The Controversy Of Constantine's Conversion To Christianity | Secrets Of Christianity | Real History
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2023
- History tells us that the Roman Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity in the 4th century. But did Christianity conquer Rome or did pagan Rome conquer Christianity?
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“Constantine was a fox and we live in a world full of snakes” A message given to me by the One True God ❤
They say he got baptized in his deathbed. Does that count or it is too late for him?
@@Animalsandwildlife.7527 it's not for me to judge. I had not heard that before. His mother appeared to be a true Believer, and prayed for him continuously. May peace be upon them both.
@@polarisjustdothework2258 He was a typical politician. That what politicians do best.
@@Animalsandwildlife.7527 Amen!!
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God works mightily ❤ His prophecies are true and unfolding. Jesus is Truth. He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man comes to the Father except through Him.
Says who? Written by men, for starters.
Beware the words of men and false prophets after who was claimed Jesus.
What prophecies? Whatever was written prior to Constantine was removed from history so how could anybody be informed about God from anything other than the old testament. And that old testament God wasn't too cool
I enjoyed it. Nice work.
History is written by the winner.
It is not impossible that Constantine rewrote the Holy Bible based on his political desires & needs.
Umm, I think it's fairly obvious
Except that a Bible did not exist till 45 years after he died. So, it seems that it is actually completely impossible.
Constantine leaned unitarian why would he let the trinity win?
I do deliverance for people and i also do extreme ancient research that depicts everything today..... this was a great video thank you ! I subscribed to your channel !
It was not the cross. It was the chi rho.
They've also got wrong Saturnalia that ends in the 23rd december. This thing is rigged as hell.
I love churros
Churros??
If you believe Satanist Jews
The followers of Yeshua kept the Sabbath and God's commands. They did what Yeshua taught. " worship GOD and serve HIM only- Matt. 4:10
Would that include Jesus as deity?
Where is “Yeshua” in the Bible?
History is a powerful force.... True history even moreso...
Seek truth - do not trust in man.
Not only did he (constitine) change the church to appease his army and people, he also incorporated the sun, moon, stars into our “calendar”, he incorporated Middle East, Asian religious beliefs, like the incense burned, bell ringing and made the statues that some churches. His most grievous sins were that he changed the Bible sabbath into sunday keeping to make all his people happy. He changed the 10 commandments also to expel the real sabbath and worship the idols of his new found church. U can ask any priest or bishop and they tell u it is so. The church of rome thought to change Gods Holy Day and to make the peoples bow to the images/ idols of this new found church. They also made a catholic bible…….as a history buff and raised in the catholic church, when I found these and other stuff that the church had messed with, I left the church of rome and became a “ Sabbath “ keeper!………May God Bless U as u learn and grow……🙏🏾👵🏼🧐✌🏾😮👌🏽
Amen..
Been saying this bs since Constantine time
The background music is annoying.
So it wasn’t Jesus’s message of peace and love that was the converting force, it was the symbol of the cross?
That was the converting force specially to how early Christianity established itself amongst the poor and downtrodden but also that Christianity actively sought out converts and inspired faith which fueled said missions from the city of the Roman empire to the mountains of Armenia.
Christianity profoundly became a historic force since it completely disregarded economic and political incentives to convert kingdoms and tribes during it's early centuries and after the fall of the Western Empire.
Constantine was a politician and a very astute one.Christianity was a means to an end.
Some of Simcha's ideas are wacky and some seem obvious as he said, hiding in plain sight.
Simca you have done good to uncover Constantine 's efforts for Christianity. The role Jews played to twist the truth of one God and Jesus taking promise from his disciples that they will propagate subordination to one God, clarification of Mary as a true worshipping woman and unfair death to Jesus, was cleverly shown. Constantine just tried to depict that he would punish the Jews and Roman, by making Apollo. He could not imagine believing in one God that know one can see. Making Christianity a bundle of tales is Jews master mind.
Constantine’s mother was a Christian long before he converted so I think she may have had a teeny bit to do with it?
Yes that's why in Rome they hide the truth in valts
Vikings did the same thing in France. And then conquered England in 1066. And some people think religion isn’t used for power 😅
Money maybe?
Considering Constantine outlawed many essential Christian practices…
After his conversion?
@@kuyab9122 he was never a genuine follower of the Messiah Christ. Actions matter, not words or folklore.
@robertbialozynski6334
I think in reading his many accounts that Constantine genuinely believed in JC but is ultimately a horrible person,
He did try to make centralized which during the time Christianity was scattered and was having it's early shisms with arianism and Donatism.
