these videos. What a legacy! I played over and over and rewrote the part where you talk about working up a load based on 10 percent of case capacity. Fantastic method!
Awesome information. Just what I was looking for . Seems like my issue was the wind. This time! 7MM Rem Express sighted in at 150 yards. Good groups at 75, 100 and 150 yards with 150 grain bullets and IMR 4350 powder, just back and forth accross the target about 2 inches.
I love that you mention loose sights first; I've seen this more often than anyone might think. The only other thing I would mention is some very new shooters when they are first introduced to aperture sights will sometimes look over the rear sight and try to line up only the front sight.
Great explanation of target analysis. I’m always amazed at how many shooters have never been taught to analyze their targets. This was a great tutorial for reading your targets. Always glad to see another “how to” post! Take care and good luck with the upcoming hunting season!
Always great to listen to the wisdom of your generation, youre probably a good 20 years younger than my Grandpa would be if he were still around, he was a fountain of knowledge in the world of Cinema projection and film. He was an outstanding character who was in the RAF in the 40s. I'd love to sit and be able to pick his brain today but sadly cannot as he left us in 2012. I really appreciate your videos and knowledge because i always learn small details even when I think I know the full story, people like you sir are diamonds, keep up the good work and wishing you good health. 👍 From Sunny England 🏴
This man is the perfect example of what is known as wealth transfer. He transfers his vast experiance and understanding of a complex topic in a very humble and simple way.
Sir your knowledge on fire arms is priceless . Been watching your vids for years and you have made me a better shooter, hands down. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise
I really appreciate your tutorials. I learn so much. Thank you. As an "Owner", er slave, to five beagles (pound rescues) I wish Benny the best. We wish him well.
Lovely training, sir! I have been coaching Marines and Soldiers for 30 years in basic marksmanship and continue to learn. Last weekend my wife and I were out working on breath control and trigger control based on how her targets were reading to me. Keep up the great content!
I find that 336 and 94 carbines tend to string the shots vertically as the barrel gets hot due to proximity to the barrel bands. I limit my shots to 3 then let it cool off
That's their nature. As a deer rifle, they have served very well for longer than any bolt action. I only load three in mine. If one of the first two shots didn't connect, that's about the last shots any intelligent deer will give you. 😂
Good to see new videos .Every morning I get to work about 1hr early and drink coffee eat and check for new videos,today I see 2 from gunblue . Made my day
Can I adopt you as my grandfather? I love watching your videos, you vast no bs knowledge of firearms and reloading is amazing. I bet it’s fun to just hang out you and do whatever activity you have planned for the day. Great work keep the vids coming.
Aloha! You good sir, never fail in putting out a wealth of good information! I am grateful for all the hard work you put into producing such great and USEFUL videos. Thank You 🤙🏽
Aha, a rifle companion to go with your precision pistol video series. I’m teetering on the edge of going from sharpshooter to expert in bullseye pistol thanks to that series. I’m sure this video will provide similar benefits.
Thank you for all your video's. I don't get out nearly as much as I'd like but I was out shooting my hand loads. I learned how to reload by watching your videos and how much I enjoy reloading got me into fly tying. So in short I have no money and I have a hand full of bullets and fishing hooks but it's certainly been a blessing in my life. God bless you!
Another very informative video! I've handloaded for years for different cartridges and have always worked loads up in half grain increments. It makes total sense like you said to move the decimal point back two for whatever powder capacity case you're loading for! Thanks for the good advice.
Yes you are correct about free floating and bedding. I have an 40 model 700 in 7mag. I used to shoot around 1 1/4 inch groups. After I had it free floated and aluminum plier block bedded. I now shoot clover leafs 3/7 inch groups. Also put on a high quality scope. Really great video well done.
I totally support everything this man says. Had a beautiful Remington 700 sided in perfectly in a 3006. In dry weather conditions. Took it 100 miles west up into the mountains and days of rain occurred and the first time in my life I totally nastily got shot a deer and this is even after testing the rifle as soon as I arrived. I did not take a shot for two days But the moisture that occurred in the stock moved the bullet almost 10 inches to the right. That was the last wooden stock rifle I have owned that I have seriously used for hunting I go plastic yes you heard it plastic stock and I get no group change no matter the weather is much as I hate plastic I think they have kinder terms for plastic nowadays like polymer or GRP (glass reinforced plastic). And yes I have several absolutely stunningly beautiful wooden stocked rifles. But if it's due or die I'm going with "plastic". Some of you will never understand until you take your beautiful wooden rifle that's probably even more beautiful than mine into the nastiest environments on earth and then wonder why you can't hit anything. Yes yes yes supposedly they are sealed by varnishes, but those move and temperature changes. It's crazy as it sounds if you're hunting in crazy environments keep your gun protected with a good oil and leave it outside of your tent at night covered by something that will allow the outside temperature to match the temperature of the gun. if you're shooting within reasonable hunting ranges like one or 200 yards it doesn't make any difference. But if you're one that are not a hunter but rather just a shooter, other words and incompetent Hunter and want to shoot something along ways off just for pride, yeah you need to watch the temperature of your rifle with the outside temperature you are the 2%.
I’m with you boss. Time is what it takes. Hurry up range trips may be poor a condition to shoot in. Almost as relative as weather, breathing, powder or bullet selection.
