I wonder why many people don't know that. When you ask for a refund the webform explicitly asks where you want to refund to. It's not like it refunds to steam wallet by default and you have to click some weird button to ask for refund to credit card.
@@xXRealXx Not necessarily. It depends on if you already had wallet funds or not. From personal experience, I usually bought games with Steam Wallet funds, which is why it's that way in the video. It is true that you can refund it if you purchase it directly yes
Gosh, this happened to me a year ago after I learnt that you can customise GNOME (and Linux in general). Now I'm learning User Interface design, and using Hyprland as my Window Manager.
@@ivoryowl It has specific kernel level alterations and preinstalls geared specifically towards gaming. Be warned: it's a definitive YMMV distro. It kept locking our screen up post installs so We abandoned it.
As a gamer and a Linux user for 15+ years , when I started my transition games were mostly unplayable and over time more & more games started playing nice. Today any game with anti-cheat that requires ring-0 access to my system it essential get blacklisted in my book and I never look at them again, they are essential malware. There is no reason for something with this much access on my system.
Exactly. If they want to put a process running at the kernel level, they'd better make it at least source available or it isn't going to be installed on my system EVER.
Same here. Installing Riot's anti-cheat requires so much trust in that company. Even if you can manage to trust them hackers can still target it like what happened with Genshin.
@@Fiveward Genshin's anticheat was not bypassed and used as a backdoor though. An old version of the anti-cheat was packaged with alleged primogem generator programs in Russia to fool users into thinking it was legitimate by using an already verified dll file. This has literally happened for two decades now.
It's been almost 3 years since i migrated entirely to Linux and it's been almost a year and a half since i eliminated dual boot, it doesn't make sense.
@MRDeu I literally just got my first laptop with no OS, the Framework Laptop 16, after using a dual-boot with Windows 10 then 11 but actually booting into Windows. My Framework Laptop 16 ONLY runs Linux, and I just used fwupd to update the UEFI, no Windows required. Any company that offically supports Linux and has modern features like a 16 : 10 screen is higher on my list than a comparable Windows only laptop. Sadly, many Linux first laptops don't have touch screens or even 16 : 10 screens, but that is slowly changing.
@@reikanou-issenI mean if you're Distro Hopping you probably set you're Boot Partition to 1/4th or 1/8th of you're Boot Drive and thus you don't have to Wipe the Whole Drive when Distro Hopping just The Boot Partition. Honestly you do the same with Windows. In Partition Wizard just Shrink the Partition and reformat the Rest of the Drive.
@@mistyfaderia I don't know much about that version of Windows but the "iot" suggests that version is for very low end embedded devices like smart thermostats.
I started testing out Linux Mint in 2021. When Elden Ring was released, I gave it a try and found that it work! That convinced me to take the plunge. I built my new main desktop as a pure Linux machine with no dual boot. I am never going back to the spyware called Windows again.
Did that myself two years earlier. Had a hardware failure, and as the end of support for Windows 7 was less than a year away, I just went straight to Linux Mint with the MATE desktop, rather than going through the hassle of installing Windows again for only a year of use. Was prepared to lose access to a bunch of games, but was pleasantly surprised at how good Proton was, even back then. Also found I'm less annoyed since making the move. It's like there's a hundred little things you don't really notice that are done better than on Windows.
@@matheusbelmar6699 They are probably talking about Microsoft AI Co pilot and other Spyware/Malware Parts of Windows 10 and 11. Heck Win 10/11 sends a copy of ALL your image & video thumbnails to microsoft every 12 hours even if they are unused old photos left in some unencrypted zip.
I hold a similar opinion now. I used to hate that some games refused to make their games compatible with linux, especially due to anticheats. Nowadays, I just don't play them. The only situation in which I play these kinds of games is when a friend wants to play together. In that case I just boot up windows, which happens quite rarely nowadays. Ironically, 90% of the time I boot up windows is because of MS Office, not games.
MS Office is definitely still the gold standard. If you haven't tried it though I really recommend OnlyOffice. I've been very impressed with how clean and well designed it is.
Open Office or Softmake Office are free and have great compatibilty with MS Office. If I really need to make sure compatability is great, I use the free online version of MS Office.
@@POLARICEEE Indeed. Though like I said I mainly use it for ms office or if a friend of mine wants to play a game that doesnt work on linux. I did not notice any major slow downs in games besides space engineers. You do sometimes encounter bugs, but most games are playable. I assume gaming under linux is going to be a bit slower considering all the stuff involved (DXVK, wine syscall translation, gamescope if you use that), but it's not noticeable unless you measure it.
Windows games were made for Windows. Windows games are not supposed to run on Linux. We made it work anyway. So yeah, hiccups are to be expected, but we made so many games just work. That's impressive work.
Always remember that Wine/Proton is 30 years of active development. It's insanely impressive. I mean if a Windows game doesn't work on Linux these days, I'm not thinking it's impossible but maybe it works next month.
My only straw is that I usually download some niche, sometimes not from steam games hidden in the far corner of internet. They work on windows, but I'm afraid of the compatibility issues that linux would have. I guess another 10 years before a complete accurate experience.
@@Pleiades_Erret There are over 26000 games reported to ProtonDB. From those over 73% work without any or only with minor issues out of the box. So statistically speaking even very niche games have a much better chance to work than flipping a coin. Also keep in mind that most work on Wine and Proton is not targeting specific known games but issues in used APIs. So unless your niche games use any fancy and unknown dependencies, they will likely work. But if they don't, it would be much better to report it now than waiting 10 years before noticing any issues. Those niche games will definitely fix themselves on Linux if they should have any problem.
@@Pleiades_Erret Steam Proton is a game changer. It can run just about any windows game you can think of. The future is already here. I stopped using windows six months ago and daily drive my linux mint. I've never regretted it, life is good.
Desktop-only for me. Would have bought a Steam Deck when it was new, but it wasn't available in Australia, _and still isn't._ Hardware availability is not one of Valve's strong points.
Linux gaming has come a long way and turned out really good. I remember back in 2012 playing windows games was a literal pain the butt. The fact that now you can run steam games and install steam almost without difficulties depending on the distro gives you lots of hope. Also lots of games runs even better on Linux right now. I was honestly surprised by Fallout 4, Skyrim and Doom Eternal. Even newer games like Palworld or Monster Hunter Iceborn. They can't ignore the most important fact here, which is that u're still buying them legally on Linux.
Steam works on every single distro completely without issues, because of the Steam Linux Runtime, which runs Steam in an Ubuntu container no matter the distro. This makes it more secure than the MacOS and Windows versions, as everything is ran with OS-Level virtualisation
@@nasimfaheemalquadir True enough but some distros require you to do a little digging before installing it. Good luck trying "sudo pacman -S steam" without the multilib enabled for example. For new users it can be an issue.
Been using linux at home since 2000. I did not play many many games. Then, at the end of 2021, proton got my attention, and I started playing. Your take on games using ring 0 'anti cheat' mirrors mine. Its just a matter of time till one the these companies are hacked and the hackers figure out how to use the 'anti cheat' as a back door.... With good instrumentation in games, along with a good stats package, it should be possible to find cheaters without all the garbage vendors like to throw at us.
The ONLY way I'd play a game with kernel level anti-cheat is to have a separate PC (or at least duel booted) that is ONLY used for those games and absolutely nothing personal.. I'm lucky though, that I don't tend to play online competitive games that are the targets for anti-cheat and am very impressed with how far Linux gaming has come in the last few years. I'm with you in that before I buy a game, I make sure it works on Linux and support games that don't try to purposely not work on Linux. I have a decent sized game catalog, so I don't need to play all the new stuff. :)
Same here, I have too many games in my Steam library anyhow. I got them for dirt cheap on the Russian steam market when I lived there. On the seasonal sales some games were cheaper than a beer at the bar.
The only way I'd even let it on ANY computer I own is to have the source publicly available and also audited by a group of trusted cyber security researchers. I think Vanguard even disallows VMs and dual booting. Guess what WON'T be on any computer I own?
@@studiogabrielevarano As a 12 year League veteran I retired last season when I found out the new ranked system is intentionally designed against the player base as a whole by forcing players to play 10x what is needed in order to disingenuously create the illusion of competitiveness. How? The developers themselves claim their newest matchmaking “AI monitoring” code aims to balance all players to precise 50% win/loss ratio, which forces players to stay in their rank tiers for significantly longer periods systematically-They do this to coercively maximize average user game-time, which increases popularity of the game and overall revue. This is an evil scam and abusive against the players. I refuse to support a developer like Riot that willfully extorts players and psychologically exploits children for monetary Greed. ❤️
Since a Level-0 anticheat is running in the background all the time, probably collecting data aswell and sending it to the company behind it, wouldn't it be a major privacy-invasion which should be possible to ban such software from people's PC's by (at least in Europe) strengthen the GDPR? I mean having a driver installed on my system without my consent, would be very creepy, if I had no idea that it's running all the time. 🤔
The problem is that you technically consent to it. Even if Vanguard started taking more measures on your system like blocking certain hardware, you technically agreed to it. The EU will only interact, if there is actual evidence of a market power benefitting from it directly.