Considering the early church fathers believe in what most of the Catholic Church believes today it's safe to say Constantine did not create the Catholic Church however constant is not recognized as a saint
Cross was pagan symbol Egyptian Greek Slavic
One Slavs have yet appeared in Europe.
The Cross is pretty obvious since you know the "Crucifixion of Jesus Christ"
The Chinro is a acronym written in Koine Greek taking the first letters of Jesus Christ, The Bible (The New Testament) itself was originally in Koine Greek.
Egyptian?, Sure bro Nubia and Ethiopia next door were the first christian Kingdoms
No shit. The Romans were known for crucifying people. Again, Romans.
He had a lot of guts, Constantine made Christianity imperial.he did the hardest thing, keeping everybody happy!
He might’ve been a psychopath because they are able to take big risks without flinching. A lot of CEO’s are psychopaths, they are often very successful. He reminds me of Joseph Smith.
I haven’t watched this yet, but if the researcher is Simka, (yeah right, he is so unbiased) we already know what his findings are going to be --/ guaranteed.
What emerges out of this pseudo conversion of Constantine is a faith that ultimately is far removed from the faith taught by the Lord Jesus and His inspired apostles in the New Covenant writings. New Covenant Christianity knows nothing of a Christian society endorsed and protected by a secular ruler or government. Nor does anyone who comes to true faith in Jesus by a vision or a dream. Romans 10:10-17. Constantine may have seen a vision or had a dream, but that is the work of Satan not God.
2 Thessalonians 2:8-14. Revelation 13:16; 16:13.
Jesus said that His Kingdom is not of this world. He did not send his apostles and His disciples into the world to build a Christian civilization or particular nation states! Emphatically not.
I've been trying to tell otters about this. He centered himself, which the elites no doubt caught onto and have continued to bastardize Christianity for themselves. Freaking Tax exemption since Ancient times blows my mind. It shows how intentional it's all been. Christianity doesn't need to be destroyed. It needs to be saved.
"He did not send his apostles and His disciples into the world to build a Christian civilization or particular nation states! Emphatically not."
Ever heard of The Great Commission?
"Therefore go and make disciples of all NATIONS, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," (Matthew 28:19, NIV)
@kuyab9122 That is exactly what I was saying. My Kingdom is NOT of this world. The great commission is about making disciples out from all nations etc. Baptizing THEM etc.... The Greek is quite clear about baptizing only disciples into the evangelical faith. We agree. Revelation 5:9,10 complements Matthew 28:18-20.
You say no one comes to faith by a vision or a dream???????, what about Paul's vision on the road to Damascus. No wonder there is so confusion in Christianity
@jamesrenfroe9563 Paul was directly spoken to by the Lord himself if you hadn't read the passage properly. It was not a vision. The book of Acts provides not a single example of anyone being saved in this manner. Not one! Paul the apostle to the Romans 10:14-17.
This is story is similar to Henry 8th and Thomas Cromwell
Constantine's lies were on steroids 😫😅
Is this the same narrator as the other 2hr documentary?
When the Emperor Constantine declared himself to be the Summus Pontifex, what followed was more than ten centuries of Dark Ages, during which time people who professed Christ rather than Mary or the Popes, people who denied transubstantiation, were fed to lions or burned at the stake.
During the Dark Ages, for a common person to read the Bible was a sin for which there was no forgiveness; and so the people were spoon-fed from the papist pulpit.
The Bible was said to exist only in the Latin text and the common and largely illiterate people could learn the stories that were in the Bible from paintings and stained glass windows.
Those who first made the Bible available in the language of the people were killed
for their trouble; but when Martin Luther quoted Paul, of all people, the Protestant Reformation began.
The gospel that saves is that Christ accomplished everything needed to save you from sin and death when he died on the cross for sins. The cross took your sin problem out of the way already, and through his resurrection you can have free righteousness on Christ’s behalf through faith (2 Cor 5:21, Rom 4:24-25; Rom 5:1). Do you believe this? Do you trust this gospel?
By trusting his death and resurrection for your salvation and adding no other works or church traditions you are sealed with the Holy Ghost (Eph 1:13, Rom 4:5). This latter “no works” disclaimer is necessary for all those who would make God’s grace powerless to save by adding any necessary work to Christ’s finished work (e.g. baptism, confessions, prayers, experiences, etc.)
