A quick note: this is a fairly long video so if you want to skip to the engine teardown, use this link: ruclips.net/video/_m5LglFJ-4I/видео.html If you're a JDM fan you'll probably agree that the 1990s was the golden age for Japanese performance engines. We got the 2JZ, the RB, the 4G63 as well as the Honda K-series. All over-engineered, and all capable of producing power well above their factory spec. But there’s another engine that we haven’t covered yet and one that definitely belongs in that group - Nissan’s SR20. ... ---------------------------------------------------------- Like this video? Here are more like it: - What's So Special About Subaru EJ: ruclips.net/video/2IEiA6cbtCg/видео.html - What's So Special About Mitsubishi 4G63: ruclips.net/video/J7k95s0K-Kc/видео.html - What's So Special About Honda K-series: ruclips.net/video/nJ3tlKsPfLg/видео.html - What's So Special about Toyota 2JZ: ruclips.net/video/OMpTUgkAcoA/видео.html - What's So Special About Nissan RB: ruclips.net/video/TS3fFLg2QfU/видео.html - What's So Special About GM LS: ruclips.net/video/wMZG7nFx-2M/видео.html - What's So Special About Ford Barra: ruclips.net/video/hJ6O1qnMmak/видео.html --------------------------------------------------------
i remember that hpa mentions the sr20 a lot in their courses as being really sensitive on the limiter. if you're using rpm limit launch control strategies, you can use fuel cut instead of ignition cut. i guess maybe the boost build up at launch won't be as good (depending on the turbo size and boost aims) but destroying the engines also isn't very pleasing
Rocker Arm Stoppers are a pretty controversial topic. I would much rather suggest looking into dual guide mod first. It really helps with the rocker issue.
Exactly, dual guide mod, stronger valve springs, and a softer fuel cut limiter, as well solid lifters don’t hurt either. Rocker arm stoppers do not stop rocker arms from falling off and when they do… it does damage!
I think the main problem is the difference of height between the 2 valves. Most of SR user doesn't shim properly there SR, thus the rocker doesn't like at all being in this condition + high RPM. And rocker arm stoppers sometimes causes more damage than just pop a rocker out of position. 😅
Great video and thank you for the in-depth tear down. I’ve owned my SR for coming up to 15 years now and it’s not missed a beat and is always a joy to drive, though seeing another one on the road is getting rarer.
I think I've had mine for about that long too. One engine, neve missed a beat. Probably helps that I kept it stock, but even like that it's still a tonne of fun for something that only gets driven fairly rarely
@@AnonyDave I've got mine running Stage 1a at just about 270bhp and for a daily use it is perfectly adequate. At the time of the upgrade I thought about going Stage 2 but couldn't really justify all the extra upgrades required.
I bought my first SR20 in 2004. It was already fairly old back then. Mine had various oil leaks and gasket issues. I cannot believe people are still running them 20 years later!
Same. I havnt looked at car stuff in a decade. Surprised an SR20 is still talked about. From what I understand ppl are swapping Honda K20s now since there are so many to salvage from domestically, and are better designed.
Sr20's are fantastic. They can take a lot of abuse, especially at stock or close to stock power levels. When people start pushing them at power levels they were never designed for they have issues. I have a black top sr20det and a sr20de, the only thing ive had "fail" is a timing chain tensioner on the sr20de that wouldnt hold oil over night so the chain would slap on startup. I think people have to remember they arent new engines anymore.
It just sucks now because parts are taxed up the ass and as an American (who btw loves this motor) it’s really hard to justify spending 5k (low end for notchtop prices in North America) on motor and 5k more to build it only to reach
Correct, with bolt ons and 360whp they will take alot of abuse as long as a soft cut limiter is used and the rpms are kept around 7500, the valve train is notorious for having issues but its easy enough to solve the issue with dual guide mod and correctly shimming them. As far as built motors go, 650whp is about the limit before you start to have issues with things like main caps cracking, crankwalk and would have to start looking at things like sleeves, billet main caps and billet girdles to tie the bottom end in. At 600whp or so they will still do well plenty of time attack and pro drift cars go well with that amount, the 7-8-900hp motors turning into more drag motors and needing far more more work to hold together. People forget the s chassis that these engines were intended for a so small and light they dont need a heap of power to get good performance from, whether with 360whp for beginners all the way up to 600whp for the pros and thats about as much as it was ever intended for when you pull the motor apart and see what they look like from the inside.