Looks like we can expect rain all week into next week as Lee moves up the east coast..you.may get some flooding ,here on eastern Long Island might get some too. Ugh...I need to hit the range
Your explanation on merage is great.. that's without a suppressor on it, which can induce more optical illusions between the shooter and the target. Thank you again.
I learned to shoot when I was 9 years old. Bought my 1st AR-15 in 7.62 last month August 2023. Put my 50 year old 3-9 scope on it and fired 3 times. With my spotter scope - I only saw one hit. I got pretty mad until I pulled the target. Then I read the rifle's manual: Free "Floating Heavy Barrel". Desert Storm Vet.
@@66smithra308 is 7.62 x 51 . 7.62x39 is an intermediate cartridge commonly used in the sks and AK 47 / AKM. 7.62x39 is now used in some AR15's, by milling the bolt face to accommodate the larger diameter of the 7.62x39 round along with running a 30 caliber barrel.
19:56 "two possibilities for this (vertical stringing)" I know a third. I could not eliminate the vertical stringing of my rifle. Every load had the same result. Varying but decent horizontal spread, some (unacceptable) degree of vertical separation. Turned out to be a bad vertical control on my scope, not a loose mount, bad internals.
I'd love the have this kind fellow come shot with me and get my hand loads for my 30-06 dialed in, I'm riding the struggle bus hard trying to get this thing tuned in before deer season, lol.
I understand your pain. It does take a lot of time. But if nothing else you can always fall back on the Remington, 180 grain soft point core lock. They shoot good in all my 30-06. The first two shots are always together and the third shot drops a little bit because of barrel heat. Are usually site. Mine is an inch and three-quarter high at 100 and that put speed dead on at 200. The 180 grain is more accurate and those that are on the game than the 150s which I have had problems coming apart on me.
@timdaniels7827 I've tried some 180 grain sst bullets, they for me are actually worse, larger group size around 3 to 4 inches at 100 yards, the 165 grain interloks flat base or boat tail from hornady do decent one weekend then the next groups fail apart. More than likely I'm just getting old, lol. But I did find out I was using load data from hogden web site and it seemed odd to me for 180 grain bullet it was calling for loads that my lyman manual for imr 4350 was saying was for the 165 grain bullets. I'm using h4350 and the lyman manual doesn't show that powder, but the imr is close in amounts used. So I bought the Hornaday online manual and it shows h4350 and its on target with the lyman imr 4350 loads, give or take a tenth on starting and max loads. Lucky me I stopped when looking at hogdon and looked at others.
Would start each time with a clean barrel or would you go through the whole test without cleaning? Would you clean before you start again or leave fouled? Very informative! This video has taught me a lot! Best I’ve seen so far! Thanks you so much!
First let me start by saying thank you Gunblue!!!! I have asked quite a few people and channels how to determine the increments in each case now I know thanks
Thank you for your great videos and passing on your knowledge. All have been most helpfull and informative. Are you planning on doing a video on moderator ( suppressor) maintenance?
The weatherby vanguard and browning xbolt rifles comming outa Japan are awesome rifles. I'd put my vanguard up against any of them fancy 7000$ rifles. Bet I spank that ass
They don’t make them like they used to. That is a fact! Any new production budget rifles aren’t nearly as good as many older 60’s, 70’s, 80’s production rifles. To much cost cutting to keep prices low and competitive. To get the older budget quality you have to pay a premium price nowadays.
@@raymondjohnson6496 any rifles and shotguns coming out of Japan have very tight tolerances. SKB has been making Weatherby shotguns for decades. Miroku is an amazing company making Browning rifles and shotguns with FN still working with Browning in Portugal, Winchester rifles and O/U shotguns, not sure about the semiauto shotguns. Weatherby Vanguards are Howa rifles rebranded. Off the top of my head I can remember that Howas were sold as the S&W 1500 bolt action rifle as well as under the Mossberg 1500 name. Google is your friend here as I’m relying strictly on memory. All 3 Browning A-Bolt rifles have been tack driving laser beams! Love the B.O.S.S. System on both Browning and Winchester rifles.
I bedded my old Browning Belgian made Mauser action Safari Model chambered in .30-06. Sears Roebuck sold similar Belgian made Mauser action rifles in .30-06 and in .270. Definitely the best guns that Sears ever sold. Browning's guns were definitely a large step up from Sears, but any of those can be bedded, balanced, tuned, accurized and made into wonderful bolt rifles. The balance is lots better on the Browning, but a little lead hidden here and there, and it's balanced. Most guns sold by Sears or Wards after WWII were made by Savage, Stevens, H&R or Iver Johnson.
Very interesting and I learned alot. The target at just over the 25 minute mark with the good group and one flyer were dad's groups when he sighted in his rifle before his November deer hunt. Dad's pet load for his Winchester Model 88 was Nosler Partition 200g. He told me he never shot enough to hand load! I found it really interesting that you can find the limitations of your rifle by looking at the group!
This is excellent information, and had I known it years ago I could have saved a lot of time and ammo ;) I've chased "bad accuracy" blaming loads, when it was bedding, or blaming the rifle when it was me... LOL I'm thinking of making a chart, showing these groups and what issue they expose, and taking it to the range to compare with targets. Too much for me to remember, so a cheat sheet of sorts ;)
It's so important to listen to your target, and your explanation was concise and complete. Thank you for making time to pass on your knowledge to others. Hopefully the wind will settle down after Hurricaine Lee so you can enjoy some shooting. I was going to test out some 30-06 loads in my 03a3 today, but the gusts would preclude any useful results.
