THE ALL NEURAL DSP AMPS COMPARISON VIDEO 2020
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The Plini always slays. From the Archetype series, Neural got it right the first time. That said, this video is a brilliant example that there is no slouch in the bunch. Choose any and be happy.
I wish I liked the Neural DSP offerings as much as the Kemper patch...
the Nolly 5150 amp is the best to my ears..That crunch is so good in a mix
Bro, this is probably THE best Neural DSP comparison video out there. I've been searching. And damn, EPIC production!
I'm a Mesa guy, through and through, but man, that Nolly Crunch!.
I was waiting for someone to make this. Finally
Granophyre and Nolly (Rythm) for me. They sound absolutely gnarly. Thank you for making this, you did a proper job bro!
I just ripped these tones in Bias Amp 2 (amp match) straight from the video...
Technology is fun.
😳
@@ColorSkyMusic No worries, I ended up buying like 80% of the Neural DSP catalogue since this comment lmaooo.
Neural is the best.
@@auxorion haha i agree, but I was like "Mick Gordon chainsaw tone here I come" 🤣
This is epic! Really appreciate the comparison...now I want them all lol
They all server a purpose, i have been collecting them one by one
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Really good video, thanx! I'd love to see an update with the latest plugin - Fortin Cali. Cheers :)
Once you've got everything quad tracked like this and stuck in a mix, the differences become pretty minor, in my opinion. All sound basically 'equally' good in my opinion, despite some minor tonal characteristic differences.
Abasi Rhythm has some extra fattness, extra harmonic content I like. Makes it stand out!
That's why I keep picking the Abasi when A/B-ing it against the others. It just sounds so full and rich.
Figuring out how to dial in the gain between the pathos and amp for a little more crunch, and the mic placement to smooth out some high end noise and it's my favorite now.
I think it's the most versatile, and worth the extra work to get it just right
@@chrisstrong3748 I know that feeling then you nail a purfect tone!
I demoed the Abasi, plini and Cali. I liked the cali the best.. it sounded the tightest of them all . But I admit I didnt do a crap ton of tweaking .
@@jayz6008 Cali is amazing too. Probably my favorite single amp from Neural. Pairs really well with Abasi or Plini too
Thank you very much for this video. I have the Fortin, Nolly and Plini. You show me that i still have the right ones. Plini and Fortin sounding the best. I combine it always with Engl Fireball and an Isocab.
Now you gotta do this for the Fortin Cali! Really thorough demo. Excellent job.
Thanks for making this video. Very well done comparison! Was a big help in narrowing down the playing field. I definitely like the Nameless, Omega, and Plini most out of the bunch. Hmmm. Now comes the hard part of picking which of those three to get.
Plini overall for the win. Nolly a close 2nd.
I agree with plini being the best but I thought the nolly one sounded bad.
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Love this video man! Great work - just the type of riffing I wanted to hear these amp sims compared with :)
A comparison doesn't help when you make people want them all! Nice job
Good review man although you left out the Fortin Cali!
When I'm cooking I have the monitors behind me blasting the basses into the room. This is the best way to feel and hear the pressure of the cabs/amps. Not knowing wich amp was running the Kemper gave the most umpf. Second place the Abasi. While the Plini sounded the best to me in front of the speakers it had almost no umpf at all behind them.
That’s why it’ll sit hella nicely in the mix, nice room for the bass.
The Fortin Cali is a great one too!
My Favourite Neural DSP Plugins In Order + Why
btw i'm a deathmetal kinda guy
1-Nolly
-5150 amp
-EQ, pedals, nice IRs
2-Omega Granophyre
-Fullest sounding amp and great for deathmetal
-Great IRs
3-Fortin Cali
-Nice Modern Classic sound and is great for thrash and deathmetal
-Very aggressive and responsive to pick attack, without being too scratchy
4-Fortin NTS
-Good all round metal tones
5-Abasi
-Complete suite
6-Plini
-Complete suite
7-Fortin Nameless
-Nice amp for some style but not versitile enough.
-Doesn't do deathmetal well
-Very scratchy
Interesting. For me the Nolly sounded the worst in that comparison. But I really am in love with the Granophyre, especially the KT66 tubes version
The best is still the Kemper to my ears. Neural DSP have made some good progress in the recent year though but it's not quite there yet IMO. There's something wrong with the cab resonance on the pick attack. They are not bad but for pro recordings I would still use a Kemper, Helix or Axe-Fx over these but for the price it's a great deal. Good job by the way!
what a good video dude! my opinion replace that kemper sound to a Neural DSP they sound way better. Love the riff dude.. gr Anibal
I've come.back a year later, and that Nolly Rhythm really tickles me in all the right places!. Haha. With their 50% sale, I'm getting getting Nolly suite!.