Thanks for all your gaming on Linux updates! These are my favorites along with your videos on how to get stuff like Davinci Resolve and other annoying apps running well on Linux. I still dual boot for Destiny and other live service games because it's a way for my friends and I to still hang out and catch up with each other. One day I'm sure we'll find something else that's more Linux friendly, and I can finally stick with Linux full time.
@dreaper5813 How are you forced into playing quality games if generally most games already do work on linux? There is so much slop you could play right now on linux with proton. Also, a user who is tech savvy enough to be able to install any linux distro, could just install a debloated version of windows ltsc without any of M$ crap, and have more choices in what they can play. I agree on helldivers, it's pretty fun with friends, but it's pretty buggy/unstable and runs like crap both on windows and linux.
@dreaper5813Heck, Riot has been owned by Tencent, a Chinese company, since 2010 (or maybe 2009, I'm not sure). No wonder they feeblely attempt to justify installing a rootkit to play two games. That doesn't fly and wouldn't fly ever for me. I never support games that actively block Wine/Proton. If they don't officially support Linux or the Steam Deck but don't try to screw over Linux gamers and let them play, I'm fine with that. My problem is when they don't.
I mean, it's also bad advice to give one company near total control over the desktop marketplace but here we are. Competition is good, until that competition is against the dominant OS market player, then people default to their Stockholm syndrome.
The issue with using probability for anti cheat is that you will catch the players that are really good at your game and end up going pro. You never want to ban someone based on a probability
Not really. The probability method that I'm talking about doesn't span across the whole game, like calculating headshot percentages and all that. What I mean is stuff like, how likely is it to kill people 2 seconds after spawning across the whole map with a gun and this sort of thing. Or in the case of CS2, how likely is it, that someone fires a sniper rifle (scout) in some burst mode (which is technically impossible). It's about detecting the cheaters that are cheating as obvious as possible, and not just banning someone who has a high kill count
This makes more sense than the way you presented it in the video. To go with the example you gave, what devs should do is make honey traps, like making the rapid fire scout technically possible, but impossible without external help, and ban, or atleast trigger manual review, for those players. It shouldn't be used in a case of this flick was wicked fast, lets trigger a review, because some people will just be that fast. If you check the probability of because super quick and accurate, you will catch edge cases of people either messing around or really good, as we saw when valve banned people for just spinning with high dpi.
Last night we set up our VERY first Linux-based PC with the sole purpose of media and gaming (thanks to your how-to). Tonight, we game. Very much looking forward to it and the freedom from M$.
I can relate but since I do this basically since the Windows 7 days, I feel like I actually missed on quite a bunch of games that I would have enjoyed on PC normally. Oh well... there's still my second drive with Windows on it for those VR games and other than that, I mostly play Mario Kart and Splatoon online anyway.
@@xrafter Why should it? Splatoon 3 is still actively played by many many people and Splatoon 1 is back online thanks to the Pretendo project. Also some folks still play S2.
Great video! As a Linux gamer myself, I still think it would be better if more games would be available but I also noticed that finding alternatives hasn't been as difficult as people think. There are a lot of great games out there which work great on Linux. Maybe there will be a valid solution to fight cheating without interfering with peoples privacy or control over their own system. So we can get more cross-compatible competitive online games.
As far as quantity of games goes, I don't think there's anything to worry about. Between DOSBox, Steam, and the odd emulator, I've got more than I can play.
@@Roxor128 Yeah, quantity is pretty good. For some older games Proton or Wine can even be the better option over running them on Windows. Because modern Windows can have compatibility issues as well and older graphics APIs don't get any updates there anymore.
As the tech support guy for my friends, I now refuse to do tech support for Windows. If they want my help, they have to move to Linux. This has gone surprisingly well.
@@no.no.4680 which is not a bad thing. More free time for him and more tech support price knowledge for his friends. I did that with my relatives many years ago, some get converted to Mint and I help them, the others struggles.
Theoretically you shouldn't need SteamOS since there are a lot of good Linux distributions out there to choose from. But I assume it would help if gamers had a company like Valve behind such a distribution for PC. They probably wait until they think support for Nvidia GPUs is reliable enough for their audience since they can't control what PC configuration it gets installed on.
My games aren't that heavy, so I was happy to transition to Linux a month ago. The only thing that sticks out for me is the lack of a very good alternative to Microsoft Office.
@@fearsmasher1299 I've tried OpenOffice and Softmaker Office. Both are fine, with Softmaker being a tad bit more intuitive for me, but in Spreadsheets, both are quite lacking. So, I just use WPS, but it's so outdated.
Factorio works awesome in Linux, so does self hosting a multiplayer Linux VM server from a Linux hypervisor forwarded from Linux driven network switches attached to a Linux firewall.
Self hosting is really fun if you have the hardware for it. I myself tried it, but it was eventually bottlenecked by my Internet Connection (Private VPN that is)
Look at well... Minecraft. The servers all use server side anticheats. Most of them are trash, but some of them are really good. You don't need client-side AC's.
I like keeping updated with Linux gaming. I hope that someday it will be viable for me, since i don't really like the direction Windows is heading. My main problem is that i play a MMO that has an anit-cheat that is not compatible, a gamepad i use that only has a windows app to customize it, and i really like Minecraft and some of the people i play with only use the Bedrock version. But, i am hopeful that eventually with the steam deck encouraging compatibility with games that Linux might eventually be a good mainstream gaming OS.
Back around 2001 I thought the year of the linux desktop was just around the corner. Joking aside though, a lot of people did actually, and for good reason, it was objectively better in a lot of very real tangible ways, most people were still on win98 after all. You had Loki Software trying to make a business out of porting games to linux, and for a number of years I was exclusively on linux thanks to that, Civ 3 and Tribes 2 for example. Fun fact: Loki was the original developer of libSDL, which they made to help their effort in porting Civ3. It's been used by many things since, including Stardew Valley. I'm really glad to see the renewed attention to desktop linux, mostly thanks to Steam/Valve/Proton bringing in some of the gaming userbase. A lot of people in the linux world don't fully appreciate that most people don't use computers just for the hell of it, we all use computers fundamentally to run applications we want or need to run, and if the OS can't do that, then that's really the end of the discussion. The reality is that the year of the linux desktop cannot occur until linux has 100% binary compatibility with windows and ideally apple as well.
Linux phones should be completely fine as they have Waydroid which can run a whole Android GUI and apps in. And they also have the beautiful GNOME-based Desktop Environment, PhoSH
You're right. Even if I spend my whole life playing games on Linux, I'll never run out of options. So, I have no problem avoiding games from developers and publishers who are hostile to Linux.
I recently switched to Linux full time. I'm running Ubuntu and so far I've been getting Steam to play most of my games. For those games that do require anti-cheat I've considered using a Virtual Machine with GPU Pass-through. I'm fortunate that my hardware supports IOmmu and all that jazz... Worst case scenario, I just don't play those games. There are plenty others and at the end of the day I can always get a console or whatever. Great video btw ✌
It has gotten so good now. I'm on Fedora and things are almost perfect. Close enough, anyway. And I prefer it for running emulators and basically everything else. Gnome is hella polished, the system is stable and solid.. My Steam copy of Halo Master Chief Collection works.. I'm a happy camper.
Firstly, game pass is great for people who can afford it but who can't afford buying all the games on there at full price - and who also don't want to wait the months it might take for the game they want to try or play to be discounted on Steam. No reason to bash it. Most people already own more games then they're ever going to play on Steam, and most never finish a game. Passes are great value for money for most gamers. And I'm writing this is a linux gamer that doesn't use any personally. Secondly, at least for some game 2 hours of gameplay is not enough. I'm usually in the character creator for at least one hour for most RPGs and CRPGs I play. And one hour of game play, hell even two, is not enough for a lot of games. It might be enough for Path of Exile or Warframe, but it's not enough for Pathfinder Kingmaker or Tyranny. Steam's 2 hours are a compromise that mainly benefits shorter games. But even then, games like Pilgrims can not only be completed in under 1 hour but can be 100% in less than 2. To say that 2 hours is enough to decide if a game is for you or not is at least in my opinion false.
As an exclusively Mac OS user for about 20yrs who mainly games on consoles, but REALLY WANTS to play "Windows" versions of some games (mainly Skyrim), this is really exciting to hear!! Id rather not "hack" my Mac Pro in order to run Windows effectively in order to game!
Some of the games I mainly want to play are battlefield 2042 and the new MW2. However, the way the games are going (mostly call of duty), I may not want to play them anymore.
I'm a social gamer, so I end up disagreeing. I usually play single player games if any when I'm by myself, but certain games like the finals with friends, would just not be possible anymore. perhaps i'll have one windows ssd, and one linux ssd, but yea. I don't know. your solution doesn't help me when it comes to social circumstances.
