FINALLY someone acknowledging that when you have a pressurized basket the additional pressure created by the basket requires a less firm tamp. So many of these comparison videos with pressurized versus non pressurized baskets tamp both porterfilters to the same degree which ALWAYS results in the pressurized basket producing a sour or less desirable shot. To properly dial in a non pressurized basket you need to adjust your grind AND your tamp. Doing so will result in a better shot than you realize, even satisfying most non-pressurized snobs. Certainly non pressurized baskets are great if you have the time to play but when you live in a home with multiple individuals and don't have time to fuss around with adjustments every day a pressurized basket can be a godsend. I save my non pressurized basket for my days off when I can take the time to truly dial in and enjoy a shot. And please don't tell me to just remember my settings because each and every time it's different to some degree, for some reason that only the coffee gods can explain.
Thanks for the comment. Im using a pressurized portafilter on my Cafe Roma, and my shots are coming out sour. I think im tamping too hard. Tommorow ill try using less pressure and see how it turns out.
@@Katsuya89 Happy to be of help but please remember you may need to take BOTH of the things I mentioned into consideration. While its true that pressurized baskets are "more forgiving" they will still require a little fiddling to get a truly excellent shot. Things you count on for a good non-pressurized basket shot won't work the same way. So a lighter tamp may be all it takes or maybe it will need a thicker grind as well. Typically the finer the grind the more chances of a sour shot in a pressurized setup as it will take longer to pull. The benefit comes that once you figure it out repeatable results are a breeze and take almost no effort. Let us know how it works out and I apologize if I've over complicated it with my words. 😔
@@genesishep Yeah, it took a few tries, but I finally got a good shot. I have the same Solis grinder like in this video, and the same beans, but for some reason I had to set mine at 2-3 grind setting to get a good shot going.
For someone new, I would also get a cheep dosing funnel for the portafilter to make it more easy to put the coffee in the basket. You choose the size based on the filter basket diameter. As an example, the Breville uses a 54mm size.
Thank you for making this video!! I’m new to this and have the Bambino Plus. Very helpful information. I’ve pulled a few shots but wasn’t sure which way to go to tweak them so they taste just right.
good video because it addresses how to make a quality shot with pressurized baskets, i.e. entry level espresso machines. too many videos out there that talk about pressurized baskets but they just discredit them saying they are no good for espresso and dont provide any info outside of this. this video provides realistic expectations for coffee lovers who are not necessarily coffee "snobs" (or entry level, soon to be coffee snobs :P )
When has he hated on pressurized baskets? I have seen him explain that the foam created by pressurized baskets isn’t crema and that you will objectively get better coffee from a dialed-in standard basket but that isn’t “hating”.
don't forget when using a pressurized portafilter, it usually has a screen at the bottom of the portafilter, dont forget to take the screen out and clean it every few brews.
Just what I was looking for. I just got a wonderful gift Bambino Plus. Our current setup is a Bonavita drip with a Capresso grinder. I've been using a kitchen scale for it already. Hoping I can keep this setup while starting out. Your team was super helpful as always helping my wife with the purchase. Time to stop by the store to get some fun addons like that knock box
is there a scenario where i could use a single wall basket without a grinder? i usually get my coffee beans from a roastery where i ask them to grind them for me
Pressurized portafilter was where I started. It was Breville Bambino and I usually just bought Bustelo or Llave pre ground because I thought that's what espresso was 😂
how do you even get 16g in most of double shot pressurized baskets? the one I have if I put 16 its mashed up against the top of the machine where the water comes out. What do you do if you can't get that much in there but want good espresso? Just let it draw longer?
Some just don't have enough space. My delonghi has recommended 14g, I can fit about 15 in there just barely because it's a 51mm portafilter. Commercial portafilters are 58mm
@@mangeshinde sure, I bought dubble stanleysteal portafilter, and also diffrent presurized basket with 1 hole on the bottom, and puck screen. I put puck screen first inside potrafilter then basket and coffee and thats it, puck screen help reduce presure from basket so coffee flow normal from portafilter. But im not sure if you cand do this to all coffee makers.
Considering a decent grinder will set you back at least 300 dollars which is more than most people are willing to spend on a coffee machine, let alone a grinder, there's just no better way to get close to espresso on a budget. I love coffee and pressurised baskets have served me well for seven years now, sure I'll be happy to upgrade at this point, but my cheap baskets still delivered better coffee than most people drink at home.
FINALLY someone acknowledging that when you have a pressurized basket the additional pressure created by the basket requires a less firm tamp. So many of these comparison videos with pressurized versus non pressurized baskets tamp both porterfilters to the same degree which ALWAYS results in the pressurized basket producing a sour or less desirable shot.
To properly dial in a non pressurized basket you need to adjust your grind AND your tamp. Doing so will result in a better shot than you realize, even satisfying most non-pressurized snobs. Certainly non pressurized baskets are great if you have the time to play but when you live in a home with multiple individuals and don't have time to fuss around with adjustments every day a pressurized basket can be a godsend.
I save my non pressurized basket for my days off when I can take the time to truly dial in and enjoy a shot. And please don't tell me to just remember my settings because each and every time it's different to some degree, for some reason that only the coffee gods can explain.
