I think it's so close between him and daniels it doesn't really matter. daniels "looked" better this season but that was with a wr duo that could look like jefferson-jamarr in a couple years, while maye still played well for how bad his team is. I think it comes down to preference in physicals - game breaking speed or a herbert style build. either way, I think it comes down to coaching who turns out better. hope they both ball
@@wasru. Yeah I feel QB2 and QB3 success in the league for this years' draft will come down to situation. I bet ownership gave Poles a pass on Fields either way because he's not 'their' guy. Caleb will be Pole's true project for the immediate future. I'd def be okay with Maye with the Pats staff despite also needing to develop their O-line and receiver weapons. But I def do not trust Kliff with Maye.
this video is 100% CORRECT!!!! Love Drake He Can be GREAT!!! He has Some Work to do! I look forward 2 seeing him play in the Big League!!! #TarHeelNation
Seems very similar to the profiles of guys like Herbert and Allen coming out of college. Biggest thing to me is that his elite traits are things that can't be taught, worthy of the 2nd pick.
@@CarlHodsdon-u1zNah Mariota isn’t on Mayes level as a college qb. Maye is levels above Mariota. Mariota was just a typical fast qb who made good decisions and stuff but Maye is the total package different arm angles big arm big body can scoot he can do it all. His biggest flaw is his mechanics which will tighten up in the NFL with better coaching. That and if he can get rid of that wind up he has when he throws other than that Mariota as a college QB doesn’t come close to Maye and Mayes supporting cast is dog shit at UNC those WR are shitty
A future gun slingers who is 21 and can develop, I would love for him to sit half to the whole season just to learn , while the patriots figure out our Oline and wide receiver depth chart . then give game that is against a weaker opponent when first starting but they say the strongest iron need to heated and forged in fire . The skills are next Level and your analysis is spot on only time will tell. Just glad we got him some offensive help.
The issue with this is that he was coached to do so. That was the systems answer to being hot and it really set him up for faillure. Having said that, I would hate for my team to draft him that high with such inconsistent tape.
@@destinocanton Sometimes drifting is the right thing to do. For as raw and young as he is, he had the highest PFF rating against power 5 teams. He's a long way from where he could end up. Easily the most potential in this draft.
@@guyincognito320 Agreed! But not always and that was UNC's answer to being hot. They essentialy asked him to be the answer, and that set him up for faillure. He'll be more ready for that specific situation in the NFL.
dude Maye is trash he's garbanzo beans Quarterback? more like Nickelback cause he's fallen off... bro's arm is so weak he couldn't toss a salad... jkjkjkjkjk
No, it's normal. Ever notice how there are several villains for each superhero? The Vast Majority Of People can't think, only react. They have room for Only One Entity they're willing to see as Elevated. This is why Americans can't see "politicians." They only think they're looking at 'Government' whenever they see one, 'Government' a solitary Being whose only priority is Our Protection. Same with QBs. Whoever people see as The GOAT, "there can only be one."
People badly need to call out his awful OL, poor OC and scheme, plus the OC was new, as well as the lost WRs and poor weapons around him in 2023. His 2022 tape is more indicative of his potential and talent. Plus, he's young and has only played two full seasons. He has the highest ceiling of any QB in this draft.
Happened to see this video on my RUclips feed. Great breakdowns. This video is just another reason why I’d be fine with my team taking Drake Maye @ #2, if we don’t draft Jayden Daniels. There’s just throws that he makes that throws that nobody outside of Caleb Williams can make. THEN, he’s mobile, as well. My comps for him is Justin Herbert, Big Ben and Jay Cutler.
@@PlaySA Ouch! Honestly, he needs to sit. I believe a team like the Jets or a team with a veteran QB would be a better fit. Jayden Daniels is more ready to play, NOW. Drake Maye has lots of upside, but his flaws won’t be fixed with him starting right away.
@@1Dub79 Lets pump the brakes here. Nobody who said Herbert was going to be a good prospect ever mentioned he'd fix his weaknesses in the offseason and look like a different QB by game 2 in the regular season taking over for Tyrod Taylor. I think Maye could def start considering he can make plays in structure. It just comes down to the situation he ends up in and how his OC utilizes him while covering his possible weaknesses. He'll def need more help than he had in UNC because simulated pressures is getting super trendy in the NFL along with blitzes to confuse the hell out of young QBs.
13:53 This is what it all comes down to. Lacking the ability to complete the fundamental aspects of the task with consistency will always limit one's ceiling.
Josh Allen couldn’t even complete a simple slant throw on time when he first came into the league. I never thought he would be as good as he is now. That’s not to say that Maye is the same prospect that Allen was, but those things can be improved.
@@IamnotJokic True. No one is saying these things can't be learned. But for every Josh Allen, there's a Justin Fields. Two players who have all of the talent necessary to be elite, but one learned how to be consistent and the other hasn't yet. Time will always tell. The earlier one learns these things, the better.
@@hackprefectfields isn’t a good comparison, dude had no help. A guy like Naggy would do a lot to help fields but he still had no weapons to speak of in Chicago, and Allen got diggs, a better o line, and a defense that would bend and not break.