I've tried to switch off dual booting, to the kvm/qemu VM , and i've managed with help of 1 random guy that i found on reddit, make not just a gpu passtrough (it was ez for me personally), but the whole "PC passtrough". In short, Fortnite doesn't allow you to play under virtual machine, and i were kicked out without VM modifications while launching the match. After few tweaks, every device been shown in task manager is been named properly, just like all my real stuff is. And i were able to play fortnite without issues, the full match, but there is risk of being banned due to bypassing anticheat. I kinda reccomend it to do, only if you have 2 gpu's (or atleast 1 real gpu, and 1 gpu off the CPU), if only 1 gpu - dont bother, use dual boot.
So if you run Windows 10/11 within a VM to play a multiplayer game that requires anticheat and also have a tweak that lies saying you are not using a VM it will work no problem even with valorant? This tweak is with in the VM or run some program to do that? This is sort of all new to me and wondering about this. Right now I usually run Windows 11 but thinking of installing linux. One game I play tanki online they only ask to run anti-cheat in competions events not for general public matches and runs thru the browser. Thank you for explaining about this.
@@cybernit3 Well, i'm not valorant player, for alot of reasons, so i can't assist you within valorant anticheat which is kernel stuff. In linux, exist QEMU/KVM virtualmachine, and GUI named something like virtmanager. In simple terms, i've tweaked my yaml config of entire virtual machine, in that way, that is passedtrough my entire processor and other devices. (It doesn't mean that linux can't use atleast some of processor while VM is running, linux supposedly working fine with these conditions). So in summary, it's just a cleverly-adjusted config. Altough, during usage of it, I had 1 peculiar bug that was spreaded across all games, i can't describe exactly what it was, but sometimes game would just "run poorly for no reason". So beware of that thing actually might happening. And if you're just starting with linux, dont rush too much with VM without knowing basic's of linux interactions versus windows's. And don't immidiatley seek for "pre-configured VM with anticheat bypass", because it's really requires kinda personal steps to do
The problem is, that you can never really abstract your VM to look like a native machine, as Anti Cheats might try to access resources that are being reserved by the host. As soon as there is some weird hardware combination, like an odd number of cores or not all cores perform like they should, then you might still get banned
Honestly what's happening is microsoft is in control of telling the game developers to only produce games for windows only because in Linux they don't want to risk loosing money because of support of software going to open source.
My games list hit critical mass a few months ago when nearly all of them were linux compatible in some form, did my full switch to Linux Mint LTS and unplugged my Win 10 ssd. The number of game crashes have dropped to nearly zero compared to my Win 10 experience. 🙂👍
@@archip8021 this is not a problem of steam. The PC player base doesn't want to bloat their systems with other launchers that take times and effort to download. Alot of players will end up deleting the launcher after he finish or try the game, but some don't delete the launcher.
This is my personal thoughts about this. Gaming is for kids who have a lot of free time to spend on computers. I always liked games from technical standpoint, I even got xbox 360 to play gta5 and ea skate 3, but after that, I never could do PC gaming, cause consoles were enough for me. Gaming from programming stand point seems much more interesting, cause it's like creating a brand new world, too bad all these game developers want to get paid instead of giving out there games to be fully open source and practical for humanity. Cause, nobody has time to code games from scratch. I hope this changes in the future, were more open source game development and knowledge get's spread out, instead of just more pointless games that I will not play anyway. Gaming has large potential in it's development stage.
There's one reason why I don't play in Linux yet, and has nothing to do with games: I can get everything working, except my Elite Series controllers back paddles via Bluetooth on Steam. I have 3 weeks off soon and hopefully time to look into that. 😅
Another 303 user! ;-) Love that mouse. But: I also switched to Linux for good a little while back and even went for endeavour, which is supposed to be harder than others (arch in general is). It is true, I find it more difficult at times than Ubuntu, but it is manageable. Thank you for mentioning piper. I have used that way back when I first tried to switch a couple of years back and support wasn't great back then, but now both my mice work perfectly (305 and 303).
I tried linux gaming 5-6 years ago, but it was too much to configure (I just want to install a game and play without any configuring). This year I decided to try again. I tried Heroic launcher for Baldurs Gate 3, Divinity Origin 2, Fallout 4, Witcher 3 and Starfield on steam. The games I play now. And boy what a difference, it is just like in Windows, just install and play. No tinkering needed. Currently on Garuda Linux and testing Nobara. It just works! I am gonna test a "immutable" distro too. I just had some hickups with a update on Garuda, although its the first in a year and after over 800 updates, luckily I had the LTS kernel that still works, so it would be nice to have an immutable system. Its been months since I booted up Windows.
I followed the same path quite a few years ago. Dual boot became annoying, most things I wanted seemed to be on linux and I rebooted less and less. I used to reboot just to update windows, but its probably a couple of years since I did that. I had vmware player for non-game windows applications I wanted, but that had some problems a couple of years ago and I never needed it enough to fix it.
It's really unfortunate that most games aren't made cross-platform from the start. I have watched various software engineers start writing game engines from scratch. What I have learned from them is that, if you start the process with cross-platform functionality in mind from the get-go, it is a relatively trivial matter. It just takes a little work at the beginning with the set-up and then the rest of the development flows as usual, with a few housekeeping tasks here and there along the way. This is helped even more if the developers choose to go with open, cross-platform, and/or vendor agnostic technologies (e.g., Vulkan API instead of Direct3D, AMD's GPUOpen open source solutions instead of Nvidia's proprietary solutions, etc.). Also, there are now universal package formats like Flatpak that would make distribution on Linux a non-issue, contrasted with the past, when different distros and their unique package formats and dependencies had to be accounted for.
GeForce Now works because they have a unique identifier passed through the VM as a property which can be used by the game to both identify that you're using GeForce Now and allow you past the anti-cheat, and allow them to uniquely identify you to your GeForce account and ban you. You can make a KVM which emulates physical hardware fairly well and will work for some anti-cheats, but not all.
Now, I'm interested in something. I have a GOG Game being Monkey Island 1 Special Edition(the Remake). For about a year, I've been trying Lutris, DosBox, and even this newer Heroic Launcher. I can never get that single game launched on any Linux OS and it drives me nuts. I am someone who uses both a custom, debloated Windows OSs and Linux Mint OS on seperate drives and seperate computer units. Now, I don't play competitive shooters. I enjoy fantasy games like Elder Scrolls, Star Wars, Zelda, etc. But, I enjoy this video including your other videos on this topic of gaming in Linux. For me, gaming was never an issue cause I use seperate computers or even just consoles to play any game. For me, gaming on Linux has always been more difficult for over a decade until recently. Steam Deck coming out has made it way, WAY better. But, I'm still waiting on these point and click like this certain version of Monkey Island or other niche games I enjoy along with debugging programs I use in Windows for Window machines to get better before I fully switch to Linux.
That's strange. I just started The Secret of Monkey Island™: Special Edition via Steam (with active Steam Compatibility through Proton Experimental) and had no issues starting and running it.
@@CathrineMacNiel WAIT REALLY?!? I own the GOG version. But, I have been using the Heroic Launcher with my Steam's Proton folder. I just got done mowing all day troday(I live on a big acres and fields). This is best thing I heard all day. Oh. I hope it works finally. Thank you for letting me know. I'll see if it works. :)
@@CathrineMacNiel Oh My Gosh It Finally Works! Thank you so much! Thank you for lettibg me know. I just used reinstalled it again on Heroic. It finally launched. My gosh. I have been waiting for at least since January of this year. That was the last time I checked. Now to see if anything else has updated. Been really busy, but I am happy it finally works. Happy to see Proton and those working on it making more and more steps to get all these games and programs to hopefully integrate into Linux. Thank you. I hope you have a great day.
I don't use Game Pass, but there are 4 games that I have on Windows that are holding me back from jumping to Linux for good, and 3 begin with with the words 'Forza Horizon' and the other is Minecraft (Bedrock Edition). I bought them all from the Microsoft Store back in 2021, and launch via the Xbox app. I play them all online with a friend's autistic son, so they are very important to me and I'm not dumping Windows yet, no matter how much I'd like to... and if I have a Windows partition to install those few games, then why not use it for all of them? Ironically, I only really started using Linux as I do game dev as a hobby (mostly using Godot for 2D and Unity for 3D), and wanted to make sure my games worked okay for Linux users too. I've tried quite a few distros but stuck with Pop_OS. I love it.
Having bought a game in the Microsoft store is a bummer yeah. I also got a copy of Sea of Thieves which I can't play, even if it would work. The Bedrock edition is playable btw. You run it with the pocket edition which sounds bad, but it's the exact same version as it dynamically adjusts to the system
Funny story: I ran a dual PC setup, Linux for the main PC and Windows for the games that wouldn't run, Rainbow 6, until I got a second Deck and stopped caring about the one game with anti-cheat that wouldn't work. Now I have two PCs, two Steam accounts, and can LAN party with coworkers, on the go with the Deck, or LAN party with a friend when they come over. Way better usage of the second computer, Windows has nothing to offer me.