Another great video bud! I can't tell you how many times I've had arguments about this and a lot of younger tell me I'm wrong for saying this stuff! And then they wonder why I out shoot them. I'm an older guy like you and have been shooting for decades. All the guys I shoot with have learned this and if you read articles about mounting scopes and dialing them in say stop cranking things down!!
The MR-31 target is ideal for shooter/target analysis, call/shot corollary and grouping by size, shape, and placement. The author here understands all of this. He is highly credentialed to profess on this and other gun topics.
Talk to us about the placement of those scope rings. My dad has run into issues with a similar setup trying to get good eye relief yet managing the options of ring placement, notably at the extreme ends of the optic tube.
I bought an 8rd flush mount colt stamped magazine every time I have used it i get a stove pipe on the last couple rounds. I don't have that problem with my factory magazines or my Wilson Combat 8 round magazines. That is my vast experience! Could you tell me if you have had good experience with this 8 round magazine or if I should just stick with my Wilson Combat 8 round magazines. I like the 7 round magazine looks better, but like the idea of carrying 8 in the magazine with number 9 in the chamber and the smaller magazine.
I’ve sighted in probably 3 hundred rifles for guys at gun clubs, all on lead sled , never any issues? After sighting them in, I always had owners shoot their way and in most cases small adjustments were in order to fit the owner’s, style of shooting? Plus all my own rifles
Lead sled is a very loose term. A few pounds of lead is no different than a large man resisting recoil. However, adding significant weight will indeed increase dead resistance and cause stock damage. One cannot simply deny recoil without turning the recoil into a battering ram.
Climbing shots are also typical for combination guns like drillings and over-under doubles in which the barrels are soldered together. It happens especially after multiple follow-up shots when the barrel cannot expand in all directions whilst heating up. For these guns, It is recommended to wait longer periods of time between shots when sighting them in, often up to 20 minutes.
Have you ever had trouble with a synthetic stock flexing and touching the barrel causing issues? I have Ruger American predator that If I use my sling to anchor the rifle it shoots all over the place. I'm contemplating a Boyd's Spike camp stock or just trading the rifle in. It's an accurate rifle off the rest but load testing is the only time that I use a rest.
Yes, that can be an issue. My wife's .243 Ruger American is exceptionally accurate, at 1/3 MOA, but the stock is indeed very flexible and will collide with the barrel if care is not taken. That's not an issue for the sort of hunting most folks call them for, but tight slinging will require a more rigid stock.
Why do some manufacturers have the barrel pushed against the stock? My remington cdl sf 700 for example does not have free floted barrel. Is it to cut cost? After a couple of shots my groups get worse. I guess it is due to the barrel heats up and push harder to the stock.
I think #4 , 2 good, 1 bad, can also be attributed to attention, and breath control. As for "mirage-ay" I always remember the bugs bunny pronunciation. I think the last one might be the result of a bear, or bigfoot attack adrenaline dump. Blessings on your family. Thanks. Wayne
One thing that has helped me is using the correct target for the reticle in your optic. If you have crosshairs, use a contrasting colored target with right angles for perfect alignment. If you have a dot/round reticle, use a target with a round bullseye that matches the size of your reticle at a given range.
This is an issue that receives lots of attention from bench rest shooters. In my personal experience, I've never observed a change in accuracy. My late friend never, ever cleaned his Husqvarna .270 Winchester in 35 years and it always shot nickel sized groups. In his youth, he learned to shoot and load ammo with Ned Roberts (.257 Roberts), and taught me the finer aspects of shooting and handloading. He simply passed a lightly oiled patch through after the end of the day. I've fired as many as 80 rounds of 22-250 without cleaning with no loss of accuracy. I've had numerous extended shooting sessions with other calibers with no accuracy loss whatsoever. Serious fouling does occur with ultra high velocity .17 caliber bores after fewer than 20 rounds, but my friend's ultra-high velocity .204 Ruger continues to shoot the same pinhole groups after 100 rounds. Every shot carries away the fouling from the previous shot. I believe that most guns will shoot accurately without ever cleaning, though I don't recommend it, any more than I'd recommend not brushing your teeth. I always follow a strict rule of thumb and clean after every shooting session, followed by a light oiled patch, because carbon invites moisture and corrosion. My conclusion is that many bench rest shooters are simply OCD and clean their guns all the time during matches because they do everything fastidiously, not necessarily because they need to. 🙂
@@GunBlue490well said! Being a gun collector for over 6 decades I find your advise to be true and right on for most hunters! My 2 Husqvarna shoot 1 MOA and I only oil patch after a few carbon patches for the season! Love you giving advise to the up and coming hunters and shooters who need as much good advise as possible to make them aware of what’s going on with there rifle as well as themselves!
Another great educational video. Question for GunBlue490 on mirage. Can you avoid it and if so how? Not talking about barrel hear mirage. Atmospheric mirage, sir.
@@GunBlue490 thanks for responding. I have access to crop lands with various slopes and flats to chose from. I find that if I’m laying prone, even in the winter months shooting at a target level down field I get mirage. When laying prone, shooting across a field with a dip/valley between me and the target. The heat from the ground dissipates enough that it does not interfere with my target. If you can shoot high enough from ground level you don’t get the mirage effect is what I find. I use this method strictly for load development and proving the capabilities of a rifle not proving my ability as a marksman.