@@IamnotJokic They can be, but the chances are against it. The Bills got lucky with Josh Allen, frankly. Not all players are capable of growing like that. This kid reminds me way more of Daniel Jones.
@@CrypticCabal In terms of learning, practicing, and improving fundamentals for someone who lacks consistency but can do everything that's asked of him physically, Fields is a perfect comparison to Allen. Fields had a much improved line, DJ Moore, and a decent second option in his tight end. Was his early time in Chicago difficult? Yes. But his situation was much better this past season, yet he made no significant improvement. Regardless of the talent around someone, that does not excuse poor fundamentals and lack of work on said fundamentals. If anything failed him, it was the coaching. But even that can only shoulder so much of the blame. Even in a bad coaching situation, good players will find a way to improve. Sadly, time ran out for him.
Seems to be the best prospect in this draft, imo. Footwork can be taught, his anticipation and reads are the best in this class, and that's the recipe for success in the NFL.
No they ain't. His anticipation and reads are the worst in the class among at least the top 5. He makes the wrong reads all the time, it's impossible to tell what he's thinking back there. And he's way more of a see it, throw it type guy. Even the play at 10:00 where they were trying to highlight his anticipation, that isn't NFL anticipation. He saw his guy win on the route then threw the ball. In the NFL you need to throw that pass before the receiver is even out of their break, just going on leverage and DB position. And that's an easy read as far as anticipation is concerned, a comeback route on the sideline where you only need to watch one defender.
The good is SO good. If he just puts in the work to clean up that footwork and we don't rush to start him behind a mediocre (at best) offensive line with barely above average (including our new rookies) WRs, he could be our guy for the next 10-15 years. A new age of Patriots dominance could rise again!
10:00 I would not call that anticipation. The receiver won on the route. Maye doesn't throw the ball until the receiver has completely turned around. That's not NFL anticipation, in the NFL you gotta read the leverage and throw that ball before the receiver has even finished their break.
He's young & young minded. Happy footed as well. I sincerely hope we sit him all season. ... Even if outta the playoffs early I'd still only want to see him out there for the last 2 games at the most. Am worried that the Kraft's will want him playing earlier. ... I don't believe Mayo will, but you know, is what it is. ... They were in Bill's ear & don't see that changing. Kraft's tend to cave to local media pressures. Plus, they'll want to see if he plays well early without talent, so they can continue not coming anywhere close to the cap. Shall see though. ... Hopefully I'm way off on that. Thanks for the video. ... The given time & efforts are indeed appreciated
I mean, isn't every draft a gamble, regardless of the player drafted? Like you can make the case for almost every player in history. You never know until they actually play in the league.
Idk why the media discourse has now essentially been reduced to talking teams into taking a flawed qb prospect. If a prospect is not there, don’t talk yourself into it. There are superb non-qb prospects that should be taken at the top of the draft but dumb GMs feel like taking a qb is necessary.
Yeah man that happens all the time. Usually a team picking top 10 is so far from being good that they need almost everything (especially a solid O line), but usually end up throwing questionable guys into impossible situations and just ruining them. Just because your team needs a QB does not mean you should just take whichever one is available when there is top talent in other positions of need. Then when you do finally get a QB, they actually have a chance to pan out.
Because almost no QB prospect is ever flaw free - The CJ Strouds and Andrew Lucks don't come around very often Most of these guys got to this position through being great position coaches (and nepotism) so always think they can fix a players flaws, if you don't think that, you are unlikely to be an NFL coach There are fantastic players available, but the QB position is the most valuable on the roster, and defines the offense - if you dont have one, you're desperate to get one.
@@ThinkingFootball Stroud was flawed as welll... He just went to a QB system that 90% of QBs would be good in... Brock Purdy Kirk Cousins Baker Mayfield for 3 games... That system makes it easier.
@@jefeseason4990stroud is not a system qb. His touch, timing, anticipation, ability to deal with pressure are all more advanced than Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy benefits from the system AND that roster. He’s a good QB but CJ proved he’s a top tier qb as a rookie
You can’t teach size ,athleticism,or arm talent the rest con be developed. The biggest variable for these prospect is where they end up in The NFL. Mahomes might not be as successful if he had been taken by the Bears or the Patriots. Th initial coaching they receive at the next level is a major factor in their future success
FYI - all of the highlights shown are against non-ACC weak opponents, some of them FCS. They show one throw against Clemson and against NC State, both UNC losses.
As a Jets fan, i wanted them to be in a position to draft him before we got Rodgers. I just hope NE doesn't get him. If he isn't a bust, his potential is better than Herbert.
as a patriots fan, I'm hoping we get him at 3 lol. I think he's a great fit, we can sit him for a year and let brissett start to see where the weapons/oline really is at as to not exacerbate his footwork/oline trust issues. then, make the corresponding changes in the offseason and let him loose the following year
Jetfan brethren here. Their breakdown on Zach Wilson was spot on. I wish JD watched it before drafting him. They said he was a 3rd round pick at best before the draft.
