His Secret Night of HORRORS Leads to a Disturbing Mystery
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Robert Wone was a leader, someone who believed in freedom and rights for everyone. When he went to spent the night at a friend's house, the unthinkable happened. This horrifying event would lead to a disturbing rabbit hole that is just as deep today as it was back then.
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Mike you are so easy to love. You have a knack for walking the fine line of respect for the victim, disdain for the criminal, & humor over the ridiculousness of the human condition.
Congrats Mike, you truly deserve it, see ya at 3 million!!!
I’m still surprised that you don’t have more subscribers.
Congratulations for two million subscribers! Also, love the background.
Tuesday Mike!!! Woo Hoo!!!👏🏼
In a world full of AI narrators, you are a breath of fresh air. I love that you have kept your wit throughout the years and are respectful to the victims. This will forever be one of my favorite channels.
Yes I agree! In fact he's gotten much more sharp and witty over the years and I love it.
and channels that don't use AI narrators are using AI generated images, thumbnails, and music. It's disgusting.
You can' trust AI to give it a goo, you know yourself.
Mike is the only true crime channel that I watch on a regular basis. His videos are well-edited, and I like his sense of humor. I don't like Mr. Ballen.
@@DW-th4xi and some channels with real hosts still totally come across as AI narrators with zero personality. I won’t name names...
The 911 operator calling him"Maam" over and over 😂😂
I'm not supposed to laugh but... I did.
Then the detective 'I got 3 homosexuals in a house with 1 straight guy. What's he doing over there?' Why is everyone being so comical?
Reminds me of Modern Family when Cam is screaming in the background and the operator says “ Can you tell your wife to calm down” 😂😂😂😂
@@DeniseF LMAO STOP
@@bees.857”Someone’s coming to Jesus that night” lol.
@@netto6681 'This is as bizarre as having a hippo in my house' WHAT.
Torture is not common, what's even more uncommon is that an intruder comes to a strangers house and takes his time torturing a man where 3 other men were.
I'd say almost unheard of. Usually if an intruder tortures and murders one person in a house, they kill everyone except sometimes they'll spare children. This case is infuriating.
Exactly 💯
Pretty sure there’s never been a case where an intruder got a victim’s semen inside their rectum!
And one of the men has these torture implements in his bedroom . I bet the ‘toys’ were never looked at by forensics . They were allowed to get away with m*rder .
But it was not an intruder, and there were not 3 men there.
Just sayin'
The fact that these 3 guys aren't in prison is unbelievable. I guess money really does buy your freedom.... Great channel Mike!!!!!
Spoiler alert!! 😂😂
It was also the strategy of not doing the jury trial. You have one person to plead the case too, and not 12. Usually harder for the defendant, unless they know how to create confusion of who it is. Hence the verdict.
They're lawyers so they knew exactly what to do
That's fine but they will pay the piper.
They will regret their evil wickedness once they are done in the world. The world they had plenty of time to turn from their evil ways but once they are expired no amount of money will save them believe that!
Believe that!
@@Fatimaezzahra11 they weren't homicide lawyers. I blame the investigators. No matter what the theory is about what happened that night, there WOULD have been some evidence left over in some way. They were either too incompetent to look or too overconfident to think they couldn't break the suspects.
The moment your story changes from. "The knife was on the counter or something" to "I pulled the knife out of him" should raise endless alarms
It did raise alarms but you still can’t prove he did anything.
That's what I thought too
It was an alarm from the phone call to the point that it was “investigated”. May he rest in peace and his wife have some kind of peace as well because there is no reason why all 3 of them shouldn’t have been convicted in some manner. A cleaned up crime scene, his own DNA inside of him? I don’t know who did it but there is no way that this could happen with those 3 in the house…..oh yeah, “allegedly “.
You can say the alarms were so endless that they were charged for it. Right??
You should mind your own business.
Dude he died hours ago, 2 of them got to shower, they cleaned up the crime scene, his body, and the knife
But why introduce another knife into the scene? Why not just make the real knife disappear?
@@chrisragona3945 I would guess in the hopes that the detectives would not look for the real knife. If they have the murder weapon, they would not be looking for a murder weapon.