Your first target reminds me of a situation I had, but it wasn't bad sights. I had a brno zkk 600 in 270win which I took to the range and it was a consistent one MOA performer. At a later date I removed the stock to wipe over and lightly oil the metalwork as I'd had it out hunting in the rain. I tightened it back up to 45 inch pounds with a torque wrench and headed of to the range again. Couldn't barely hit the target and was chasing shots everywhere. After some googling I read the zkk needs 65 inch lb. I couldn't believe the difference it made, back to 1 moa
I used to own a Savage 99C in 243 Win with a Weaver 3-9 X 40 on it. The 1st 2 shots were very close, sometimes in the same hole. Every shot after that creaped further away. By the 5th shot, it was no longer even on the paper (3' X 3'). After the barrel cooled, the same pattern repeated itself, 1st 2 shots were close then creaping away. I was shooting from a bench on calm days. I was not a novice shooter by anybody's opinion. I shot factory loads back then. I tested several different manufacturers but the results were very similar. I had checked every screw, making sure they were properly tightened/torqued. Any guess as to what might have been happening with it? I sold that rifle decades ago. But I thought it might make for interesting discussion.
Sure. You're describing exactly what I detailed regarding barrel interference. The Model 99 was a very accurate rifle. It was designed to be accurate for the use that it was intended for, for hunting, which is typically accomplished with a shot or two within standard hunting ranges. Nobody ever expected the Model 99 to shoot small five shot groups. The forend was attached to and touched the barrel, causing vibration interference. I owned a very accurate Model 99 in caliber 300 Savage with a splinter forend, made in 1939, and it reliably shot sub-MOA for an entire magazine, provided that I rested the rear of the forend on the bag, and not the checkered part of the forend. Resting the forend on the bag caused stock to barrel interference and reduced accuracy after three shots.
@@GunBlue490 Excellent. Thanks for confirming my hunch from decades ago. I was never in a position back then to confirm my hunch though. I had a solid foudation in shooting sports but not much knowledge of how or why firearms performed well or not. It was a very reliable hunting rifle. I filled many tags with that rifle because I was certain those 1st shots were dead-on. It also helped make me a better shot because I knew I only had 1 or 2 shots to get the job done. Thanks again!
Greatly appreciate the wisdom that you are pouring out on us. I have to say that after reducing the about of gun oil that I was using on my firearms per your recommendation they are much easier to clean. Would love to get your insight on how much weight can you add to your rifle in regards to an optics and mount since a lot of the better scopes peak out at around 30 ounces. How much is too much weight based off the size and weight of the rifle? This would make for a good video.
Little as possible! I did an entire series on selecting scopes. I also did a video regarding rifle weight. Keep it light. Click the video tab and look back a year or so.
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This guy learned everything without the internet. Truely amazing how much knowledge he has.
Absolutely the one guy I continue to watch and listen to in the reloading and firearms space. No fluff, no gimmick, no sponsorships that I can discern. Just honest knowledge transfer. Sir, I continue to appreciate your honest assessments of what is needed to produce quality. Thanks.
I do not consider myself to be entirely ignorant in these matters, yet every video of yours that I watch... I feel I am a student at the feet of a master. Even when you say something that I already understand, I find myself learning something. Thank you.
Happy to help!
I agree. I’ve been shooting for 50 years and learn something every video of his I watch and usually several things.
Amazing man, listening to him saves you hours of experimentation on the range. He is like the grandfather I never had. And I am saying this with utmost respect. Thank you sir.
I once glassed a receiver on a Sako long action (7mag) for a friend. Later, when I saw him, he said, "you ruined my rifle." So, I took his rifle and went to the range. I then shot a 3/4" 5 shot group at 100 yds. I gave him the rifle back along with my target. He just didn't know how to shoot his rifle. Worked fine for me!
You might want him to shot and you sight the rifle in for as many of us shoot differently.
Thank you Sir .. shooting for over 40 years, but every time I see one of your videos I learn something new
Learned more in one session than years at the range.
I've been shooting since I was 5. I'm 42 now. You sir make me realize that I still have alot to learn. 1 day on the range with you would be a honor.
You should write a book containing your information and wisdom. I'd love to have an 1st edition, leather bound and guilded, for my Sons. We're all indebted to you. Thank you!
I'd love to buy one also. Great idea 😊
God bless this encyclopedia of knowledge! Sir , your number 1 in my book
I hear that. This guy is a pleasure to watch and listen to. He was the guy who helped get me started in reloading and get concepts down and also which books to get. He recommended the Lee manual 2nd edition and that's how I started
@@vdog4799 What a great story. I bought the Lee reload manual.
PROFESSOR! I don’t hand load, but I sure love listening!!! Loved the talk on mirage, too!
This man has a good understanding of wave propagation, among many other things 👌
No worries get out when you can I enjoy you sitting and dropping your wonderful knowledge with us I'm ready for Bible study with you if you want to god bless you my friend
Thank you so much for putting you knowledge and wisdom into these videos. What a legacy! I played over and over and rewrote the part where you talk about working up a load based on 10 percent of case capacity. Fantastic method!
