I'm two minutes in and I already want to say thank you for both the cadence of your speech (which is clear and concise) and for not over sensationalizing this pistol. I've got three decades of shooting under my belt and I very much appreciate clear feedback vs someone trying to make a Michael Bay movie out a gun video. Breath of fresh air.
Mr. Watson You beat me to it/I was going to comment something very similar ! VERY impressive accuracy but not super surprising [as an owner of multiple Sig Sauer firearms] from Sig ! I've yet to shoot a Sig handgun that wasn't more accurate than other comparable / similar handguns ! I have been Conceal Carrying an XMacro TacOps [the 1 without the cuts in the slide] for a little over 2 years and I LOVE it ! All that being said I have heard that the FUSE is having some reliability issues .
500 rounds into mine Back plate broke before 50 rounds ( easy fix) Won’t run wild brand ammo Only take around two mags for the optic to get crusty from the LCI Feels amazing in the hand Easy to conceal Light enough to carry all day Love it so far Took it with a M&P 2.0 and a hellcat pro to the range Everyone preferred the fuse even my 23 yr old niece who is new to fire arms
The irony of this is we went from full size being too large but micro or pocket pistols were single stack hence limiting so here comes Sig with a pocket gun that carries 3 to 5 more rounds; yet, here we are 5 to 7 years later with a 365 that is basically a full or Duty sized pistol carrying the same payload as our former full size/duty pistol only a tad bit slimmer. It is basically giving me whiplash lol!
Just got back from the range, I put my Fuse slide on my p365 Legion frame... wow, WOW. This combination will be Sig next version of the P365. i doubt I'll be using the Fuse polymier frame much.compatablity is totally doable.
Teya is a SHOOTER and as for grip sizes, I (33 y.o male glove size medium) typically prefer larger backstraps when optional as well despite smallish hands; feels like my long weird fingers index on triggers better that way; so if you're a shooter, don't let your hand/glove size determine your grip size, try stuff out.
I have to say that was one of the best accuracy results that I seen on this channel. I’m curious which red dot that Graham has used that has the sharpest dot. Both of you did a great job!
I did notice on mine that I needed to break in the magazines quite a bit, but once that happened they’ve run flawlessly since then. I left them fully filled for probably a day and a half each
I enjoyed the video. Nice to see that accuracy! I have several 365's. and they are fun to mix 'n match grips and slides. I'm hoping the fuse slide becomes available to put on one of my Macro frames.
Checked into the 21rd mags with SIG, from three Sig employees and one manager - the mags are on 6 month delay and they only have enough for the guns released. Just a heads up before you buy or try hunting down the mags.
I just purchased mine a week ago. all three (17 and two 21 round) magazines still have the issue of not getting the last round in. I believe the spring will ease up after a few reloads. I've only put one magazine through it so far (blazer 115 gr) and haven't had any chambering issues yet. great video
Great review, I've been looking at these as a replacement carry gun since they were announced. Still rocking the original 365 and I want something bigger and optics capable.
Thank you for sharing your review. I think Sig Sauer has done a nice job with this Sig Sauer 365 Fuse. For the price, with options available is fairly priced. We're definitely going to purchase this pistol within a few months. Thank you both for sharing your video. Have a great weekend 😄🙏
4:32 do you not have an Uplula? That thing's a life changer lol Nice piece, just not a fan of the fluted guide rod. Of all the things to save weight on, the guide rod, really?!
All XMACRO grip modules with three. Also new Sig mags always are hard to get the last round in when they are new. This is simply an XMACRO with a 4.3 barrel.
@@laserbrain7774unfortunately I believe this is still a polymer grip module. For the price I have seen these retailing at I seriously doubt aluminum. The regular version is going to be $699 so that tells me it is polymer. They need to do a line like S&W with the metal grip.
@@BYoun69 It is indeed still polymer. It's just a regular xmacro grip module with sig's laser stippling. The P365 AXG Legion is the model with aluminum grip.