That's a big ask in this league man. There are a lot of good quarterbacks already playing in it. And no way in hell does he do that if he DOESN'T work out his mechanics. He won't be doing jack if he doesn't fix his feet and overall throwing mechanics to improve his accuracy.
Commanders will sent him raw directly to war, he'll look more like the second part of the vid. But the Pats may have the patience to sit him behind Brisset for a while
Totally agree with the assessment and keeping him away from Kingsbury LOL. I do think Daniels is a better fit anyway for the Kingsbury's O, but we'll see
at 16:21: "When the pressure piles on, the chaos multiplies". The most severe charge I ever heard you bring against a player! But it is close to your opinion of Will Lewis last year, isn't it? BTW, I learn more about the game every time I check your vids. A big thank you for your work.
Definitely not the same as Levis! I have major concerns over Mayes game, but he flashes every high level skill you wanna see - Levis never showed the anticipation and reading skills of Maye. Glad you learn more every vid - hoping to do a proper football tutorial series this summer for people to learn the game
TF's Levis opinion endured in the regular season. Granted the Titans didn't have much to work with and Levis did have a couple games where going deep got him on the highlight reel. But overall his game was eh.
if the vikings manage to trade up and get him it will really be a match made in heaven for both sides, its gonna take good coaching but his ceiling could be just as high if not higher than williams
All the rumors now are the Giants are aggressively trying to get the 3rd pick from the Patriots. Some are saying that the Patriots are more interested in JJ McCarthy compared to Drake and may be looking to move down, draft JJ, and get some additional draft capital in the process. It's definitely intriguing to see if the Giants get him though and Brian Daboll can work with him in the same way he did with Josh Allen in Buffalo. There's some comparisons there. Big arm strength, athleticism, but some major concerns regarding his footwork and accuracy...definitely reminds me of Josh Allen coming out of the draft, and look at what Josh is now. Don't know what'll happen on draft night but Maye to the Giants is definitely the most intriguing outcome for me, just because of what Daboll was able to do with Josh Allen in a relatively short amount of time. Giants definitely need receiver help and secondary help, but lord knows Daniel Jones aint it for them. That ship has sailed.
So far Drake only started in 26 college games and zero NFL Practice , so I hope Drake and the coaches are paying attention to this and we will see how he looks after a full NFL season .
Obviously this could age badly, but I think Maye was the best choice for NE. I think Williams would be the only other good fit (NE wasnt getting Williams). with maybe Bo Nix. Jayden Daniels would be stepping into a big downgrade for what he currently has and what ue had at LSU. I think the same for Penix and McCarthy.
Maye is like buying one of those billion dollar lottery tickets. You know that it is a long shot but if you hit with his trait if the stars align you could have something special. If he ends up in Minnesota I give him a decent chance to be a good QB. If he goes to NE or Washington his rooky contract will be his only contract.
I feel Maye can grow with the Pats. O-line is a huge weakness for them to fix but when its good, they aren't afraid to run the ball with their bruiser in Stevenson. Plus their defense when healthy is rock solid. Their coaching staff on offense has something to prove but certainly not the known sore commodity that is Kliff being the OC with the Washington team. Where he is most certainly going to waste the existing receiver talents there because he can't program a competent passing game.
Such a tough evaluation, hope he gets a chance to sit for a bit to work on his footwork. Kinda looks like Jordan Love, but somehow Love gets away with the bouncy footwork
As a UNC fan who has followed his career, I hope he gets a chance to sit behind someone for a season or two. There's a lot of promise, but his mechanics are not day 1 ready. I also hope he gets the O-Line he never got at UNC. He needs a team that won't rely on him to play hero ball.
I think his footwork issue being 'alleviated' will come down to the situation he's drafted in. Also some of these top prospects are already trying to fix their footwork in the time period before getting drafted and before the regular season. Maybe even to the point where the footwork issues aren't as pronounced as they are on their college tape when they get their first start in September.
If he cleans up his mechanics n pocket discipline (watching the rush instead of downfield, leaving and runnin round the pocket when not needed etc etc) he’ll be good.
@@jasonderby7635he def has bad traits, I just dont thing his processing is one of them. For example, at 15:50 to me it looks more like he didn’t want to get his receiver killed by the LB, and was looking for something in the endzone. Plus, by the time the whip is really open, he is under heavy pressure. I think a lot of his processing issues (not all of them) can be put on poor scheme and OL play
I don’t know if you saw it but Bill Belichick broke his film down too and basically said the same things you have. Maye’s footwork and decision making causes him a lot of issues as a passer
@@ThinkingFootball They're silly because one trade or unexpected move ruins the whole board. I think going through each teams needs vs the prospects who could realistically be on the board for them would be very interesting though.
@@Rudipu It just seems like they're designed to get clicks to me - link a player with a team to get fans excited and draw views, whilst offering basically nothing of substance We aim to bring nuance to the game as efficiently as possible - im not here to steal your attention for the sake of it.
What is the ideal landing spot where you think he would develop properly? Denver doesnt have the WR to reward those lapses. NE needs to rebuild their Oline. Seattle? Edit - Jets to sit a year?