Awesome information. Just what I was looking for . Seems like my issue was the wind. This time! 7MM Rem Express sighted in at 150 yards. Good groups at 75, 100 and 150 yards with 150 grain bullets and IMR 4350 powder, just back and forth accross the target about 2 inches.
I love that you mention loose sights first; I've seen this more often than anyone might think. The only other thing I would mention is some very new shooters when they are first introduced to aperture sights will sometimes look over the rear sight and try to line up only the front sight.
Excellent help. Thanks
Great explanation of target analysis. I’m always amazed at how many shooters have never been taught to analyze their targets. This was a great tutorial for reading your targets. Always glad to see another “how to” post!
Take care and good luck with the upcoming hunting season!
Always great to listen to the wisdom of your generation, youre probably a good 20 years younger than my Grandpa would be if he were still around, he was a fountain of knowledge in the world of Cinema projection and film. He was an outstanding character who was in the RAF in the 40s.
I'd love to sit and be able to pick his brain today but sadly cannot as he left us in 2012.
I really appreciate your videos and knowledge because i always learn small details even when I think I know the full story, people like you sir are diamonds, keep up the good work and wishing you good health. 👍
From Sunny England 🏴
I've been hunting and shooting 15 years plus, and this video just taught me so much. Thanks
This man is the perfect example of what is known as wealth transfer. He transfers his vast experiance and understanding of a complex topic in a very humble and simple way.
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for this gentleman......
Sir your knowledge on fire arms is priceless . Been watching your vids for years and you have made me a better shooter, hands down. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise
I'm 64, been shooting more than 50 years. I feel like a novice.
The body of knowledge contained in these videos is priceless.
Very informative! I had a similar “wind” group last time out shooting. My brother told me that was my error. Now I know the truth! Thank you.
I have been searching for this information. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge.
I really appreciate your tutorials. I learn so much. Thank you. As an "Owner", er slave, to five beagles (pound rescues) I wish Benny the best. We wish him well.
Good stuff.
Lovely training, sir! I have been coaching Marines and Soldiers for 30 years in basic marksmanship and continue to learn. Last weekend my wife and I were out working on breath control and trigger control based on how her targets were reading to me. Keep up the great content!
Consider myself quite knowledgable about guns, but I always learn when I listen to you. Thank you for your knowledge and sharing.
Super informative. Thank you for sharing your knowledge sir.
I find that 336 and 94 carbines tend to string the shots vertically as the barrel gets hot due to proximity to the barrel bands. I limit my shots to 3 then let it cool off
That's their nature. As a deer rifle, they have served very well for longer than any bolt action. I only load three in mine. If one of the first two shots didn't connect, that's about the last shots any intelligent deer will give you. 😂
Great information. Thank you so much!
Good to see new videos .Every morning I get to work about 1hr early and drink coffee eat and check for new videos,today I see 2 from gunblue . Made my day
Can I adopt you as my grandfather? I love watching your videos, you vast no bs knowledge of firearms and reloading is amazing. I bet it’s fun to just hang out you and do whatever activity you have planned for the day. Great work keep the vids coming.
Aloha! You good sir, never fail in putting out a wealth of good information! I am grateful for all the hard work you put into producing such great and USEFUL videos. Thank You 🤙🏽
So well explained
Thank you sir for your wealth of knowledge and experience. Ive learned a lot from this video.
Aha, a rifle companion to go with your precision pistol video series. I’m teetering on the edge of going from sharpshooter to expert in bullseye pistol thanks to that series. I’m sure this video will provide similar benefits.
That's terrific! Good shooting!
Thank you for all your video's. I don't get out nearly as much as I'd like but I was out shooting my hand loads. I learned how to reload by watching your videos and how much I enjoy reloading got me into fly tying. So in short I have no money and I have a hand full of bullets and fishing hooks but it's certainly been a blessing in my life. God bless you!
Another very informative video! I've handloaded for years for different cartridges and have always worked loads up in half grain increments. It makes total sense like you said to move the decimal point back two for whatever powder capacity case you're loading for! Thanks for the good advice.
Love your videos.
Enjoy learning from you.
Thank you Sir
Yes you are correct about free floating and bedding.
I have an 40 model 700 in 7mag.
I used to shoot around 1 1/4 inch groups.
After I had it free floated and aluminum plier block bedded.
I now shoot clover leafs 3/7 inch groups.
Also put on a high quality scope.
Really great video well done.
Encyclopedic as always. Thank you sir
Love the content and the information. Thank you for your time.
As usual a excellent vid. Thank you very much!!
I totally support everything this man says. Had a beautiful Remington 700 sided in perfectly in a 3006. In dry weather conditions. Took it 100 miles west up into the mountains and days of rain occurred and the first time in my life I totally nastily got shot a deer and this is even after testing the rifle as soon as I arrived. I did not take a shot for two days But the moisture that occurred in the stock moved the bullet almost 10 inches to the right. That was the last wooden stock rifle I have owned that I have seriously used for hunting I go plastic yes you heard it plastic stock and I get no group change no matter the weather is much as I hate plastic I think they have kinder terms for plastic nowadays like polymer or GRP (glass reinforced plastic). And yes I have several absolutely stunningly beautiful wooden stocked rifles. But if it's due or die I'm going with "plastic". Some of you will never understand until you take your beautiful wooden rifle that's probably even more beautiful than mine into the nastiest environments on earth and then wonder why you can't hit anything. Yes yes yes supposedly they are sealed by varnishes, but those move and temperature changes. It's crazy as it sounds if you're hunting in crazy environments keep your gun protected with a good oil and leave it outside of your tent at night covered by something that will allow the outside temperature to match the temperature of the gun. if you're shooting within reasonable hunting ranges like one or 200 yards it doesn't make any difference. But if you're one that are not a hunter but rather just a shooter, other words and incompetent Hunter and want to shoot something along ways off just for pride, yeah you need to watch the temperature of your rifle with the outside temperature you are the 2%.