It's hard to wrap my head around all of Sig's iterations the last few years. This is definitely an eye opener. Y'all looked very comfortable shooting this and your accuracy groups backed that up. I totally understand Teya's point on the fiber optic👍Well done review!💯🫡
I’m considering this one. Had the P365X and sold it. Not pleasant to shoot at the range, hands were hurting after 50 rounds. Went back to my compacts and ditched the micros. Curious about this thing.
I have multiple 'sets' of 365 components and can make 365 XLs, X-Macro Comps or X-Macro TacOps. I've got multiple black and FDE grip modules and have multiple 4.3" threaded True Precision barrels. I'm really not about to buy a complete 365 Fuze pistol. I'll probably wait for a 4.3-inch 3rd party slide assembly in a finish that suits me and go with that. Thanks
The Fuse isn't a full-size pistol. It's a slim compact, almost identical in size to the Glock 48 ( which is just a slim Glock 19 ). Yes, it has a 4.3" barrel which is longer than most compacts, but that's because the breech on the 365 platform is farther back in the slide compared to many other pistols. Sig fit a 4.3" barrel in the same space others can only fit a 4" barrel. Some might say the better compromise would be to use a more normal 4" barrel and just shorten up the gun as a whole, but it is what it is. This is the pistol I thought Sig should have made when the original XMacro released. I never liked the idea of a sub-compact barrel on a longer compact grip. The barrel is usually the easiest part of a pistol to conceal and the grip is usually the hardest. The base 365 is specifically a carry pistol only. The XL is a slim sub-compact that's great for concealment, but just big enough to use for other things too. The Fuse is the compliment to the XL, a general purpose pistol that can still be concealed without much effort.
while yes the OG 365 is a compromise, but it became famous because of the mag capacity even the macro holds more rounds than a standard carry/duty size gun like the G19 or PDP or CZ
Just here for the poors saying it's too expensive. I'm a car guy and love Ferraris but can't afford one. I don't go to Ferrari videos on RUclips and say "Geez! Why so much!? Must the be prancing horse on the hood!" because I have dignity and class. Looking forward to buying one of these and running rounds through it.
I've got bad news for folks. $860 is a perfectly reasonable price in this day and age for a high-quality duty-capable handgun. Sure, Tisas or Girsan or Taurus or some other "bargain gunmaker" will build something similar to one of these someday soon...except their accurate descriptors won't be "high-quality" or "duty-capable." They also won't be too far off the Sig's pricepoint.
In your opinion how does the recoil of the Fuse compare to the P365 xmacro and also how does these guns compare in recoil to the Mossberg MC2C? How would you rank these three guns 1-3? Does the P365xl seem to have more recoil than these 3 guns? Thank you
Sig must have fired their "Firearm Naming Team" some time back, because this is about as far from a P365 as a Glock 17 is from a Glock 26. I'm not convinced by their naming strategy. I know it seems to shoot nicely, but the price makes me wince.
@@3tonedThinker Nope, no relation other than being a gun writer. I don't sell a thing nor does my livelyhood depend on any product selling or not selling.
I like the size but the slide design is bad. Really ugly. The big deep front serrations dont match with the rather delicate appearance and the recess on the front just look stupid and is unnecessary. But it seems to be very accurate at least the 3 shot groups were all very tight.
Jeez...$860 without the red dot. $1020 with!! I know of less expensive ways to go that fully get the job done. I suppose you gotta assume the name SIG comes with a price tag.
Then go right ahead. I'm sure Tisas or Girsan or Taurus or all of them already has something on the drawing boards for the trailer park crowd. $860 MSRP is a perfectly reasonable price for a quality duty-capable handgun. Reminds me of one of the LGS owners I know; his says that he has two types of customers...the ones who want every gun to cost $300 or less or the ones who actually keep him in business.
@@GBGunsI believe the Masada Slim and some Glock offerings aren't too far off that mark. I'm not sure if the Slim is still in production, but either way, they aren't quite "on" that mark. Frankly, bad news for the original commenter, $860 is a perfectly reasonable price not just for the feature set, but this 365 is duty-capable...something Taurus, Tisas, Girsan, and their ilk are incapable of.
