ENGLAND ARE OUT! - ENGLAND 1 - 2 FRANCE - WORLD CUP 2022
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The main thing for me is after the Italy defeat, I felt we could’ve done more, there was more to give. Today they gave everything, and on almost all other days it would’ve been enough! Proud of the lads!
Wait, how come Harry Kane isn't getting racially abused like the black players did in Euro?
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 you can’t really racially abuse a white person. also, you say that as if everyone was doing that. nobody who is a true englishman is proud of these people who act like what you’ve described, it’s privilege that he’s white hence why those people are not saying it. Abuse in any circumstance is unacceptable in normal peoples’ eyes
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 do you want him to? You sicko.
@@oggTemp I mean you can
@@ms_0317 how? what are you gonna say to a white person that’s going to make them feel racially attacked? Cracker? means nothing to me or anyone i know that’s white. it just doesn’t work
The fact France reached the semi with half its team out is rather impressive
and they havent yet clicked in this world cup. but they better have.
Scary
Unfortunately Greizman was still there. Controlled everything. A joy to watch
Crazy depth
@@stewartcrawford3372 do you work for itv?
I can’t believe he took off Saka with 10 minutes to go
in all fairness I'm not sure Saka could have given more, and a burst of energy was a good idea, but France shut down those wings quickly.
Wait, how come Harry Kane isn't getting racially abused like the black players did in Euro?
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 because he's white?
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 he’s just getting non-racially abused. For missing that pen.
I'm French but I have to admit that England were a bit better than us today. I thought the referee missed a lot of calls on French fouls. Could've changed the whole game. But you have to take your chances. Fairplay England and you guys are going to be serious, SERIOUS contenders in the 2 next world cups 🙏
You're 1:0 schouldnt have counted . There was a foul against saka before .
You've got lucky today but somehow you still deserve it more than all the other remaining teams
England 2022 = Belgium 2018. They will support Marocco I guess. 😉
@@thegoldenboy3799 if you think that was a foul on saka you're a lost cause, and boohoo you guys couldnt score a goal outside of a penalty, and barely had any clear cut chances. Stop being a sore loser.
@@siavashk608 you're the loser man
England had the better chances Pickford is just a weak keeper.
Definetly was a foul on saka everyone saw it . Watch the replays
@@thegoldenboy3799 england had half chances, they did not create enough at all, hence why their only real chances of scoring were from the penalty spot😭. And blaming pickford for either goal proves you know nothing about football and arguing with someone like you is pointless.
Rashford had to come on earlier, foden wasnt testing that fullback enough
As a french, i want to congratulate England because they played very well. If think that France has more experience and maybe was a little more lucky, even if we misses important players. Im sure that the Time for England will come.
also had the ref in your pocket..
@@ZainAli-cm4su bitter and classless typical England fan
Typical Anglophobe. There is no ‘typical’ England fan. We come in all different colours, shapes and sizes. There is no ‘typical’ Spanish, Japanese or Australian fan and we are just the same. Please don’t tar us all with the same brush.
Anyway (belated) congratulations France, it was such a shame you fell at the final hurdle. I was willing you to win. We will have to see what Germany 2024 holds!
England were phenomenal today imo but it goes to show when you don’t score when you’re firing, you concede.
Don’t celebrate mediocrity fella, England can’t always lose in these crucial games. The mentality is all wrong and the manager is woeful.
All good actions from England tonight exept for that last penalty. We can thank Hugo Lioris for that one cause he was godlike. France was mediocre at some point mid game. This one for us but still sending love from France to England
Wait, how come Harry Kane isn't getting racially abused like the black players did in Euro?
Oh he is getting abused, just not from the english. Yet anyways
@@TheHugolob the one time he decides to be good
As a neutral fan this was one of the best matches so far. Congrats to France and well done England!
I love Spencer man. Such a great video and way to put it. I’m American and I was rooting for you guys. Probably one of the few! I’m a huge Man United fan, so sad to see my guys lose. Hopefully Kane doesn’t get abused like the guys in the Euro
Im from Brazil and England absolutely deserved the win today! Impressive outing. But thats football for you, brazil had it in the bag and one bad play took us out. And the french were lethal.
Hope England comes back stronger!