I really appreciate this comment, learned a lot
Thanks for the comment. Im using a pressurized portafilter on my Cafe Roma, and my shots are coming out sour. I think im tamping too hard. Tommorow ill try using less pressure and see how it turns out.
@@Katsuya89 Happy to be of help but please remember you may need to take BOTH of the things I mentioned into consideration. While its true that pressurized baskets are "more forgiving" they will still require a little fiddling to get a truly excellent shot. Things you count on for a good non-pressurized basket shot won't work the same way. So a lighter tamp may be all it takes or maybe it will need a thicker grind as well. Typically the finer the grind the more chances of a sour shot in a pressurized setup as it will take longer to pull. The benefit comes that once you figure it out repeatable results are a breeze and take almost no effort.
Let us know how it works out and I apologize if I've over complicated it with my words. 😔
@@genesishep Yeah, it took a few tries, but I finally got a good shot. I have the same Solis grinder like in this video, and the same beans, but for some reason I had to set mine at 2-3 grind setting to get a good shot going.
You're literally not supposed to tamp shots for a pressurised portafilter, just gently level thew coffee, even with your finger is fine.
For someone new, I would also get a cheep dosing funnel for the portafilter to make it more easy to put the coffee in the basket. You choose the size based on the filter basket diameter. As an example, the Breville uses a 54mm size.
Thank you for making this video!! I’m new to this and have the Bambino Plus. Very helpful information. I’ve pulled a few shots but wasn’t sure which way to go to tweak them so they taste just right.
Thanks a ton. Very few care to explain these things for pressurised baskets.
Always happy to help!
Thanks to pressurized basket, I can try a lot of my fav brands of preground coffee with bambino
good video because it addresses how to make a quality shot with pressurized baskets, i.e. entry level espresso machines.
too many videos out there that talk about pressurized baskets but they just discredit them saying they are no good for espresso and dont provide any info outside of this. this video provides realistic expectations for coffee lovers who are not necessarily coffee "snobs" (or entry level, soon to be coffee snobs :P )
I'm not getting the negative comments... Thanks for the vid, very helpful!
Finally a good video! I love James Hoffmann videos but by god that elitism is reeking hating on pressurized portafilters!
When has he hated on pressurized baskets? I have seen him explain that the foam created by pressurized baskets isn’t crema and that you will objectively get better coffee from a dialed-in standard basket but that isn’t “hating”.
Very helpful as I am currently stuck with a PB until I upgrade. Thank you
don't forget when using a pressurized portafilter, it usually has a screen at the bottom of the portafilter, dont forget to take the screen out and clean it every few brews.
Using the pressurized portafilter, is there a recommended pre-infusion time?
Just what I was looking for. I just got a wonderful gift Bambino Plus. Our current setup is a Bonavita drip with a Capresso grinder. I've been using a kitchen scale for it already. Hoping I can keep this setup while starting out. Your team was super helpful as always helping my wife with the purchase. Time to stop by the store to get some fun addons like that knock box
is there a scenario where i could use a single wall basket without a grinder? i usually get my coffee beans from a roastery where i ask them to grind them for me
Pressurized portafilter was where I started. It was Breville Bambino and I usually just bought Bustelo or Llave pre ground because I thought that's what espresso was 😂
They are in the convenient sense but their flavor is a bit muted IMO
My plus came with single and double wall baskets. Any recommendation on which to use with a similar grinder?
Thanks so much for this..
No scales during extraction? It was also too fast, sorry!
how do you even get 16g in most of double shot pressurized baskets? the one I have if I put 16 its mashed up against the top of the machine where the water comes out. What do you do if you can't get that much in there but want good espresso? Just let it draw longer?
Some just don't have enough space. My delonghi has recommended 14g, I can fit about 15 in there just barely because it's a 51mm portafilter. Commercial portafilters are 58mm
one think i don't like in presurized portafilters is plastic parts that can leach microplastic to your coffee but I found some solution to that! 😉
could you please share that solution?
@@mangeshinde sure, I bought dubble stanleysteal portafilter, and also diffrent presurized basket with 1 hole on the bottom, and puck screen. I put puck screen first inside potrafilter then basket and coffee and thats it, puck screen help reduce presure from basket so coffee flow normal from portafilter. But im not sure if you cand do this to all coffee makers.
@@mangeshinde ill do video how it looks like and i send u link.
@@luxgameplayspl ohh, that sounds a great idea to use puck screen that way, looking forward to your video. Thanks.
@@mangeshinde i replay to you with the link to video but they delated coment. I guess i can't put links in comments
Many of the comments & personal recommendation I read are unreliable. Many are confusing pressurized & unpressurized basket.
Where is Allie? I want Allie
nice info, but way too painful too watch, this needs a v2.0 edited to 1/3 of the time it took and a bit of reharsal
Just say no to pressurized portafilters.
Considering a decent grinder will set you back at least 300 dollars which is more than most people are willing to spend on a coffee machine, let alone a grinder, there's just no better way to get close to espresso on a budget.
I love coffee and pressurised baskets have served me well for seven years now, sure I'll be happy to upgrade at this point, but my cheap baskets still delivered better coffee than most people drink at home.