8 Chess Tips For Intermediate Players (Ep. 6 - Logical Chess Move by Move)
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Welcome to Episode 6 of this "Book Club" series where we are currently going through the book: Logical Chess - Move by Move by Irving Chernev
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The way I like to think about principles is "follow the principles unless you can explain why you don't"
Love it. Cool insight.
Yeah.
Hi Nelson, I have two ideas for videos that would be helpful for myself (1950) & hopefully many others:
1) How to flag well. The idea being avoid simplifications which help your opponent process faster & move quicker, instead looking for active moves which further complicate the position, even if they’re not the best moves.
2) When to play g5 in the Italian as black. I feel there’s little instructional middle game content for black in the Italian, so this could even be a series of plans black can go for depending on the specific setup white goes for in the quiet Italian positions.
Thanks for the awesome instructional content & congrats on reaching 2300!
The author made an interesting point as well when white plays 10.Bb3 saying that the defensive move 10.Be2, placing the bishop where he overlooks two diagonals, is preferable. It’s not something I used to consider a lot and would usually retreat my bishops to the edges of the board to stay on the long diagonals. And I’d do that without really considering/realising the central retreat as an option. And in this case white would’ve had more support on the kingside’s weak light squares.
At 19:00, Qe6 still allows Qh3 next move. That was, in fact, my choice. Let him think I am defending the bishop; that might give me another move to attack his king.
Same
I am really enjoying this series. Thanks for making it. The only thing better would be another over the board tourney. Remember when you did one of those? Please do another one of those some day. I know it's a lot of work, but it was the best combo of entertaining and informative.
I love this series, and you are doing an excellent job! I know you mention the title of the book, "Logical Chess", but please don't forget to mention the author Irving Chernov. Thanks, George
Love it. Had the book sitting gathering dust for years. Nice to work along side you with this. Great stuff. Need more of these in the future.
I had this book when I was in grade school (and still have my copy). It was the easiest chess book to read at the time (lot's of diagrams). I envy the current generation with access to videos that can quickly demonstrate the variations. This series is a pleasure - thanks for doing it!
Thanks for the great videos Nelson, I always thought your explanations are the clearest on chess youtube. 2 questions:
16:00 I and probably other lower players would be tempted to play Bh3 for the tempo on the rook. I guess it's bad because it doesn't lock the f pawn in place?
19:00 Doesn't Qe6 creates the same checkmate threat Qf5?
I believe it does while also making the opponent think that you are defending the bishop.
I had the exact same two questions! Bh3 also gains a tempo on the rook.
0:37
Lmao he was about to say “too furious”
This is an amazing lesson. Thanks for posting it.
Took me years to realize that Ruy Lopez wasn’t actually called the Royal Opus
There was a reporter who in the early 1970s called it "the royal opus." You can always blame him for your mistake.
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😂😂😂that’s creative
Great series, thank you!!
I got the book some time ago but maybe I wasn’t ready for it. However, Nelson’s videos are perfect now, great series!
Black nf6 f4!. Looks awesome.
Excellent Episodes I’m learning and understanding a lot more with your explanations.
My question in game 6 is move 14 Qf5. Is move Qh5 equal? Is it to make opponent think you are attacking his bishop?
Good series. Thank you
There are 33 games in the book, so it will probably continue for some time.
11:25 I guess the problem with the e6 pawn is that if you take it with the queen, queens will be exchanged and then there's this really weak pawn on d4 without any compensating attack. If you take with bishop, your bishop's placed awkwardly.
My problem (in that sac the bishop for mate threat) is that there’s often 1 move I’m missing that saves the position for my opponent.
Or at least that’s in my head, so I play it safe and protect the bishop.
I think maybe I should start flipping the board and start playing those positions as my opponent.
Or stop playing blitz…
@@pearljam_1 I don't like playing games where you have less than 30 minutes for the whole game. Rapid (10 minutes) isn't so bad, but with longer time controls, I rarely (if ever) lose on time.
@@pearljam_1 I don’t play blitz. 15/10
@@mikemck4796 Neither, learning to play is better with rapid 10. You get more time to correctly learn and strategize. While also having it be quick enough to not be mentally draining to train more.
at 14:10 would it not be better to play bishop to d6 creating an immediate checkmate threat and the only way black can defend is to move the pawns in front of the king?