I loved the first plini, and the NTS red.
Nameless for the win, Plini (Lead) a juicy second. Thanks for doing this!
Good video. I think it's not about which one is better, each one has a different timbre of sound, which can be used in different aspects
Thanks for keeping the mics consistent for the sake of the demo. Were the onboard overdrive pedals consistent as well? I know a lot of the plugins, if not all of them, have different pedal options.
Great comparison! Awesome riff. Just bought the song. 🤘
So hard to pick between Cali and Nolly... Even Plini sounds amazing !
Zieke video man! Ik dacht al aan je accent te horen dat je nederlands bent. Tof kanaal!
Hello Dude, that video requires massive effort. Appriciate it totally!!
Plini is perfect.
Granophyre KT66 was my favorite.
Going with the Abasi!
What guitar are you using and what pickups (brand/ active/ passive)? Is it drop tuned? Others might be interested, please put in the description... Great riffs, excellent review, thanks for the comparison!!!
B standard tuning; This was my Carillion Batman guitar with Fishmans Keith Merrow Pickups.
Love the Nolly here. It’s so flexible. Update this to include the new Neural Fortin Cali plugin? Good mix for comparison. 👍
These are some fire riffs!
Dude thank you very much for this, pure gold!
Great Comparison! I think I like the Plini the most. Thanks!
Didn't know the Plini could be so Metal!!
great comparison mendel, thank you very much!
KPA sounds more hi-fi than the other clips both alone and in the mix, but the rest are not bad at all, especially the Fortin and Plini which have amp-like resonance thanks to the nice cab sim IR. I see myself can definitely use these plugins in recordings.
PANCHITO13 nameless. Actually with some good ir any amp sim can sound good guaranteed lol.
They all have their unique tones,, what really helps with that, are those Fishman Fluence pickups🤘
Game changer for metal guitars....
IMO
Awesome video, and great work! I would say, slacken up on the noise gate a little bit. It's just a bit choppy. Again, great work!
That Omega is giving me 2000s In Flames vibes.
Hey man, awesome riff and great comparison overall. Did you use the same impulse response for all the amps?
Dude great TONES!!!! Great video!!!
Great review!!! Love your music too!
Well done. Very good review!
Really nice information ! Thank you! Question: On your recorded tracks you mentioned two cabs. Each of the four tracks has both cabs or you do some left/right sort of thing?
Each track has both cabs: Mesa and Bogner per track. It’s Cab 1 from my Mendel IR Pack Vol. 1
Awesome, thanks for this.
Thanks for the comparison! Please share the IR! :P
Nice video 🤘I like Ur drums is it superior drummer 3 ??
Metal Foundry?? What ur eq settings for kick Thanks
Great video !
Awesome vid. What are the drums plugin here btw?
Nothing like a real amp
If you are not using the same ir you are not comparing the amp models. What you did is a comparison between the products. The IRs sound drastically different between them. So in order to demonstrate differences between the amps you should switch off the cabinets and run them on an external ir.
If i'd do that there would barely be significant differences; besides the amps the most impact on a tone is the cab. So by keeping on each of their own cabs you can compare the difference. Indeed: It's a comparison between the products.
@@Mendelian I think that most guitarists fail to see the importance of the cab. That is why I commented in order to increase awareness on the fact. I am sure you know what you are doing. Nice riff by the way!
Thank you!
Great video! Love your playing Cheers! There is a mid high frequency hum at the tail end of muted notes before the noise gate catches when on higher gain tones. It sounds like the computer cpu or maybe a ground issue in the home. i notice the same thing when recording with these plugins. i love the sound so i'm really trying hard to figure out how to fix it. does this happen with other gear or plugins? or is it an audio interface issue? what do you think?
Thanks for the awesome video!
I get exactly the same noise and it’s been driving me crazy for ages! Never been able to get rid of it and it stops me playing dynamically as any time I play lightly eg palm mutes or a build up type of thing, the noise overpowers the guitar! Tried USB isolator, shielded cables, different power outlets in the house amongst other things. What do you mean by computer CPU and can anything be done about it? For me it seems like the noise is interference being emitted from the PC.
If I plug my interface into my iPhone and use JamUp or Bias FX mobile I don’t get that noise.
Thank you ;-)
I don’t know? They all kind of sound very similar. Seems like I could get the same tone with any of them and then add post processing to control transients and EQ? I only own and love the Cali for guitar and the Parallax for bass.
Super vet dude :D
Hey! This drums sounds crazy! Can you tell me which is the plugin you have used for it?? Thank you very much for you work! It’s awesome!
Toontrack SD3
Thanks can you send me de preset?