Behind Brisket or Geno and sit for a year, give him a chance to tune the mechanics and eye placement, and he could be deadly Both those are new coaching staffs though, so hard to know how they'll develop a QB I think almost every QB should come out and sit for a year, it just makes sense
@@21Kolb Pickett wasn't going to save a team hell bent on Canada's play calling until Thanksgiving last year. Along with a HC whose also hell bent on trying to win with his defense.
The only real flaw everyone points to all the time with drake is his erratic accuracy at times...which is very coachable bc it's primarily an effect of bad footwork. Outside of that, Drake has nearly everything you could want in a QB. Clean up the footwork issues and he'll be a beast. He's very Josh Herbert/Josh Allen like.
Give this dude 2 years to sit and he could easily be Jordan Love but we know that wont happen. NFL has qb evaluation backwards. They look at qbs expecting a complete player when they should be looking for guys with elite traits that cant be taught and give them the time and resources to develop that which can be taught. Patience and reps. Patience and reps.
I have shut off the loxal media for good in Boston. Not that I ever agreed with them. Quite the opposite. But Maye was clear pick to me. Even with the warts.
You can't have this bad of a mental game in the NFL. The defenses are too good and will eat you alive. We've seen this with a lot of the prototypical big arm tall quarterbacks that go bust in recent years, Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold come to mind. Prototypes just don't work that well with offenses anymore just because the volume of throws is too high and you have to be either a Tom Brady levels of perfection or have other skills other than arm talent.
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Penix Jr. - I think he will be a steal.
Please do Malik Nabers i still have MHJ #1 but he dead close Odunze would be too
Im a bears fan and every mock has williams + odunze at 9 so im hyped
Jayden Daniels!!!!
Jayden Daniels sir!
penix or Daniels next!
I remember last year's CJ Stroud call.
Yall's analysis is top tier and I trust it.
You got a link?
@@DaddyDemocrat I think he put it on his Patreon. Bro ought to be a professional scout for a team
There is no CJ Stroud video lmao
Drake Maye is going to lead the NFL in interceptions. He's scary bad for a pick this high.
@@BryanSmith-bn3wqthat was Mac jones u thinking of
This was well balanced. The QB discourse is always exhausting, but it feels especially bad this time around.
There's just 3 top names and none of them are perfect, plenty for people to argue over
@@ThinkingFootballno, but Marvin Harrison Jr is
Maye was the consensus number 2 until they stopped playing football is all I’m gonna say
I think it's so close between him and daniels it doesn't really matter. daniels "looked" better this season but that was with a wr duo that could look like jefferson-jamarr in a couple years, while maye still played well for how bad his team is. I think it comes down to preference in physicals - game breaking speed or a herbert style build. either way, I think it comes down to coaching who turns out better. hope they both ball
@@wasru. Yeah I feel QB2 and QB3 success in the league for this years' draft will come down to situation. I bet ownership gave Poles a pass on Fields either way because he's not 'their' guy. Caleb will be Pole's true project for the immediate future. I'd def be okay with Maye with the Pats staff despite also needing to develop their O-line and receiver weapons. But I def do not trust Kliff with Maye.
Many scouts dropped Maye out of the first round entirely because he's got so many holes in his game.
So pumped we got him in NE
Why? He stinks.
@@BryanSmith-bn3wq says who?
this video is 100% CORRECT!!!! Love Drake He Can be GREAT!!! He has Some Work to do! I look forward 2 seeing him play in the Big League!!! #TarHeelNation
Jayden Daniels impresses me. Especially his footwork.
Would love to see that breakdown next.
Unfortunately the SEC doesn’t like people using their tape
@@givenchygorillaI didn't know that
It's out on Patreon now!
First time I have ever sence one of your breakdowns. Better than any I have ever seen. Thank you. Have done one on Spencer Rattler?
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Seems very similar to the profiles of guys like Herbert and Allen coming out of college. Biggest thing to me is that his elite traits are things that can't be taught, worthy of the 2nd pick.
I was gonna same the same thing
Thats how you get Mariota or any one of dozens of QBs that have failed because they were picked based on traits not skills.
@@CarlHodsdon-u1zNah Mariota isn’t on Mayes level as a college qb. Maye is levels above Mariota. Mariota was just a typical fast qb who made good decisions and stuff but Maye is the total package different arm angles big arm big body can scoot he can do it all. His biggest flaw is his mechanics which will tighten up in the NFL with better coaching. That and if he can get rid of that wind up he has when he throws other than that Mariota as a college QB doesn’t come close to Maye and Mayes supporting cast is dog shit at UNC those WR are shitty
He’s Mitchell Trubisky 2.0
He definitely should be the 2nd pick over Daniels. He’s two years younger has a much better arm and played on a much worse team in college.
A future gun slingers who is 21 and can develop, I would love for him to sit half to the whole season just to learn , while the patriots figure out our Oline and wide receiver depth chart . then give game that is against a weaker opponent when first starting but they say the strongest iron need to heated and forged in fire . The skills are next Level and your analysis is spot on only time will tell. Just glad we got him some offensive help.
He's going to throw more INTs than Mac Jones. This guy is a head case.