I think it's unfair to even call Croatia an underdog anymore. An underdog story happens rarely, like Morroco, Croatia consistently proves it's amazing at football. By far the smallest country left but by far the biggest hearts.
Wait, how come Harry Kane isn't getting racially abused like the black players did in Euro?
But they are embarrassing and suckkkkkkkkk
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 you’re replying with this to every post what’s wrong with you
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 10 iq
Croatia are not a Morocco, no. I would put them in a similar position to us (Denmark) going into the tournament. A dark horse who could cause problems for bigger teams if not careful, but not an elite team. They're not in the first 5 most would predict to win the tournament before it began.
Croatia have only won one game this tournament, so saying they're amazing at football based on this tournament is a stretch. It's a good team that's hard to score on, disciplined with some great players in there.
France were missing Kante, Benzema, pogba, kimbempe and Hernandez yet we still lost. Moment we come against teams that can win or its a 50/50 we lose.
We were missing a few players
We were a better team in the second half which makes it hurt more
Their ability to still compete after the injuries they've sustained is incredible in fairness. If we'd lost first team starters of the same quality we'd be in real trouble. Their depth is amazing.
@@andrewjoyce9038 james and chilwell? Neither of em would start today
They loosed Nkunku and Maignan too, Lucas Hernandez (brother of Theo) was the big lost.. Kante was not as good as before
As a Dutchie i can mirror your exact feeling after a similar loss yesterday.
y’all were not better lmao. Y’all suck, literally one of the most boring teams i’ve ever watched
How was it similar ? The dutch did absolutely nothing in 80 minutes and only were able to play and attack ( just with long balls) after Argentina made some poor subtitutions.
Argentina were much better and definitely deserved to win it
I don't if anybody said this already but this is the best game England has played in my lifetime. Creative, dynamic and dedicated. I always saw Southgate as a football bureaucrat but this game made me bit my tongue. Great game. Lots to build on.
You can't call it unlucky when there's only one goal from a pen. People don't seem to understand that controlling the ball, having the possession ratio, doesn't mean you play the best. France controlled this game like they always control high intensity games: with counter attacks. That's always when they are the most dangerous, and proved it once more. Great coaching by Deschamps again.
England had more chances and got robbed
@@thegoldenboy3799 delusion, mental ilness
@@thegoldenboy3799 When you make an affirmation, you need arguments to make it valid.
You don't seem to have understand mines.
Having chances but missing them doenst make it better than less chances that end in goals.
Yes there were a few fouls for England that should have been given a freekick. But only one was in a dangerous position.
Again, France play their game when put at difficulty : not allowing the opponent to score, getting the ball back, then fast counter attacks. They proved once more it's efficient considering their configuration.
@@killmelemmy2170 watch the game again mate .
There was also a foul against kane from upamecano in the box
Wait, how come Harry Kane isn't getting racially abused like the black players did in Euro?
Absolutely spot on, Spence. Couldn’t agree more. We go again in 2024!
french fan. agree with your take. I can understand english fans' frustration, especially with the ref not giving many fouls on Saka. I do think the pre-match mind games were a bit too much and in the end the victory was earned by whoever was stronger mentally, rather than footballing quality really. This young English team will be back!
Ultimately Englands response to this game should be positive as we had our chances which was unlucky and I still believe it will come home, Bellingham is 19 and I’m proud to say he is our best player. This generation definitely has another finals performance atleast until the NA WC 26.
I was rooting for France, but anyone not proud of England's performance is delusional and/or just pessimistic. Like many have said, England played better, and ultimately, the ball just didn't roll in their favor. Nothing to be ashamed of.
Loving the frequent uploads !
100% agree with your analysis and your sensibility is much appreciated
I do not think you as Englishmen should be angry, you've had a great tournament in my opinion. From a Dane I would say you've been the most entertaining team to watch this World Cup along side the Portugal team. You were unlucky not to go through today, as you were the better team and I believe you would have gone through if that penalty was scored. If I was English, I would be excited because if you look at that team and the youth you have, then I think you will win either an Europa Cup or a World Cup with that generation.