I’m with you boss. Time is what it takes. Hurry up range trips may be poor a condition to shoot in. Almost as relative as weather, breathing, powder or bullet selection.
Incredibly informative
Thank you
great content i really like your smith wesson revolver videos thank you
Looks like we can expect rain all week into next week as Lee moves up the east coast..you.may get some flooding ,here on eastern Long Island might get some too. Ugh...I need to hit the range
Great vid.
Your explanation on merage is great.. that's without a suppressor on it, which can induce more optical illusions between the shooter and the target. Thank you again.
I learned to shoot when I was 9 years old. Bought my 1st AR-15 in 7.62 last month August 2023. Put my 50 year old 3-9 scope on it and fired 3 times. With my spotter scope - I only saw one hit. I got pretty mad until I pulled the target. Then I read the rifle's manual: Free "Floating Heavy Barrel". Desert Storm Vet.
Good shooting! Thank you for your service. God bless. Is your rifle a 5.56 AR-15 or a 7.62 AR-10?
@@GunBlue490 barrel and bolt are 7.62 x 39. Everything else is AR-15.
@@lindafoxwood78you’ve got an AR-10 if you’re shooting 308s. Good luck with it!
@@66smithra308 is 7.62 x 51 . 7.62x39 is an intermediate cartridge commonly used in the sks and AK 47 / AKM. 7.62x39 is now used in some AR15's, by milling the bolt face to accommodate the larger diameter of the 7.62x39 round along with running a 30 caliber barrel.
@@lindafoxwood78Sounds great! Thanks for watching.
19:56 "two possibilities for this (vertical stringing)" I know a third. I could not eliminate the vertical stringing of my rifle. Every load had the same result. Varying but decent horizontal spread, some (unacceptable) degree of vertical separation. Turned out to be a bad vertical control on my scope, not a loose mount, bad internals.
Great Show.
I'd love the have this kind fellow come shot with me and get my hand loads for my 30-06 dialed in, I'm riding the struggle bus hard trying to get this thing tuned in before deer season, lol.
I understand your pain. It does take a lot of time. But if nothing else you can always fall back on the Remington, 180 grain soft point core lock. They shoot good in all my 30-06. The first two shots are always together and the third shot drops a little bit because of barrel heat. Are usually site. Mine is an inch and three-quarter high at 100 and that put speed dead on at 200. The 180 grain is more accurate and those that are on the game than the 150s which I have had problems coming apart on me.
@timdaniels7827 I've tried some 180 grain sst bullets, they for me are actually worse, larger group size around 3 to 4 inches at 100 yards, the 165 grain interloks flat base or boat tail from hornady do decent one weekend then the next groups fail apart. More than likely I'm just getting old, lol. But I did find out I was using load data from hogden web site and it seemed odd to me for 180 grain bullet it was calling for loads that my lyman manual for imr 4350 was saying was for the 165 grain bullets. I'm using h4350 and the lyman manual doesn't show that powder, but the imr is close in amounts used. So I bought the Hornaday online manual and it shows h4350 and its on target with the lyman imr 4350 loads, give or take a tenth on starting and max loads. Lucky me I stopped when looking at hogdon and looked at others.
Ah, big smile on my face to see this new vid pop up on my feed:)
Would start each time with a clean barrel or would you go through the whole test without cleaning? Would you clean before you start again or leave fouled? Very informative! This video has taught me a lot! Best I’ve seen so far! Thanks you so much!
First let me start by saying thank you Gunblue!!!! I have asked quite a few people and channels how to determine the increments in each case now I know thanks
Iike I always say your not to old to learn, THANK YOU
very helpful information
Thank you for your great videos and passing on your knowledge. All have been most helpfull and informative. Are you planning on doing a video on moderator ( suppressor) maintenance?
I own a 308 that was the local gunsmiths deer rifle,. It is very accurate , I am honored to own it
★ Very interesting video! Much appreciated.
Great info and well laid out. Appreciate all you do here esp the vids on the M14/M1A and Mini14. Many thanks!
Whenever I'm told "they just don't make rifles like they used to" I reply "isn't that great!
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Winchester 70 from Japan is not to sneeze about they are good damn rifles I love have the 308win in the S.S. Barrel
The weatherby vanguard and browning xbolt rifles comming outa Japan are awesome rifles. I'd put my vanguard up against any of them fancy 7000$ rifles. Bet I spank that ass
They don’t make them like they used to. That is a fact! Any new production budget rifles aren’t nearly as good as many older 60’s, 70’s, 80’s production rifles. To much cost cutting to keep prices low and competitive. To get the older budget quality you have to pay a premium price nowadays.
@@raymondjohnson6496 any rifles and shotguns coming out of Japan have very tight tolerances. SKB has been making Weatherby shotguns for decades. Miroku is an amazing company making Browning rifles and shotguns with FN still working with Browning in Portugal, Winchester rifles and O/U shotguns, not sure about the semiauto shotguns.
