Disney's Failed Next Big Thing: The Sorcerer's Apprentice

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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
  • In the early 2010's Disney tried to recapture the magic of Pirates of the Caribbean by pumping out big budget blockbusters that went on to bomb at the box office. 2010's The Sorcerer's Apprentice is great example of this. In this video essay I examine what exactly went wrong, and offer some of my thoughts on the film.
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  • @kadenthehuman
    @kadenthehuman Месяц назад +5973

    I actually remember really liking sorcerers apprentice

  • @krackawoody2556
    @krackawoody2556 Месяц назад +2852

    The reason these movies flopped is cus the people who actually really enjoyed them (us) were children and weren’t the one’s making reviews or paying the money to see it unfortunately. Boomers are the ones that hated these movies.
    The Tesla Coil scene has stuck with me my whole life i thought it was amazing.

    • @yuujin2490
      @yuujin2490 Месяц назад +36

      Yeah, after that, we made a project for speaker through arc from CRT flyback

    • @markusostertag3032
      @markusostertag3032 Месяц назад +46

      I AM a boomer, and also liked it - dont give up on us so easily
      Then again - i pretty much like all movies with Nicolas Cage in it.

    • @LelouchRodriguez
      @LelouchRodriguez Месяц назад +2

      faxx

    • @morginstjarna
      @morginstjarna Месяц назад +16

      Speak for yourself. I was a grown ass man enjoying this film. LOL!

    • @eel5618
      @eel5618 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@markusostertag3032Nic Cage is the GOAT

  • @nolan_aint_all_that
    @nolan_aint_all_that Месяц назад +3163

    Tomorrowland and The Sorcerer's Apprentice are 100 times better than whatever creatively bankrupt franchises they are milking right now tbh.

    • @ajvonline
      @ajvonline Месяц назад +66

      Sadly, yes.

    • @yb554
      @yb554 Месяц назад +68

      Agreed. I liked this one. Tomorrowland was kinda creepy.

    • @itsblingblingpop8636
      @itsblingblingpop8636 Месяц назад +80

      I would much prefer Disney (or any company,for that matter) release "flop" movies that are actually original than running franchises and IPs to the ground

    • @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
      @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Месяц назад +5

      Tomorrowland, maybe, but The Sorcerer's Apprentice definitely isn't.
      At the very least, Toy Story 4 took a big risk.

    • @itsblingblingpop8636
      @itsblingblingpop8636 Месяц назад +29

      @@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Tbh I would count The Sorcerer's Apprentice as "Original" because the source material is like. A short film within a film with two characters. The 2010 movie script broadens the concept enough that I would put in the same shelf as Tomorrowland (which in itself is based on a Disney Park ride so). Could it be better? Yes obviously, but i'll take it anyway.
      Tbh I can't speak for TS4 as I stopped watching at TS3 because the idea of continuing the franchise just didn't speak to me (but then, I am also not the target audience for that one). I just wish if they were to explore within franchises that they actually gave us enough time to actually miss those franchises.

  • @chrismcdonald2947
    @chrismcdonald2947 Месяц назад +1998

    Disagree...Jay Baruchel was a great casting as the awkward normal guy who suddenly gets to learn magic. It was also not made for kids, it was made for teens and young adults born in the 90s

    • @montgomeryfitzpatrick473
      @montgomeryfitzpatrick473 Месяц назад +36

      He's more of a third or fourth string "McLovin" type. Has absolutely none of the awkward charisma appeal of comparable men like Justin Long

    • @JawnNawva
      @JawnNawva Месяц назад +27

      Well it didn’t reach that either bc that was my demo and I thought “this movie is not for me” lmao

    • @ha-in4984
      @ha-in4984 Месяц назад +14

      This is the end showed me he was terrible. He was playing himself too which made it even worse.

    • @ashleyjaytanna1953
      @ashleyjaytanna1953 Месяц назад

      ..gravity

    • @SumitRana-life314
      @SumitRana-life314 Месяц назад +5

      I liked him as well.

  • @Thunderous117
    @Thunderous117 Месяц назад +1348

    The tesla coil scene with the music was something that always stuck in my mind, guess I am just sappy

    • @chrisblanc663
      @chrisblanc663 Месяц назад +15

      I see what you did there! Big fan!!

    • @kaizerk4321
      @kaizerk4321 Месяц назад +9

      Probably wear old man shoes too....XD
      Loved that scene too btw

    • @Arsenal_supremacy24
      @Arsenal_supremacy24 Месяц назад +7

      I’m gonna give all my secrets away ~

    • @chitaravfz
      @chitaravfz Месяц назад +3

      Cemented Secrets as one of my guilty pleasure songs i put on repeat, just too good

    • @Acuas
      @Acuas Месяц назад

      It was for me too, always remembered that song just for that scene, I really loved the film, and rewatch it from time to time when I'm feeling bored. But I'm also known to like this type of films that most people say are bad, loved the Percy Jackson films (tho I love anything with mithology in it), Eragon is another big one for me, would never say they are top films, but surely in my favourite list.

  • @joshuaadams8240
    @joshuaadams8240 Месяц назад +1330

    There's a scene in this movie where it's explained that the good wizard and bad wizard were stuck in a jar for 10 years, and the bad wizard complains about the reading material, and that has lived in my mind rent free ever since.

    • @cory2477
      @cory2477 Месяц назад +89

      I still vaguely remember a scene from this movie I watched many years ago. In it, I learned/reminded or thought that the difference between sorcerers and wizards is that one uses a wand while the other doesn't.

    • @erikleith4670
      @erikleith4670 Месяц назад +3

      same lol

    • @houndofculann1793
      @houndofculann1793 Месяц назад +25

      The reading material in question was a short essay the 10-year-old main character had written for school, it got sucked up into the jar with the wizards.