Amen
Congratulations if you believe this wholeheartedly, you’ve officially made Christ a liar by saying that the gates of hell overcame his Church. It’s genuinely incredible to me that people who profess faith in Christ have so little faith in God’s power that he couldn’t deliver Rome into the hands of the Christian Faith.
The whole story of how Rome became Christian even has parallels to the Exodus of the Israelites, but with a Christian twist. The chosen people (in this case it’s the apostles and early church) flee from the oppression of the current authorities (in the OT it was Egypt, in the NT it’s Israel) into foreign, pagan lands where they overcome the native religions and peoples before establishing a kingdom dedicated to God. The big difference is that while Israel had authority to wipe out the Canaanites, the early Christians had to follow the example of Christ’s sacrifice and wait patiently for God’s deliverance. Which eventually came after 300 some odd years of collective suffering, when the leader of the land gave his empire over to God. You can’t look at that story and not see the guiding hand of the Lord behind it.
This propaganda is a genuine blight on Christendom and in its ravenous hatred of Catholicism, does nothing but bring the entire validity of the Christian Faith into question by imply God is so impotent and pathetic that a mere human conquer could successfully silence his Church for over a millennium. While also simultaneously exalting those who deliver it by claiming that they just so happen to be special enough to know “the real truth of history”.
Imperial roman triumphal arches were painted. So the soldiers in the carving would have had crosses painted on which was lost to time, not carved in.
This is very interesting!
You have to watch an exorcism of a woman who is part Italian. In the interrogation the chief spirit says his name is Julius Caesar, and on more interrogation confesses that behind Julius C is this spirit whose name is the spirit of death. Then it says that the baptism of this woman was done to him, to the spirit of death. In other words, the baptism of this woman was not to God or Jesus but dedicated to this evil spirit called death. The religious man had to cancel the baptism to the spirit of death in order for the woman to be free of the torment. The other piece of info is that the demon said that he still rule Rome, and it made the feast showing as Julius C would do.
If this baptism was done to this spirit, the rest of baptisms also. It just happened that it was constrained to talk. Also the spirit was establishing the grounds for his legal right to stay inside the woman.
I conclude with the theme of your video, that the paganism was just covered up with symbols of ….
Or better said all the symbols of the paganism were transferred into the Christian religion because Jesus had no symbols at all. No images, no saints, nothing.
He was baptized when he was 30 y. o.
So, no baby baptisms…
Where's the part about ancient aliens?
The legitimacy of ones conversion is determined by the reason of conversion.
Why you converted will tell you if your conversion is real or false
Jesus: Be peaceful, do not raise your sword, turn the other cheek, treat others as you wish to be treated
Also Jesus: In my name, conquer
Eusebius also added John 6:4 which added 2 years to the Messiah's ministry, which was about a years. Even Eusebius said that is was about a year.
Maybe they painted crosses on shields
Even devil quotes scriptures choose wisely what you serve.
It was a political decision, he blended pagan beliefs and Christianity. Never about any repentance or belief .
Christianity has a lot of pagan elements in it.
@@ericponce8740 Catholicism is a represent of Christianity
Also explains Trump and Biden they are both playing the religious card
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Constantine the Great is one of the most important people in Christianity
Jesus is the Lord!
Big thing with Jesus no more needs to shed blood Jesus powerful blood finished the offer of blood...!
But humanity shed blood in the name of Jesus huh!?
Jesus is the Lord!
I doubt like the Word of God was changed... Constantine waited until he was near death to be baptized... So then he wouldn't live very long to obey the word of God... Everyone knew without the shedding of blood there was no forgiveness of sin's! God slew animal to cover Adam and Eve sin! After Jesus sacrifice and resurrection no need to shed blood...! Amen!
Mitra in Sanskrit is Sun God. So Mitras must have been of Indo Aryan origin.
Hindu Gods and Iranian Gods and even Norse paganism Gods are all the same with a different name. The major difference is that Hindus believe the group starting with "D" are good and the one with "A" are bad. Devas are good, Asuras are bad. Persians and Norse believe it the other way around. For Persians (Parsi) Ahuras are good, Daevas are bad. In Norse, Aesirs are good and Vanir (V is a variation of D as the dialect diverged) are bad.
The theory is that all these religions eminated from Central Asian Steppes and depending on which direction waves of migration went the religion then in isolation evolved. The mother of these religions belonging to the Scythians, a nomadic Indo-European Aryan peoples.
Interesting to note that English which is the grandchild of the old Germanic (Norse) dialects also uses the same alphabets in which "A"ngels are good "D"emons are bad.