Discovered your commentary by chance. Being a frenchman, following also england for the last 25 years, i think you are right on point. Played better, lost, unfortunate, pehaps a little bit unlucky with refereeing. But what a powerful performance from england. Should have won probably but did not. People in france saying you did not play to your strength, the bench. Perhaps earlier decision could have edged it. Next time. Nothing to be ashamed about.
Spencer , you should be proud of England ! They were dominating the world champions you guys were amazing ! England played their heart out .. I wish my country played like England.
After seeing loads of people talk after the game what you say here is spot on 👏🏻
Once again, couldn’t agree more Spence. Always on point
Devastated 😞
It’s alright mate Hashtag will get promoted
Must of imagined Netherlands winning the euros in 88 maybe before your time :)
@@jackhewitt600 I meant World Cup, apologies
Fair enough Netherlands have under achieved in the world cup as long as i can remember
As a French fan, this has all my respect. I'm not sure about Southgate but this is the most levelheaded response I've seen.
Italian here that really looked forward for this English side after Euros, really thought this was the right time to shine. England played well, France is a great team, depth off the charts, half of the starting XI missing and still plenty of quality and talent plus the experience of guys like Griezmann that in the new role connecting midfield and attack really makes a difference.
The game was fairly even, I'm sure that if the chances that England had were for the French those were all goals. The one on one Kane/Llorris, some contended balls in set pieces. Just a lack of luck.
It hurts, because everyone knows that if England goes through France the job is already done, a win against the title holder gives the boost in confidence that really makes a difference.
England played 4 teams they were expected to destroy and then played France. They went out at the earliest possible moment they could have.
Absolutely spot on Spencer!
Always a balanced opinion Spence! I've always loved how you're very reasonable, not many like you.
Spot on spenc mate. it’s gutting we didn’t deserve to be knocked out just one of those days
I actually thought England played better than France today . The sad thing is they couldn't score. They couldn't realize the potential they were building. France on the other hand scored two brilliant goals. I just hope England Football Fans can appreciete the effort this Team put in. I think they were really good and Pickford is just the best goalkeeper in the England Team I've seen in the last 40 years that I've been watching World Cup. Also I have to say my favorite England team is this team that's been playing for the last 4 years. They've reached Semifinals in Russia and Quarters in 2022 and they've been in the Finals in Euro. Just brilliant!
Everything you said was spot on spencer!
Saka was honestly having Theo Hernandez on toast the whoole game🍞…. Idk Why southgate took him off :/
Not blaming kane but as the captain of England on a penalty you HAVE to hit the target if the keeper saves it fair enough but HIT THE TARGET
One of the most level headed reviews I've ever heard. 👌🏾
Personally, I’ve known enough situations in life where I’ve seen it play out to believe in good and bad luck.
Bad luck breeds bad luck, failure breeds failure.
I think this England team can do it eventually, though. And given what the players think of Southgate, I think it’s inevitable he will continue.
I don't think it was really luck (other then the penalty in the first half, imo a penalty,) I think France, having won the world cup were just mentally there. England are better quality wise tho, tricky loss but missed potential this world cup
Ref missing Upamecano foul on saka before 1st goal is bad luck
As an American, spot on Spence, I always respect you as the voice of reason, the result hurts, but like you said, the team can hold their heads high and look positively towards 2026. France have something about them at this point in time, it just feels like they will find a way to win
It was a fantastic showing from England l, obviously it's sore to miss the pen but like you said, I think we win more games than France if we play 10 times, Maguire's header, Kane's penalty miss, Kane's long shot save, kane not getting the first penalty shout, another day we win that game, well done England
Civil and reasonable commentary. Thanks, mister Spencer.
Gutting night but gave as good as we got (probably better) against one of the worlds best in a knockout game which is very rare for England. Bright future with players like Bellingham, Foden, Saka, Rice etc likely to be in their prime next time round. Another tragic chapter is added in the story of England at world cups 😭
Wait, how come Harry Kane isn't getting racially abused like the black players did in Euro?
Southgate once again showing his weaknesses with his favourites. Saka was the best player on the pitch yet he’s taken off for Sterling. Game changers like Rashford and Grealish given barely 5-10 minutes at the end of the game.
Refreshing to see optimistic comments from some 🏴 fans.