@JD-tn5lz "not that far off" does not mean it "pulls all that off" How would you feel if instead of being able to buckle yourself securely in a car you are put in there use something thats "not that far off" Some would say shooting the hostage in the head is also "not that far off" but you still arent succeeding. Fact is sure things get close but NOTHING does this. Also with more people carrying, the market realized the only hands on the market arent big ol meat clamps. This will go far and will make competent shooters through ergo alone
@@emanuelemanuel7038first off, I'm not a Sig fanboy but I am a big fan of Sig. At latest count I own eight of them. What I'm saying is that the 365 Fuze is novel, not revolutionary. The original 365's magazine was nearly revolutionary with it's one-and-a-half stack mag. The 365 is a fine firearm, but the IWI and Glock offerings also are. Now, here's the beatdown from an LE firearms instructor...NO FIREARM creates a competent shooter no matter how user-friendly it is. None of them, zero, nada. If you're untrained and suck with one gun, you'll still suck with another until someone trains you and you commit to the art. Some firearms are more enjoyable for novices or untrained owners to shoot, and that does facilitate good instruction and sometimes encourages good habits...but NO GUN, no matter how good it is, creates a good or even competent shooter. Period. That requires commitment first, not nice hardware. Oh, and by the way, the Masada has great ergos too and is all of 0.07" wider girth...that's about 1/20th of an inch.
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I'm two minutes in and I already want to say thank you for both the cadence of your speech (which is clear and concise) and for not over sensationalizing this pistol. I've got three decades of shooting under my belt and I very much appreciate clear feedback vs someone trying to make a Michael Bay movie out a gun video. Breath of fresh air.
I completely agree. This was a pleasant watch.
Thank you both
That accuracy is impressive. The shooters had to do thier part of course.
Mr. Watson You beat me to it/I was going to comment something very similar !
VERY impressive accuracy but not super surprising [as an owner of multiple Sig Sauer firearms] from Sig !
I've yet to shoot a Sig handgun that wasn't more accurate than other comparable / similar handguns !
I have been Conceal Carrying an XMacro TacOps [the 1 without the cuts in the slide] for a little over 2 years and I LOVE it !
All that being said I have heard that the FUSE is having some reliability issues .
Great to see this so quickly, best looking Sig in a long time. Appreciate the review.
You both shot this very well.
500 rounds into mine
Back plate broke before 50 rounds ( easy fix)
Won’t run wild brand ammo
Only take around two mags for the optic to get crusty from the LCI
Feels amazing in the hand
Easy to conceal
Light enough to carry all day
Love it so far
Took it with a M&P 2.0 and a hellcat pro to the range
Everyone preferred the fuse even my 23 yr old niece who is new to fire arms
The irony of this is we went from full size being too large but micro or pocket pistols were single stack hence limiting so here comes Sig with a pocket gun that carries 3 to 5 more rounds; yet, here we are 5 to 7 years later with a 365 that is basically a full or Duty sized pistol carrying the same payload as our former full size/duty pistol only a tad bit slimmer. It is basically giving me whiplash lol!
Firearms fashion statement. Always going back to the classics, and basics.
Just got back from the range, I put my Fuse slide on my p365 Legion frame... wow, WOW. This combination will be Sig next version of the P365. i doubt I'll be using the Fuse polymier frame much.compatablity is totally doable.
Teya is a SHOOTER and as for grip sizes, I (33 y.o male glove size medium) typically prefer larger backstraps when optional as well despite smallish hands; feels like my long weird fingers index on triggers better that way; so if you're a shooter, don't let your hand/glove size determine your grip size, try stuff out.
I have to say that was one of the best accuracy results that I seen on this channel. I’m curious which red dot that Graham has used that has the sharpest dot. Both of you did a great job!
Just proving that preferred length and girth are up to the individual handler.
You can always tell how much Tia likes a gun by how well she shoots it. Great shooting guys, maybe the best I've seen by both.
The takeaway I think to be described in one word - Balanced.