Except anti-cheat CAN support Linux; Denovo, EAC, and Battle-Eye have a Linux toggle, except some companies like Epic literally don't check it. And then there's the companies with anti-cheat that doesn't even work on Windows (EA Anti Cheat) or the ones that are rootkits (Tencent/Riot Vanguard will never be allowed on any system I own).
Woke - Awareness that there exist others who don't look or work like you, but they deserve to have the same basic human rights, even if they don't necessarily fit your idea of how others should live their lives. Anyone who supports other people's right to live their lives according to their own beliefs (even if those beliefs conflict with your own) is woke.
@@shivanandvp That's why Anti-Cheat should never have ring 0 privileges. People may not know what it can do, but it's 100% bad. Look what happened recently with EAC! If that happened with ring 0 rootkits, goodbye to all of your privacy!
I had a dual booted system with windows 11 and Mint for a long time as well, however, after learning that Microsoft will put an end to the Windows Mixed Reality service (and VR was the sole reason I still had a dual boot), I decided to ditch Windows fpr good and try to make work VR in a brand new partition I created of Arch to completely replace Windows. I already got a glimpse of VR working on Linix, since I was able to install the Monado driver in my Mint, however, I couldn't find a way to play steam games there (because the latest mint has the 22nd version of Ubuntu). But, who knows? Maybe arch will make everything work and the rest of my games might work better as well!
Playing Minecraft on ubuntu felt more smoother than on windows. Does anyone agree? And for office related tasks, i feel ms office is convenient to use. Is there anything similar to ms office on linux.
This is the objectively correct approach to Linux gaming. Windows or Linux, you shouldn't pay more money to own nothing and let them install a rootkit. There are so many amazing games both recent and older that run amazingly on Linux. My one complaint that is my own fault is that VR compatibility is more limited (I shouldn't have bought a windows mixed reality headset)
I recently switched one of my older PCs to Linux Pop!_OS, and it’s been a game-changer. My setup includes an AMD A8 processor with an RTX 1060 graphics card. Playing Day by Daylight on this machine was smooth when I was using Windows 8.1. However, after upgrading to Windows 10, the performance took a dive-framerates plummeted and lag became frequent. I even had to lower the game settings just to make it playable, which was a frustrating experience. As Windows updates continued to burden the system, I decided it was time to ditch Windows and give Linux a try. To my surprise, not only is the system lightweight, but the game also runs as smoothly as it did on Windows 8.1, with all settings on default and no stuttering. If you have an older PC like mine, don’t throw it away just yet. It can still deliver a great gaming experience with Linux. Windows often comes loaded with bloatware that can hinder performance, but Linux can breathe new life into older hardware.
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Just switched to ubuntu a week ago been plagued with bad game performance In windows like constant fps drops and a lot of stuttering but when I switch poof it's all gone now linux is amazing
Thanks for this! I've been contemplating Linux for my next system. Big question: I am massively into Rockstar (GTA, RDR2) and I/O Interactive (Hitman). While Steam is soundly supported on Linux, how do the Rockstar and I/O launchers operate on Linux?
Besides it just being badly programmed in general, the Rockstar Games Launcher works fine on Linux. I have GTA installed this. Not sure about I/O since I have no games from them but you should be fine.
@@MichaelNROH Hi Michael, thanks for that. Yes, the Rockstar launcher is a piece of crap and, given Steam is already DRM, totally unnecessary. It's a mess. But good to know. Cheers.
this guy definitely looks like linux. if i saw him on the street, i would be like, "yeah, that's linux, the operating system kernel." just to be clear, not like a personification or anthropomorphization or anything, just the literal code itself. that's how i see you.
I avoid dual booting with VFIO, but I barely boot my Windows VM anymore. Only played on it for Halo: Infinite. I used to manage my iPhone with it, but I switched to an old MacBook for that.
Just a note, when refunding on steam, you can refund to your original payment method. It doesn't need to go back to your steam wallet.
Oh yeah, that might be an errror
I wonder why many people don't know that. When you ask for a refund the webform explicitly asks where you want to refund to. It's not like it refunds to steam wallet by default and you have to click some weird button to ask for refund to credit card.
@@MichaelNROH "might be an error"?! It is!
@@xXRealXx Not necessarily. It depends on if you already had wallet funds or not.
From personal experience, I usually bought games with Steam Wallet funds, which is why it's that way in the video. It is true that you can refund it if you purchase it directly yes
@@felixfourcolor I'm pretty sure that initially you could only refund to the wallet. Many people probably just assume it is still like that.
Linux changed my gaming addiction to programming addiction 🐧
Gosh, this happened to me a year ago after I learnt that you can customise GNOME (and Linux in general). Now I'm learning User Interface design, and using Hyprland as my Window Manager.
I want that. Tell me how
@@nsawatchlistbait289 just start
Pro-gaming addiction
Sounds awful (also programming addict here)
I now no longer have a Windows PC/Laptop since, Steam, Proton and Nobara have made everything so easy.
Same
Never heard of Nobara. What's special about it?
@@ivoryowl It has specific kernel level alterations and preinstalls geared specifically towards gaming. Be warned: it's a definitive YMMV distro. It kept locking our screen up post installs so We abandoned it.
I love Nobara! Such a solid distro
Sure hasn't made my shooter experience better. All the anti cheat not working is so sad. Still have to dual boot windows to play them.
As a gamer and a Linux user for 15+ years , when I started my transition games were mostly unplayable and over time more & more games started playing nice. Today any game with anti-cheat that requires ring-0 access to my system it essential get blacklisted in my book and I never look at them again, they are essential malware. There is no reason for something with this much access on my system.
Exactly. If they want to put a process running at the kernel level, they'd better make it at least source available or it isn't going to be installed on my system EVER.
Same here. Installing Riot's anti-cheat requires so much trust in that company. Even if you can manage to trust them hackers can still target it like what happened with Genshin.
@@Fiveward Genshin's anticheat was not bypassed and used as a backdoor though. An old version of the anti-cheat was packaged with alleged primogem generator programs in Russia to fool users into thinking it was legitimate by using an already verified dll file. This has literally happened for two decades now.
Very much this. What's the point of giving Microsoft the boot when you let other vendor's spyware in on your system through a different door?
Speaking of Anti-cheat, Easy anti-cheat make Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 unplayable for me
Crazy how good Linux gaming has gotten since the last time I tried it. Removed Windows from my system a few days ago :)
It's been almost 3 years since i migrated entirely to Linux and it's been almost a year and a half since i eliminated dual boot, it doesn't make sense.
@MRDeu I literally just got my first laptop with no OS, the Framework Laptop 16, after using a dual-boot with Windows 10 then 11 but actually booting into Windows. My Framework Laptop 16 ONLY runs Linux, and I just used fwupd to update the UEFI, no Windows required. Any company that offically supports Linux and has modern features like a 16 : 10 screen is higher on my list than a comparable Windows only laptop. Sadly, many Linux first laptops don't have touch screens or even 16 : 10 screens, but that is slowly changing.
Congrats
so, what next distro(s) are you planning to hop into? 😂
@@reikanou-issenI mean if you're Distro Hopping you probably set you're Boot Partition to 1/4th or 1/8th of you're Boot Drive and thus you don't have to Wipe the Whole Drive when Distro Hopping just The Boot Partition. Honestly you do the same with Windows. In Partition Wizard just Shrink the Partition and reformat the Rest of the Drive.
For me the writing is on the wall, October 19th 2025. When windows 10 goes eol so does my use of windows.
you have windows 10 iot ltsc 2021 which has an eol of january 13, 2032
@@mistyfaderia I don't know much about that version of Windows but the "iot" suggests that version is for very low end embedded devices like smart thermostats.
@@justanotherstanczyk it's basically a special version of windows 10 that comes debloated out of the box and has a longer support period
I started testing out Linux Mint in 2021. When Elden Ring was released, I gave it a try and found that it work! That convinced me to take the plunge. I built my new main desktop as a pure Linux machine with no dual boot. I am never going back to the spyware called Windows again.
Did that myself two years earlier. Had a hardware failure, and as the end of support for Windows 7 was less than a year away, I just went straight to Linux Mint with the MATE desktop, rather than going through the hassle of installing Windows again for only a year of use. Was prepared to lose access to a bunch of games, but was pleasantly surprised at how good Proton was, even back then. Also found I'm less annoyed since making the move. It's like there's a hundred little things you don't really notice that are done better than on Windows.
Fromsoft ftw
just in time when a paid os openly declares itself as spyware, linux finally matures as gaming platform and personal computing platform.
Could you contextualize, please? I haven't heard anything about it
@@matheusbelmar6699 recall
@@matheusbelmar6699 They are probably talking about Microsoft AI Co pilot and other Spyware/Malware Parts of Windows 10 and 11.
