Biblical debate on vegan ethics, and if animals have souls ? With Vegan Activist Veganika

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

Комментарии • 44

  • @Veganism_international
    @Veganism_international 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for a great conversation! I am so glad you keep an open mind that allows discussion even on difficult or controversial topics.

    • @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380
      @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380  3 года назад

      Thanks Nika and always glad to talk to you, as have upmost respect for you and always willing to speak to people who can have a friendly discussion. Sending blessings to you and yours

  • @roadtorecoverypodcast3463
    @roadtorecoverypodcast3463 3 года назад

    Great respectful discussion from you both. As the Mandalorian says “this is the way” 👏👏

  • @WildStyleStayWild
    @WildStyleStayWild 3 года назад +2

    Love the intro! Super cool 😎

  • @7109170084083
    @7109170084083 3 года назад +1

    Much respect to you both.

    • @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380
      @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380  3 года назад

      Thanks so much and blessings to you and yours

    • @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380
      @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380  3 года назад

      Hi mate, I’ve just received notification you commented on the definition of the H word, but RUclips somehow has removed it because they don’t like that word, so just so you know it wasn’t me, as i got the notification but can’t see what you had written. It’s getting terrible with this censorship

    • @7109170084083
      @7109170084083 3 года назад

      @@flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380 thank you for letting me know. I was just giving the 'historical' dictionary definition of the H word. I didn't know it meant.."a Jewish sacrificial offering that was burned completely on an altar". I only knew its standard definition..ie mass slaughter. So it was interesting and I wanted to share. In the bible the use of the word seems to refer to sacrificial offering. Brilliant interview. Best wishes from South Africa.

    • @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380
      @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380  3 года назад

      Thanks so much and best wishes from Scotland.

  • @WildStyleStayWild
    @WildStyleStayWild 3 года назад +3

    It’s coz you have collaborated with anti vegans that’s why people think your also anti vegan. People just put you on the same team. I will come back and watch the rest . Probably comment again. I comment as I watch the video. That’s why there are many comments. Hope you don’t mind. Much love 💗

    • @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380
      @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380  3 года назад +2

      Thanks my friend. Yeah most likely a guilty by association thing. ❤️

    • @WildStyleStayWild
      @WildStyleStayWild 3 года назад

      @@flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380 exactly. 100 % but if I thought it was true I would not be here. I am a ex vegan not a anti vegan. Reasons are many . But I don’t like the trolling and what I consider bullying first of all by the anti vegans. I just don’t get it. Coz apparently they were vegan once too. Just don’t make any sense to me. Plus I still have compassion for the animals something I think the anti vegans are lacking and leads me to actually wonder if they were vegan for the animals or was it just all ego?

    • @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380
      @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380  3 года назад +1

      Yeah i detest bullying and have called it out often. Weird thing is that RUclips started this with me around the time i was going to slaughterhouses regularly doing activism and i think it was partly that and has just kept going since. Totally agree the most of them seem to have no compassion for animals and that really irks me , as i will always be me as i care for animals and people and whether people like that or not i couldn’t care less as I’m not someone to go with what is popular to please people. Sending blessings x

    • @WildStyleStayWild
      @WildStyleStayWild 3 года назад +1

      @@flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380 ok. I totally get that. And must have been very painful transition to make especially as you worked there too! You have witnessed first hand what the animals go through. And it’s heart breaking to admit that we actually do need animal food to sustain good health. All we can do is be there for all the vegans who will wake up eventually like we did and need our support and help.

    • @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380
      @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380  3 года назад +2

      Yeah absolutely x

  • @ByeByeBelly
    @ByeByeBelly 3 года назад +1

    I can't know anything since I'm just a human but I pray often that animals and people who suffer the most on Earth will be rewarded the most in heaven. I don't see why they would have personalities or be able to show love if they were just "created to be food by God", otherwise it would be far less sadistic to only create plants. But maybe even plants have souls, who knows. I think it's best to reduce and avoid being a part of the system that harms animals and deprives them of living in nature and with their families/groups like they are supposed to. I think it's common sense to want to avoid contributing to that, but if someone feels they need animal products for their health then it's best to buy from smaller farmers who raise the animals and who you can trust don't put chicks in grinders or abuse animals while loading them into trucks and things of that nature. I'm not vegan but I think it's ethically better to be vegan. But I also believe in a lot of other things to help other living things, habitats and the environment as a whole - like having no children or only 1 child, avoiding having many children, minimalism etc.
    I do think what animals go through is comparable to how they treated human beings in the holocaust but I personally wouldn't bring it up because of the sensitive nature of it.

    • @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380
      @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380  3 года назад

      Really great perspective and i totally agree on all you’ve said there, and why i said in the video that each person should do their upmost best, as animals do have personalities and i don’t see why anyone would think they are some sort of automaton that just exists . Blessings to you and yours

  • @fudgeandfriends7226
    @fudgeandfriends7226 3 года назад

    You know we’ve seen our dogs who’ve passed in this house and even felt and seen Susie who passed not so long ago.

  • @divinestarseedtv
    @divinestarseedtv 7 месяцев назад

  • @bigscreenbird8198
    @bigscreenbird8198 3 года назад +1

    Hey tommy have you received my email yet?

  • @skinheadsbowling
    @skinheadsbowling 3 года назад

    How you doing mate ? As a vegan I'm totally depressed to see James Aspey's apparent unravelling over the past couple of weeks as a narcissistic fraud. Really sad.

    • @skinheadsbowling
      @skinheadsbowling 3 года назад

      Ps. on the cat story - I'm an atheist myself but woud so love it if I was wrong and this did happen. My heart has never been so broken and unfixable as when I've lost my cats and to think I could see them again would take away a huge weight that is permanently on me..

    • @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380
      @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380  3 года назад +1

      I’m doing great mate and sending you and yours best wishes. Yeah I’m pretty shocked at James behaviour, as I thought he was one of the good guys, but his intentions just seem to be about making money and not about the animals as first appeared.

    • @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380
      @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380  3 года назад +1

      Yeah i totally feel you mate as it’s heartbreaking. That story is 100% real and the thing is that myself and my mum and grandfather all witnessed it together , plus I’ve had an NDE in the past that i should discuss in a future video

  • @renny6151
    @renny6151 3 года назад

    What makes your religion “more true” than other religions? Also why do Christians feel the need to force others to live by their worldview?

    • @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380
      @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380  3 года назад

      I’m not forcing anyone to live by my “worldview” quite the opposite, as faith lays within yourself and we all have to find that , sometimes through the most difficult of situations in life. Regards Christianity being more true than other religions, I’d say they all believe in one universal truth and all believe in the same god but just under different names or interpretations of that god.

    • @CafeCoda
      @CafeCoda 3 года назад

      @@flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380 so they are all immoral?

    • @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380
      @flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380  3 года назад +1

      No people are sinners and are flawed and that isn’t indicative of religion per se, it’s a human thing

    • @CafeCoda
      @CafeCoda 3 года назад

      @@flowfitnessandmentalhealth3380 yeah, i disagree. Do think you are a sinner, not because its a human thing but because you are raised with the thought you where Born that way, that’s how that works Tommy . You believe that badly written book, which i’m geussing you never read because you still think its true. If you read it you’d know its not.