I had the same thought. I kinda like having the pawn chain established first, since you can do it with tempo, but then it's the obvious followup rather than the knight. The knight can still go next to start maneuvering onto the freshly weakened squares, but going with the bishop first basically develops another piece with tempo, which seems better at a glance.
It blocks the d pawn, and you would end up wasting moves in the future to free it
In game 5, after Qxg3 - takes pawn, you suggested Bf5 yet after Qh5 White has advantage as Black can't take knight which makes Black a piece down!
17:55 I am only thinking of bringing the queen to h3 even if I have to sac a piece, so I am watching Qh5(oh I forgot that h-pawn can push forward and blocks the queen😅) and Qf5(Qe6 also works but it is not a bishop sacrifice)
20:23 not only the annoying pawn, that bishop on b5 is also pinning the d7 pawn so black can not develop their light square bishop
Don’t know where else to ask. Is there a directory for Nelson’s presentations of Logical Chess?
Question: at 18:45 why queen f5 so much better than quuen e6? Defending the bishop and making that treath at the same time? I can’t find the difference
Maybe the difference is just psichological. You show to yourself and to the opponent your confidence in your calculation, that you are sure, that your attack will go through and you don’t have to defend the bishop.
Awesome!
Thank you. Always
17:48 here there’s no need to defend that bishop, there’s a checkmate threat here. Qe6, Qf5 and Qh5 all threaten checkmate. Although Qh5 can get blocked by h4 so don’t consider Qh5, do one of the other 2 moves. Forget about the dark square bishop, you’ve got something far tastier in the position.
You lose a tempo on h5 queen move tho.
are you watching the video????
Sir, if we carried out an early castling by white to avoid check by bkack queen, how we could have preserved the e-pawn ?
Sincerely regards !
Hi, good videos, my question is on the finishing moves why not play Qe6 instead of Qf5, it will look like you trying to save the bisof and you can finish the game in two moves
At 19:01, isn't Qe6 also fine as it threatens Qh3 anyway?
There are a couple of theories I want to talk about.
19:39 Bc5 attacks the knight, and white still can't save the game because black takes the knight with the bishop, and still gets checkmated, but I do see that the only way white could delay it is with a queen sack on Qd1. Would there be a tactic I'm missing from here on white?
Also, for the queen moves just before (right after white plays Bf4), would Qe3 work the same since the queen is still on the same diagonal?
If you take the knight on e3 with the bishop white recaptures with the f pawn and the queen protects the checkmate squarw
14:30, how would the game play out if the bishop retreat to e2 instead of b3? Would the checkmate still happen or would white has better chance of defending?
I've been using the Scandinavian vs e4 openings to change things up since I watched one of your videos on it, but it throws me when someone doesn't take the pawn and they just push to e5. Can you do a video on how to handle that please? Thanks!
Does a fianchettoed bishop still count as weakness for king side pawn formations?
On time no: 15:10 When g3 was played to stop 🛑 checkmate the weaknesses were created but if they play Re1 We play Q_h2+ they can play Kf1 and Qh1+ king goes Ke2 there’s no mate. But you told us g3 is the only way possible to stop checkmate but it is wrong is it true though Right???
Though they lose a pawn
19:00
Personally I would go Qe6 to make it look like I want to save the bishop. Is this inaccurate?
After white Nxe5, would black's pawn to g6 stop the Queen attack? It changes the order of things since if e5xg6 then h7xg6 opens the h file for the rook. It looks like g6 blunts the whole attack.
Hey Nelson,
I have possible move for white after black plays Qxe5. It is a3. a3 stops castling and also prevents Bb4 from black. Does it work?
After Bg4 , what about f3. It saves whites game . I think.U can also sac the rook if things get out of hand.
Well, as a Jaenisch devotee, my only concern about this game is : How to cope with the annoying white piece sacrifice after : 6 dxNe5 c6 7.Nc3! (instead of Bc4) and the game is getting messy, and very difficult from the black side !!
In 17:15, wouldn't Qh5 also work out for black? It also threatens to go to h3 and checkmate the king, and if h4 is played, wouldn't g5 open up the white king?
White would just take the g5 pawn with the bishop on e3.
17:11 Shouldn’t white play queen d4 trying to get a queen trade and after black plays queen h5 you can play h4. And black can’t take advantage of the pawn move?
14:27 why couldn’t white take d5 pawn? Yeah you’d be down 3 points but it’s better than having to deal with the annoying pawn structure as you said.
Thank you for this series, Nelson!
Haven't heard the term "holes" in ages. So glad for Nels' refresher.