    • @silverwurm
      @silverwurm 24 дня назад

      I was nine!

    • @kingsteel2972
      @kingsteel2972 17 дней назад

      ​@@houndofculann1793 the Essay was about Napoleon

  • @dodiswatchbobobo
    @dodiswatchbobobo Месяц назад +651

    I disagree that children’s media NEEDS a child protagonist.

    • @meanotaku
      @meanotaku Месяц назад +26

      I agree with you i loved this movie as kid and disliked harry potter

    • @brennanhunt2722
      @brennanhunt2722 Месяц назад +69

      IMO, I agree, children's movies that have an ADULT protagonist make them want to be like that adult. That's all kids want to be, is adults.

    • @marsthewargod2095
      @marsthewargod2095 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@brennanhunt2722 I couldn't have said it better

    •  Месяц назад +22

      i used to imagine myself like:
      "once i grow up and reach that age, I might discover that I have a hidden power and save the world!"
      it used to be the highlight of each of my birthday until i lost hope

    • @Mngalahad
      @Mngalahad Месяц назад +4

      Well i think he mainly meant it in this movie; where a seemingly millenial man is the protagonist. Rather than a character like mulan and aladin.

  • @emilioqlozano2318
    @emilioqlozano2318 Месяц назад +807

    John Carter, Tron Legacy, Lone Ranger. I know these films bombed critically and financially but these films are way better then most of the blockbusters made today, at least Disney took somewhat of a risk with these films and also love the film look of late 2000s and early 2010s films before everything went all out Digital looking.

    • @mikavirtanen7029
      @mikavirtanen7029 Месяц назад +54

      Tron Legacy pretty much got even in the box office, depending of the marketing costs. It MAY have even made some money for Disney on it's theatrical run. Even if i have some issues with John Carter, because i am a lifelong Edgar Rice Burroughs fan, that movie's bombing was a shame. Lone Ranger however was crap...Disney's cash grab to make Pirates of the Caribbean in the West with Verbinski and Depp was dull and unfunny...total charisma black hole Armie Hammer destroying The Lone Ranger character with his idiot antics was just the tip of the iceberg of failure.

    • @junpeixix
      @junpeixix Месяц назад +76

      Tron Legacy's soundtrack, composed by Daft Punk, is unarguably one of the best movie soundtracks of all time.

    • @contingencyradiology8544
      @contingencyradiology8544 Месяц назад +21

      ​@@junpeixix I have to agree that it is one of the best scores which masquerades as a soundtrack. The score will date over time but for when it was composed, Oscar-worthy

    • @quangamershyguyyz7166
      @quangamershyguyyz7166 Месяц назад +3

      (Thanos voice): Perhaps we treated these films too harshly.

    • @maomi1852
      @maomi1852 Месяц назад +2

      I really liked those movies

  • @Jake_Indie
    @Jake_Indie Месяц назад +137

    Secrets by One Republic Scene got me into music and science

  • @danielsleeper2307
    @danielsleeper2307 Месяц назад +82

    This is the pinnacle of "Disney tries something and it didn't hit for whatever reason" to me. This is the first thing I'll always think of when people talk about Disney experimenting. Honestly, this really deserved more love. I loved it as a kid and still do now really. It's not a masterpiece of cinema but it still works. The worldbuilding/magic/etc. is incredibly fun and it's endlessly quotable for me. I will also say the three main leads (Balthazar, Dave, and Horvath) are played to perfection. Really every actor understood the assignment on this one. Absolutely underrated movie that's perfect for an easy, good, fun night.

  • @astrobat1638
    @astrobat1638 Месяц назад +508

    Technically speaking, this is the only reason why Disney has currently stuck to making live action remakes instead of new IPs today.

    • @arcturus4762
      @arcturus4762 Месяц назад +71

      Despite being the very incarnation of corporate greed, it’s hard not to empathize after the “took risks and failed too many times so gave up” sequence of events

    • @Acuas
      @Acuas Месяц назад +10

      Well, to be fair, if we don't count some of the Marvel movies, this old flops like Sorcerers Aprentice, Tron Legacy, John Carter are all better than whatever they're releasing now, I'd pay to watch any of those before going to see most of the new ones for free...

    • @aaronnilestoussaint5672
      @aaronnilestoussaint5672 16 дней назад +1

      @@arcturus4762 this wasnt really risky during the time a bunch of big name actors and huge promotion and its basically around Harry Potter peak the issue is Disney made movies that couldnt become a trilogy. And they realize this and its why they just brought Marvel and Star Wars because those universes are established and they can just hand pick someone instead of using actual creativity

  • @RHJunior
    @RHJunior Месяц назад +207

    simple. they broke the first rule of urban fantasy genre: DON'T REVEAL TOO MUCH-- IF ANYTHING-- AT THE BEGINNING. The viewer is supposed to experience what the viewpoint protagonist is experiencing:a mysterious new world unfolding, piece by piece, in the middle of the mundane. in the Sorcerer's Apprentice, they literally revealed the ENTIRE PLOT AND BACKSTORY right in the first thirty seconds. As a voiceover. By Nicolas Cage.

    • @joestrike8537
      @joestrike8537 9 дней назад

      That's what the studio did to Alex Proyas' 'Dark City' because they didn't trust the audience to go along with the mystery and learn the big picture along with the protagonist. Instead, they added a Keifer Sutherland voice over at the beginning of the film explaining the entire plot in detail. (Blu-ray has the original director's cut; the film is great but Proyas' version makes it even better.)

  • @luigiboyinblu
    @luigiboyinblu Месяц назад +148

    The scene I could never forget about (and I learned to make peace with it) is when the protagonist shows her crush the Tesla coils and starts playing Secrets by OneRepublic for her using the sounds of the electricity. In retrospect that was kinda cool.