@@BryanSmith-bn3wq maybe but so did Josh Allen in his first year
by far my favorite Channel for analysis. Absolutely top notch!
He drifts a lot in the pocket. Mechanics could be coached, i think he’s worth the 2nd pick.
If I were a GM, I am not drafting him.
2nd is too rich for my blood.
The issue with this is that he was coached to do so. That was the systems answer to being hot and it really set him up for faillure. Having said that, I would hate for my team to draft him that high with such inconsistent tape.
@@destinocanton Sometimes drifting is the right thing to do. For as raw and young as he is, he had the highest PFF rating against power 5 teams. He's a long way from where he could end up. Easily the most potential in this draft.
@@guyincognito320 Agreed! But not always and that was UNC's answer to being hot. They essentialy asked him to be the answer, and that set him up for faillure. He'll be more ready for that specific situation in the NFL.
The Maye hate in instagram comments is absolutely insane
He follows all white starting QBs in the nfl 😂
I only read twitter, instagram is generally pdf files in the comments saying wild shit
dude Maye is trash he's garbanzo beans Quarterback? more like Nickelback cause he's fallen off... bro's arm is so weak he couldn't toss a salad... jkjkjkjkjk
The love he gets is paid for
No, it's normal. Ever notice how there are several villains for each superhero? The Vast Majority Of People can't think, only react. They have room for Only One Entity they're willing to see as Elevated. This is why Americans can't see "politicians." They only think they're looking at 'Government' whenever they see one, 'Government' a solitary Being whose only priority is Our Protection.
Same with QBs. Whoever people see as The GOAT, "there can only be one."
People badly need to call out his awful OL, poor OC and scheme, plus the OC was new, as well as the lost WRs and poor weapons around him in 2023. His 2022 tape is more indicative of his potential and talent. Plus, he's young and has only played two full seasons. He has the highest ceiling of any QB in this draft.
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This is the best breakdown video on Drake Maye that I've seen so far.
Happened to see this video on my RUclips feed. Great breakdowns. This video is just another reason why I’d be fine with my team taking Drake Maye @ #2, if we don’t draft Jayden Daniels. There’s just throws that he makes that throws that nobody outside of Caleb Williams can make. THEN, he’s mobile, as well. My comps for him is Justin Herbert, Big Ben and Jay Cutler.
Jay Cutler and Daniel Jones for me. Not a huge fan tbh
@@PlaySA Ouch! Honestly, he needs to sit. I believe a team like the Jets or a team with a veteran QB would be a better fit. Jayden Daniels is more ready to play, NOW. Drake Maye has lots of upside, but his flaws won’t be fixed with him starting right away.
@@1Dub79 agreed.
@@1Dub79 Lets pump the brakes here. Nobody who said Herbert was going to be a good prospect ever mentioned he'd fix his weaknesses in the offseason and look like a different QB by game 2 in the regular season taking over for Tyrod Taylor. I think Maye could def start considering he can make plays in structure. It just comes down to the situation he ends up in and how his OC utilizes him while covering his possible weaknesses. He'll def need more help than he had in UNC because simulated pressures is getting super trendy in the NFL along with blitzes to confuse the hell out of young QBs.
His ability to move in the pocket reminds me of Purdy. Tight turns, good lateral quickness and a good awareness of pressure.
Really hope these videos stay up
13:53 This is what it all comes down to. Lacking the ability to complete the fundamental aspects of the task with consistency will always limit one's ceiling.
Josh Allen couldn’t even complete a simple slant throw on time when he first came into the league. I never thought he would be as good as he is now. That’s not to say that Maye is the same prospect that Allen was, but those things can be improved.
@@IamnotJokic True. No one is saying these things can't be learned. But for every Josh Allen, there's a Justin Fields. Two players who have all of the talent necessary to be elite, but one learned how to be consistent and the other hasn't yet. Time will always tell. The earlier one learns these things, the better.
@@hackprefectfields isn’t a good comparison, dude had no help. A guy like Naggy would do a lot to help fields but he still had no weapons to speak of in Chicago, and Allen got diggs, a better o line, and a defense that would bend and not break.
@@IamnotJokic They can be, but the chances are against it. The Bills got lucky with Josh Allen, frankly. Not all players are capable of growing like that. This kid reminds me way more of Daniel Jones.
@@CrypticCabal In terms of learning, practicing, and improving fundamentals for someone who lacks consistency but can do everything that's asked of him physically, Fields is a perfect comparison to Allen. Fields had a much improved line, DJ Moore, and a decent second option in his tight end.
Was his early time in Chicago difficult? Yes. But his situation was much better this past season, yet he made no significant improvement.
Regardless of the talent around someone, that does not excuse poor fundamentals and lack of work on said fundamentals. If anything failed him, it was the coaching. But even that can only shoulder so much of the blame. Even in a bad coaching situation, good players will find a way to improve. Sadly, time ran out for him.
Seems to be the best prospect in this draft, imo. Footwork can be taught, his anticipation and reads are the best in this class, and that's the recipe for success in the NFL.