You are going to an earlier phase. Mitra was a later Hindu God and came from India.
The theory that proto Aryan culture came out of India is a racist assumption which isn't backed by any evidence. The direction of such cultural diffusion could be from India outwards and that is as consistent with available evidence.
Earliest Hindu Gods are most similar with Iranian Gods and that's to be expected as both Indic and Iranian worlds shares borders and on occasions overlapped at the margins.
Iranian religion was a less sophisticated version of an aspect of Hindu religious system.
As such the most likely scenario is it was a Hindu backwater or Hindu hinterland..
This documentary is getting a lot of facts wrong and confused:
1. They often confuse Mithras and Sol Invictus. They are two different gods and have different cults.
2. The Mithras cult has all but ceased by the time of Constantine. It peaks in the early 3rd century and phases out by 300 AD.
3. The arch of Constantine was in all likelihood NOT comissioned by Constantine, but by the senate of Rome. The Senate was pagan at this time. It is no wonder there isn't any Christian symbology on the arch.
4. The arch features mainly reused elements from other triumphal archs. The large statues with Phrygian hats are from a Trajanic monument, and are Dacian prisoners. Not Mithras priests.
5. Flavius was a very wide spread standard first name in Roman society then. It was not a family name. Constantines first name was Flavius and this did by all means not signify any connection to the Flavian dynasty. The hypothesis is thus nonsense.
6. Eusebius was not Constantines ally. Eusebius was an Arian Christian. Those guys Constantine had branded heretics at the council of Nicaea. Eusebius was even condemned to exile by Constantine. He later got admitted back and happened to be present at Constantines death, which is why ironically, he had to baptise Constantine. There simply was no other choice. Eusebius liked Constantine apparently. The other way around however, we don't know...
7. Constantine had coins minted with him as personified Sol Invictus, well into his clearly Christian era, where he also had coins with Christograms minted in parallel. It's a slow conversion as was usual back then.
8. The Sol cult is younger than Christianity. Christmas in December was known to some Christian communities before the birthday of Sol was celebrated on the 25th December.
9. We simply don't know enough hard facts about Constantine to be able to make a comment about the sincerity or direction of his beliefs. Distorted and misinformed claims such as here don't bring us closer to the truth, they contribute to veiling it further.
By grossly simplifying and misinforming, they ended up distorting history more than brining any interesting new thoughts to the table.
Thanks for the effort and knowledge sharing. Great response. I also wondered why he went off on a Mithras tangent. I'm not sure ho much time he actually spends on research before doing his shows, but he could have at least mentioned Sol Invictus along with Apollo and Mithras.
What religion is the mentioned so close to Constantine?
Maybe like Josephus he was a Jewish slave or charismatic cunning scribe . Maybe not.
Cui bono other than Roman pagans?
A mixed bag for Christians verily, this Constantine.
I don't think tyrants and commoners change much.
Listen to Joseph Campbell and think about how often movies are a lot like old movies which are like old books which are like old myths.
They resonate so well that it introduces the future and current concepts so that they may be normalized incremetally.
Mohammad did something similar with his monied backers over a couple decades and they two were embracing the rising reality and the preferred future, sold radical but quite CON serv ative, maybe, IMHO.
A lot of humility and skepticism is rational but religion isnt rational except as intended by the victors over their vanquished.
Note The vicious name-calling by the Jews against Jesus but not his arguments.
Look at the slop sold as 💯 safe & effective since 20 / 20 by the double double crossers XX XX
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To be bound to money and god is quite a risky complex consequential enterprise.
It takes more than just the imperious but also the domestic indolent desperate hopeless and hopeful flock stuck between Iraq and hard places...
IMHO.
@@Madasin_Paine I am sorry, but your writing style is unintelligible for me. No hard feelings. I just can't follow your reasoning.
@@quartodecimani6908
Ineffable is like that no matter how much I work on my reading and writing skills.
The artist is this the most powerful and the most subversive amongst communication ways and means.
Work on your reading skills and comprehension.
@@Madasin_Paine I'd suggest if you want more success communicating with other humans here, you work on your writing style and start writing intelligible sentences that don't require a stetoscope into your mind to be understood.
The devil is testing the faiths of Christians with this video.
Only God knows and can judge if Constantine is a Christian.
Wait. Couldn’t they have broken off the crosses ?
maybe , maybe not .
Jesus was not an anti Roman rebel.