Weatherby Vanguards are Howa rifles rebranded. Off the top of my head I can remember that Howas were sold as the S&W 1500 bolt action rifle as well as under the Mossberg 1500 name.
Google is your friend here as I’m relying strictly on memory.
All 3 Browning A-Bolt rifles have been tack driving laser beams! Love the B.O.S.S. System on both Browning and Winchester rifles.
Thank you for sharing you wisdom.
I bedded my old Browning Belgian made Mauser action Safari Model chambered in .30-06. Sears Roebuck sold similar Belgian made Mauser action rifles in .30-06 and in .270. Definitely the best guns that Sears ever sold. Browning's guns were definitely a large step up from Sears, but any of those can be bedded, balanced, tuned, accurized and made into wonderful bolt rifles. The balance is lots better on the Browning, but a little lead hidden here and there, and it's balanced. Most guns sold by Sears or Wards after WWII were made by Savage, Stevens, H&R or Iver Johnson.
Very informative! Thank you, Sir!
Idk Mr. Gunblue, I got a m95 chelian mauser that patterns 2' groups at 80ish yards with full power loads 😂
Dear sir, given your extensive S&W knowledge, could you do a video on the “Carbonia Blue” and the other processes that followed ?
Thank you.
Very nice.
Very interesting and I learned alot. The target at just over the 25 minute mark with the good group and one flyer were dad's groups when he sighted in his rifle before his November deer hunt.
Dad's pet load for his Winchester Model 88 was Nosler Partition 200g.
He told me he never shot enough to hand load!
I found it really interesting that you can find the limitations of your rifle by looking at the group!
Very helpful!
Great tips, thanks. Hi to Benny.
This is excellent information, and had I known it years ago I could have saved a lot of time and ammo ;) I've chased "bad accuracy" blaming loads, when it was bedding, or blaming the rifle when it was me... LOL
I'm thinking of making a chart, showing these groups and what issue they expose, and taking it to the range to compare with targets. Too much for me to remember, so a cheat sheet of sorts ;)
It's so important to listen to your target, and your explanation was concise and complete. Thank you for making time to pass on your knowledge to others. Hopefully the wind will settle down after Hurricaine Lee so you can enjoy some shooting. I was going to test out some 30-06 loads in my 03a3 today, but the gusts would preclude any useful results.
Another great video bud! I can't tell you how many times I've had arguments about this and a lot of younger tell me I'm wrong for saying this stuff! And then they wonder why I out shoot them. I'm an older guy like you and have been shooting for decades. All the guys I shoot with have learned this and if you read articles about mounting scopes and dialing them in say stop cranking things down!!
The MR-31 target is ideal for shooter/target analysis, call/shot corollary and grouping by size, shape, and placement. The author here understands all of this. He is highly credentialed to profess on this and other gun topics.
Talk to us about the placement of those scope rings. My dad has run into issues with a similar setup trying to get good eye relief yet managing the options of ring placement, notably at the extreme ends of the optic tube.
Great video learned a thanks Ray
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for the good information.
I bought an 8rd flush mount colt stamped magazine every time I have used it i get a stove pipe on the last couple rounds. I don't have that problem with my factory magazines or my Wilson Combat 8 round magazines. That is my vast experience! Could you tell me if you have had good experience with this 8 round magazine or if I should just stick with my Wilson Combat 8 round magazines. I like the 7 round magazine looks better, but like the idea of carrying 8 in the magazine with number 9 in the chamber and the smaller magazine.
I’ve sighted in probably 3 hundred rifles for guys at gun clubs, all on lead sled , never any issues? After sighting them in, I always had owners shoot their way and in most cases small adjustments were in order to fit the owner’s, style of shooting? Plus all my own rifles
Lead sled is a very loose term. A few pounds of lead is no different than a large man resisting recoil. However, adding significant weight will indeed increase dead resistance and cause stock damage. One cannot simply deny recoil without turning the recoil into a battering ram.
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Climbing shots are also typical for combination guns like drillings and over-under doubles in which the barrels are soldered together. It happens especially after multiple follow-up shots when the barrel cannot expand in all directions whilst heating up. For these guns, It is recommended to wait longer periods of time between shots when sighting them in, often up to 20 minutes.
Have you ever had trouble with a synthetic stock flexing and touching the barrel causing issues? I have Ruger American predator that If I use my sling to anchor the rifle it shoots all over the place. I'm contemplating a Boyd's Spike camp stock or just trading the rifle in. It's an accurate rifle off the rest but load testing is the only time that I use a rest.
Yes, that can be an issue. My wife's .243 Ruger American is exceptionally accurate, at 1/3 MOA, but the stock is indeed very flexible and will collide with the barrel if care is not taken. That's not an issue for the sort of hunting most folks call them for, but tight slinging will require a more rigid stock.
Why do some manufacturers have the barrel pushed against the stock? My remington cdl sf 700 for example does not have free floted barrel. Is it to cut cost? After a couple of shots my groups get worse. I guess it is due to the barrel heats up and push harder to the stock.
I think #4 , 2 good, 1 bad, can also be attributed to attention, and breath control.
As for "mirage-ay" I always remember the bugs bunny pronunciation.
I think the last one might be the result of a bear, or bigfoot attack adrenaline dump.