No they ain't. His anticipation and reads are the worst in the class among at least the top 5. He makes the wrong reads all the time, it's impossible to tell what he's thinking back there. And he's way more of a see it, throw it type guy. Even the play at 10:00 where they were trying to highlight his anticipation, that isn't NFL anticipation. He saw his guy win on the route then threw the ball. In the NFL you need to throw that pass before the receiver is even out of their break, just going on leverage and DB position. And that's an easy read as far as anticipation is concerned, a comeback route on the sideline where you only need to watch one defender.
We forgetting Marvin Harrison Jr is in this draft?
@@PlaySA To be fair, none of the QBs this class have shown good anticipation nor good reads.
@@ThinkingFootball QB I mean of course lol
This guy is no where near the best QB prospect... LOOK at the Virginia game he had multiple bad throws while unpressured.
Emulsified egg bowl lol
If Maye played 5 years like all the other QBs, it wouldn’t be a discussion who is better
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The good is SO good. If he just puts in the work to clean up that footwork and we don't rush to start him behind a mediocre (at best) offensive line with barely above average (including our new rookies) WRs, he could be our guy for the next 10-15 years. A new age of Patriots dominance could rise again!
been waiting for these to come back
10:00 I would not call that anticipation. The receiver won on the route. Maye doesn't throw the ball until the receiver has completely turned around. That's not NFL anticipation, in the NFL you gotta read the leverage and throw that ball before the receiver has even finished their break.
He's young & young minded. Happy footed as well. I sincerely hope we sit him all season. ... Even if outta the playoffs early I'd still only want to see him out there for the last 2 games at the most.
Am worried that the Kraft's will want him playing earlier. ... I don't believe Mayo will, but you know, is what it is. ... They were in Bill's ear & don't see that changing.
Kraft's tend to cave to local media pressures. Plus, they'll want to see if he plays well early without talent, so they can continue not coming anywhere close to the cap.
Shall see though. ... Hopefully I'm way off on that.
Thanks for the video. ... The given time & efforts are indeed appreciated
Haaaa i see what you did with that title 😁😎
Yeah. After 3 minutes I realized I didn’t care about the video. Oh well
Biggest boom or bust potential of all the top QB's in the draft IMHO.
I mean, isn't every draft a gamble, regardless of the player drafted? Like you can make the case for almost every player in history. You never know until they actually play in the league.
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I’ve been getting more and more pro maye
Idk why the media discourse has now essentially been reduced to talking teams into taking a flawed qb prospect. If a prospect is not there, don’t talk yourself into it. There are superb non-qb prospects that should be taken at the top of the draft but dumb GMs feel like taking a qb is necessary.
Yeah man that happens all the time. Usually a team picking top 10 is so far from being good that they need almost everything (especially a solid O line), but usually end up throwing questionable guys into impossible situations and just ruining them. Just because your team needs a QB does not mean you should just take whichever one is available when there is top talent in other positions of need. Then when you do finally get a QB, they actually have a chance to pan out.
Because almost no QB prospect is ever flaw free - The CJ Strouds and Andrew Lucks don't come around very often
Most of these guys got to this position through being great position coaches (and nepotism) so always think they can fix a players flaws, if you don't think that, you are unlikely to be an NFL coach
There are fantastic players available, but the QB position is the most valuable on the roster, and defines the offense - if you dont have one, you're desperate to get one.
@@ThinkingFootball Stroud was flawed as welll... He just went to a QB system that 90% of QBs would be good in... Brock Purdy Kirk Cousins Baker Mayfield for 3 games... That system makes it easier.
@@ThinkingFootball you’ll be more successful if you build out the team first rather than reaching on a qb. Look at the eagles and 49ers.
@@jefeseason4990stroud is not a system qb. His touch, timing, anticipation, ability to deal with pressure are all more advanced than Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy benefits from the system AND that roster. He’s a good QB but CJ proved he’s a top tier qb as a rookie
You have my attention because you asked so nicely, and your content consistently bangs...
You can’t teach size ,athleticism,or arm talent the rest con be developed. The biggest variable for these prospect is where they end up in The NFL. Mahomes might not be as successful if he had been taken by the Bears or the Patriots. Th initial coaching they receive at the next level is a major factor in their future success
FYI - all of the highlights shown are against non-ACC weak opponents, some of them FCS. They show one throw against Clemson and against NC State, both UNC losses.
We need a review on Jayden Daniels!!!
This is very interesting, I do think the footwork can be fixed by a competent franchise with good coaching
As a Jets fan, i wanted them to be in a position to draft him before we got Rodgers. I just hope NE doesn't get him. If he isn't a bust, his potential is better than Herbert.
as a patriots fan, I'm hoping we get him at 3 lol. I think he's a great fit, we can sit him for a year and let brissett start to see where the weapons/oline really is at as to not exacerbate his footwork/oline trust issues. then, make the corresponding changes in the offseason and let him loose the following year
That scramble and left hand throw was a throw I’ve only seen Pat Mahomes make
Amazing you predicted Patriots will draft Mr. Maye. Great analysis.
Your are the best in the business literally when it comes to this draft sh**. Can’t wait for more videos!! I’m a jet fan hook me up!!