  • @YoGizmo353
    @YoGizmo353 Месяц назад +471

    I loved this movie as a kid. Even rewatching it a few months ago I thought it was still pretty decent, although it’s a bit rough around the edges.
    Also loved the “Secrets” scene. Idk, it’s lived in my head rent free since I saw it.

    • @isenhartproductions2677
      @isenhartproductions2677  Месяц назад +28

      It's a solid movie, lots of parts to love in it

    • @anilove5938
      @anilove5938 Месяц назад +17

      Everytime i hear secrets, that scene plays in my mind, i loved this movie

    • @chrisblanc663
      @chrisblanc663 Месяц назад

      Secrets? Did I miss something??

    • @xdecatron2985
      @xdecatron2985 Месяц назад +7

      @@chrisblanc663The One Republic song, “Secrets,” was featured heavily in the promotion of this film and in one scene if the movie in particular where Jay Baruchel’s character programs a device to respond to the song.

    • @chrisblanc663
      @chrisblanc663 Месяц назад +6

      @@xdecatron2985 oh, gotcha. Didn’t know that was the name of the song. Yeah. The movie did use that song really well. Probably the best scene of the movie, with the plasma music, and his sappy explanation. Almost makes it seem like he could have a chance with the girl. 🙃

  • @MikeOrtego
    @MikeOrtego Месяц назад +178

    Far from perfect and I can certainly understand people's misgivings or luke warmness towards the film but this movie is like comfort food to me. There's just something about it that makes me want to watch it while laying down on my couch during a rainy day or a day I'm sick. The visual effects alone make it enjoyable for me. I'm not a fan of stuff like Harry Potter so I guess that's why I appreciated the young adult lead. Also Nic Cage and Alfred Molina are really fun to watch. I think the whole cast had pretty good chemistry!

    • @AWhite-wo9pz
      @AWhite-wo9pz Месяц назад +7

      I love Harry Potter, but this movie is also like comfort food to me. It may not be the greatest thing out there, but it makes me want to sit down and finish all of it while relishing the experience.

    • @joaquinvaleri7022
      @joaquinvaleri7022 Месяц назад

      I like the surname Molina and sorry for ruin the surname Molina

    • @joaquinvaleri7022
      @joaquinvaleri7022 Месяц назад

      ​@@AWhite-wo9pzi like the name Harry and sorry for ruin the name Harry

    • @clariza.b
      @clariza.b Месяц назад +4

      Omg, same, this is like comfort food to me also. I don't know, there's something about things from the 2010s that feel so stable and happy and grounded.

    • @MikeOrtego
      @MikeOrtego Месяц назад +3

      @@clariza.b it's a generation thing I think. I feel the same way about a lot of things from the 80s and 90s

  • @sari5749
    @sari5749 Месяц назад +72

    Secrets by One Republic will always remind me of this movie. I love that scene!

  • @smileandnodd
    @smileandnodd Месяц назад +41

    IMO, the Sorcerer's Apprentice was way better than a lot of the movies that came out that year. Movies like Clash of the Titans, Tron, and Alice Wonderland were popular simply because they were adaptations and already have notoriety. Whereas Sorcerer's Apprentice was novel, high quality, and creative. If it was made today, it would have been all the rage. Kind of like Constantine.

    • @kaelang12
      @kaelang12 27 дней назад +1

      Which Tron, tho: the game sequel, the midquel, or the actual sequel?

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 19 дней назад

      I don't know if I'm missing something in your comment but Constantine was adapted from popular cult comics, Sorcerer's Apprentice as the video mentioned was a segment of Fantasia that was based on older folk tales; I remember multiple version of that folk tale from anthologies when I was a kid. If you got a few big books of fairy tales as a kid, you read the Sorcerer's Apprentice. It's not a novel story at all. Literally everything you mention is an adaptation. I don't think the fact they're adaptations is what gave those properties notoriety. If you meant they were notorious already, I still don't see how they were different than Constantine, who was a popular character in the demographic they were trying to appeal to. I'm confused by your comment.

  • @jasonkinda6814
    @jasonkinda6814 Месяц назад +365

    Love the Disney flop series

    • @isenhartproductions2677
      @isenhartproductions2677  Месяц назад +19

      Thank you !

    • @suzygirl1843
      @suzygirl1843 Месяц назад +5

      @@isenhartproductions2677 You hate Disney so much, you would refuse to watch Nicolas Cage as a wizard? Damn.

    • @GaryKetchum808
      @GaryKetchum808 Месяц назад +2

      Bro earned a sub like he’s running a firehouse 🔥

    • @TheGrifhinx
      @TheGrifhinx Месяц назад

      ​@@suzygirl1843shut up Suzy

    • @quangamershyguyyz7166
      @quangamershyguyyz7166 Месяц назад

      @@GaryKetchum808Ahh, the cringe! It burns!!

  • @who3033
    @who3033 Месяц назад +243

    I love how much of a recurring theme Despicable Me is in these videos

    • @isenhartproductions2677
      @isenhartproductions2677  Месяц назад +47

      Disney can't win against the power of the minions

    • @zillauniverse7208
      @zillauniverse7208 Месяц назад +10

      Same thing happened to John Carter were it lost to The Lorax (yes I know it’s not Despicable Me but it is still from the same studio Illumination)

    • @joaquinvaleri7022
      @joaquinvaleri7022 Месяц назад

      ​@@zillauniverse7208hey no offend but i don't like the redisgn of super mario bros movie and they didn't nominated for an oscar

    • @joaquinvaleri7022
      @joaquinvaleri7022 Месяц назад

      ​@@zillauniverse7208so boooohhh

  • @manuelmialdea5127
    @manuelmialdea5127 Месяц назад +187

    I love how The Sorcerer didn't had a name back then but now everyone knows him as Yen Sid because of Kingdom Hearts.