Blessings on your family. Thanks. Wayne
One thing that has helped me is using the correct target for the reticle in your optic. If you have crosshairs, use a contrasting colored target with right angles for perfect alignment. If you have a dot/round reticle, use a target with a round bullseye that matches the size of your reticle at a given range.
Question: In finding a good group. How often should you clean your barrel?
This is an issue that receives lots of attention from bench rest shooters. In my personal experience, I've never observed a change in accuracy.
My late friend never, ever cleaned his Husqvarna .270 Winchester in 35 years and it always shot nickel sized groups. In his youth, he learned to shoot and load ammo with Ned Roberts (.257 Roberts), and taught me the finer aspects of shooting and handloading. He simply passed a lightly oiled patch through after the end of the day.
I've fired as many as 80 rounds of 22-250 without cleaning with no loss of accuracy. I've had numerous extended shooting sessions with other calibers with no accuracy loss whatsoever. Serious fouling does occur with ultra high velocity .17 caliber bores after fewer than 20 rounds, but my friend's ultra-high velocity .204 Ruger continues to shoot the same pinhole groups after 100 rounds. Every shot carries away the fouling from the previous shot. I believe that most guns will shoot accurately without ever cleaning, though I don't recommend it, any more than I'd recommend not brushing your teeth.
I always follow a strict rule of thumb and clean after every shooting session, followed by a light oiled patch, because carbon invites moisture and corrosion. My conclusion is that many bench rest shooters are simply OCD and clean their guns all the time during matches because they do everything fastidiously, not necessarily because they need to. 🙂
@@GunBlue490well said! Being a gun collector for over 6 decades I find your advise to be true and right on for most hunters! My 2 Husqvarna shoot 1 MOA and I only oil patch after a few carbon patches for the season! Love you giving advise to the up and coming hunters and shooters who need as much good advise as possible to make them aware of what’s going on with there rifle as well as themselves!
Another great educational video. Question for GunBlue490 on mirage. Can you avoid it and if so how? Not talking about barrel hear mirage. Atmospheric mirage, sir.
Neither can be avoided. Great marksmanship requires the ability to read it.
@@GunBlue490 thanks for responding. I have access to crop lands with various slopes and flats to chose from. I find that if I’m laying prone, even in the winter months shooting at a target level down field I get mirage. When laying prone, shooting across a field with a dip/valley between me and the target. The heat from the ground dissipates enough that it does not interfere with my target. If you can shoot high enough from ground level you don’t get the mirage effect is what I find. I use this method strictly for load development and proving the capabilities of a rifle not proving my ability as a marksman.
Your first target reminds me of a situation I had, but it wasn't bad sights. I had a brno zkk 600 in 270win which I took to the range and it was a consistent one MOA performer. At a later date I removed the stock to wipe over and lightly oil the metalwork as I'd had it out hunting in the rain. I tightened it back up to 45 inch pounds with a torque wrench and headed of to the range again. Couldn't barely hit the target and was chasing shots everywhere. After some googling I read the zkk needs 65 inch lb. I couldn't believe the difference it made, back to 1 moa
I used to own a Savage 99C in 243 Win with a Weaver 3-9 X 40 on it.
The 1st 2 shots were very close, sometimes in the same hole. Every shot after that creaped further away. By the 5th shot, it was no longer even on the paper (3' X 3'). After the barrel cooled, the same pattern repeated itself, 1st 2 shots were close then creaping away.
I was shooting from a bench on calm days. I was not a novice shooter by anybody's opinion.
I shot factory loads back then. I tested several different manufacturers but the results were very similar.
I had checked every screw, making sure they were properly tightened/torqued.
Any guess as to what might have been happening with it?
I sold that rifle decades ago. But I thought it might make for interesting discussion.
Sure. You're describing exactly what I detailed regarding barrel interference. The Model 99 was a very accurate rifle. It was designed to be accurate for the use that it was intended for, for hunting, which is typically accomplished with a shot or two within standard hunting ranges. Nobody ever expected the Model 99 to shoot small five shot groups. The forend was attached to and touched the barrel, causing vibration interference. I owned a very accurate Model 99 in caliber 300 Savage with a splinter forend, made in 1939, and it reliably shot sub-MOA for an entire magazine, provided that I rested the rear of the forend on the bag, and not the checkered part of the forend. Resting the forend on the bag caused stock to barrel interference and reduced accuracy after three shots.
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Excellent. Thanks for confirming my hunch from decades ago. I was never in a position back then to confirm my hunch though. I had a solid foudation in shooting sports but not much knowledge of how or why firearms performed well or not.
It was a very reliable hunting rifle. I filled many tags with that rifle because I was certain those 1st shots were dead-on. It also helped make me a better shot because I knew I only had 1 or 2 shots to get the job done.
Thanks again!
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Thanks for the info!
Thank you sir
Greatly appreciate the wisdom that you are pouring out on us. I have to say that after reducing the about of gun oil that I was using on my firearms per your recommendation they are much easier to clean. Would love to get your insight on how much weight can you add to your rifle in regards to an optics and mount since a lot of the better scopes peak out at around 30 ounces. How much is too much weight based off the size and weight of the rifle? This would make for a good video.
Little as possible! I did an entire series on selecting scopes. I also did a video regarding rifle weight. Keep it light. Click the video tab and look back a year or so.
@@GunBlue490 Thanks for the tip!