Yes but couldn't the story about running downstairs as soon as they heard "grunts" have been proven to be untrue with a coroners estimation of time of death? (I agree that your scenario is the only one that makes rational sense but the story they came up doesn't mark out the time necessary to wash down Robert's body and it sounds like forensics knew that his body had been washed down. Maybe the real story lies with the identity of the father of one of those guys - maybe one of their fathers called in a favor?)
Cops just couldn’t get past their own homophobia to actually do a through investigation. It’s a shame❤
Agree
The lack of blood seals the deal that these 3 are full of BS. It's literally impossible that scene hadn't been tampered with extensively.
That second judge is insane.
The weirdest part about this is, if you were going to make up a lie to cover up a murder, why the hell would you say that you heard them come in but didn't hear them leave? Anyone with a single brain cell would say they heard the door chime on the way in and then the way out
If his heart wasn't beating, it wouldn't be pumping blood out. I think poor Robert was dead before he was stabbed.
Radio Free Asia is a CIA program
I get called "SIr" all the time on the phone, lol I have a very deep contralto voice for a female. I just go along until they ask my first name...it's all good.
@@tinkere7243how did the blood get into his intestines then?
"I got 3 homosexuals in the house. And one straight guy. WHAT IS HE DOING THERE?!" 👮🏻♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bonkers line
"I think we're all drinking wine. You know what's gonna happen tonight, you're coming to Jesus tonight."
😅
@@jamstagerable I heard that line and knew the police were not interested in the truth.
Gays and straights being friends?!? What's next, horses running Congress? Dogs and cats living together?
@@amityislandchum HAHAHA!!! Dude, I thought the same thing....I was like, "WTF is THAT supposed to mean?????"!!!
This case haunts me.. They definitely did something, and they're getting away with it. His wife is never going to get justice.
Yeah they did 😡
What if it was a man in black. Or a demon. Or ghost.
I mean odds are a lawyer and hit pet did some shit, fucked things up enough with their staging knowing the law well enough to evade punishment.
Seems risky.
No she's not going to get justice and it sounded like she decided to settle anyway (on the civil case she brought).
@@betsyj59yeah that's a bit strange considering it wasn't about the money.
I
Unless she gets her own justice
You and Coffeehouse Crime are two of my favorite true crime channels, and you’ve both hit 2 million. Congrats!!
Their two of my favourite channels too but I'd add Disturban to that list.
Don’t forget about Disturban.
Yes I go between watching the both of them, I need a crossover!
High Time is pretty engaging once ya get used to him
BEST IN THE GAAAAME THESE TWO
I'm a nurse, just wondering if maybe they used succinylcholine. Paralytic agent that they use when they need to intubate someone. It's extremely hard to find on tox screens, and there is only one way to test for it. It leaves the body very quickly, in about an hour.
Sux was my thought too. Deadly, but remarkably easier to get than other agents, and hard to test for w/ short half life. A large IM dose would still work fine
That may depend on how easy it is for a civilian to even get it. Stuff like that probably isn't at your local grocery or hardware store, unless it's also used in common household items. Although the 3 were associated with someone going to medical school so that's the most likely way they could get it.
@@diosoth the black market does not care about what's available in the grocery store.
@@roboCL0WNthank goodness too. So many important things. Even EpiPens.
These interrogators are complete idiots. Period
The same neurotic person who kept that house squeaky clean is the one who made those perfect wounds and also made sure blood didn't get everywhere. This was methodical.
Do you even know what methodical means
@@LordOfThePancakes emphasis on meth, likely
@@longarmoftheOOHLALAguess who didn't own it. Pay attention. He probably worked off his rent by cleaning. The sex was added.
@@longarmoftheOOHLALA Lol I don’t think they meant the person physically cleaning the house, but rather who had the high standard for cleanliness & maintained the house that way…
@@LordOfThePancakesyeh they had knights and the plague He used it right.
What a terrible interregator. All he does is accuse the men and yell at them. I think a more skilled interregator could have gotten one of them to crack.
Jim Smith could have done it.