15:11 instead of pawn move to g3 why not one to f4? Even if en passant by black happens, there is a rook fork on e8 after queen takes bishop e3
After white castled, why didn't black set up the bishop queen battery straight away?
Challenge: Game against Martin but the c, d, e, and f pawns are all flank pawns (c + d pawns are on the a file and e + f pawns are on the h file)
18:05
Hey Nelson, I have a question for you.
Is Qh5 has the same effectiveness as Qf5?
Qh5 is not the same because of h4. And besides, the bishop is already blocked.
@@lethalty6055 I thought the same but with Qe6 - has the same threat and defends the bishop...
I understand the reason he move his Qf5 and not Qh5. …h4 stops the Queen attack.
@15:00 since the knight was gone, what about pawn f3 or f4 to stop queen checkmate!?
In both cases I think there are some tactics capturing the pawn (also en passent if f4) with your own pawn, then you have a pawn a bishop a queen and a knight targeting the white king...and he also lost the f pawn
Becausw taking the pawn re-threatens mate and black will also take the g pawn completely exposing whites king to the attack
Interesting series, but curious about Bobby Fisherman
Fischer the goat
Antisemitics are not GOATs.@@90sK1dFOr3v3r
Hi Nelson - I'm rated around 1500 and this series is very helpful to me. Question - at 14:33, on move 10 for black, would it be better to play Bd6 instead of Nf6? Bd6 has the benefit of coming along with a threat as well as tempo and can be easily followed by Nf6 on the next move. Nf6 is also a developing move, but doesn't seem to create an immediate threat.
At the point of Qf5, why isn't Qh5 better? Qh5 followed by Ng4 locks up the mate doesn't it?
After qh5 white can probably play h4. It’s still completely winning of course, but not as straightforward
15:19 why do you play g3 and weaken the king. Isnt f4 better because the dark squared bishop cant quite het to the diagonal with the bishop in the way
Black can play gxf3 an passant.
9:25 can’t white play Qh5+ after black takes the knight on e5? Then after black moves their knight Bc4.
Black can save the knight with Ng6 as well.
Thank you NM Nelson!
14 : 15 can white play f4
14:15*
I'd say meh because it weakens the g1-a7 diagonal with the king on it, and black can play exf4 en-passant. I'm not sure of what comes next, there are many things going on : white can take f3 with the queen, but if they keep their queen on the a rank, they can pin the black queen with Re1.
Hopefully Nelson will answer this next week, I'm too bad at calculating these things :D
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so here is my question: isnt it better at 14:32 to first move the bishop on d6 before developping the knight, and than go on. because, if we play Knight f6 first he has time for g3 bishop f4 no?
It’s because it blocks the d file pawn so the great move e5 wouldn’t be possible
Instead of Qf5, could you also have played Qe6, keeping the option to retake the bishop in case something unexpected happens?
19:00 is there a reason why Qh5 is bad? I feel like Qh5 and Qf5 accomplish the same thing
Because they can block your attack by pushing the h pawn... now where does your queen go now? F5 - where it could've been in the first place
Yo I had a similar question.
Qh5 allows for h4, which blocks the queen. Qf5 doesn't allow that, as the queen can simply slide in diagonally.
There was a chance you would be inspired by Nelson next Friday. (He might answered your question)
Now he's not.
Or is he?
in 18:45, is Queen h5 a good move?
white has h4
05:15 why not rook h6? After bishop f5
Great explanations, very clear. Also helps when you keep the title of the video simple, normally this helps to get more views!
if pawn en passant we can take back with queen and bishop
4:28 Black playing d6 misses a chance to win the knight and instead lises their knight for a pawn move
Thanks. In further book series, please mention the game as well as the page number. Kindle readers don't have the page numbers.
In 15:08, why not f4
"When you look at this position as a h*e, what is the most important thing in the position?"
Nice quotes rught there.
Nelson is my favorite chess player and coach of all time
Why didn't wight play f5 to stop checkmate
19:01 whats wrong with Qh5? I tought that was he move. But Qf5 also works
There is h4 stopping the queen
15:05 what if he play move like f4
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chess require immense stamina, ask Caruana @@ProjectSincere
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What about Qh5 instead of Qf5
Let's gooooo
"A h*e can be easily chased by a pawn."
First viewer
So?
Black had created a hole on d6
I’ll do one push up for every like this comment gets!
Tip 2 about 8 minutes in.