    • @joestrike8537
      @joestrike8537 9 дней назад

      I think the Disney animators came up with "Yen Sid" back when they were first making the movie, and it was simply an inside joke ("Yen Sid" is Disney backwards) until things like Kingdom Hearts made it popularly known.

  • @joaovictor_of
    @joaovictor_of Месяц назад +29

    The lightning cage scene with music has lived rent-free in my head since I first saw that movie. I never rewatched it, I don't think it would hold up to my scrutinous adult eyes, but it was a fun time for 10-year-old me.

  • @jasonpark1556
    @jasonpark1556 Месяц назад +290

    Like harry potter but if the character was more relatable and the magic seemed more realistic instead of just a light ball that does 3,000 different things

    • @Wavecheckfoo
      @Wavecheckfoo Месяц назад +20

      I never thought about that 😂 hp really Is just different colored balls of light 😂 outside of the occasional laser or curse/hex

    • @jasonpark1556
      @jasonpark1556 Месяц назад +30

      @@Wavecheckfoo fr, at some point it just becomes boring since all the "magic" is just a ball, and then they be saying shit like it's magic so powerful it's forbidden but then it's the same ball you see every other mage do. Like it's just boring, the sorcerers apprentice actually shows a variety of magic, each one unique to the spell they cast

    • @joaquinvaleri7022
      @joaquinvaleri7022 Месяц назад +1

      I like the name Harry and sorry for ruin the name Harry

    • @conversesarecool
      @conversesarecool Месяц назад +1

      So, like Harry Dresden

    • @joaquinvaleri7022
      @joaquinvaleri7022 Месяц назад

      @@conversesarecool is an actor?

  • @Exile559
    @Exile559 Месяц назад +7

    Jay Baruchel is an extremely underrated actor.
    Making a sequel now that he's a bit older would be great. You can emphasize the training he's under gone.

    • @lavasharkflowers
      @lavasharkflowers 23 дня назад +1

      But then he would be replaced by a better and stronger female character

  • @carlosalmenar4499
    @carlosalmenar4499 Месяц назад +133

    This movie was fireee

    • @bradleye660
      @bradleye660 Месяц назад +1

      No it wasn’t lmao. This movie was steamy dogshit. It was a pathetic attempt at a Harry Potter / Percy Jackson movie.

    • @davidturner6280
      @davidturner6280 Месяц назад +4

      @@bradleye660 It was not dogshit, as the video said, it was mid. But comparing it to the new disney movies, this one is awesome.

    • @m3vm3
      @m3vm3 Месяц назад +1

      @@bradleye660it wasn’t even an attempt to be a Harry Potter / Percy Jackson film

    • @kwekkwek-gj6ku
      @kwekkwek-gj6ku Месяц назад

      ​@@bradleye660 lol clown

  • @Pepe-cj1pz
    @Pepe-cj1pz Месяц назад +136

    Can't wait for The Prince of Persia video

    • @isenhartproductions2677
      @isenhartproductions2677  Месяц назад +27

      Writing it right now. Although its been my least favorite one in the series so far unfortunately

    • @pontiacgrandcam
      @pontiacgrandcam Месяц назад +26

      @@isenhartproductions2677omg no I love Prince of Persia AND this movie too 😂

    • @sari5749
      @sari5749 Месяц назад +7

      @@pontiacgrandcam glad to know I'm not alone. Both movies are still alive in my hard drive 😁

    • @Victoria-_
      @Victoria-_ Месяц назад +4

      Omg I LOVED that movie

    • @cg6176
      @cg6176 Месяц назад

      Omg I forgot this movoe exists

  • @cremefrech6280
    @cremefrech6280 Месяц назад +12

    Fun fact: "The Sorcerers Apprentice" or in German "Der Zauberlehring" originated from a ballad written by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

    • @joestrike8537
      @joestrike8537 9 дней назад

      That fact isn't funny at all! 😛

  • @aditbiju3717
    @aditbiju3717 Месяц назад +8

    I actually loved The Sorcerer’s Apperience and I did see the effort there mostly in its acting and visual effects. But it is sad that we didn’t get an sequel due to the box office performance, of three things and I do agree with these factors
    - Overbudget, which if the story doesn’t match up with the budget, then maybe some problems with the budget unfortunately.
    - Hard to market: I did feel like there were like the Harry Potter vibes in it and that they are trying to make the next Harry Potter. Which unfortunately didn’t work out.
    - Tough box office: It went up against with two of my favorite films that is Inception and Descable Me in which they were more successful. Despicable Me not so sure at the time for me, but Inception for sure because of Christopher Nolan due to his successful film that is The Dark Knight at the time back in 2008.
    These are something I do agree with this video.
    Very well-said.

  • @shikig4mis
    @shikig4mis Месяц назад +17

    I remember watching it at the theater as a 13 year old, and back then I LOVED IT. My classmates and I left the room in awe, super hyped, feeling like we could be wizards too. I have to disagree for the most part cause I don't think this was a movie directed towards kids, instead it feels made for pre-teens/teens like me at the time of release. At that age I could not care less about the movie slowing down to show and develop the main character's love story with his crush, or that it sorta becomes his "training arc" for like 30 mins. That was actually the best part, and the one I most remember. The scene where they play Secrets by One Republic changed my brain chemistry forever.
    Watching it with our seasoned adult eyes changes the perspective and of course, makes you realise it has certain flaws. But I can assure you, it's a movie I hold dear to my heart cause my teen self ADORED the feeling after leaving the theatre that day.