Heck Win 10/11 sends a copy of ALL your image & video thumbnails to microsoft every 12 hours even if they are unused old photos left in some unencrypted zip.
@@matheusbelmar6699windows got worse, linux keeps getting better
@@matheusbelmar6699 Windows, Windows 11 is constantly spying on you. Windows 10 isn't better but its better than 11.
If you value gaming in general, never support a la carte subscriptions like game pass.
Once I realized this, I canceled immediately. It was fun for a little while, but it sets a very, very bad precedent for our favorite industry
@@Jaguar21010 honestly it dilutes the games imo. I just play for 5 min then try something else and I never really get into any of the games
@@Jaguar21010 exaclty. Here in Brazil, precedents were opened for judges to do whatever, now we pay the price.
I hold a similar opinion now. I used to hate that some games refused to make their games compatible with linux, especially due to anticheats. Nowadays, I just don't play them. The only situation in which I play these kinds of games is when a friend wants to play together. In that case I just boot up windows, which happens quite rarely nowadays. Ironically, 90% of the time I boot up windows is because of MS Office, not games.
MS Office is definitely still the gold standard. If you haven't tried it though I really recommend OnlyOffice. I've been very impressed with how clean and well designed it is.
Open Office or Softmake Office are free and have great compatibilty with MS Office. If I really need to make sure compatability is great, I use the free online version of MS Office.
my guy ms office is just web apps. go to the website
@yorimirus do you have dual boot? If so does it affect your overall performance as in slow down in games?
@@POLARICEEE Indeed. Though like I said I mainly use it for ms office or if a friend of mine wants to play a game that doesnt work on linux.
I did not notice any major slow downs in games besides space engineers. You do sometimes encounter bugs, but most games are playable. I assume gaming under linux is going to be a bit slower considering all the stuff involved (DXVK, wine syscall translation, gamescope if you use that), but it's not noticeable unless you measure it.
Windows games were made for Windows. Windows games are not supposed to run on Linux. We made it work anyway. So yeah, hiccups are to be expected, but we made so many games just work. That's impressive work.
Always remember that Wine/Proton is 30 years of active development. It's insanely impressive. I mean if a Windows game doesn't work on Linux these days, I'm not thinking it's impossible but maybe it works next month.
And sometimes they run better on Linux!
My only straw is that I usually download some niche, sometimes not from steam games hidden in the far corner of internet. They work on windows, but I'm afraid of the compatibility issues that linux would have. I guess another 10 years before a complete accurate experience.
@@Pleiades_Erret There are over 26000 games reported to ProtonDB. From those over 73% work without any or only with minor issues out of the box. So statistically speaking even very niche games have a much better chance to work than flipping a coin.
Also keep in mind that most work on Wine and Proton is not targeting specific known games but issues in used APIs. So unless your niche games use any fancy and unknown dependencies, they will likely work.
But if they don't, it would be much better to report it now than waiting 10 years before noticing any issues. Those niche games will definitely fix themselves on Linux if they should have any problem.
@@Pleiades_Erret Steam Proton is a game changer. It can run just about any windows game you can think of. The future is already here. I stopped using windows six months ago and daily drive my linux mint. I've never regretted it, life is good.
Steam Deck was my go-to way of become Linux gamer
Anyone else that played PC games on Linux via Steam Deck?
Desktop-only for me. Would have bought a Steam Deck when it was new, but it wasn't available in Australia, _and still isn't._ Hardware availability is not one of Valve's strong points.
since window xp until 11 i never used linux until i buy steamdeck it change me a lot .
Linux gaming has come a long way and turned out really good. I remember back in 2012 playing windows games was a literal pain the butt. The fact that now you can run steam games and install steam almost without difficulties depending on the distro gives you lots of hope. Also lots of games runs even better on Linux right now. I was honestly surprised by Fallout 4, Skyrim and Doom Eternal. Even newer games like Palworld or Monster Hunter Iceborn. They can't ignore the most important fact here, which is that u're still buying them legally on Linux.
Steam works on every single distro completely without issues, because of the Steam Linux Runtime, which runs Steam in an Ubuntu container no matter the distro. This makes it more secure than the MacOS and Windows versions, as everything is ran with OS-Level virtualisation
@@nasimfaheemalquadir True enough but some distros require you to do a little digging before installing it. Good luck trying "sudo pacman -S steam" without the multilib enabled for example. For new users it can be an issue.
Been using linux at home since 2000. I did not play many many games. Then, at the end of 2021, proton got my attention, and I started playing. Your take on games using ring 0 'anti cheat' mirrors mine. Its just a matter of time till one the these companies are hacked and the hackers figure out how to use the 'anti cheat' as a back door.... With good instrumentation in games, along with a good stats package, it should be possible to find cheaters without all the garbage vendors like to throw at us.
Um, Minecraft has done server side anti-cheat for for years with success. There's no longer an excuse.
The ONLY way I'd play a game with kernel level anti-cheat is to have a separate PC (or at least duel booted) that is ONLY used for those games and absolutely nothing personal.. I'm lucky though, that I don't tend to play online competitive games that are the targets for anti-cheat and am very impressed with how far Linux gaming has come in the last few years. I'm with you in that before I buy a game, I make sure it works on Linux and support games that don't try to purposely not work on Linux. I have a decent sized game catalog, so I don't need to play all the new stuff. :)
Same here, I have too many games in my Steam library anyhow. I got them for dirt cheap on the Russian steam market when I lived there. On the seasonal sales some games were cheaper than a beer at the bar.
The only way I'd even let it on ANY computer I own is to have the source publicly available and also audited by a group of trusted cyber security researchers. I think Vanguard even disallows VMs and dual booting. Guess what WON'T be on any computer I own?
Thanks to Linux I don't play League of Legends anymore. It even has a preventive effect.
@@studiogabrielevarano LMAO 🤣
@@studiogabrielevarano Linux out here saving lives
@@studiogabrielevarano As a 12 year League veteran I retired last season when I found out the new ranked system is intentionally designed against the player base as a whole by forcing players to play 10x what is needed in order to disingenuously create the illusion of competitiveness. How? The developers themselves claim their newest matchmaking “AI monitoring” code aims to balance all players to precise 50% win/loss ratio, which forces players to stay in their rank tiers for significantly longer periods systematically-They do this to coercively maximize average user game-time, which increases popularity of the game and overall revue. This is an evil scam and abusive against the players. I refuse to support a developer like Riot that willfully extorts players and psychologically exploits children for monetary Greed. ❤️
Since a Level-0 anticheat is running in the background all the time, probably collecting data aswell and sending it to the company behind it, wouldn't it be a major privacy-invasion which should be possible to ban such software from people's PC's by (at least in Europe) strengthen the GDPR?
I mean having a driver installed on my system without my consent, would be very creepy, if I had no idea that it's running all the time. 🤔
The problem is that you technically consent to it. Even if Vanguard started taking more measures on your system like blocking certain hardware, you technically agreed to it.
The EU will only interact, if there is actual evidence of a market power benefitting from it directly.
I played about half of Detroit Become Human on PopOS and it ran wayyyy better than Windows 11
I played Death Stranding on my GTX 1650 laptop running Arch BTW at a solid 30. On Windows, it could barely reach that.
Thanks for all your gaming on Linux updates! These are my favorites along with your videos on how to get stuff like Davinci Resolve and other annoying apps running well on Linux. I still dual boot for Destiny and other live service games because it's a way for my friends and I to still hang out and catch up with each other. One day I'm sure we'll find something else that's more Linux friendly, and I can finally stick with Linux full time.
@dreaper5813 How are you forced into playing quality games if generally most games already do work on linux? There is so much slop you could play right now on linux with proton.
Also, a user who is tech savvy enough to be able to install any linux distro, could just install a debloated version of windows ltsc without any of M$ crap, and have more choices in what they can play.
I agree on helldivers, it's pretty fun with friends, but it's pretty buggy/unstable and runs like crap both on windows and linux.
@dreaper5813Heck, Riot has been owned by Tencent, a Chinese company, since 2010 (or maybe 2009, I'm not sure). No wonder they feeblely attempt to justify installing a rootkit to play two games. That doesn't fly and wouldn't fly ever for me.
I never support games that actively block Wine/Proton. If they don't officially support Linux or the Steam Deck but don't try to screw over Linux gamers and let them play, I'm fine with that. My problem is when they don't.
I mean, it's also bad advice to give one company near total control over the desktop marketplace but here we are.
Competition is good, until that competition is against the dominant OS market player, then people default to their Stockholm syndrome.
The issue with using probability for anti cheat is that you will catch the players that are really good at your game and end up going pro. You never want to ban someone based on a probability
Not really. The probability method that I'm talking about doesn't span across the whole game, like calculating headshot percentages and all that.
What I mean is stuff like, how likely is it to kill people 2 seconds after spawning across the whole map with a gun and this sort of thing.