Great video! Sr20 is a diamond I’ve boosted my front wheel drive Sentra from na to built internals and bigger turbo over the years and she puts a smile on my face every time , she’s a keeper. I still own it today 👍
I seen one in an old Nissan hardbody truck.. I’m not sure what year but it was sweet, probably early/mid 90’s, it was slammed and had big chunky tires with the right amount of camber, and it had wide body fenders. It was stancey but still functional if that makes sense.
He was referring to the S13 engine, in the context of the front engine - rear wheel drive config. But yes, you are correct the GTiR used a number of different components in the engine, turbo being one of them.
@@haltech That turbo worked very well in the GTI-R. It spooled quicker than the smaller t25 in the rps13 setup. Do you know why that would be? Is it because the GTI-R had a shorter charge pipe from having a top-mount intercooler, wheres the rps13 has a side-mount intercooler with a longer charge pipe?
@@beachforestmountain4269 GTiR variant had a surprisingly large amount of differences. It runs lower static compression (same pistons, but no quench pad on the combustion chamber), solid lifters / different cam profile, and runs different base ignition timing, as well as the ITB setup. Would be hard to say how each change contributes to performance
@@Sigfader180 Thanks. My old mate got the first GTI-R that arrived in New Zealand, he imported it himself before anyone had even heard of them. It was super fast back in those days. It had an exhaust and air filter, but not sure what boost it was running. I think they ran 12 psi standard, if I remember correctly. Whereas the sr20det in my rps13 180sx was running about 6 to 7 psi standard.
Lovely video as always, but I need to point something out. As others have said, rocker arm stoppers only make matters worse, as they trap the rockers in place and instead of just bouncing out, they tend to break and that can lead to bigger damage. Besides that, decking the engine head will not interfere with the timing case/oil pump, only if you re-deck the block. And lastly, you don't really need to remove the sump and timing case to remove the head, everything is separate, you can even remove the timing case without removing the head at all. Besides that, as I said, lovely video and I love watching Tuning Fork tear down these engines and talk about them, can't wait to see even more videos like this
Great video, about a year a ago I picked up a 1996 200sx se-r and even though she's at 250,000 miles still runs strong. Only thing I've done to her is a water pump and timing kit. Getting ready to start playing more inside that engine, and this has been a pretty comprehensive video for me to work off of. Thanks!
I have a 97 se and I'm looking at buying a sr20det swapped 96 se. I freaking love that little car it handles so well and still fun to drive even with the currently low power output
Very much recommend not to use rocker arm stoppers and to correctly measure your intake shim heights to level the rockers (precision shims make different height guides if you feel the need to do dual guide shims) and fit a new spring oe spring or aftermarket upgraded spring. Ideally, new lifters as well but these in conjunction with a soft ignition cut should help avoid breaking any arms.
I have a U13 Bluebird it has a SR20 DET in it and it is 4WD.I also have a spare engine out of a 96 Primera that is supposed to be low milage . I have had the U13 for over twenty years and had no problems with it.
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Rocker arm stoppers are the worst. Back in 1998 i came up with the dual grooved shimmed setup. You will need to machine the rocker arm to get this setup done. The best way to stabilize the SR head setup is. High pressure VE oil pump this keeps the lifters less likelyto colapsr, 98 and newer roller rocker SR hydraulic lifters which have the larger oil inlet hole and smaller top exit hole, aftermarket springs and the dual guide rocker arm setup. Nice youtube video. I have been working on SRs since 1992.
Lucky enough I have a Nismo tuned ECU in mine and it’s got a soft limiter setting that has been awesome. Definitely does feel like it has a fuel cut within that setting buts it’s more or less rocket proofed the SR, it’s just nice hits the limiter your feel a very soft bounce and then you feel like you’ve lost power if you don’t shift. Guess they knew of the issue and addressed it with the ECU.