Watching this was painful.
the ones I saw in actual interagations are all dumb and dumber lost brothers. Basically all they have is: we are your best friends, you would want to let the people know your side of a story, you are a good guy, and we know you did it, if you tell us we will help you out. Rotate the phrases with slight variations and run on repeat until the dude gets tired. Only smart ones are in tv-shows.
Came to the comments to say this halfway through - genuinely painful to watch. No wonder this is unsolved, the interrogator is useless
One who was well-educated and way more patient. No platitudes of fake b.s. Straight to the point. These "roomates" were intelligent and educated, you need same on the other side to mirror them.
Those three guys know exactly what happened. I think this was primarily done by Dylan Ward, covered up by Joseph Price, and painfully witnessed by Victor
💯
Yes, I agree.
nailed it...
But why? If I can’t figure it out I always think it’s meth.
@@Jamietheroadrunner man idk. The Prosecutors podcast suggested Dylan might have initiated it as a test of Price's submission and it somehow got out of hand
This one really creeped me out. The milking machine was what really the threw me over the edge. Something really creepy happened in that house. And I’m not really sure why no one’s gone down for it yet. People don’t just walk into houses, st*b people, wash them and then walk out without anyone knowing.
Milking machine?🐄😳
Either I missed that (how could I possibly?), or I haven't gotten to it yet...I stopped for a break after the "gas mask that you can pee into".😬
Ok, I put on my big girl panties and I'm going back in!💪🏼
Pray for me.
How did i miss the milking machine?! Hmm... I wonder if that's how his own DNA got inside him? So weird.
Maybe it was the brother who had a key.
I just absolutely LOATHE stories like that that are SO mysterious and weird and yet we KNOW for 100% that THREE PEOPLE know what happened that night - and aren't talking. omg, it's so frustrating.
How did you determine this 100%? Plz include equations or mathematical proof & not just a rant.
“THREE PEOPLE know what happened that night”?? What are you taking about. Joseph and Victor don’t know what happened, as is evident from *their police interviews. Even though they are clearly very intelligent men, they cannot fathom that Dylan murdered their friend, even though it’s the only logical explanation. I fully believe that Joseph and Victor are being truthful in their interviews, and do not come across as people who are trying to cover anything up. Dylan is absolutely guilty.
(EDIT for clarification: I’m referring to *their police interviews in their entirety, not just the clips which are used here.)
I hate unsolved cases as well. Also, "rant" and "clearly and absoultly guilty" talking down to you is crazy and a little 👀 because their thoughts are just like yours, an opinion. Which everyone is entitled to including you.. why do people forget this so often?!
@@LordOfThePancakesThis is a comment section on a RUclips video. This is where everyone has a rant, that’s what it’s all about. Otherwise why have a comment section at all?
@@LordOfThePancakesyou must be a 🌈 as well defending those murderers
It takes a lot to scare a paramedic; they see a lot and get to be pretty unflappable. If they were freaked there was something really wrong.
Yeah especially there!
Absolutely🎉
My thinking, just a possibility, is the men were still sky high off of the thrill of torturing their friend to death and the paramedics could smell that pure evil in the air. It's sort of a not well understood 6th sense about half of people have.
@@Endymion766 Yeah I've bet they've seen lots of people being weird at crime scenes. It's just a weird situation and people are going to be anxious and scared and robotic and odd. But scaring them? Especially when the victim is already dead? I'm 90% sure police have to secure the scene first in this kind of situation, so they should never be scared, especially indoors in a nice neighborhood. EMTs don't rattle like that either, especially in a city where they've probably been to some violent scenes. Just the guy who wouldn't face them... That would freak me out too. Something really wrong with an adult who acts like that.
The fact that his own man "stuff" was found inside him is one of the most messed up things about this whole thing. Definitely were right to feel freaked out.
Victor is the key to solving this murder. Since he's the only one who didn't change his name, he's probably the innocent one. Now that he and Joseph are no longer together, the police should get him to talk by"tickling the wire," i e., make him nervous, get him to talk, and record it. This case is definitely solvable.
to me it just makes him seem like the most brazen one. Maybe he feels the least shame because he's the worst one?