Or in the case of CS2, how likely is it, that someone fires a sniper rifle (scout) in some burst mode (which is technically impossible).
It's about detecting the cheaters that are cheating as obvious as possible, and not just banning someone who has a high kill count
This makes more sense than the way you presented it in the video. To go with the example you gave, what devs should do is make honey traps, like making the rapid fire scout technically possible, but impossible without external help, and ban, or atleast trigger manual review, for those players. It shouldn't be used in a case of this flick was wicked fast, lets trigger a review, because some people will just be that fast. If you check the probability of because super quick and accurate, you will catch edge cases of people either messing around or really good, as we saw when valve banned people for just spinning with high dpi.
I keep my GamePass in my Xbox Series X and my Steam account in linux, best of both worlds
This is what I'm trying to do
Last night we set up our VERY first Linux-based PC with the sole purpose of media and gaming (thanks to your how-to). Tonight, we game. Very much looking forward to it and the freedom from M$.
I can relate but since I do this basically since the Windows 7 days, I feel like I actually missed on quite a bunch of games that I would have enjoyed on PC normally.
Oh well... there's still my second drive with Windows on it for those VR games and other than that, I mostly play Mario Kart and Splatoon online anyway.
Isn't splatoon dead?
@@xrafter Why should it? Splatoon 3 is still actively played by many many people and Splatoon 1 is back online thanks to the Pretendo project.
Also some folks still play S2.
@@MegaManNeo
Good. There are other splaton version it seems for the nentido switcher
@@xrafter Yes, Splatoon 2 and 3 are for Switch.
@@MegaManNeo
Excellent. I thought the game died with the servers for 3DS.
Great video! As a Linux gamer myself, I still think it would be better if more games would be available but I also noticed that finding alternatives hasn't been as difficult as people think. There are a lot of great games out there which work great on Linux.
Maybe there will be a valid solution to fight cheating without interfering with peoples privacy or control over their own system. So we can get more cross-compatible competitive online games.
As far as quantity of games goes, I don't think there's anything to worry about. Between DOSBox, Steam, and the odd emulator, I've got more than I can play.
@@Roxor128 Yeah, quantity is pretty good. For some older games Proton or Wine can even be the better option over running them on Windows. Because modern Windows can have compatibility issues as well and older graphics APIs don't get any updates there anymore.
I play games when i have the right mood for it, so yeah subscription services with constant removal of titles is a big "NO" for me.
sudo pacman -Rns microsoft-windows
sudo apt purge microsoft-windows
sudo dnf remove microsoft-windows
As the tech support guy for my friends, I now refuse to do tech support for Windows. If they want my help, they have to move to Linux. This has gone surprisingly well.
Doesn't they have more frequent questions about issues or using the system?
@@Sn4keey I think they stopped asking him for help 😂
@@no.no.4680 which is not a bad thing. More free time for him and more tech support price knowledge for his friends.
I did that with my relatives many years ago, some get converted to Mint and I help them, the others struggles.
thats ass**le behavior
Bro. This is evil... I love it :D
Switched to Linux a few months ago. Now my channel is dedicated to my gaming habit on Linux.
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Hey valve, gimme SteamOS ISO already
Theoretically you shouldn't need SteamOS since there are a lot of good Linux distributions out there to choose from. But I assume it would help if gamers had a company like Valve behind such a distribution for PC. They probably wait until they think support for Nvidia GPUs is reliable enough for their audience since they can't control what PC configuration it gets installed on.
If it is not supported on Linux, so I don’t play.
I'm so glad that my Steering wheel has community developed drivers. And it's a Fanatec Wheel
Gaming in Zorin here
My games aren't that heavy, so I was happy to transition to Linux a month ago. The only thing that sticks out for me is the lack of a very good alternative to Microsoft Office.
Besides the standard Libre Office, try Open Office or Softmaker Office. Great compatability.
@@fearsmasher1299 I've tried OpenOffice and Softmaker Office. Both are fine, with Softmaker being a tad bit more intuitive for me, but in Spreadsheets, both are quite lacking. So, I just use WPS, but it's so outdated.
I use only office and find it is very similar to MS Office
There's Google Docs or Ofice 365 too if you wanna try
And WPS Office
Factorio works awesome in Linux, so does self hosting a multiplayer Linux VM server from a Linux hypervisor forwarded from Linux driven network switches attached to a Linux firewall.
Self hosting is really fun if you have the hardware for it. I myself tried it, but it was eventually bottlenecked by my Internet Connection (Private VPN that is)
if the developer does not treat me well... its over and i play other things, and besides, why risk my security with ring 0 anticheats?
I've switched to linux about a year ago. I'm blown away how good the gaming is! Only thing I dual boot for are my flightsims.
Look at well... Minecraft. The servers all use server side anticheats. Most of them are trash, but some of them are really good. You don't need client-side AC's.
That's how it should be done. Tencent? That's how much they saved by not implementing it and forcing users to install rootkits! 😂
Minecraft is a lot easier to handle though. Like as I said, Ragehacks are pretty much detectable, but aim assist or wallhacks not so much.
@@cameronbosch1213Also, Tencent is a company which owner is close friends with the CCP.
literally windows is giving me so much trouble about to get rid of windows all together...
I like keeping updated with Linux gaming. I hope that someday it will be viable for me, since i don't really like the direction Windows is heading. My main problem is that i play a MMO that has an anit-cheat that is not compatible, a gamepad i use that only has a windows app to customize it, and i really like Minecraft and some of the people i play with only use the Bedrock version. But, i am hopeful that eventually with the steam deck encouraging compatibility with games that Linux might eventually be a good mainstream gaming OS.
I think there are ways to play Minecraft Bedrock on Linux as well. Which MMO?
Back around 2001 I thought the year of the linux desktop was just around the corner. Joking aside though, a lot of people did actually, and for good reason, it was objectively better in a lot of very real tangible ways, most people were still on win98 after all. You had Loki Software trying to make a business out of porting games to linux, and for a number of years I was exclusively on linux thanks to that, Civ 3 and Tribes 2 for example. Fun fact: Loki was the original developer of libSDL, which they made to help their effort in porting Civ3. It's been used by many things since, including Stardew Valley. I'm really glad to see the renewed attention to desktop linux, mostly thanks to Steam/Valve/Proton bringing in some of the gaming userbase. A lot of people in the linux world don't fully appreciate that most people don't use computers just for the hell of it, we all use computers fundamentally to run applications we want or need to run, and if the OS can't do that, then that's really the end of the discussion. The reality is that the year of the linux desktop cannot occur until linux has 100% binary compatibility with windows and ideally apple as well.
I have a few games that I play and they are fully compatible on Linux. No need to go back to windows.
And if your hardware doesn't havre a linux app to configure it, don't be afraid to setup a minimal windows vm. I had that issue with my aio cooler
yeah I have to do that for my Flightsticks, their configuration software is windows only :/
Luckily you can setup a windows VM without a product key.
Pure Distro Linux phones not far behind too, as right now there usable not on everything but it's getting there.
Linux phones should be completely fine as they have Waydroid which can run a whole Android GUI and apps in. And they also have the beautiful GNOME-based Desktop Environment, PhoSH
@@nasimfaheemalquadir agreed but still some need abit more work they still useable
You're right. Even if I spend my whole life playing games on Linux, I'll never run out of options. So, I have no problem avoiding games from developers and publishers who are hostile to Linux.
I recently switched to Linux full time. I'm running Ubuntu and so far I've been getting Steam to play most of my games.
For those games that do require anti-cheat I've considered using a Virtual Machine with GPU Pass-through. I'm fortunate that my hardware supports IOmmu and all that jazz...
Worst case scenario, I just don't play those games. There are plenty others and at the end of the day I can always get a console or whatever.
Great video btw ✌
It has gotten so good now. I'm on Fedora and things are almost perfect. Close enough, anyway. And I prefer it for running emulators and basically everything else. Gnome is hella polished, the system is stable and solid.. My Steam copy of Halo Master Chief Collection works.. I'm a happy camper.
This video starts at 3:20
Firstly, game pass is great for people who can afford it but who can't afford buying all the games on there at full price - and who also don't want to wait the months it might take for the game they want to try or play to be discounted on Steam. No reason to bash it. Most people already own more games then they're ever going to play on Steam, and most never finish a game. Passes are great value for money for most gamers. And I'm writing this is a linux gamer that doesn't use any personally.
Secondly, at least for some game 2 hours of gameplay is not enough. I'm usually in the character creator for at least one hour for most RPGs and CRPGs I play. And one hour of game play, hell even two, is not enough for a lot of games. It might be enough for Path of Exile or Warframe, but it's not enough for Pathfinder Kingmaker or Tyranny. Steam's 2 hours are a compromise that mainly benefits shorter games. But even then, games like Pilgrims can not only be completed in under 1 hour but can be 100% in less than 2. To say that 2 hours is enough to decide if a game is for you or not is at least in my opinion false.
