Hunter's, Zeppelin & Alpine Butterfly Bends
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- Demonstration of novel methods for tying three secure and essential bends: 1) Hunter's Bend (ABoK #1425A, and also known as Rigger's Bend), 2) Zeppelin Bend and 3) Alpine Butterfly Bend (also known as Butterfly Bend). Note that a "bend" is a type of knot used to join two lines. Also demonstrated is a set of demonstrations on "how not to" tie these same bends, given that simple mistakes in the knot tying sequence can cause the formation of "look alike" knots, which are difficult to detect in the inspection process. Related Videos:
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Thanks for the comparison between Hunters and Zeppelin at the end. This is the first real-world pros/cons I've seen after a good bit of looking.
I appreciate that. Early in my climbing career I used to use the Zeppelin for life safety. It had such a great reputation for being strong. But that strength is undermined by its lack of stability.
I'm very glad you posted both the correct and incorrect knots, I've found two other yt channels showing false zeppelin bends calling them hunters bends and I sent them a comment to let them know, since no one wants an insecure knot accident in their life...
Interesting. There's more than one way to form these knots, correctly or incorrectly. I am just attempting to show them in a logical fashion... the way I tie them. Pls be sure that the suggestion you make to others is based on the final result... not the method in which it was tied.
Thanks John.
Great instructions!
Thank you. There is no script... i just breathe this stuff. Cheers
Wonderful, thanks for the class
I may watch this one myself! The AB bend isn't one I use as often as the others.
Nice Vid!!! I can see one reason why you like the Hunters Bend so much, if you tighten and slack the standing ends pushing and pulling them right near the knot, like you did with the zeppelin bend, it still doesn't want to come apart because of the inner windings of the knot. I also found the butterfly can unwind fairly quickly this way also which makes me want to put stopper knots on it to be more secure.
I agree. I would assess the stability of AB to be somewhere in between the other 2. There are a few uses for the AB bend though. And if you put a BIG load on a Hunters Bend, it might need to be cut out. But for a low slack or no slack climber like me, I don't know how I can generate anything close to that.
Vey useful. Glad you posted this
I have been thinking about this one for a while. There are some other bends that I use but felt that would be too much content for one video.
This format is just right.
I've been watching many of your videos, and I've learned much.
The Reever bend looks solid and compact, with ends parallel to the main rope. I would reever bend almost anything, maybe even a lifeline.
Can I have your opinion?
Great question and suggestion. I just tied it in a 6mm loop, got my body on it briefly, and untied it. It was tight but not impossible, which is good. I believe It would require some testing prior to a general recommendation for life safety, as I can't find anything to verify its strength. It's very compact in width and has the ends coming out parallel to the load strands, which is nice for certain applications. I will add it to my ToDo list!
@@jrbtc Thanks for your reply! Much appreciated!
I like these different variations of bends especially knowing that they originate from the overhand bend. I like tying the overhand rethread bend, I've noticed that I'm just not a fan of tails that are horizontal. I prefer vertical tails, like the double or triple fisherman's bend (But I do know they can become a little hard to undo after loaded). What are your thoughts on the overhand rethread bend and double fisherman's bend?
I believe the rethreaded overhand you are referring to is the same as the Water Knot. I have used it but it's more difficult to untie than the Hunters. But there applications where i don't want horizontal tails, and assuming a vertical load, that's where I will use the SLIDING double or triple Fisherman's knot, link below. The non sliding variant is extremely strong but impossible to untie. And so, I no longer use it.
ruclips.net/video/YBPXVMjn3b4/видео.htmlsi=dvdTiGPXUnSCfjQ-
Here's an application where I wanted no horizontal tails and as compact an assembly as possible, so I went with the slider.
ruclips.net/video/-v78T5tcrXY/видео.htmlsi=B65QDqWDyul4RBEZ
@@jrbtc Thanks John
@@jrbtc Correct. it's the same as the water knot.