Even so, Constantine is dead. And God laughs in eternity.
And after death then there is judgment.
Hebrews 9:27 KJV
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Laughing through tears.
I think the moral of this episode is that every religion is man made.
It's puzzling how so many people will dedicate their entire life in belief of fantastical stories and deny tangible evidentiary proof that they can see with their own two eyes in evolution. 😶🌫️🤯
@@Aaron-cy7oo .......Evolution? LOL!!!
@@Aaron-cy7oocommon misconception that science and God can’t exist in the same conversation, or that the objective of science is to disprove God.
Roman empire was the last beast in daniel..
And this beast was destroyed by islamic kheliphet ..
The stone 🪨 destroyed the beast
Seems like devil made this man to make this video.
say better
BUT WHO MADE MADE JESUS A CHRISTIAN OR WAS THAT HIS BIRTH NAME🤔
Jesus is not Christian. He is the Christ. Christians follow Jesus - in the Book of Isaiah - before Christ is born, it is prophesied - ”For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.“ - Isaiah 9:6 NKJV
The biggest con....Christianity. How can one of the youngest religion alongside Islam be the one true religion, when the oldest known religion's are Hinduism, Judaism, and the good old Paganism. Putting the horse before the cart.
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Christianity spread is pretty clear even in secular eyes.
1) It actively sought to convert and as a historic force it had the attributes which disregarded economic and geographical incentives which enabled it to holdout in even isolated pockets, Remember Christianity even before Rome Converted were already the state religion of Armenia and Ethiopia while various Germanic Tribes had already converted.
2) Christianity offered more during the 3rd century crisis. It provided safety nets and Christianity emphasis on charity and repentance means that specifically target those in the lower caste of society
3) It's attractive to Women, Remember in the Ancient World wives were more of a property of the patriach. Christianity enforcement of monogamy and the agreement that the husband would provide and stay faithful gave it a significant edge, specially in Constantine case since his mother was a Christian.
4) Christianity is intellectual,
Not to the pretentious kind but the christianity actively studied itself and the world, that might be antithetical to the current image of Christianity but Christianity even today is the largest patron of arts and science. Again what I mean by intellectual is that Christianity and also Islam is that both developed to explain and investigate the nature of their faith which on the long term enabled doctrines to be codified and expand, Something which Hinduism struggled with during India's early independence and even today.
The biggest con is the sand cresent moon with huge gamecube in the middle of fungus infested marble floor. You know how their operandi works to join more members...
either convert or unlives.... or high taxes during the stealing of Constantinople by modern day bird sounding place found in further southeast of europe.
Hinduism is a joke religion hahaha, Upper class pagan caste religion, by the Judaism is tree to Christianity. In Judaism people worship Jesus
Najviše zla je katolička crkva učinila vekovima silnim inkvizicijama po celoj zemaljskoj kugli. Zadnjih 30 godina je optužuju za pedofiliju. Nema gde nije bila upletena u silne ratove. Kad bi se svi okrenuli svojim korenima i izučili šta su bili pre pokatoličavanja nestao bi katolicizam. Pravoslavna istočna je u učenju ostala ista a katolička zbog svojih interesa i bogaćenja deli se na luterance, protestante, evangeliste i druge grupe ili sekte.
The cross /stake is the supposed instrument of death. So if you died in a car. People will wear a car or a wrecked car necklace on there neck as in memory of you. You People need take another look .
Follower of the christ.
Source?
I second that testimony, seriously, sir Isaac newton turned down top job of deen of science of the Anglican church, because he wouldn’t convert to it. He said what we as Latter Days Saints have said all along, ‘’ the truth since Constitine has apostatized ‘’ hence a restoration. Constantine extorted Christian to get his fame although it wasn’t as bad as kaligula, Nero and others. Catholics are to be hailed for holding what little truth they knew till the Book of Mormon. Best wishes
Pagan
Are u daft. Clearly they became Christian because of Constantine
God is true. Constantine was truly great among men.
👁️👁️⚖️✝️🩸👑🍞💧🌡️😡🌪️🌋👂👀⏳,, No, constantine lied ! The old "if you can't beat them "join" them / the enemy of my enemy is my friend/hegelian dialect predictive programing mind games thesis antithesis synthesis
Jesus: Be peaceful, do not raise your sword, turn the other cheek, treat others as you wish to be treated
Also Jesus: In my name, conquer
Christ is not a person it is a state of consciousness and title adorned to those who achieve it. War in the name of Christ is not war in the name of Jesus.