Well summarized
Thanks as always! Hi Tia
My unsolicited comment. I wish there were a DA/SA in that configuration.
I haven’t had a good reason to not carry my Glock 48. This sounds like a really good competitor.
Great review.
It’s a nice pistol but the difference is I carry my G19 and G48 Mos appendix wouldn’t do that with a Sig lol
I did notice on mine that I needed to break in the magazines quite a bit, but once that happened they’ve run flawlessly since then. I left them fully filled for probably a day and a half each
You two were a hoot in this video.😃
I enjoyed the video. Nice to see that accuracy!
I have several 365's. and they are fun to mix 'n match grips and slides. I'm hoping the fuse slide becomes available to put on one of my Macro frames.
Currently the options out there are like the Maskas build we have on GBGUNSDEPOT.COM
@@GBGuns this looks like the way to go for me!
P365 the long wayy
But better looking though, which is a low bar to begin with lol.
The looong way
365 Pfizer edition
Checked into the 21rd mags with SIG, from three Sig employees and one manager - the mags are on 6 month delay and they only have enough for the guns released. Just a heads up before you buy or try hunting down the mags.
I just purchased mine a week ago. all three (17 and two 21 round) magazines still have the issue of not getting the last round in. I believe the spring will ease up after a few reloads. I've only put one magazine through it so far (blazer 115 gr) and haven't had any chambering issues yet. great video
Love the grip
I really enjoyed both of your reviews and thoughts regarding this gun! First time watcher and followed. 😊
Thank you and welcome to the channel! Most of the videos are part of a deeper-dive review, see the pinned comment of videos for that full review.
I really liked the full review on the Maskas... I guess I missed it on RUclips, but saw it on your website.
This is an excellent video. Outstanding shooting as well.
Great review, I've been looking at these as a replacement carry gun since they were announced. Still rocking the original 365 and I want something bigger and optics capable.
Thank you for sharing your review. I think Sig Sauer has done a nice job with this Sig Sauer 365 Fuse.
For the price, with options available is fairly priced.
We're definitely going to purchase this pistol within a few months.
Thank you both for sharing your video. Have a great weekend 😄🙏
Yous two guys are great together! Thank y'all again for another great video! (even though I dislike Sig very much)
Very nice gun I wonder if this will replace the 320 at some point Nice gun
It probably will since there's many problems and concerns with P320 going off on their own.
@@ratagris21this issue has been fixed already.
@@dillonh321I doubt anything is fixed with SIG products. I don't trust it at all. Period.
4:32 do you not have an Uplula? That thing's a life changer lol
Nice piece, just not a fan of the fluted guide rod. Of all the things to save weight on, the guide rod, really?!
All XMACRO grip modules with three. Also new Sig mags always are hard to get the last round in when they are new. This is simply an XMACRO with a 4.3 barrel.
And aluminum instead of polymer?
@@laserbrain7774unfortunately I believe this is still a polymer grip module. For the price I have seen these retailing at I seriously doubt aluminum. The regular version is going to be $699 so that tells me it is polymer. They need to do a line like S&W with the metal grip.
@@BYoun69 It is indeed still polymer. It's just a regular xmacro grip module with sig's laser stippling. The P365 AXG Legion is the model with aluminum grip.
@@therealnugzythe new texture on it feels pretty good. Reminds me of the Armory Craft grip module.
Thank you.
It's hard to wrap my head around all of Sig's iterations the last few years. This is definitely an eye opener. Y'all looked very comfortable shooting this and your accuracy groups backed that up. I totally understand Teya's point on the fiber optic👍Well done review!💯🫡
I still feel like it would shoot extremely well on the Sharps Bro's XMacro grip module
looks cool! Not replacing my trusted 365XL and Holosun tho :)
I’m considering this one. Had the P365X and sold it. Not pleasant to shoot at the range, hands were hurting after 50 rounds. Went back to my compacts and ditched the micros. Curious about this thing.
If you run thumbs up and forward, the deep slide serrations will get you!
@@Latrans9 well, no bueno. Hard pass
Another review on the optic?