VW/Audi 1.8T from the same era was awesome - so much power so easily. Above the Japanese 2.0’s and Aussie V8’s of the day. Had one for 20 years, running 27psi and never had an oil leak or any issue
Is there any video comparing all the modern/semi-modern inline 4s? As in, taking into account all aspects. Stock internals, stock head efficiency, ported head efficiency, aftermarket parts availability for beefier stuff, stock block limits, sleeving cost, engine weight, junkyard pull-ability, ease of converting say, a high compression hybrid/Atkinson variant into a high-performance variant, engine swap kit availability for various chassis and transmissions, etc? I'd really like to see a deep dive on K series vs Ecotec vs Duratec vs SR vs 4G vs 2AR, etc. And TBH same for V6s, too. We need more V6 builds and good V6s in the world. Not every engine bay can fit an inline 6 (especially of substantial displacement) and not everybody can accept the limits of a 4-cylinder nor does that same crowd necessarily want the liability, complexity, and either excess power or underutilization of boost that an 8-cylinder provides. Not to mention, the inline 6s of old are heavy iron ordeals that are legit worse than an LS engine, and the modern inline 6s? Expensive and rare. Except for the Vortec 4200 or OM606, but then we're back to the "too long" part.
Oh wow, for a brief moment I thought this was one of those videos which just reads the wikipedia page of said engine, because of the thumbnail. But it was actually an interesting video from haltec with tuning fork
Prior to this video, I knew very little about the SR20, beyond the basics - 2.0L, dual overhead cam, etc. This has been really enlightening! Any chance of doing a similar video for the 3SGE/3SGTE? :)
@7:23 Rocker Arm stoppers are a bad idea. They won’t stop rocker arms for falling. But it will guarantee that the rocker arms get wedged between the camshaft lifters, shredding them into pieces. Where without rocker arm stoppers there is a small chance the rocker arm just falls off.
Rocker stoppers do such a good job at keeping the rocker arm in place the arm breaks because they are fragile. You cant stop it from spitting rocker arms its fair easier to fix with out rockers stoppers. If it spits and arm worth out a stoppers its rare is breaks and cant be fixed easy. Stoppers will nearly 100% of the time break a broken arm when it happens. Taper the torque curve at the top of the rpm, soft limiter and 2 step or antilag if you got the time to be re fitting the rocker arms. If you are building making both shims locater shims makes a better difference then stoppers. Thats my 2 cents
Campaigned an SR20 and later SR20DET for nearly a decade in wheel to wheel, and have run one for decades in Offroad stuff. Made 462whp in a street car, revved the racecar to 8,000rpm, etc. Only time I ever chucked a rocker arm was when my buddy misshifted from 3rd to 2nd. Quality valve springs and matching cam (I only run JWT) and you’ll be fine.
My rocker arms still broke even tho i had no rocker arm stopper. But if i had one it wouldve probably jammed the valves open and bent a valve . New rocker arm was 60-70bucks and an hour of work . Ditch those rocker arm stoppers they really make it worse 👍🏾
We got the SR20DE altima here in the Philippines, the US got also the SR20DE on the B13 and the B13 GT-S got the SR18DE.. which was a shame, i wished for the SR powered B13 here in the Philippines but we got a GA13DS, GA14DS, GA15DE, and GA16DE B13/B14
Wow they made it so easy now a day with plug and play ECU then back in the day when i put in my first sr20 in my s13 like 20 years ago it was tough back then but now it seem easier now a day.
What? no comment on the main bearing cap girdle? Then again it's not like it's a k motor. Can oil squirters be easily fitted to an N A engine? I have a Serena van one with rear distributor and rear facing throttle body . Will that work in a longitudinal application?
Was planning on stripping my motor back and changing the timing chain, will this require the motor to come out as stated the pan and lower sump needs to come off is this true? Or will I be able to change it in the vehicle
Yeah but you forgot about the RNN 14 SR20. 20 degree advance, LOW compression ratio, solid *sodium* lifters, huge oil squirters, better PVC, forged conrod and crank. Good for >1000KW heh heh heh.