  • @connerwilson142
    @connerwilson142 Месяц назад +56

    I watched this movie the night before my dad had a stroke. After that our lives fell apart and my dad ended up paralyzed and divorced my mom, leaving my brothers and my mom on the poverty line. The song "secrets" from that movie reminds me of my life before the collapse. Nice to reminisce and wonder how life would've been if he never had that stroke that night

    • @remuslazar2033
      @remuslazar2033 Месяц назад +4

      I am sorry to hear that. Please stay strong. How are things going now?

    • @selenalily130
      @selenalily130 Месяц назад +4

      I hope you're doing well now ❤.

    • @connerwilson142
      @connerwilson142 Месяц назад +5

      @@remuslazar2033 thanks ❤️ things have improved since then but our family remains broken

    • @connerwilson142
      @connerwilson142 Месяц назад +1

      @@selenalily130 thank you ❤️

  • @chelleyroberts
    @chelleyroberts Месяц назад +60

    Cage was trying to Dresden so hard in this film. I always got the feeling he would have loved being able to play Harry Dresden if only he would have been given the part.

    • @PanicGiraffe
      @PanicGiraffe Месяц назад +1

      You just brought me back to the summer I binged the whole series. It takes off around book 6 and it goes to shit after book 12.

    • @FredHicks
      @FredHicks Месяц назад

      His production company was involved in the SyFy series. Then he turned up wanting to play a wizard.

    • @vancemcneil9716
      @vancemcneil9716 Месяц назад +1

      Jim Butcher was pretty annoyed with this film, IIRC.

    • @dragonairre9634
      @dragonairre9634 Месяц назад

      @@vancemcneil9716 Can't find a source for this, Jim was annoyed with the first iteration of the DF TV show and said smth about forgiving this movie for the similarity in art directions but that's about it.
      Nick was apparently one of the producers for the DF TV show too, so lol.

    • @vancemcneil9716
      @vancemcneil9716 Месяц назад

      @dragonairre9634 I'm not sure if his website's forums still exist as most of that community seems to be on reddit now. However, he mentioned it in one of his occasional comments there.
      He didn't explicitly say that he was pissed, or bitter, but his high level of sarcasm while commenting on the possible similarities between Cage's character and a certain wizard certainly implied that he was disgruntled.

  • @RariettyC
    @RariettyC Месяц назад +16

    I don't think this movie is amazing but I also vastly prefer this style of animated film reboot than the straight-up remakes Disney is making now. If Disney needs every big-budget film to be attached to a pre-existing IP, I'd much rather have them be based on thinly-veiled original ideas that draw inspiration or that pay homage rather than scripts that regurgitate characters and plotlines that have already been done better.
    Pirates of the Caribbean succeeded in the first place because it felt more like "let's make a good modern pirate movie" instead of "let's make a movie based on this Disneyland ride", and yet merely being based on things is what defines so many modern Disney movies.

  • @MrDj232
    @MrDj232 Месяц назад +14

    This analysis really makes it clear to me that a little restructuring could have improved the movie without major alterations. Doll goes missing, experienced sorcerers start training their apprentices, romance subplot gets in the way of training, doll gets found and act 2 is a big imaginative fight sequence, big bad gets released for the climax. Just moving act 2 to act 1 and combining acts 1 and 3 minus the climax and finale provides a much better structure for the story.

  • @scribeofrebirth1431
    @scribeofrebirth1431 Месяц назад +7

    I remember seeing this movie in theaters and really loving it! I still adore this movie as an adult!

  • @blaketfg9374
    @blaketfg9374 Месяц назад +5

    John Carter deserves to be a series. It's the book series that inspired both Dune and Star Wars. It is the original Sci Fi, well as sci fi as you can get in 1912. Mind controlling, False Gods, Gems that hold light, the name Sith itself, giant ship battles, desert planets. Star wars is more like this than Dune but that book series was the first time science fiction was mainstream and its fantasy elements and western elements inspired basically every story to come after it. Sad that it didn't get its fair shot as Star wars got and Dune is getting right now since it is really the original and should be mainstream again

  • @eirikjormundgandrson
    @eirikjormundgandrson Месяц назад +54

    I guess I'm one of the few that actually liked this movie, I didn't think it was a flop at all. I was entertained.

    • @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
      @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Месяц назад +12

      The thing about being a flop is that you don't get to decide that, it refers to whether or not it made money during the run at the box office.
      Office Space is considered a flop, but it's also a beloved cult classic that many people enjoy. But, like, it'd be really stupid to say "I didn't think it was a flop at all. I was entertained."

    • @eirikjormundgandrson
      @eirikjormundgandrson Месяц назад +3

      @@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 bruh, it's just a movie. Calm down.

    • @RachelRichards
      @RachelRichards Месяц назад +3

      ​@@eirikjormundgandrson- he was right tho

    • @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
      @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Месяц назад

      @@eirikjormundgandrson I wasn't taking a movie too seriously, I was saying it's really dumb to say "I don't think this movie is a flop because I like it."

    • @eirikjormundgandrson
      @eirikjormundgandrson Месяц назад +2

      @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 literally everyone would say something is not a flop if they liked it. You know why? Because everyone's experiences are personal to themselves. They don't make opinions based on everyone else's consensus (if they do, then they're npc sheeple). It doesn't matter if the averages say it's a flop, if you like something, then it's not a flop TO YOU.
      And I wasn't saying you were taking that specific movie seriously, I was implying you were taking movie reviewing in general too seriously, if you can't let a comment slide by without feeling the need to butt in and try to belittle them, calling them stupid/dumb for having an opinion. If you don't recognize that, then I can't help you, and good luck in the real world with that strategy.

  • @ryanreviews8566
    @ryanreviews8566 Месяц назад +17

    going up against inception & minions was insane. wtf were they thinking lol this was such a fun movie too

    • @quangamershyguyyz7166
      @quangamershyguyyz7166 Месяц назад +4

      It’s almost like those were the first movies in their respective franchises and no one would have known how massive they would end up being or something.

