As a mechanical engineer, I say the Rope Runner Pro isn't engineered that well - it could easily be better. Like having slick pins that rotate in the RR Pro aluminum body. The Vertec looks better to me, as long as those spring pins hold up. Being able to adjust the friction easily looks useful, especially for me. I'm a heavier climber and so I have to pay more attention to adjustments to where I have enough friction but not too much that the RR is too hard to release. I wonder what happened to the Buckingham descender or the to-be-updated Unicender. Oh, I thought the big pulley on the bottom of the RR Pro was a good thing. It would be nice if it was a one-way pulley. Big diameter for pulling out slack or using with a hand ascender with pulley, but the clutch to provide more friction when going down. I need more friction at the lower part of the RR Pro so that the top section doesn't have to lock on so hard.
Just got mine today. I love it. Substantial upgrades from the pro in my opinion. Definitely worth the upgrade to anyone on the fence. My unboxing was almost identical to VTS.
I like the easily adjustable friction mechanism. Instead of having to push the rope through the head of the bird and past the pin the upper side plate swings out of the way.
Zigzag is not midline attachable and most likely will want a chicane for srt which also requires Petzl OK carabiners. Would only use the Zigzag for drt personally.
Yep, it's a rope runner but to be fair the friction adjustment on the other RR was too fiddly for me to ever bother running one to begin with so it has that going for it but I still prefer my prusik and wrench for if I feel the need to go single line. I liked that I could throw it on the wrapter and work off that rope which is not as easy with my prusik set up in the air.
@@VeteranTreeService Really? That exactly what I predicted about the RR and why I never really wanted to try it. I just wish this new one would have used the same design as the apex wrench, so easy to adjust in the tree!
It’s cool but ehhhhh it’s not for me. Not sure I completely trust my rrp 2 😂 not to mention it’s a notch product and I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets recalled by next month lol. Nice video👍🏻
Almost looks like they beefed up the side plates a little? I’ve side loaded my RRP while choked a little tight on a spar and it creeped me out. I want to know how the new push buttons work when they get some man glitter and sap worked into them… The top of the crane looks a bit more finger friendly, I know some people complained about sore fingers from the crane and a sore hand from the top slick pin after using the RRP all day, it hasn’t been an issue for me but my climbs are typically short.
@VeteranTreeService also ethanol is good for sap too. It's what Teufelberger recommends for ropes. Wd40 after on your bird spring for longevity and reliability
Looks nice I've never used the Rope Runner Pro the zig-zag I use all the time and I also use the unicender I wish you would have tried out the unicender I don't know if you have before if you have what is your opinion I love the uni
I used it for a quick minute. I just remember liking the rope runner more. I think I had to use both hands to repel down the tree. But idk if I was using it correctly.
@VeteranTreeService yeah you can use one hand to repel on the uni but everybody likes their own thing the Rope Runner Pro I would love to try one day God bless
not really impressed with any of the new devices that came out this year, from buckingham, notch or rock exotica’s new version of the akimbo, l think l’ll wait for rock exotica to come out with an upgraded version of the unicender (hopefully with a built in pulley🤞🏼).
As a mechanical engineer, I say the Rope Runner Pro isn't engineered that well - it could easily be better. Like having slick pins that rotate in the RR Pro aluminum body. The Vertec looks better to me, as long as those spring pins hold up. Being able to adjust the friction easily looks useful, especially for me. I'm a heavier climber and so I have to pay more attention to adjustments to where I have enough friction but not too much that the RR is too hard to release. I wonder what happened to the Buckingham descender or the to-be-updated Unicender. Oh, I thought the big pulley on the bottom of the RR Pro was a good thing. It would be nice if it was a one-way pulley. Big diameter for pulling out slack or using with a hand ascender with pulley, but the clutch to provide more friction when going down. I need more friction at the lower part of the RR Pro so that the top section doesn't have to lock on so hard.
Buckingham Throttle is coming out late April 2025 last I heard.
What do you think about the Akimbo?
@@NealZ31 I've never used one. 🤷♂️
I was waiting for someone to do a review on this
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Just got mine today. I love it. Substantial upgrades from the pro in my opinion.
Definitely worth the upgrade to anyone on the fence.