Im English lived in USA for 18 years got friends from all over the world. No team puts up with more criticism, whining and bitching than ours - the 🏴press and how we are raised is the issue. Lets be positive and focus on what is going well this IS progress!!!
Played well and probably hit the target that was set pre-tournament thinks probably best Southgate moved on leaving the team better than when arrived and a solid foundation for the next guy to come in
I’m hopeful of where our team can be in 4 years time. Saka was top last night, Bellingham has been great, so has Foden. What are they like in four years?
harry kane will now earn the title of england’s best ever goalscorer in a random friendly against one of europes minnows rather than in a world cup QF against one of the best nations in the world which is still a crazy achievement but if anything that just sums up his career of 0 big game moments up perfectly
Hard to take this seriously because lil spen behind big spen was smiling at me ❤
and no, I am not a French fan but I appreciated greatness, which is what this French team like the last one in the world cup is, pure and utter greatness, super talent, great coaching, play as a team, led by the best player ever who hasn't even reached his prime yet already led France to a world cup and scored more goals in the World cup than Pele did at the same age.
I agree with you. This game didn't deserve a loser after ninety minutes.
An english mindset. France scored more goals so deserved to win.
Kane has a job to do, put that penalty on target, if it’s saved so be it. The fact he put it over when it mattered makes it so much worse. Absolutely bottled it when it was in our hands. I feel Southgate’s tactical decisions came to the fore, strange decisions tonight and in the USA game, masked by a very talented side for the most part but I don’t think he’s the man to take us further
He's done it for us the past when it mattered most. Even the best players don't do it sometimes.
Which tactical decisions were the problem? We created chance and looked good most the game. You could maybe argue about a couple of the subs but, as Spencer said, Southgate knows the players better than we do.
I mean, he does play for Spurs after all…
@@CRW5252 i could only recolect a couple of really good chances, france created more, and scored two of them ,and england ,weakness on penalties ,only one team played in the first half that was france, as usual england tryed to sit back and contain, in my opinion, like to hear ,other peoples opinions. thats, all opinions, and no lectures, claiming there right and your wrong .
@@CRW5252 he took saka off for mount, left Trent on the bench, left an ineffective foden on the pitch, we needed rashford on at 1-1. Lots of passiveness it feels, we never beat a team ranked higher than us and you look at Morocco and Croatia and what they are doing with a far worse squad. I feel a talented bunch has carried Southgate further than he is actually capable of taking us .
@@Ben_204 Saka coming off was an odd decision, I agree with that. Perhaps he was tired.
Mbappe would have roasted Trent. Walker a better all round player.
We are unlikely to play anyone above us in the rankings because there are only 4 teams that are. We got further/as far as 8 of the top 10 (us not included)
You can't compare us to teams like Morocco and Croatia and ignore teams like: Belgium, Italy, Spain, Germany. The latter all have very talented teams but haven't got a manager that is getting much out of them at all.
Finally, we have had more talented squads in the past that have not performed at all. We played some of the best football in the tournament and went out to the world champions. There is no shame in that.
Southgate is our best performing manager for 50 years, partly because of a talented squad but also because he is a great manager (as we keep hearing from the players).
It’s coming home in 18 months 🏴
It's nice to see the responses to this video. It's been nothing but a toxic environment on certain IG accounts
Hello from Brazil, you are not irritated with England, but I am irritated with Brazil, we have excellent players but a coach who made many mistakes: First was to play 4-2-4, Second was to call up players out of gratitude and not out of technical issues, Third was not being able to change the team when necessary, removing players who were not performing like Raphinha or Neymar.
I think England right now is in the time period of the German team of 2010, young and still improving, getting better at playing together, and will properly gel in another year or two
I think when France took the lead they went into game management mode and tried to sit back and counter with pace, great tactical decisions by Deschamps even though England were better than he expected. But a great game by England outdone by a better tactician in Deschamps.
Brilliant rational take, hopefully we hear the mainstream media make a similar analysis in the next few days.
totally agreed Spence, 2018 I was angry because it felt like we didn't play well, 2020 was kinda the same but also the fans let us down... but 2022 we stood toe-to-toe with the world champions and played WELL. I can't be angry with anyone, and in a way it's more disappointing because we were so close. It's good to be disappointed in this way because I'm really feeling the evolution from tournament to tournament of England and Gareth. I think Gareth absolutely gets the EUROs and people saying he should go are utterly deluded and short-sighted. let the team and manager keep growing together. I'm excited for what's coming.
also Southgate literally did what the angry fans asked and played 4 at the back, they can't be angry with him but they still are. Won't ever please them.