  • @delsinmcgrath882
    @delsinmcgrath882 Месяц назад +32

    I love this movie. One of my favorite movies growing up and I will not apologize for it 😂

  • @ooze448
    @ooze448 Месяц назад +53

    Wdym he's not relatable they literally gave him the Peter parker treatment

  • @Mgooy
    @Mgooy Месяц назад +43

    Fun fact, outside the US it's called the Philosopher's Apprentice

    • @gaiusfulmen
      @gaiusfulmen Месяц назад +10

      Kind of funny how the word "philosopher" is associated with magic in much of the world, considering philosophy has been a very real, very non-magical occupation since classical times.

    • @1kaz1
      @1kaz1 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@gaiusfulmen Probably from the alchemists' interest in philosophy and vice versa in that time period

    • @doomsdayrabbit4398
      @doomsdayrabbit4398 Месяц назад +8

      ​@@1kaz1It's a joke because of Harry Potter. The titular "Sorcerer's Stone" of the first book is the alchemical Philosopher's Stone, but because they thought American kids were dumb and wouldn't have any interest in philosopher's anything because "philosophy is boring" or some BS, they renamed the book and the item within for US audiences. Cut to six years later and here's Fullmetal Alchemist, Philosopher's Stone in tow, not confusing or boring anyone because *you just need a story to be good* for people to like it. You can call your McGuffin the Jaroodian Gloft and if your story is solid, people will enjoy it.

    • @1kaz1
      @1kaz1 Месяц назад +3

      @@doomsdayrabbit4398 i wasn't replying to the original comment! But thank you for the insight, I didn't know a lot of the things you shared and it was interesting to read

    • @TutorialNerdzzz
      @TutorialNerdzzz 19 дней назад +1

      in germany its called "Duel der Magier" "Duel of the magicians"

  • @errantcoyote05
    @errantcoyote05 Месяц назад +40

    Liked the movie, but why does everything have to be a franchise?. I do hate when they leave a story unfinished or when they rush things, but half assed sequels or unnecessary prequels should not exist.

    • @joestrike8537
      @joestrike8537 9 дней назад

      ...or drop a million clues what the follow-up film will be about

  • @joshuacoldwater
    @joshuacoldwater Месяц назад +4

    Film budgets include marketing. Marketing is something that the PRODUCTION team has to account for in their budget, on every film. So if you hear a film has a 200 million dollar budget, that is supposed to cover every dime from the room for the auditions to the placement of the dvds on the shelves.

  • @bumfightfan
    @bumfightfan Месяц назад +16

    Who remembers the tesla coil scene?

  • @pariuhjaek
    @pariuhjaek Месяц назад +27

    As a young teen this movie was fye loved to rewatch when it was on Disney

  • @some_dude933
    @some_dude933 21 день назад +3

    I actually liked this film a lot when i was younger. I loved the one wizard who used his dragon tattoo to control a larger actual dragon. Thought that was badass af

  • @thefancysquid671
    @thefancysquid671 Месяц назад +54

    My biggest thing is the super heavy connections to Arthurian legend and Merlin. The story is more interesting when it's just wizards in modern day

  • @PenitusVox
    @PenitusVox Месяц назад +5

    I've noticed that when the theory that moviegoers were just burnt out on a certain genre is floated as the cause for something's failure, there's pretty much never an example that's brought up that matches the quality of the films that kicked the genre into gear in the first place. If people were just tired of the genre but the movie was good anyway, you'd expect them to end up as cult classics. Instead, people still enjoy Harry Potter, while we've pretty much forgotten Percy Jackson, Sorcerer's Apprentice, etc.

  • @rafiethimad
    @rafiethimad Месяц назад +3

    I remember when this movie was coming out, seeing the ads, feeling very hyped. I mean The Nicolas Cage is doing magic? sign me up. I was at Kolkata when it came out and was reading its review on the newspaper. It got 2 and a half stars while another movie with weird shaped Buildings on the poster named Inception got 4 stars. Rather than disappointed, i was in disbelief. Then i bought its dvd, along with inception, cause why not and watched it. It was good, enjoyable but the 'wow' factor was missing. Afterwards, i watched inception, with the thought of how good could it be to get 4 stars and boy oh boy, a Christopher Nolan fan was born that day. Its still a precious memory as i'm thankful to it for introducing me to Inception.

  • @Razor773_YT
    @Razor773_YT Месяц назад +2

    I remember that this movie was a core memory for me. As someone who really wasn’t into Harry Potter as much as other kids my age, I clicked with this movie. The Tesla coil scene was always the most memorable, and as often happens in movies, the song used caused me to fall into that music genre for the rest of my high school experience.

  • @KTSpeedruns
    @KTSpeedruns Месяц назад +29

    So, Nick Cage had a half decent idea that Disney started pouring millions of dollars into before it was polished. They casted the wrong people, sucked at grabbing their target demographic, and released alongside way too many other movies. Sounds like pouring millions into something that very few people will have the extra money to see after seeing everything else is a terrible idea.

  • @teogonzalez7957
    @teogonzalez7957 Месяц назад +10

    This was one of my favorite childhood movies. It got reran on Disney XD all the time.

  • @mikasmith390
    @mikasmith390 26 дней назад +3

    Fun fact: the original " sorcerers apprentice" is a german poem by Goethe

  • @Looneyboy
    @Looneyboy Месяц назад

    Excited for this channels growth and honestly shout out to the skits full of heart on here

  • @JuzefaWingedCat
    @JuzefaWingedCat Месяц назад +5

    I remember watching it an thinking "Wow, with an concept this awesome, this should had been better". I thought the movie was OK, but was missing something, something a lot.