I absolutely thought the same thing.
@@dessertstorm7476that's some strange logic- usually, people get very angry when killers DO change their name and rightly so.
A person will change their name themselves or witness protection sometimes pays foe an entire new life and identity. Of course not all cases are of guilty parties, some are endangered witnesses but it's definitely something guilty people do and imo, in many cases it can put the public at risk because it can mean communities are unaware of predators living in their midst...
Him not changing his name is more likely to suggest he feels he doesn't have anything to hide.
I immediately thought so when Mike told us about the others changing their names.
I do believe he could be the one to divulge what happened and guess what? They can still be charged if it was first degree because there's no statute of limitations on first degree whereas there is for second degree although some states differ snd I'm british so not totally sure which states stand where in that.
Let's all hope that Robert- and his widow - can receive justice and that these depraved reprobates get what's coming to them.
@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey Agreed! I also think Victor is innocent of the murder, but knows who did it, because he wasn't supposed to be home that night. Now that he's away from Joseph, maybe he can be manipulated into talking.
Definitely a case of “who is mostly likely to be innocent” and my bet is also Victor. Wasn’t supposed to be there and got shooed away from the crime scene.
Either Dylan did it alone & Joseph used his legal knowledge and even possibly got his medically knowledgeable brother to help cover for him, or it was a conspiracy between these two (Dylan & Joseph) or three (the brother, not Victor).
I think they’re hiding things from Victor and even he doesn’t have enough definitive proof to offer the evidence that cracks the case back open.
Interesting they’ve all gone their separate ways now, makes me wonder if Joseph & his brother are still close….someone has to crack eventually, especially with (confirmed) distance between most of them now. This case is haunting and I pray it is resolved eventually.
The paramedics also hit the panic / emergency button on their radio btw which triggered an immediate police response to the scene even more than what was already coming to the area.
I've thought about this story a lot, over the years. I still hope one day Robert gets justice. What terrible friends to have.
you can't trust anyone. it wasn't some random person that did this.
This one haunts me, too. It's impossible! But obviously, it's not, it happened.
I do think one or some seemed good enough friends for him to stay there.
What happened???
I still keep going back to how the 3 guys were behaving when the EMT's got there. You KNOW they've seen a LOT of weird, creepy and horrible things in their careers. But this one had their hair standing up. Creepy as hell.
I hope they had at least one of them testify or something, they could tell shit was offff
do you know which channel talked about what the EMS saw in detail? I only heard one channel say none of the men showed them where Robert was and they just stood there.
I’ve seen this story many times, but you are the only one who actually made him a person with accolades and passion. 💛
💯. I'm liking and replying to your comment not only because you're right, but also because more people/everyone need to hear about this. More should be made of this, but from what I've seen the focus/interest/speculation is mostly on the sexual/sadistic aspect of the case. Human nature, I guess.
Poor guy worked so hard
@@ajpussinboots5062 your absolutely right and I’d say he focused on the sadistic stuff because that’s what the audience of this channel expects :) 😅😊
Same!!! Never seen it anywhere else
When people talk about one true crime case they'd love to have solved, this is definitely one towards the top of my list. It's just so strange.
I agree this case, JonBenet Ramsey and Ellen Greenberg are all cases that I really want to be solved. This and Ellen because we know who did it and the people are getting away with it based on bullshit. But, how is there no blood? The bed should be soaked with blood unless the killed him in the shower. They need the Dr. Henry Lee from OJ Case who had them check the shower drains for blood to do the same here. Why would an intruder come in, kill one man clean all the blood, not kill the other 3 men and steal stuff. Utter. Bull. Shit.
Well, it's either 1, 2, or all 3.
I am so disheartened and disgusted that these horrible humans got away with this murder. I hope none of them have a moment of peace in their lives.
Scariest thing on this planet is another human. No wonder I stay in lol
@@joemama1691Sounds pretty pathetic and pretty miserable living like that to be honest. To be so scared of other people you never leave your home. What waste of a life. I couldnt, and wouldnt, live like that. The world is too amazing to not go out into and enjoy life.