@Nolesy actually the sr20vet neo. Came out of an xtrail acrually. Been in the car for a hot minute. Having issues finding someone to do a harness, not something i trust myself doing, and i have the haltech elite 1500. Thanks for the emotional support though.. was definitely a tense 12 days in shipping 😆
My tuner story: Had a 240sx as a first car in 1999. Loved that car. Paid a guy for a CA18DET. He ripped me off, never got the engine. Ordered an red top SR20 from Japan and shipped to my local tuner Ftuning. Jason can eat poo poo. Engine arived locked up, bent rods. Paid Ftuning to rebuilt it. Order all parts, pistons, rods, studs blah blah. Jason from Ftuning in Idaho screwed me and put some flat top pistons from a 300zx in my block. It always detonated, sounded like a coffe can full off nuts and bolts rolling down a hill. It was trash. I even had standalone ecu on it. He would not fix it. I hate Jason from Ftuning. Drove a 350z for a couple years. Awesome car. Shoulda never sold it. This guy rolls up in an 96' Skyline GTST one day at my work. Told me it was imported legal and all taxes paid. Drove it for a couple years. Such a fun car. Governemnt knocked on my door, they wanted it more than i did apparently. Gone. I must be an idiot. I have a 69' datsun 510 wagon with an L20, header, 5 speed swap, coils up front, air shocks out back, custom alumn fuel cell. Sitting 400 miles away from me, cant even work on it. Love cars but god i hate cars.
A quick note: this is a fairly long video so if you want to skip to the engine teardown, use this link: ruclips.net/video/_m5LglFJ-4I/видео.html
If you're a JDM fan you'll probably agree that the 1990s was the golden age for Japanese performance engines. We got the 2JZ, the RB, the 4G63 as well as the Honda K-series. All over-engineered, and all capable of producing power well above their factory spec. But there’s another engine that we haven’t covered yet and one that definitely belongs in that group - Nissan’s SR20.
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Just talking 4 Cylinders and 2 Liters which is best overall. K20 or SR20?
9:11 - Thanks for the great, detail-packed video and cheers for the engine building course mention team! - Taz.
^^ Can confirm it's well worth doing:)
thoughts on rocker arm stoppers?
i remember that hpa mentions the sr20 a lot in their courses as being really sensitive on the limiter. if you're using rpm limit launch control strategies, you can use fuel cut instead of ignition cut. i guess maybe the boost build up at launch won't be as good (depending on the turbo size and boost aims) but destroying the engines also isn't very pleasing
Rocker Arm Stoppers are a pretty controversial topic. I would much rather suggest looking into dual guide mod first. It really helps with the rocker issue.
Exactly, dual guide mod, stronger valve springs, and a softer fuel cut limiter, as well solid lifters don’t hurt either. Rocker arm stoppers do not stop rocker arms from falling off and when they do… it does damage!
Or do the neo vvl head swap
Ask Okichan from Yashio factory in Japan if he recommends rocker stoppers😂. Answer is no and he's the Sr God.
@@ryantweddle6155 facts
I think the main problem is the difference of height between the 2 valves. Most of SR user doesn't shim properly there SR, thus the rocker doesn't like at all being in this condition + high RPM. And rocker arm stoppers sometimes causes more damage than just pop a rocker out of position. 😅
Great video and thank you for the in-depth tear down.
I’ve owned my SR for coming up to 15 years now and it’s not missed a beat and is always a joy to drive, though seeing another one on the road is getting rarer.
I think I've had mine for about that long too. One engine, neve missed a beat. Probably helps that I kept it stock, but even like that it's still a tonne of fun for something that only gets driven fairly rarely
@@AnonyDave I've got mine running Stage 1a at just about 270bhp and for a daily use it is perfectly adequate.
At the time of the upgrade I thought about going Stage 2 but couldn't really justify all the extra upgrades required.
I've been looking forward to an episode covering the SR20 and I'm stoked it's here
I bought my first SR20 in 2004. It was already fairly old back then. Mine had various oil leaks and gasket issues. I cannot believe people are still running them 20 years later!
Fantastic engine when looked after.
Because the one I'm running today was only nearing on two years old then
Same. I havnt looked at car stuff in a decade. Surprised an SR20 is still talked about. From what I understand ppl are swapping Honda K20s now since there are so many to salvage from domestically, and are better designed.
I still daily drive my 308k km (approx 191k miles) SR20 wich is covered by oil (rust prevention?)👍
I have a forged black top with 1200 miles on it in an s13 disco, love it.
Sr20's are fantastic. They can take a lot of abuse, especially at stock or close to stock power levels. When people start pushing them at power levels they were never designed for they have issues. I have a black top sr20det and a sr20de, the only thing ive had "fail" is a timing chain tensioner on the sr20de that wouldnt hold oil over night so the chain would slap on startup. I think people have to remember they arent new engines anymore.