    • @travisperkins9920
      @travisperkins9920 20 дней назад

      If you like the concept of magic users in modern day, check out the dresden files book series by Jim Butcher. Nic Cage is a huge fan of the series and this movie was inspired by it tremendously

  • @That_Guy_From
    @That_Guy_From Месяц назад +5

    This is one of my favorite series on youtube, keep it up dude!

  • @jasonryan6395
    @jasonryan6395 Месяц назад +2

    this movie had the hardest drop of One Republic - Secret song in the movie!

  • @jonnyv2408
    @jonnyv2408 Месяц назад +1

    One of my favorite movies growing up. My introduction to both Jay and Nic, and let’s not forget that Awesome One Republic song

  • @ptcarbonproductions2013
    @ptcarbonproductions2013 Месяц назад +5

    This movie was so great- wait, there's Tomorrowland video? Excuse me, I need to express my undying love for that movie.

  • @Skaiser_Wilhelm7938
    @Skaiser_Wilhelm7938 Месяц назад +10

    Another attempt by Disney to launch a Harry Potter/ Lord of the Rings film series was the Chronicles of Narnia. It started out well with the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe but took a noticeable dip with Prince Caspian. Should make a video about those films.
    Also, a production hell video of the Last Airbender would be a breath of fresh air if you ask me.

  • @lucasbarran779
    @lucasbarran779 Месяц назад +1

    I loved this movie as a kid, i had completely forgotten about it. Thanks for bringing back memories

  • @fusetunes
    @fusetunes Месяц назад +1

    excited to see this one! this was kind of a guilty pleasure movie for my brother and i. we wanted to make our own at-home remake of it at one point and remembered the trailer so well that when i started college i was excited to post the clip about being a "normal college kid", lol. looking back the enjoyment is even more ironic now, but at least they were trying to do something different.

  • @amf0078
    @amf0078 Месяц назад +5

    Idc I loved this movie as a kid and when rewatching it as an adult it held up pretty well.

  • @blackedoutreviews
    @blackedoutreviews Месяц назад +4

    I’m loving your Disney’s “Next big thing.” The TomorrowLand video was sad to watch because I actually thought it was cool as was a was young. But I have no recollection of this film. Probably because of both Toy Story 3 and Despicable Me at the time. I’ll definitely check it out now thanks to your video. Check up the great work.

  • @Ghostykitten
    @Ghostykitten Месяц назад +2

    I loved this movie as a teen! I remember watching this dozens of times with the DVD at home.

  • @kadinthomas2691
    @kadinthomas2691 Месяц назад +1

    The sorcerers apprentice has always had a special place for me because my dad and I always loved it and it was my first movie I ever owned when I got it for Christmas. Love this movie

  • @rickyy35
    @rickyy35 Месяц назад +6

    I LO-O-O-VED THIS MOVIE AND WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE MORE!!!!!

  • @kiritomato1908
    @kiritomato1908 Месяц назад +8

    Disney did'nt invite the sorcerers aprentice. Its based on a realy famous german poem called der Zauberlehrling (the sorcerers aprentice) from Goethe.

  • @343themarine
    @343themarine Месяц назад +2

    honestly this was the best of the "Disney's Failed Next Big Thing", honestly I think it`s a pretty fun movie to watch, not perfect but very good.
    This one deserved a sequel.
    Sands of time was also ok, rule of thumb: if "Disney's Failed Next Big Thing" has Alfred Molina on it it will be at least not boring.

  • @JG124_
    @JG124_ 2 дня назад +1

    Bro there’s one important aspect of this movie you forgot to mention: the SOUNDTRACK omfg, I used to listen to Secrets on repeat cause of this movie

  • @kateorgera5907
    @kateorgera5907 Месяц назад +3

    Also, have you ever seen the draft script for thus film floating around the internet? balthazar had a very different backstory and they included more elements from Fantasia in the climax (plus they made Abigail Williams a real threat instead of just a glorified cameo, something I felt was a wasted opportunity for all The Crucible lovers out there).

  • @OvertheHedge06
    @OvertheHedge06 Месяц назад +32

    Look it's been YEARS since I've seen the darn thing but I will say it is a bizarre move to make a big budget blockbuster partially based off a segment of an animated movie from the 1940s

    • @alexman378
      @alexman378 Месяц назад +4

      Wait until you hear that they’re making a big budget movie based off of a couple of paragraphs from a book written in the 1950s. 😂

    • @JasonHauser125
      @JasonHauser125 Месяц назад +6

      It's no more bizarre than basing a film on a Disney World ride. THAT one just happened to strike gold and they wanted to recreate the magic.

    • @fantasyfan3403
      @fantasyfan3403 Месяц назад

      It gets really weird when you know that this segmented of an animated film is based on a German Ballad from the 18th century

    • @a_wild_Kirillian
      @a_wild_Kirillian Месяц назад

      That's a silly take, though. Because what matters is the idea. And it's not like making a movie about a clumsy apprentice of a sorcerer is a bad idea. Ideas come exactly in such ways.

  • @iam14andthisisdeep53
    @iam14andthisisdeep53 Месяц назад +2

    Honestly im so happy about this era in movies, most of my favorite childhood/tween movies come from this exact time and (for me at least) they are completely rewatchable again and again. Im not talking from a sense of nostalgia when i say, that movies now dont have the same vibe and story telling as movies like these. Theres very few that hit that "fantasy exploration" guilty pleasure of mine.

  • @OrcaYT
    @OrcaYT Месяц назад

    I have been looking for the name of the sorcerers apprentice for years! Thank you so much!

  • @raghudurina2354
    @raghudurina2354 Месяц назад +3

    The movie is actually fairly decent. Honestly the only real problem is the music, it made the movie hard to watch.