My unboxing was almost identical to VTS.
@@YourOutdoorOasis no regrets here. At least, not yet. I haven't put it through the gauntlet yet.
put a stopper in the end of that rope asap.
You're no fun. 😉
@@VeteranTreeService. You already have a stopper, the ground.😮
I like the easily adjustable friction mechanism. Instead of having to push the rope through the head of the bird and past the pin the upper side plate swings out of the way.
"here's what happens when you run out of rope..." literally made me laugh out loud 😆
Let me guess... Made in Taiwan. So, thank you Taiwan - your quality does not disappoint.
It's cool, but I paid $300 for my purple edition RRP. I don't like the big price increase. I might just get another RRP when they go on sale.
What's better this RRV or the petzel zigzag
Zigzag is not midline attachable and most likely will want a chicane for srt which also requires Petzl OK carabiners. Would only use the Zigzag for drt personally.
Yep, it's a rope runner but to be fair the friction adjustment on the other RR was too fiddly for me to ever bother running one to begin with so it has that going for it but I still prefer my prusik and wrench for if I feel the need to go single line. I liked that I could throw it on the wrapter and work off that rope which is not as easy with my prusik set up in the air.
The friction adjustment on the RR pro would move on me over time. I'd have to readjust it periodically. I guess that is eliminated on the vertec.
@@VeteranTreeService Really? That exactly what I predicted about the RR and why I never really wanted to try it. I just wish this new one would have used the same design as the apex wrench, so easy to adjust in the tree!
one of the biggest differences is the price.😊
What do you think? Worth replacing the Rope Runner Pro?
Ya beat me to this 😂😂 sick rig i been running a zig zag kinda wanna play with something different mine hasn’t shown up yet
@Sappysolutionstreecare RUclips will be flooded with vertec reviews soon I'm sure. 👍
@@VeteranTreeService oh yeah for sure
It’s cool but ehhhhh it’s not for me. Not sure I completely trust my rrp 2 😂 not to mention it’s a notch product and I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets recalled by next month lol. Nice video👍🏻
My only question is…
why is it the same color as the akimbo slice?
Hai ! How much and how to use the RRP , cause i am not professional climber, bro..❤
Almost looks like they beefed up the side plates a little?
I’ve side loaded my RRP while choked a little tight on a spar and it creeped me out.
I want to know how the new push buttons work when they get some man glitter and sap worked into them…
The top of the crane looks a bit more finger friendly, I know some people complained about sore fingers from the crane and a sore hand from the top slick pin after using the RRP all day, it hasn’t been an issue for me but my climbs are typically short.
Same concern I have. What happens when the spring pins get gummed up. We'll see.
I wonder how much side loading or twisting it would take to pop the side plates off the push buttons
Need a HowNot2 video on all these tree climbing ascenders
notch recommends wd 40 to clean sap out of the rope runner pro
Interesting. 👍 I'll look into that.
@VeteranTreeService also ethanol is good for sap too. It's what Teufelberger recommends for ropes. Wd40 after on your bird spring for longevity and reliability
@@hrstuck wow. I didn't know that either.
@@hrstuck just no end of uses for ethanol 😜
Looks nice I've never used the Rope Runner Pro the zig-zag I use all the time and I also use the unicender I wish you would have tried out the unicender I don't know if you have before if you have what is your opinion I love the uni
I used it for a quick minute. I just remember liking the rope runner more. I think I had to use both hands to repel down the tree. But idk if I was using it correctly.
@VeteranTreeService yeah you can use one hand to repel on the uni but everybody likes their own thing the Rope Runner Pro I would love to try one day God bless
All mechanical devices can fail unfortunately. I'm old school and believe in knots.
Hitch cord can burn up
Knots can fail too, many a time I’ve had a VT or a Knut not grab after tending, but whatever works for you!
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Rope runner original 👍
Looks like you lions tailed all the branches on the fir. The evergreen tree special
"the evergreen tree special" 😆
not really impressed with any of the new devices that came out this year, from buckingham, notch or rock exotica’s new version of the akimbo, l think l’ll wait for rock exotica to come out with an upgraded version of the unicender (hopefully with a built in pulley🤞🏼).