It just sucks now because parts are taxed up the ass and as an American (who btw loves this motor) it’s really hard to justify spending 5k (low end for notchtop prices in North America) on motor and 5k more to build it only to reach
Correct, with bolt ons and 360whp they will take alot of abuse as long as a soft cut limiter is used and the rpms are kept around 7500, the valve train is notorious for having issues but its easy enough to solve the issue with dual guide mod and correctly shimming them.
As far as built motors go, 650whp is about the limit before you start to have issues with things like main caps cracking, crankwalk and would have to start looking at things like sleeves, billet main caps and billet girdles to tie the bottom end in. At 600whp or so they will still do well plenty of time attack and pro drift cars go well with that amount, the 7-8-900hp motors turning into more drag motors and needing far more more work to hold together. People forget the s chassis that these engines were intended for a so small and light they dont need a heap of power to get good performance from, whether with 360whp for beginners all the way up to 600whp for the pros and thats about as much as it was ever intended for when you pull the motor apart and see what they look like from the inside.
Great video! Sr20 is a diamond I’ve boosted my front wheel drive Sentra from na to built internals and bigger turbo over the years and she puts a smile on my face every time , she’s a keeper. I still own it today 👍
Are you from South Africa? We love fitting the VE into the Sentra
thanks for the video. Learnt more about my motor in 26mins than all my years trolling forums
The first time i ever saw the SR20 it was in an E30 & I'll never forget it
weee i got one
I seen one in an old Nissan hardbody truck.. I’m not sure what year but it was sweet, probably early/mid 90’s, it was slammed and had big chunky tires with the right amount of camber, and it had wide body fenders. It was stancey but still functional if that makes sense.
Love these teardowns, I learn so much!
Great shots, great editing, and fantastic explanations
Love the knowledge and insight in these videos. 22 years of S15 joy 🤩 and loving every minute
Hooray new engine review! ❤️
When you said In the bin at the end, I was waiting for Marty's face to pop up 😂😂
TOASTIE!
I nerd out on Tuning Fork's videos.
Hehe, don't we all...
Hello ”Haltech”! Thank you for showing us such a wonderful video! I feel so happy! I'm looking forward to your next work! Have a nice day!
Great video!! Thanks for all the detail
Here in the uk, we call the s14/s15 Sr20det a “bent-cam” and the s13 180sx “straight-cam” 👍🏻
The SR in the GTI-R was unique because it had quad throttle bodies
In the video he said that early SR20DET engines had a t25 turbo, but that's not accurate because in the GTI-R it used a t28 turbo.
He was referring to the S13 engine, in the context of the front engine - rear wheel drive config. But yes, you are correct the GTiR used a number of different components in the engine, turbo being one of them.
@@haltech That turbo worked very well in the GTI-R. It spooled quicker than the smaller t25 in the rps13 setup. Do you know why that would be? Is it because the GTI-R had a shorter charge pipe from having a top-mount intercooler, wheres the rps13 has a side-mount intercooler with a longer charge pipe?
@@beachforestmountain4269 GTiR variant had a surprisingly large amount of differences. It runs lower static compression (same pistons, but no quench pad on the combustion chamber), solid lifters / different cam profile, and runs different base ignition timing, as well as the ITB setup. Would be hard to say how each change contributes to performance
@@Sigfader180 Thanks. My old mate got the first GTI-R that arrived in New Zealand, he imported it himself before anyone had even heard of them. It was super fast back in those days. It had an exhaust and air filter, but not sure what boost it was running. I think they ran 12 psi standard, if I remember correctly. Whereas the sr20det in my rps13 180sx was running about 6 to 7 psi standard.
Lovely video as always, but I need to point something out. As others have said, rocker arm stoppers only make matters worse, as they trap the rockers in place and instead of just bouncing out, they tend to break and that can lead to bigger damage. Besides that, decking the engine head will not interfere with the timing case/oil pump, only if you re-deck the block. And lastly, you don't really need to remove the sump and timing case to remove the head, everything is separate, you can even remove the timing case without removing the head at all.
Besides that, as I said, lovely video and I love watching Tuning Fork tear down these engines and talk about them, can't wait to see even more videos like this
Great video, about a year a ago I picked up a 1996 200sx se-r and even though she's at 250,000 miles still runs strong. Only thing I've done to her is a water pump and timing kit. Getting ready to start playing more inside that engine, and this has been a pretty comprehensive video for me to work off of. Thanks!
Rad little car!!