England will never win tournament as long southgate is manager
Southgate has to go. His in game management has cost us for the 3rd tournament on the trot. When we need to push on and try to win, he sits still. Too scared to make positive changes.
Out like always not a surprise!!
Lloris stepped up like he did against belgium
Saka was the best player on the field during this game. He shouldn't have been taken out.
In my opinion deschamps has like plans A-Z to win football games, Southgate has plans A-C
French here, i think you were better today, sincerely feel bad for you guys. You have a really good team, next one will be the one !
Wait, how come Harry Kane isn't getting racially abused like the black players did in Euro?
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 cos you can’t racially abuse a race that isn’t a minority. But he will get a lot of abuse
I like the fact you don't go full hate on Kane. As a french, I must say we got lucky there and I can understand how frustrating it is for you. Looks like the Three Lions team has a brilliant future ahead.
That being said about the "who win this match will win the world cup", on the paper it looks right, but on the paper Kane would have scored the penalty.
Morocco has a momentum, a fierce spirit and the whole arabic world behind them. And IF we made it through the semi finals, Croatia and Argentina are tough, experienced teams and they will have a huge thirst for revenge after 2018, where we beat both of them.
If the UK and Ireland host the Euros in 2028 then we’d be one of the favourites with Bellingham, Rashford, Saka in their mid to late 20’s and more experienced. 🏴
My biggest disagreement with you here is the opinion that this match was the decider for who was going to go on to win it all. It's a bit eurocentric and disregards the amazing world cup Morrocco and Croatia have done, and the incredible team spirit and heart that Argentina has shown. All these teams are really hard to beat and no easy opponent
Thank you for saying this! How deluded have you to be to think England is a better team than Croatia in modern history? They have more appearances in semi final and final than England 😂
So England could beat a weak Iran, Wales and Senegal. Drew USA and beaten by the first decent team they faced - France. If Rashi starts probably they'd have won.
France are more than 'decent'
England aren't up there with France, Brazil etc, as much as the fans like to cope and think they are.
NEUTRAL FAN: Having watched the game for the same period as you, this game really stood out compared to old England performances. The boys gave it all and may be the luck was not there today.
You are one of the few level headed England fans I have ever seen in my life for sure, specially across the Social Media ❤
we're not all as crazy as the loud fickle England fans!
Ultimately, we didn't create quite enough from open play. France clinical. 100% I think that there is a mental block for England. As a nation we put tons of pressure on the players and manager. If we won something, I think we'd win more and it would open the floodgates a bit.
giroud is a srs baller, blows my mind how underated he is
This was the strongest showing of the Engeland team. In the Euros England was just boring. This tournament they deserved more
the game was 50/50 today, england had more chances because of the early goal to france so they started defending more.
Wait, how come Harry Kane isn't getting racially abused like the black players did in Euro?
I’ve allways been anti Southgate since the very start . But this tournament has changed my mind . This team actually showed me they could win a major trophy playing the way they played .
Luck can only be used as an excuse so many times. In the end we just don't have a winner mentally. Until we get that we will never win
It was luck though. how many times in this tournament do you see 2 goals like that from absolutely nowhere come from…
@@austindoesfifa5269 talent ? haven't watched Mbappe's previous double ? tsss
I agree but in this case it's the truth. First goal should've been a foul on saka. We should've had a pen to go 1-0 up. Ref was shocking all game. As England fans we probably make the lucky excuse too often but today I think it was the case
You can’t ask for much better of a performance vs France. Ref was a joke but I think all the boys played well today. Game of complete fine margins. Gutted.
Wait, how come Harry Kane isn't getting racially abused like the black players did in Euro?
Not angry. Top sport is fine margins. Ref was quite bad though. We were competitive and anyone over 30 will remember these games England were hopeless with no control of the game. This time we controlled the game and this France is a very good side.