Jetfan brethren here. Their breakdown on Zach Wilson was spot on. I wish JD watched it before drafting him. They said he was a 3rd round pick at best before the draft.
Facts!
I think Drake has an equal ceiling to Caleb Williams. Even if he doesnt work out his mechanics, I think he can be good enough to be a top 10 QB
That's a big ask in this league man. There are a lot of good quarterbacks already playing in it. And no way in hell does he do that if he DOESN'T work out his mechanics. He won't be doing jack if he doesn't fix his feet and overall throwing mechanics to improve his accuracy.
He reminds me of stafford coming out of college.
If he can sit behind a veteran for a few years like Jordan Love did, he could be amazing....but teams probably won't have the patience to do that
Commanders will sent him raw directly to war, he'll look more like the second part of the vid. But the Pats may have the patience to sit him behind Brisset for a while
@@federicocrescentini4806as a Pats fan I hope you’re right
Nice breakdown
Thanks for the education
NY Giants, please give the Pats an offer they cant refuse for the 3rd pick. Pray its Maye and if not Daniels will work too
Maye is a commander buddy
@@sdhfgujk467 Giants will still sweep yall
If you told me this was Trubisky film I wouldn't even think twice about it
When have you seen Trubisky anticipate anything?
You a dope
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Will the real QB1 please stand up
Totally agree with the assessment and keeping him away from Kingsbury LOL. I do think Daniels is a better fit anyway for the Kingsbury's O, but we'll see
at 16:21: "When the pressure piles on, the chaos multiplies". The most severe charge I ever heard you bring against a player! But it is close to your opinion of Will Lewis last year, isn't it? BTW, I learn more about the game every time I check your vids. A big thank you for your work.
Definitely not the same as Levis! I have major concerns over Mayes game, but he flashes every high level skill you wanna see - Levis never showed the anticipation and reading skills of Maye.
Glad you learn more every vid - hoping to do a proper football tutorial series this summer for people to learn the game
TF's Levis opinion endured in the regular season. Granted the Titans didn't have much to work with and Levis did have a couple games where going deep got him on the highlight reel. But overall his game was eh.
@@t4d0W Even the game when he went off the refs were on crack - 3 of his 4 scores were CLEAR OPIs they refused to call
I'm so curious about the capitalization choices in the video's title.
I didn’t catch the Kingsburry comment at the end? Help pls
Good prediction on the draft 😅
Coach great vid!
if hes this good at 21 i have a ton of confidence in him... great analysis
"Maye I have your attention please!"
Me: Will the real Slim Shady, please stand up!
if the vikings manage to trade up and get him it will really be a match made in heaven for both sides, its gonna take good coaching but his ceiling could be just as high if not higher than williams
He sees the right reads and footwork is fixable I think he’ll be fine
Maye the real slim shady please stand up
All the rumors now are the Giants are aggressively trying to get the 3rd pick from the Patriots. Some are saying that the Patriots are more interested in JJ McCarthy compared to Drake and may be looking to move down, draft JJ, and get some additional draft capital in the process.
It's definitely intriguing to see if the Giants get him though and Brian Daboll can work with him in the same way he did with Josh Allen in Buffalo. There's some comparisons there. Big arm strength, athleticism, but some major concerns regarding his footwork and accuracy...definitely reminds me of Josh Allen coming out of the draft, and look at what Josh is now. Don't know what'll happen on draft night but Maye to the Giants is definitely the most intriguing outcome for me, just because of what Daboll was able to do with Josh Allen in a relatively short amount of time. Giants definitely need receiver help and secondary help, but lord knows Daniel Jones aint it for them. That ship has sailed.
So far Drake only started in 26 college games and zero NFL Practice , so I hope Drake and the coaches are paying attention to this and we will see how he looks after a full NFL season .
Don’t overthink it. He should go #2 overall
I'm wondering what the Brock Purdy tape (from college) analysis would look like
Drake Maye looks like Josh Allen at Wyoming to me. If he can get better with his accuracy and reading the field.. dude could be a legit NFL star.
Obviously this could age badly, but I think Maye was the best choice for NE. I think Williams would be the only other good fit (NE wasnt getting Williams). with maybe Bo Nix. Jayden Daniels would be stepping into a big downgrade for what he currently has and what ue had at LSU. I think the same for Penix and McCarthy.
13:09 I get that throw was a tick late but it literally hit his receiver in the face lol. Needs to be a catch
Love the video, can you do jayden Daniels too ?
Future patriot
He looks like Josh Allen like of wheels
Please save my life Drake Maye 🙏🏾
Maye is like buying one of those billion dollar lottery tickets. You know that it is a long shot but if you hit with his trait if the stars align you could have something special. If he ends up in Minnesota I give him a decent chance to be a good QB. If he goes to NE or Washington his rooky contract will be his only contract.
I feel Maye can grow with the Pats. O-line is a huge weakness for them to fix but when its good, they aren't afraid to run the ball with their bruiser in Stevenson. Plus their defense when healthy is rock solid. Their coaching staff on offense has something to prove but certainly not the known sore commodity that is Kliff being the OC with the Washington team. Where he is most certainly going to waste the existing receiver talents there because he can't program a competent passing game.