I have a 97 se and I'm looking at buying a sr20det swapped 96 se. I freaking love that little car it handles so well and still fun to drive even with the currently low power output
Wow, this man here doubled down on the rocker arm stoppers. Wow, just wow.
awesome stuff really good video and heaps of detail
Glad you've enjoyed it.
Great episode. Nice work team
Rocker arms stoppers have only ever broken more stuff when the arm DOES try to fling loose compared to when it just pops out usually.
Man this brings me back to high school where me and my friends had all these plans with these engines
We're you gonna go to Race Wars?
The Nissan Silvia's heart
Great video Scott. Crazy to thing we might see new SR20 long motors available again :D
Very much recommend not to use rocker arm stoppers and to correctly measure your intake shim heights to level the rockers (precision shims make different height guides if you feel the need to do dual guide shims) and fit a new spring oe spring or aftermarket upgraded spring.
Ideally, new lifters as well but these in conjunction with a soft ignition cut should help avoid breaking any arms.
I have a U13 Bluebird it has a SR20 DET in it and it is 4WD.I also have a spare engine out of a 96 Primera that is supposed to be low milage . I have had the U13 for over twenty years and had no problems with it.
This was awesome! Do the GOAT'ed supersonic trumpet VQ Engine next please. 😁😁🎺🎺
My first engine. My first car Sentra SE-R. How I judge all the engines in the cars I drive after that. Thanks for the video!
love these videos mate , very good job
Thanks for another great informative video.
This content is really cool it would be nice to talk about other JDM brands too
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Rocker arm stoppers are the worst.
Back in 1998 i came up with the dual grooved shimmed setup. You will need to machine the rocker arm to get this setup done.
The best way to stabilize the SR head setup is. High pressure VE oil pump this keeps the lifters less likelyto colapsr, 98 and newer roller rocker SR hydraulic lifters which have the larger oil inlet hole and smaller top exit hole, aftermarket springs and the dual guide rocker arm setup.
Nice youtube video. I have been working on SRs since 1992.
Lucky enough I have a Nismo tuned ECU in mine and it’s got a soft limiter setting that has been awesome. Definitely does feel like it has a fuel cut within that setting buts it’s more or less rocket proofed the SR, it’s just nice hits the limiter your feel a very soft bounce and then you feel like you’ve lost power if you don’t shift. Guess they knew of the issue and addressed it with the ECU.
great video!
Finally. What I’ve been waiting for
Here in the US, we only got the FWD SR20DE. It only came in two cars, the Sentra SE-R and Infiniti G20(A rebadged Primera GT). :(
Sucks to be American 🤣
And the 200sx but it's basically a sentra coupe
Excellent video. Thanks for the tips.
VW/Audi 1.8T from the same era was awesome - so much power so easily. Above the Japanese 2.0’s and Aussie V8’s of the day.
Had one for 20 years, running 27psi and never had an oil leak or any issue
This is fantastic!!! So detailed! Thank you!! 🎉
Love haltech you guys rock!! Once I get my money up im having my car tuned with all your products!
Is there any video comparing all the modern/semi-modern inline 4s? As in, taking into account all aspects. Stock internals, stock head efficiency, ported head efficiency, aftermarket parts availability for beefier stuff, stock block limits, sleeving cost, engine weight, junkyard pull-ability, ease of converting say, a high compression hybrid/Atkinson variant into a high-performance variant, engine swap kit availability for various chassis and transmissions, etc?
I'd really like to see a deep dive on K series vs Ecotec vs Duratec vs SR vs 4G vs 2AR, etc. And TBH same for V6s, too. We need more V6 builds and good V6s in the world. Not every engine bay can fit an inline 6 (especially of substantial displacement) and not everybody can accept the limits of a 4-cylinder nor does that same crowd necessarily want the liability, complexity, and either excess power or underutilization of boost that an 8-cylinder provides.
Not to mention, the inline 6s of old are heavy iron ordeals that are legit worse than an LS engine, and the modern inline 6s? Expensive and rare. Except for the Vortec 4200 or OM606, but then we're back to the "too long" part.
Oh wow, for a brief moment I thought this was one of those videos which just reads the wikipedia page of said engine, because of the thumbnail. But it was actually an interesting video from haltec with tuning fork
So my built S15 did make 474kw@wheels on 32 pound. Was a great car
Love your k series video and showed my friend who loves the srt-4 dodge neon, if you’d be interested in doing one for those! Much love!
the K series wasnt debuted until 2001. but we still had the legendary B18C and F20C from honda in the 90s
I had two of these, and i agree. Lovely pull, lovely exhaust note.