"Could we have done any more" Scoring would b a start 🤔 🙄 🤣🤣🤣
As a neutral I definitely thought England were the better team on the day and a bit unlucky with that foul from Upamecano on Kane not being given as a penalty. If you’re English, I don’t think you can be disappointed with the performance.
I've been cheering for England football team since 1986 and this is my favorite team. I'm not disapointed just a little bit sad. I'm happy that England played good though.
Wasn't a pen though, contact was made outside the box
@@yourmum955 it continued on in the box though which is enough for it to be a penalty.
@@advenco344 it’s where the contact starts. I believe from a replay I saw, Upamecano first kicked Kane at a point where they were outside of the box. Even still, shouldn’t rely on pens for it. Pathetic performance from us
@@advenco344 Nope. It's where contact starts, always has been like that
I don't think you're deluded at all Spen, I agree with you, I just wish that the subs would've been made earlier, just give the players a chance to get stuck in, get used to the game, is all I ask
The last time England beat a big team in a bih tournament that was at least in a decent shape.. was 1996 .. in regular time it was 1966! Before 1996 it barely happened..
Argentina, Denmark, Tunisia x2, Panama, Colombia x2, Sweden, Slovenia, Paraguay, Trinidad, Ecuador, Iran, Wales, Senegal
These are the teams England's beaten at world cups in the last 24 years (WC 98 - WC 22)
Jamaica, Romania, Germany, The Netherlands, Cameroon, Nigeria, Argentina, Iceland, Denmark, Russia, England, Canada, Japanx2, Brasil
These are the teams Croatia has beat in the last 24 years (WC 98 - it's first world cup - WC 22)
Since WC 98 Croatia has been in 3 WC semi-finals. England has been in 3 semi-finals in it's entire history. Bear in mind Croatia only exists as a country since 1991. And England invented the game. I think it's fair to say that if Croatia are underdogs then at the very least so is England. And that's exactly the problem with England. Take a small country like Croatia who has amazing players but no one has ever heard of them outside Croatia. Livakovic the goalie is a far better goalkeeper than Pickford yet no one has ever heard of him apart from the 4 million people living in Croatia. Gvardiol is better than any English defensive player and again no one has ever heard of him. Modric is probaly better than the entire English midfield combined yet you claim Jude Bellingham is the best midfielder in the world? Who does he play for? How many Champions Leagues does he have? I know he's young and he probably will win one but right now Modric has more champions leagues than the entire England National Team. Watch clips of young Modric and of Bellingham now and you'll see Bellingham couldn't hold a candel to Modric yet again no one ever heard of Modric back then. That's without even mentioning the likes of Brozovic and Perisic. It's sort of an NBA syndrom where you think that if you have the strongest league ( which is also up for debate) you have the strongest national side. But in most of those big english teams the stars are not English but foreign - Jesus, Haaland, Salah with Foden being the only exception probably. England has a good side don't get me wrong but it's massively overhyped by the English media. To the point where that hype mixed with WC patriotism and the idea of ending "how ever many years of hurt" makes you deluded. And that delusion is best shown in the way you claim that Croatia are underdogs. Or even Morroco? When did England beat the likes of Spain or Portugal or Belgium in a World cup. A long time ago if ever.
England had a good Euro's but so did Greece back in 2004. And they won it, you didn't. Plus England played almost every game at home. Greece beat the host Portugal in the final. Summa summarum - More realism - less dissapointment.
Southgate is the best man manager since Venables. He doesn’t need to be a tactical maestro, he can employee that. 3 tournaments, worst performance in terms of distance gone is the QF. He should have one more crack at Euro24 for sure
Gutted to go out but frankly we played well, battered france on xg, the ref was very poor, but southgate and all the boys have done all i could have asked, and as much as it hurts, everyone gave it their all and we came up short, we will only come back stronger
Ready for more disappointment in 2026.
Let’s not forget that France are essentially playing with their B team given that they have injuries everywhere Benzema / Kante / Pogba / Nkunku and the list goes on. England on the other hand have their best XI on the pitch so if England can’t beat France’s B team how on earth are they going to win anything. Under Southgate every time they’ve come up against a good team they lost. Let’s not kid ourselves into thinking that Germany is a good side because they are not. They’ve only beaten the likes of Sweden and Denmark and the worst version of Germany probably ever.