Such a tough evaluation, hope he gets a chance to sit for a bit to work on his footwork. Kinda looks like Jordan Love, but somehow Love gets away with the bouncy footwork
As a UNC fan who has followed his career, I hope he gets a chance to sit behind someone for a season or two. There's a lot of promise, but his mechanics are not day 1 ready. I also hope he gets the O-Line he never got at UNC. He needs a team that won't rely on him to play hero ball.
I think his footwork issue being 'alleviated' will come down to the situation he's drafted in. Also some of these top prospects are already trying to fix their footwork in the time period before getting drafted and before the regular season. Maybe even to the point where the footwork issues aren't as pronounced as they are on their college tape when they get their first start in September.
If he cleans up his mechanics n pocket discipline (watching the rush instead of downfield, leaving and runnin round the pocket when not needed etc etc) he’ll be good.
I see a new thinking football video and I click. It’s that simple
Cute title, but you should also include something about what the video is actually about so people can find it when searching
His processing is his most underrated trait. It seems to me that any “missed reads” are intentional and not really misses
Lmao what does that even mean? You’re trying to do mental gymnastics to justify bad traits.
@@jasonderby7635he def has bad traits, I just dont thing his processing is one of them. For example, at 15:50 to me it looks more like he didn’t want to get his receiver killed by the LB, and was looking for something in the endzone. Plus, by the time the whip is really open, he is under heavy pressure. I think a lot of his processing issues (not all of them) can be put on poor scheme and OL play
Totally unnecessary shot at Kliff. Just kidding, as a Cardinals fan I've said way worse.
I don’t know if you saw it but Bill Belichick broke his film down too and basically said the same things you have. Maye’s footwork and decision making causes him a lot of issues as a passer
Are you / gave you put together a mock draft ?
Would you guys want one? I always find Mock Drafts to be a bit silly - definitely wanna do a big board video though!
@@ThinkingFootball They're silly because one trade or unexpected move ruins the whole board. I think going through each teams needs vs the prospects who could realistically be on the board for them would be very interesting though.
@@Rudipu It just seems like they're designed to get clicks to me - link a player with a team to get fans excited and draw views, whilst offering basically nothing of substance
We aim to bring nuance to the game as efficiently as possible - im not here to steal your attention for the sake of it.
@@ThinkingFootballbig board would be much more insightful. Care more about your evals than fantasy booking a draft
These are 🔥
May the real slim shady please stand up!
What is the ideal landing spot where you think he would develop properly?
Denver doesnt have the WR to reward those lapses. NE needs to rebuild their Oline. Seattle?
Edit - Jets to sit a year?
Behind Brisket or Geno and sit for a year, give him a chance to tune the mechanics and eye placement, and he could be deadly
Both those are new coaching staffs though, so hard to know how they'll develop a QB
I think almost every QB should come out and sit for a year, it just makes sense
@@ThinkingFootball too bad pickett didn't have a quality vet to learn from. Being a steeler fan is so frustrating lol.
@@21Kolb Pickett didnt have it coming out of college - there was no vet QB saving him
@@21Kolb Pickett wasn't going to save a team hell bent on Canada's play calling until Thanksgiving last year. Along with a HC whose also hell bent on trying to win with his defense.
Why are all these highlights in the gun?
why can’t kliff kingsbury work with him
The end 💀
Can u make a vid for the corners too pls🙏🏾
Yessir
QB1
Need the Penix video asap
The only real flaw everyone points to all the time with drake is his erratic accuracy at times...which is very coachable bc it's primarily an effect of bad footwork. Outside of that, Drake has nearly everything you could want in a QB. Clean up the footwork issues and he'll be a beast. He's very Josh Herbert/Josh Allen like.
Patriots 🍻
I think Kliff can develop QBs keep him away from the play sheet and you’ll be good
Throws a t d Lefty,,, never seen that before from a pure righty.wow
I can see why Simms doesn't like Maye I mean he's just too inconsistent when reading defenses a slow release and footwork all over the place
Give this dude 2 years to sit and he could easily be Jordan Love but we know that wont happen. NFL has qb evaluation backwards. They look at qbs expecting a complete player when they should be looking for guys with elite traits that cant be taught and give them the time and resources to develop that which can be taught. Patience and reps. Patience and reps.
I have shut off the loxal media for good in Boston. Not that I ever agreed with them. Quite the opposite. But Maye was clear pick to me. Even with the warts.
Maye being spooked due to bad O-line play & running himself into danger reminds me of Justin Fields. They be seeing ghosts out there.
Bad comparison
@@joshmontez7982 How so?
@@bofi1280 Justin fields makes his olines bad Drake Maye actually has bad olines
You can't have this bad of a mental game in the NFL. The defenses are too good and will eat you alive. We've seen this with a lot of the prototypical big arm tall quarterbacks that go bust in recent years, Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold come to mind. Prototypes just don't work that well with offenses anymore just because the volume of throws is too high and you have to be either a Tom Brady levels of perfection or have other skills other than arm talent.