@dreaper5813 If you'd rather pirate you were never the target audience for anyone, not Microsoft and not the devs.
Nah, subscription rental services are trash, and need to be snuffed out before they become "the normal".
@@GugureSux He's going the route the WEF wants him to go.
"Ya'll own nothing and ya be happy, goy."
"You'll eat ze bugs and sleep in ze pods"
We need to make Linux more popular 😊 great work, keep doing
As an exclusively Mac OS user for about 20yrs who mainly games on consoles, but REALLY WANTS to play "Windows" versions of some games (mainly Skyrim), this is really exciting to hear!! Id rather not "hack" my Mac Pro in order to run Windows effectively in order to game!
Some of the games I mainly want to play are battlefield 2042 and the new MW2. However, the way the games are going (mostly call of duty), I may not want to play them anymore.
working on installing Linux on my machine, bf2042 is the only real reason I'm dual booting
You got my vote for *DUMPING WINDOZ !!*
I'm a social gamer, so I end up disagreeing. I usually play single player games if any when I'm by myself, but certain games like the finals with friends, would just not be possible anymore. perhaps i'll have one windows ssd, and one linux ssd, but yea. I don't know. your solution doesn't help me when it comes to social circumstances.
The Finals is actually compatible, according to this: areweanticheatyet.com/?search=The+finals&sortOrder=&sortBy=
Social... way better to be a loner.
Thank God I only play CS and Dota. Whenever I finally transition to Linux, I think it would be easier for me.
I feel this is just the video for me especially after seeing a Destiny 2 clip in the intro 😁
I've tried to switch off dual booting, to the kvm/qemu VM , and i've managed with help of 1 random guy that i found on reddit, make not just a gpu passtrough (it was ez for me personally), but the whole "PC passtrough". In short, Fortnite doesn't allow you to play under virtual machine, and i were kicked out without VM modifications while launching the match. After few tweaks, every device been shown in task manager is been named properly, just like all my real stuff is. And i were able to play fortnite without issues, the full match, but there is risk of being banned due to bypassing anticheat.
I kinda reccomend it to do, only if you have 2 gpu's (or atleast 1 real gpu, and 1 gpu off the CPU), if only 1 gpu - dont bother, use dual boot.
So if you run Windows 10/11 within a VM to play a multiplayer game that requires anticheat and also have a tweak that lies saying you are not using a VM it will work no problem even with valorant? This tweak is with in the VM or run some program to do that? This is sort of all new to me and wondering about this. Right now I usually run Windows 11 but thinking of installing linux. One game I play tanki online they only ask to run anti-cheat in competions events not for general public matches and runs thru the browser. Thank you for explaining about this.
@@cybernit3 Well, i'm not valorant player, for alot of reasons, so i can't assist you within valorant anticheat which is kernel stuff.
In linux, exist QEMU/KVM virtualmachine, and GUI named something like virtmanager. In simple terms, i've tweaked my yaml config of entire virtual machine, in that way, that is passedtrough my entire processor and other devices. (It doesn't mean that linux can't use atleast some of processor while VM is running, linux supposedly working fine with these conditions).
So in summary, it's just a cleverly-adjusted config. Altough, during usage of it, I had 1 peculiar bug that was spreaded across all games, i can't describe exactly what it was, but sometimes game would just "run poorly for no reason". So beware of that thing actually might happening.
And if you're just starting with linux, dont rush too much with VM without knowing basic's of linux interactions versus windows's.
And don't immidiatley seek for "pre-configured VM with anticheat bypass", because it's really requires kinda personal steps to do
> only if you have 2 gpu's
I assume a laptop with iGPU and dGPU would be fine then?
@@cybernit3 nope valorant was patched within 3 months. It used to work but now it doesn't. Same with fortnite.
The problem is, that you can never really abstract your VM to look like a native machine, as Anti Cheats might try to access resources that are being reserved by the host.
As soon as there is some weird hardware combination, like an odd number of cores or not all cores perform like they should, then you might still get banned
Honestly what's happening is microsoft is in control of telling the game developers to only produce games for windows only because in Linux they don't want to risk loosing money because of support of software going to open source.
huh? You don't have to go open source to support Linux?
do you have any gaming channel where you stream games, Micheal?
Theoretically yes, but I'm currently not streaming
This guys whole personality is Linux vs Windows 😂
First thing I did when I got my Lenovo Legion Go, was to swap out windows 11 for Bazzite. Windows didn't even get a chance to boot.
My games list hit critical mass a few months ago when nearly all of them were linux compatible in some form, did my full switch to Linux Mint LTS and unplugged my Win 10 ssd.
The number of game crashes have dropped to nearly zero compared to my Win 10 experience. 🙂👍
The other reason why I still keep windows after a few years on a second drive, is because my racing sim setup will not work on linux.
It's only a matter of time indeed, you are very right about that.
Having Steam on Linux changed everything.
Steam is the GOAT and there's no reason to use any other platform. Luckily Europa Universalis 4 works like a charm through Steam on Linux.
Steam is terrible and pretty much a monopoly. GOG is pretty good, but we need a few more platforms that actually compete
@archip8021
Why is it terrible? And developers can chose not to release their games in steam if they wanted.
@@xrafter they really can't. How's a game going to fare if you don't put it on steam?
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this is not a problem of steam. The PC player base doesn't want to bloat their systems with other launchers that take times and effort to download. Alot of players will end up deleting the launcher after he finish or try the game, but some don't delete the launcher.
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Obviously putting it in steam is better for the number of sales, most PC games have steam and they use it everyday or in a weekly basis.
Right, just not playing certain games really wasn’t the direction i was hoping this was going to go.
damn, an operating system that isnt spyware, runs way faster and will help me quit Destiny?
PERFECT
Linux is getting popular but I still can't migrate from windows because my dad is a windows fan.
This is my personal thoughts about this. Gaming is for kids who have a lot of free time to spend on computers. I always liked games from technical standpoint, I even got xbox 360 to play gta5 and ea skate 3, but after that, I never could do PC gaming, cause consoles were enough for me. Gaming from programming stand point seems much more interesting, cause it's like creating a brand new world, too bad all these game developers want to get paid instead of giving out there games to be fully open source and practical for humanity. Cause, nobody has time to code games from scratch. I hope this changes in the future, were more open source game development and knowledge get's spread out, instead of just more pointless games that I will not play anyway. Gaming has large potential in it's development stage.
There's one reason why I don't play in Linux yet, and has nothing to do with games: I can get everything working, except my Elite Series controllers back paddles via Bluetooth on Steam. I have 3 weeks off soon and hopefully time to look into that. 😅
Another 303 user! ;-) Love that mouse. But: I also switched to Linux for good a little while back and even went for endeavour, which is supposed to be harder than others (arch in general is). It is true, I find it more difficult at times than Ubuntu, but it is manageable. Thank you for mentioning piper. I have used that way back when I first tried to switch a couple of years back and support wasn't great back then, but now both my mice work perfectly (305 and 303).
I tried linux gaming 5-6 years ago, but it was too much to configure (I just want to install a game and play without any configuring). This year I decided to try again. I tried Heroic launcher for Baldurs Gate 3, Divinity Origin 2, Fallout 4, Witcher 3 and Starfield on steam. The games I play now. And boy what a difference, it is just like in Windows, just install and play. No tinkering needed. Currently on Garuda Linux and testing Nobara. It just works! I am gonna test a "immutable" distro too. I just had some hickups with a update on Garuda, although its the first in a year and after over 800 updates, luckily I had the LTS kernel that still works, so it would be nice to have an immutable system. Its been months since I booted up Windows.
I followed the same path quite a few years ago. Dual boot became annoying, most things I wanted seemed to be on linux and I rebooted less and less. I used to reboot just to update windows, but its probably a couple of years since I did that. I had vmware player for non-game windows applications I wanted, but that had some problems a couple of years ago and I never needed it enough to fix it.
It's really unfortunate that most games aren't made cross-platform from the start. I have watched various software engineers start writing game engines from scratch. What I have learned from them is that, if you start the process with cross-platform functionality in mind from the get-go, it is a relatively trivial matter. It just takes a little work at the beginning with the set-up and then the rest of the development flows as usual, with a few housekeeping tasks here and there along the way.
This is helped even more if the developers choose to go with open, cross-platform, and/or vendor agnostic technologies (e.g., Vulkan API instead of Direct3D, AMD's GPUOpen open source solutions instead of Nvidia's proprietary solutions, etc.). Also, there are now universal package formats like Flatpak that would make distribution on Linux a non-issue, contrasted with the past, when different distros and their unique package formats and dependencies had to be accounted for.
GeForce Now works because they have a unique identifier passed through the VM as a property which can be used by the game to both identify that you're using GeForce Now and allow you past the anti-cheat, and allow them to uniquely identify you to your GeForce account and ban you. You can make a KVM which emulates physical hardware fairly well and will work for some anti-cheats, but not all.
Is this backed by an article or anything? From what I found, there is no clear documentation on this.