I ran a n/a roller rocker sr20de in a n15 chassis up to 192whp. 8.5k redline. Awesome.
First witnessed this beauty's power in my buddy's GTI-r wow😂😮
Forget rocket arm stoppers. By now most people should know about the dual guide shim mod.
Shimmy shimmy yay shimmy yay gimme the Mic so I can take it away
@@nolesy34 😆😆
I got the most basic and neutered version of this engine and it still amazes me to this day
I had a built red top with a normal oil pan and had oil pickup issue….luckily my buddy new right away after first start up and no damage was done😅
There’s also another engine that’s STILL not on anybody’s radar; the venerable KA24E/DE. Monster engines when you dig into them.
Often laughed at as being a "truck motor'.
But those who know, know.
Would rather have a KA24DET than a spun bearing. XD
What about the early sr20’s NA’s in the SSS pulsars. ?😊
The Opel C20XE was another monster of an engine from the 90`s...
11:30 Funfact, the CA18ET out of the S12 had sensor there, they went cheap for the S13 onwards....
Prior to this video, I knew very little about the SR20, beyond the basics - 2.0L, dual overhead cam, etc.
This has been really enlightening!
Any chance of doing a similar video for the 3SGE/3SGTE? :)
Which would be regarded as the best sr20?
Black top, red top, notch top or the sr20vet ???
Red top! 20valve,
Oh wait thats Toyoda
@@nolesy34 hahahahahahahhahahahaahah touché on the contrary Red top 16 valve oh wait that Honda k20
Black top. And if u wanna get into Frankenstein engines, A DET bottom end with a p11/p12 VE head.
@@lennixsingh626 🫶
A video about the CA18DET would be great
@7:23 Rocker Arm stoppers are a bad idea. They won’t stop rocker arms for falling. But it will guarantee that the rocker arms get wedged between the camshaft lifters, shredding them into pieces. Where without rocker arm stoppers there is a small chance the rocker arm just falls off.
thought i spun a bearing in my sr but it was the lifters dried out due to sitting to long
K series came out in 2001 not quite the 90s but close enough ❤❤❤
Thank you Im new Sub :)
Planning to put a sr20det in my Nissan avenir🙏
I believe the SR20VE VVL head has a valvetrain that can't throw rockers.
@wrx2hot4u not on the cam but shaft mounted
i would love one of these for the 16v 4AGE
YES supercharged little rockets
Rather than a fuel cut rev limit, can the Haltech do a soft limit with a DBW throttle body instead?
Rocker stoppers do such a good job at keeping the rocker arm in place the arm breaks because they are fragile. You cant stop it from spitting rocker arms its fair easier to fix with out rockers stoppers. If it spits and arm worth out a stoppers its rare is breaks and cant be fixed easy. Stoppers will nearly 100% of the time break a broken arm when it happens. Taper the torque curve at the top of the rpm, soft limiter and 2 step or antilag if you got the time to be re fitting the rocker arms. If you are building making both shims locater shims makes a better difference then stoppers. Thats my 2 cents
Correct valve springs and correctly shimmed to keep the rocker flat on the cam is also going to massively help stop throwing rockers.
Campaigned an SR20 and later SR20DET for nearly a decade in wheel to wheel, and have run one for decades in Offroad stuff. Made 462whp in a street car, revved the racecar to 8,000rpm, etc.
Only time I ever chucked a rocker arm was when my buddy misshifted from 3rd to 2nd. Quality valve springs and matching cam (I only run JWT) and you’ll be fine.
My rocker arms still broke even tho i had no rocker arm stopper. But if i had one it wouldve probably jammed the valves open and bent a valve . New rocker arm was 60-70bucks and an hour of work . Ditch those rocker arm stoppers they really make it worse 👍🏾
Had d ca18 red top that engine was sweet bt coulda brake axcel
Uhh, Honda's K series engines came to market in the 2000's. Not the 90's.