Front sight is awesome, love the length and bigger mags, but the Slide serrations are way too aggressive.
I agree four inches or better.
Mine will be here Wednesday yessss
The x macro comp came with 3 back straps. Bought 2 years ago. Really considering this model.
I have multiple 'sets' of 365 components and can make 365 XLs, X-Macro Comps or X-Macro TacOps. I've got multiple black and FDE grip modules and have multiple 4.3" threaded True Precision barrels. I'm really not about to buy a complete 365 Fuze pistol. I'll probably wait for a 4.3-inch 3rd party slide assembly in a finish that suits me and go with that. Thanks
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Welcome to New Hampshire. Please talk about your Sig experience in a video.👍👍
The article is already live
I wonder what one might could do to lighten the recoil spring if they wanted to get a window n ported barrel
When's Sig going to come out with 30 round 365 mags? And when will Magpul come out with the 50 round drums?
The Fuse isn't a full-size pistol. It's a slim compact, almost identical in size to the Glock 48 ( which is just a slim Glock 19 ). Yes, it has a 4.3" barrel which is longer than most compacts, but that's because the breech on the 365 platform is farther back in the slide compared to many other pistols. Sig fit a 4.3" barrel in the same space others can only fit a 4" barrel. Some might say the better compromise would be to use a more normal 4" barrel and just shorten up the gun as a whole, but it is what it is.
This is the pistol I thought Sig should have made when the original XMacro released. I never liked the idea of a sub-compact barrel on a longer compact grip. The barrel is usually the easiest part of a pistol to conceal and the grip is usually the hardest. The base 365 is specifically a carry pistol only. The XL is a slim sub-compact that's great for concealment, but just big enough to use for other things too. The Fuse is the compliment to the XL, a general purpose pistol that can still be concealed without much effort.
4.3" barrel + 17rds = full size
A female perspective is very valuable!
while yes the OG 365 is a compromise, but it became famous because of the mag capacity
even the macro holds more rounds than a standard carry/duty size gun like the G19 or PDP or CZ
Yet….again everyone will compare every pistol made to DADDY G19, perfection can’t be replicated
No, the 90s were 30 years ago. This is slimmer, more powerful, and higher capacity than a G19
Just here for the poors saying it's too expensive. I'm a car guy and love Ferraris but can't afford one. I don't go to Ferrari videos on RUclips and say "Geez! Why so much!? Must the be prancing horse on the hood!" because I have dignity and class.
Looking forward to buying one of these and running rounds through it.
I've got bad news for folks.
$860 is a perfectly reasonable price in this day and age for a high-quality duty-capable handgun.
Sure, Tisas or Girsan or Taurus or some other "bargain gunmaker" will build something similar to one of these someday soon...except their accurate descriptors won't be "high-quality" or "duty-capable." They also won't be too far off the Sig's pricepoint.
Great ergo's but this is the 7th video with that "battery" failure issue. They need to recalc the recoil spring. The 21rd magazines are fine.
In your opinion how does the recoil of the Fuse compare to the P365 xmacro and also how does these guns compare in recoil to the Mossberg MC2C?
How would you rank these three guns 1-3?
Does the P365xl seem to have more recoil than these 3 guns?
Thank you
I'm more excited over the optic than the pistol, to be honest
With any new sig pistol or sig pistol variant I wait a year to buy one so all the bugs get worked out
Nice how much does it cost?
As always, specs and details are in the article.
I have as small a hands as she does and I also prefer a larger blackstrap as she does.
Does it shoot when dropped still
It passes government tests, but I'm sure if you give an influencer a hammer they can make just about anything go off.
Never did. Let the lie go.
Sig must have fired their "Firearm Naming Team" some time back, because this is about as far from a P365 as a Glock 17 is from a Glock 26. I'm not convinced by their naming strategy.
I know it seems to shoot nicely, but the price makes me wince.
It's a P365 FCU
@@GBGuns Ah, of course, I'd forgotten about that wrinkle. Doh!