Now, I'm interested in something. I have a GOG Game being Monkey Island 1 Special Edition(the Remake). For about a year, I've been trying Lutris, DosBox, and even this newer Heroic Launcher. I can never get that single game launched on any Linux OS and it drives me nuts.
I am someone who uses both a custom, debloated Windows OSs and Linux Mint OS on seperate drives and seperate computer units. Now, I don't play competitive shooters. I enjoy fantasy games like Elder Scrolls, Star Wars, Zelda, etc. But, I enjoy this video including your other videos on this topic of gaming in Linux.
For me, gaming was never an issue cause I use seperate computers or even just consoles to play any game. For me, gaming on Linux has always been more difficult for over a decade until recently. Steam Deck coming out has made it way, WAY better. But, I'm still waiting on these point and click like this certain version of Monkey Island or other niche games I enjoy along with debugging programs I use in Windows for Window machines to get better before I fully switch to Linux.
There is a Play on Linux script for this remake of the secret of monkey island, you might want to check it.
That's strange. I just started The Secret of Monkey Island™: Special Edition via Steam (with active Steam Compatibility through Proton Experimental) and had no issues starting and running it.
@@CathrineMacNiel WAIT REALLY?!? I own the GOG version. But, I have been using the Heroic Launcher with my Steam's Proton folder. I just got done mowing all day troday(I live on a big acres and fields). This is best thing I heard all day. Oh. I hope it works finally. Thank you for letting me know. I'll see if it works. :)
@@CathrineMacNiel Oh My Gosh It Finally Works! Thank you so much! Thank you for lettibg me know. I just used reinstalled it again on Heroic. It finally launched. My gosh. I have been waiting for at least since January of this year. That was the last time I checked. Now to see if anything else has updated. Been really busy, but I am happy it finally works. Happy to see Proton and those working on it making more and more steps to get all these games and programs to hopefully integrate into Linux.
Thank you. I hope you have a great day.
@@grizzlyindustries7593 Thats very cool, and I hope you have a great day as well!
Basically it changed the gaming experience to stop gaming.
I don't use Game Pass, but there are 4 games that I have on Windows that are holding me back from jumping to Linux for good, and 3 begin with with the words 'Forza Horizon' and the other is Minecraft (Bedrock Edition). I bought them all from the Microsoft Store back in 2021, and launch via the Xbox app. I play them all online with a friend's autistic son, so they are very important to me and I'm not dumping Windows yet, no matter how much I'd like to... and if I have a Windows partition to install those few games, then why not use it for all of them?
Ironically, I only really started using Linux as I do game dev as a hobby (mostly using Godot for 2D and Unity for 3D), and wanted to make sure my games worked okay for Linux users too. I've tried quite a few distros but stuck with Pop_OS. I love it.
Having bought a game in the Microsoft store is a bummer yeah. I also got a copy of Sea of Thieves which I can't play, even if it would work.
The Bedrock edition is playable btw. You run it with the pocket edition which sounds bad, but it's the exact same version as it dynamically adjusts to the system
I don’t think comment at 1:18 belittles the issue. The person simply provided an alternative that they are using.
I actually couldn't find all the comments for the B-Roll, since searching the web has become terrible recently.
Can't even search for quotes anymore
Funny story: I ran a dual PC setup, Linux for the main PC and Windows for the games that wouldn't run, Rainbow 6, until I got a second Deck and stopped caring about the one game with anti-cheat that wouldn't work. Now I have two PCs, two Steam accounts, and can LAN party with coworkers, on the go with the Deck, or LAN party with a friend when they come over. Way better usage of the second computer, Windows has nothing to offer me.
No. Gaming on Linux is great. I choose to support some games but not all games. If a company doesn’t want my money they can use anti-cheat or go woke.
I fully support your opinion sir
Except anti-cheat CAN support Linux; Denovo, EAC, and Battle-Eye have a Linux toggle, except some companies like Epic literally don't check it. And then there's the companies with anti-cheat that doesn't even work on Windows (EA Anti Cheat) or the ones that are rootkits (Tencent/Riot Vanguard will never be allowed on any system I own).
Woke - Awareness that there exist others who don't look or work like you, but they deserve to have the same basic human rights, even if they don't necessarily fit your idea of how others should live their lives. Anyone who supports other people's right to live their lives according to their own beliefs (even if those beliefs conflict with your own) is woke.
@@shivanandvp That's why Anti-Cheat should never have ring 0 privileges. People may not know what it can do, but it's 100% bad. Look what happened recently with EAC! If that happened with ring 0 rootkits, goodbye to all of your privacy!
Ah, I was with you till you said or go woke man.
I had a dual booted system with windows 11 and Mint for a long time as well, however, after learning that Microsoft will put an end to the Windows Mixed Reality service (and VR was the sole reason I still had a dual boot), I decided to ditch Windows fpr good and try to make work VR in a brand new partition I created of Arch to completely replace Windows. I already got a glimpse of VR working on Linix, since I was able to install the Monado driver in my Mint, however, I couldn't find a way to play steam games there (because the latest mint has the 22nd version of Ubuntu). But, who knows? Maybe arch will make everything work and the rest of my games might work better as well!
Valve is working on VR at the moment. I guess there will be some changes later this year if their development pace continues
03:45 A wild Pirate spotted. May the chant commence.
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Why this guys face always look so intense 😂, like he saw a monster or something.
Playing Minecraft on ubuntu felt more smoother than on windows. Does anyone agree?
And for office related tasks, i feel ms office is convenient to use. Is there anything similar to ms office on linux.
I think that might just be placebo or some driver settings like VRR (if below refresh rate).
I find it to run the same
There is libre office but tbh nothing comes close to MS office .
Once Epic solves the anti cheat issue preventing me from playing fortnite on linux.. then i’ll say goodbye to windows
This is the objectively correct approach to Linux gaming. Windows or Linux, you shouldn't pay more money to own nothing and let them install a rootkit. There are so many amazing games both recent and older that run amazingly on Linux. My one complaint that is my own fault is that VR compatibility is more limited (I shouldn't have bought a windows mixed reality headset)
You know I'm not saying you're wrong about the rootkit thing but why is your first and last name visible if you're concerned about privacy?
I recently switched one of my older PCs to Linux Pop!_OS, and it’s been a game-changer. My setup includes an AMD A8 processor with an RTX 1060 graphics card. Playing Day by Daylight on this machine was smooth when I was using Windows 8.1. However, after upgrading to Windows 10, the performance took a dive-framerates plummeted and lag became frequent. I even had to lower the game settings just to make it playable, which was a frustrating experience.
As Windows updates continued to burden the system, I decided it was time to ditch Windows and give Linux a try. To my surprise, not only is the system lightweight, but the game also runs as smoothly as it did on Windows 8.1, with all settings on default and no stuttering.
If you have an older PC like mine, don’t throw it away just yet. It can still deliver a great gaming experience with Linux. Windows often comes loaded with bloatware that can hinder performance, but Linux can breathe new life into older hardware.
Just switched to ubuntu a week ago been plagued with bad game performance In windows like constant fps drops and a lot of stuttering but when I switch poof it's all gone now linux is amazing
What games do you play bro?
@GreyDeathVaccine elden ring, dark souls games, space marine 2 mainly rpgs.
Thanks for this! I've been contemplating Linux for my next system. Big question: I am massively into Rockstar (GTA, RDR2) and I/O Interactive (Hitman). While Steam is soundly supported on Linux, how do the Rockstar and I/O launchers operate on Linux?
Besides it just being badly programmed in general, the Rockstar Games Launcher works fine on Linux. I have GTA installed this.
Not sure about I/O since I have no games from them but you should be fine.
@@MichaelNROH Hi Michael, thanks for that. Yes, the Rockstar launcher is a piece of crap and, given Steam is already DRM, totally unnecessary. It's a mess. But good to know. Cheers.
Wine , lutris , proton ❤
and to top it all off: Glorious Eggroll!
@@CathrineMacNielI don't know this one , I'm gonna check it .
@@opfax163 GloriousEggroll is the developer of Nobara Linux, and the patched versions of wine (wine-ge) and proton (proton-ge)
Still need windows for VR. Valve, save us plz.
I finish my bachelors degree in 3 weeks. Windows will be removed the day after I’m done and won’t return.
You bring up a lot of solid points.
this guy definitely looks like linux. if i saw him on the street, i would be like, "yeah, that's linux, the operating system kernel." just to be clear, not like a personification or anthropomorphization or anything, just the literal code itself. that's how i see you.
My only issue is that, 2 monitors with different refreshrates is a pain in the ass on linux.
PURGE... linux ftw... support from a longtime linux user
every time you cave to corporate demands you support those tactics... resist lol
I avoid dual booting with VFIO, but I barely boot my Windows VM anymore. Only played on it for Halo: Infinite.
I used to manage my iPhone with it, but I switched to an old MacBook for that.
Nice vídeo Michael.