Sr20det 4 Life
What do you guys think about converting the rocker arm bolts to studs? I heard they do this in Japan
We got the SR20DE altima here in the Philippines, the US got also the SR20DE on the B13 and the B13 GT-S got the SR18DE.. which was a shame, i wished for the SR powered B13 here in the Philippines but we got a GA13DS, GA14DS, GA15DE, and GA16DE B13/B14
Wow they made it so easy now a day with plug and play ECU then back in the day when i put in my first sr20 in my s13 like 20 years ago it was tough back then but now it seem easier now a day.
So is the sr20det the same motor as the N/A Version that was found in the sentra and some infinitis?
I do not recommend using “Rocker Arm Stoppers”. If you throw an arm it will do more harm!
Completely agree, It completely destroyed my head when I threw rockers with the stoppers on. Took them off and it just pops out, no biggie
Had a sr20det 1992 bluebird U13 manual.Torquey engine,went well.
Genesis 1:3,4 and 5 “…and on the eighth day God created SR20, and he saw that it was good…reeeeeeeeal good”
What? no comment on the main bearing cap girdle? Then again it's not like it's a k motor. Can oil squirters be easily fitted to an N A engine? I have a Serena van one with rear distributor and rear facing throttle body . Will that work in a longitudinal application?
U12 Bluebird SSS or known in the USA as the Nissan Stanza!
@SuperBozz to most, it just looks like another 90’s jap car lol
Was planning on stripping my motor back and changing the timing chain, will this require the motor to come out as stated the pan and lower sump needs to come off is this true? Or will I be able to change it in the vehicle
Any links to that Haltech engine plug in play ecu and harness?
www.haltech.com/product-category/nissan/
I miss the nonny nonnies. At least we still have jewel overhead cam engines. 😁
Missing the xtrail gt sr20vet neo engine 206kw engine in this video
What exactly is the website for the SR20DET Creat Engine that you guys talked about on this video
Some wrong info there the s14a had coil on plug and only had 200bhp in the uk models
SR20 GODS MOTOR
Yeah but you forgot about the RNN 14 SR20. 20 degree advance, LOW compression ratio, solid *sodium* lifters, huge oil squirters, better PVC, forged conrod and crank.
Good for >1000KW heh heh heh.
can you use the fwd version in a rwd application
When will you guys do a harness for the neovvl??
Why? Is it parachuting tomorrow?
@@nolesy34 landed
@@mikeschaner5853 thank God was in suspense while it was in the air *prayers.🙏
@Nolesy actually the sr20vet neo. Came out of an xtrail acrually. Been in the car for a hot minute. Having issues finding someone to do a harness, not something i trust myself doing, and i have the haltech elite 1500. Thanks for the emotional support though.. was definitely a tense 12 days in shipping 😆
@@mikeschaner5853 no worries brother
We need a what's so special on the Honda B - series
My tuner story:
Had a 240sx as a first car in 1999. Loved that car.
Paid a guy for a CA18DET. He ripped me off, never got the engine.
Ordered an red top SR20 from Japan and shipped to my local tuner Ftuning. Jason can eat poo poo.
Engine arived locked up, bent rods.
Paid Ftuning to rebuilt it. Order all parts, pistons, rods, studs blah blah.
Jason from Ftuning in Idaho screwed me and put some flat top pistons from a 300zx in my block.
It always detonated, sounded like a coffe can full off nuts and bolts rolling down a hill. It was trash. I even had standalone ecu on it. He would not fix it. I hate Jason from Ftuning.
Drove a 350z for a couple years. Awesome car. Shoulda never sold it.
This guy rolls up in an 96' Skyline GTST one day at my work. Told me it was imported legal and all taxes paid.
Drove it for a couple years. Such a fun car.
Governemnt knocked on my door, they wanted it more than i did apparently. Gone.
I must be an idiot.
I have a 69' datsun 510 wagon with an L20, header, 5 speed swap, coils up front, air shocks out back, custom alumn fuel cell. Sitting 400 miles away from me, cant even work on it.
Love cars but god i hate cars.
So, is there any difference between the actual blocks from s13/14 to s15? If I got an s13 block could I just put s15 parts in it?
Let’s see a comparison to the earlier FJ20et engine. 😁
A jet engine?
Is the main difference between FWD / RWD is the configuration of piping for the chassis? Could theoretically put the FWD engine in a RWD application?
Nope, not even close to working
Engine mounts are different too, the whole block is different
Mine had had 500k on it before I sold it, didn't burn a drop and a smooth torque curve, went hard for a NA stock. n15 sss
Still have my redtop, but needs a tune to get running