Recoil spring assembly is Plastic and sights are of less quality, the pistol is sub Par at best.
How many plastic guide rods have you broken?
@@GBGuns give me 2 mins with it
@@GBGuns you obviously work for them or sell the equipment they make
@@3tonedThinker That sounds like a user-error problem.
@@3tonedThinker Nope, no relation other than being a gun writer. I don't sell a thing nor does my livelyhood depend on any product selling or not selling.
I'm a huge Sig fan, but after checking out a Fuse at my LGS I wont be buying this one.
Good lord. The threeesixtyfive. Didn’t make it past the first few seconds.
Everyone places red dots because the stock sights aren’t that good.
The irons are excellent.
@@GBGuns okey boot licker
@@GBGuns they are a down grade compared to every prior model prior to this one, they are junk, you obviously work for them.
@@GBGuns you obviously work for them
You think I work for sights? Do yourself a favor and next time have an adult check your comments for your before you post.
I like the size but the slide design is bad. Really ugly. The big deep front serrations dont match with the rather delicate appearance and the recess on the front just look stupid and is unnecessary. But it seems to be very accurate at least the 3 shot groups were all very tight.
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That polymer guide rod though. Yikes. Another way to cheapen the gun….
Aside from the loss of weight, have you ever had a polymer guide rod break?
@ I want more weight with the guide rod to decrease nuzzle flip … funny how all other P365s have steel guide rods. At least until now
Jeez...$860 without the red dot. $1020 with!! I know of less expensive ways to go that fully get the job done. I suppose you gotta assume the name SIG comes with a price tag.
And there's currently nothing else out there like this.
Then go right ahead. I'm sure Tisas or Girsan or Taurus or all of them already has something on the drawing boards for the trailer park crowd.
$860 MSRP is a perfectly reasonable price for a quality duty-capable handgun.
Reminds me of one of the LGS owners I know; his says that he has two types of customers...the ones who want every gun to cost $300 or less or the ones who actually keep him in business.
multiple malfunctions in less than 100 rounds, no thanks
Just another sig medium size gun nothing special that's goin to cost you a thousand dollars or more I'm not impressed.
4.3" barrel, 17 round capacity, and only 1.1" wide. It's the only thing currently out there pulling all of that off
@@GBGunsI believe the Masada Slim and some Glock offerings aren't too far off that mark.
I'm not sure if the Slim is still in production, but either way, they aren't quite "on" that mark.
Frankly, bad news for the original commenter, $860 is a perfectly reasonable price not just for the feature set, but this 365 is duty-capable...something Taurus, Tisas, Girsan, and their ilk are incapable of.
@JD-tn5lz "not that far off" does not mean it "pulls all that off"
How would you feel if instead of being able to buckle yourself securely in a car you are put in there use something thats "not that far off"
Some would say shooting the hostage in the head is also "not that far off" but you still arent succeeding.
Fact is sure things get close but NOTHING does this.
Also with more people carrying, the market realized the only hands on the market arent big ol meat clamps. This will go far and will make competent shooters through ergo alone
@@emanuelemanuel7038first off, I'm not a Sig fanboy but I am a big fan of Sig. At latest count I own eight of them.
What I'm saying is that the 365 Fuze is novel, not revolutionary. The original 365's magazine was nearly revolutionary with it's one-and-a-half stack mag.
The 365 is a fine firearm, but the IWI and Glock offerings also are.
Now, here's the beatdown from an LE firearms instructor...NO FIREARM creates a competent shooter no matter how user-friendly it is. None of them, zero, nada. If you're untrained and suck with one gun, you'll still suck with another until someone trains you and you commit to the art.
Some firearms are more enjoyable for novices or untrained owners to shoot, and that does facilitate good instruction and sometimes encourages good habits...but NO GUN, no matter how good it is, creates a good or even competent shooter. Period. That requires commitment first, not nice hardware.
Oh, and by the way, the Masada has great ergos too and is all of 0.07" wider girth...that's about 1/20th of an inch.
@@GBGuns The Arex Delta L gets damned close.
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