I know it sounds like an excuse and maybe it is but I really think the refereeing had a massive part to play to why we lost that match. It was so tight that refereeing calls do make a massive difference and the level of refereeing was so so poor. With a competent referee we go to extra time at least if not we win in normal time. Again maybe I’m being naive. Still want Gareth to stay on but if he goes I’d love to see Eddie Howe take over.
it really sounds like an excuse 😅
i think england need to get experience on playing more good teams like france to gain experience if they want to win a international tournament
That was a good performance from England. I think in 4 years guys like Saka, Rashford, Foden, Bellingham, Rice will be better in their professional peaks. I feel they have to be one of if not the favorite for Euro 2024.
I don't think, however, in 4 years there will be a good base for the future youth of the team
What Southgate has done well is getting the team to beat teams they should be and not suffering another Euro 2016 moment and numerous others before. However, I don't think he's the guy to get the team past the top teams. There was the Germany victory in the last Euro's, but as more time goes on it's evident that that Germany is far from vintage and possibly the worst German teams I've witnessed in 30 years. The game tonight was there for the taking at 1-1 and I think the substitutes were odd and a bit late in the game. Saka was exceptional and if he wasn't injured, I've no idea why he was taken off. Can't really think of chances England had which you could consider a 'great' chance (ignoring the penalties obviously).
neutral: I think France just had their class players step up and deliver. As harsh as it is Kane being the captain and tied all time leading scorer needs to at least put the pen on target.
Nah. PKs are missed. Just a part of the game. If it comes down to that, something else went wrong. In this case, what went wrong for England was unfortunately part (bad) luck in that the finishes weren't there. And that also is simply part of the game.
Chose not the play the best creative fullback ever in favour of defensive stability… then both goals come down walkers side. I prefer not to speak
Mbappe did nothing during the game but at what cost ? Targeting him so much was not the smartest move
We were very lucky today , we had sweats , never easy with England
Agree. Us scots always causing damage…😂
Any questions of Pickford on the first goal?
France we’re just that bit more experienced and clever. Still managed to force the win despite being second-best
I'm Danish, so I would like to think I'm fairly neutral.
On the match:
Fairly close match. It's small random moments that gives the goals. Tchouameni with an unlikely but incredibly long shot goal, the two pens for England (you can't exactly have that in your tactical gameplan) and then a good cross and header from Giroud. Neither team created much in open play, so I think today was a bit of a flip of a coin which it can be in these matches.
I think some time after France scored, the momentum started to change. Whether that was England going more attacking and/or France going more defensive, I'm not sure what happened first, but you could clearly see that after 30 mins or so, that Shaw started to push further forward, which allowed Foden to go more centrally and get more on the ball. Constantly wanting it, and simply roaming and floating around the pitch.
On Englands World Cup and Southgate:
I don't think it's an overachievement nor a disappointment. You beat the teams you had to beat (perhaps beating USA as well, but you won the group with 7 points), and you lose in a close match to France that could've gone both ways. I don't think this changes anything. If you hated Southgate before, I'm not sure he's done enough to change your mind although it was a bit more attacking this tournament. If you liked Southgate before, he's not disappointed so there's no reason for you to hate him. Also to the whole Southgate debate, if you want to fire him, who are you getting? No, you're not getting a Tuchel, a Pep, a Klopp, a Potter or whoever you think of. Almost all managers prefers managing a club to a national team.
As a French supporter, I agree with you, England pretty much owned the game and overall looked like a stronger team.
However I believe England was missing a little something on the attacking side.
If England had Deschamps as coach he would have made the substitution for Rashford & Grealish much earlier ....
Great performance from England, you should be all be proud of your team.
Now England should look forward and be prepared mentally to win Euro 2024.
bang on once again
The only thing people can argue kane lacks to his career is his performace in big knockout games. He drags spurs in the league but then when it comes to England and Tottenham knockout games late on hes been downright unlucky/ let down or just not preformed. He really needs to end his career with some silverware just for the satisfaction of him having it along with all his goals and assists.
He really doesn't. If he doesn't have silverware, he doesn't deserve it
Delighted at the result. Anyone but England, forever