  • @Makoto03
    @Makoto03 Месяц назад +7

    I didn't know what to make of this film when i saw the initial trailers. I thought the Jay Baruchel character was supposed to be Mickey in human form or something. lol
    I thought it was more connected to the Fantasia segment than it ended up being. When i learned it was just loosely inspired by it, i lost interest in ever seeing it.

    • @carlosalbertolealrodriguez5529
      @carlosalbertolealrodriguez5529 Месяц назад +5

      That´s right. The Sorcerer´s Apprentice is Mickey Mouse ! Making a live-action was a mistake.

    • @a.r.e.j.1693
      @a.r.e.j.1693 19 дней назад

      @@carlosalbertolealrodriguez5529 The Sorcerer's Apprentice is a poem, and this is just a different adaptation.

  • @JawnNawva
    @JawnNawva Месяц назад

    Really great analysis! Your takes make a lot of sense

  • @yoongbloom
    @yoongbloom Месяц назад +1

    I loved almost all of the movies listed at the beginning (except for Lone Ranger). John Carter, Tomorrowland, Sorcerer’s Apprentice, Prince of Persia…I rewatch these movies regularly. In my experience, a lot of “flops” end up being great movies. Edge of Tomorrow and The Man from Uncle, for example. Incredible movies that did horribly at the box office and they deserved a lot better recognition.

  • @sawyernewhouse8654
    @sawyernewhouse8654 Месяц назад +10

    Loved this movie

  • @KDohSteel
    @KDohSteel Месяц назад +22

    My experience with this movie was my parents took me to see it
    I actually fell asleep during the movie. The worst part was later on I asked my dad what happened in the last half and he told me to guess... the real kicker? I guessed correctly because of how generic the story was lol

  • @maceyband
    @maceyband Месяц назад

    I love these videos, keep it up king

  • @MinerManDouglas
    @MinerManDouglas Месяц назад +1

    I love this series you are doing. Watched the Tomorrowland one a couple days ago. I loved Tomorrowland as a movie, but I have actually never heard of the sorcerers apprentice before 😅.

  • @callmediffuse
    @callmediffuse Месяц назад +2

    Next do the vampires apprentice

  • @joshuvuh8118
    @joshuvuh8118 Месяц назад +4

    Another Disney flop that was good was Tron Legacy

    • @ajvonline
      @ajvonline Месяц назад +2

      Agreed! I thought John Carter was really good, too.

  • @HunterHopefool
    @HunterHopefool Месяц назад

    I've always LOVED this movie. First video I've seen of yours. You've got a new subscription sir.

  • @alfonsvonchermack6647
    @alfonsvonchermack6647 Месяц назад +2

    This is my go to comfort movie. Every time I catch it on TV I sit down and watch.

  • @adamantics
    @adamantics Месяц назад

    I love that you're talking about the lesser known Disney films that bombed. Patiently waiting for your take on why John Carter failed. 12 years later and I'm still disappointed that we never got a conclusion. I'll be complaining about it on my channel in the future for sure.

  • @s1me007
    @s1me007 Месяц назад +1

    This channel is going to blow up

  • @tobygonzalez4194
    @tobygonzalez4194 Месяц назад

    This was one of my favorite disney films!! I loved the "secrets" scene with the tesla coils.

  • @whoevencaresbra-5990
    @whoevencaresbra-5990 Месяц назад +1

    This was my favorite movie as a child I watched it over and over and over !

  • @williammorales3362
    @williammorales3362 Месяц назад

    I actually was really looking forward to seeing more of it 😢

  • @ruinvixi
    @ruinvixi Месяц назад

    Loved this as a kid. I still remember that scene with the tesla coils and one republics secrets

  • @patrickvandyke7618
    @patrickvandyke7618 Месяц назад

    Love this series, great work! Hilariously, I remember seeing each of these in theaters (except Tomorrowland, actually still haven’t seen it!).

  • @jacobthueson32
    @jacobthueson32 Месяц назад

    RUclips is reading my thoughts. I haven't looked up anything remotely similar to this recently, yet was thinking about this movie just 10 minutes ago. Lo and behold I now get it recommend to me. I'm glad, definitely watching - but still lmao

  • @theflyingnone5616
    @theflyingnone5616 Месяц назад

    I adored this movie as a kid and honestly the concept still holds up for me.

  • @a.r.e.j.1693
    @a.r.e.j.1693 23 дня назад +2

    "Kids have to see themselves"
    Ah yes that's why kids love... (checks notes) Iron Man and Batman.

  • @cylerthetreator2116
    @cylerthetreator2116 Месяц назад

    Bro the magic system in Sorcerer’s apprentice was awesome ngl. This is one of those examples I would use for my world building.

  • @AliceWanders
    @AliceWanders Месяц назад +1

    I was a kid when this came out, I specifically went to go and see it for Jay baruchel.he was the entire reason i wanted to see the movie. I LOVED it. I loved him in it. I loved nick cage in it. It was a fantastic film.

  • @brix_videos
    @brix_videos Месяц назад

    I watched this as a kid. I almost forgot it existed till i saw this video.
    But now i'm starting to remember how i enjoyed it when i watched it back then

  • @atsukana1704
    @atsukana1704 20 дней назад

    Cage’s performance as balthazar actually makes sense now knowing it was his idea
    One of the many gems that was hidden by more prominent movies

  • @Steckdose_
    @Steckdose_ Месяц назад

    I remember liking the Movie alot when I was younger, but I also barely remember anything about it nowadays basically forgot it´s existence until seeing this video.

  • @onEmEmbErstudios
    @onEmEmbErstudios Месяц назад +1

    The Sorcerer's Apprentice is one of my guilty pleasure, along with the first Bay's Transformers and The Lone Ranger