It’s not a preset unfortunatly haha, i route everything to channels and mix it myself in Cubase
Bud can you teach me how to record my screen and audio like this? Loved this video, i'd like to record my mixing
OSB and Mrecorder:)
@@Mendelian OBS
hey man is that kemper profile available for purchase? loved the tone!
It’s still in the works! The Mendel Kemper Pack
Do you have any delays from hard left/right panning for stereo separation happening? (10ms or so? between left and right) Just curious
Nope
Love the Omega and that Nolly 5150 (3rd) amp!!! The Abasi sucks!
Wish you will teach us how to make that plugin sounds huge !
Which one?
iseeu1980 ; well my favourite is NTS, but i just want to know about what he does to get that rich tones
I liked the Plini crunch the best
I'm stuck between getting the Nolly and the Omega
Get both! I have both love em
The time codes are not in the bio, just affiliate links.
Will fix when I have time, apologies.
How do you use one plugin but it sounds in stereo... and the plugins looks on mono mode
Alle the Neural sound much much better than the kemper
Dude, PLEASE do one over the Lead tone...I liked the Abasi and KPA the best \m/
What EQ treatment in post are they getting? Because they absolutely don't sound like that out of the gate.
No post treatment
all sounds incredible, i think the secret is that pickups....
I’m having major latency problems with these plugins. Does anyone have any advice on how to decrease the latency?
I can hear the tone, which sounds fantastic, but it’s very hard for practice and would be nearly impossible for recordings.
Hey! First my latency was like 60ms because the PC's built-in audio handling converts analogue to digital and back to analogue very slowly, the only solution was to purchase an external audio interface - i got the Focusrite 2i2. Then you plug the guitar and the speakers to the itnerface. With a bandwitch of 64 in FL studio, now i have a latency of 7ms, which is really good for real-time playing and recording
Are you using your irs? What number ? 👀
besides the really awesome review of the amps, either your noise gate is pretty bad set up, or the audio is cut in DAW, it's really some heavy audio cut-offs there ;) (also prefer the kemper btw)
In the DAW you see that he cut out silent project regions. Good in the mix but for showing the isolated guitars it sounds...ehm...pretty peculiar.
I like these plugins, but I really don't see the interest in spending over 100 bucks for something that, with the right IR, doesn't sound that much better than a free amp sim... Just my 2 cents.
Idk man, what amp sim are you using? I have the plini and im getting the Cali Fortin this week.
@@Jack-sk3we I tried the demo version for the Nolly one. I mean, it's very good, and I like the sounds you get, but I still prefer to use it through a free IR. If I compare it to the Lecto from Lepou or the Nalex Ninja, it's not really better. It's different, but not in a way that makes me scream like it's a miracle. I'm not saying that the DSP plugins are snake oil, I'm just saying that I can get a very good sound out of a free amp sim without spending big bucks that I could invest in better hardware. Expecially being that, in a mix, the difference is even more subtle. That said, it's just my humble opinion. 😊
@@mvyper You've got a very good point here. The impulse response is going to be a HUGE part of the tone. That being said, the built in cab system in all of these is pretty spectacular.
In terms of external IR libraries, what are your favorites?
@@vikingguitar I'm really liking heavy hitters 1 by own hammer. Also, some of the cabs in the Mesa boogie pack from 2 notes are quite good!
Talking about free ones, the God's cabs library is actually very exciting.
Are your settings for the Omega on default? If not could you upload the preset you are using?
Greedy Rick You can see the parameters i used in the video :)! Didn’t change too much
The time codes arnt clickable?
If you were to choose only one, what would you choose?
Nolly - For the variety and comprehensiveness. Granophyre - For the fullness and overall amp tone, if you don't need a fully suite and only amt an amp.
But now that the Cali is out, i'm cusious to see how that would sound along side the Granophyre.
You have the coolest name after Elon Musk's Son
Am i blind - i dont see the time stamps to a/b anywhere...?
Apologies, i’ll re-import them asap in the description box.
@@Mendelian Two months later.... still no.
kemper wins for me ,sound more real for some reason i think
Thank you for this awesome comparision!
How does he change the sound of all 4 tracks by only changing the plugin settings of DI track 1? (ruclips.net/video/_mQh2CTYbDI/видео.html)
Sorry if this is a dump question.
dude. Nolly plugin. the d-word preset. thank me later
I like Air Raid. I started there and switched from Cab 3 to cab 2 and was practically done
Sorry: Cali smokes all of them.
Is it just me being a smug jerk or is there a new breed of nerd hipster math metal dudes with guitars and plugins?
Not much of a riff
Not much of a comment.
Sir, I LOVE your music but...I'm a little saddened at how it is manufactured/assembled. As with CGI, it is pushing us more and more into a Marix-like future, where performers (live shows) are not even needed and we live life virtually, this now accelerated by the "tough times" you mention. "Brave New World" indeed...