@@mattjack3983 it’s was mostly a joke, that’s why I put a lol at the end. Chill out, I also work nights so don’t get out much. You don’t know me or my life from a comment on RUclips lol
@@joemama1691. I agree with you wholeheartedly, but I’m serious. Single, professional, easy on the eyes - yet choose to stay home away from all the heinous possibilities that are. No harm in this decision. I’ve had a great love. Not shopping now.-
The intruder stabbed him with one of our knives" - Man, you can always tell a murder from their 911 calls, what a load of scumbags
To his defence he saw the knife before calling 911. He knew it was one of their knife by looking at it.
"The police really effed this one up the A.." 😂 (42:10 or thereabout)
I'm surprised he didn't say "no pun intended" because I know there's no way he could have missed that one, considering he reviews and edits stuff 😂😂
@@jonslg240so it was the police's DNA in Robert's bum!!
Yeah, hurriedly throwing in details and/or justifications when you’re calling in a murder has sort of become the hallmark of the red herring-dangling killer, hasn’t it? 🙄
@@jonslg240that definitely would’ve been funny, but with the subject being what it was, I could kinda see why he didn’t. Awhile back, people were giving him shit for joking around while talking about these cases.
Victor: "HELP HELP!"
911 dispatch: "Calm down ma'am!"
😂😂😂
And calls him “ma’am” more than once
I know! 😂😂😂
Virgin 911 caller voicemogged by the Chad Dispatch
Literally got away with murder, sickening...
Got away with it even with such a crazy murder scene that no intruder could have pulled off (time between supposed "grunts" and two of the guys running immediately downstairs).
Do you have evidence the police and DA didn't have?
@@scottashe984 I think the victim having a shower after being dead is a pretty good indication of foul play.
Call me crazy though.
This is like the 3rd time I saw and asian victim with incompetent interrogators. Smh
@@RHCollectoryeah straight up I think the incompetence in this case is a mixture of homophobia and not wanting to get involved with it too much, you know how straight men are “do what you want but I don’t want to see it or hear about it.”
ontop of racism and not seeing his life as valuable as they would if he was a white guy…. It’s fucked up.
I feel like the police messed this one up so bad. I think all the gaps and lack of evidence is due to police incompetency. Its a shame this poor victim was let down so bad even after the horrific crime.
It’s probably the worst police department in the nation. Corrupt and incompetent is just the beginning of the description. I know people who worked there and they fled at the first opportunity to one of the surrounding departments. Sickening the amount of incompetence and flagrant criminal behavior.
Never attribute to incompetence that which can be attributed to malice!
In this episode, Mike said “tree (3),” “turteen (13),” “turty (30),” and “turd (3rd)” thirty-one times. I believe that’s a record high. Congrats!
That's turdy one times, thank you very much 😊
@@spiderboo464lol!!!
No! Congrats to you for the stats! I do contend, however, that there's a higher count out there, but I'll leave it to you, Count Zaddy to find & compute Mike's turds for us. 🤓💩😂
I counted turty tree, but I could be off two or tree.
@@hollyharris1874😂😂 too funny! I love Mike, and all his turds!
During the 23:00 interrogation he said they all had drinks. He then later proceeds to say the victim doesnt drink....Before he even said this I was thinking the detective should of stopped and asked what drink everyone had, or at least what Robert had. It may not be the most damning evidence but at least you'd be able to catch him in a lie.
Omg you're right! 😫
NOW I'm annoyed he didn't do that.
It would be difficult to catch them on that one: after a few evenings of drinking together, they would already know what each person's favorite drink was, so it would be easy to say, "His usual Scotch and Grape Soda," or whatever it was.
That 9-11 call was ridiculous. Not trying to whisper at all while claiming he *thinks* there's an intruder in the house. Then "Oh yeah, the intruder has one of our knives". The intruder he *thinks* exists, but knows has one of their knives. Very believable.
Yeah he never came down stairs, so how would he know it was a stabbing and that a knife was missing?
That was one of the red flags- he used one of our knives, while "ventilating". Did they all run to the kitchen to see if their knives were missing, and the lame-ass "prop" of a knife on the dressing table.
@@reignman30 He saw the knife before he called 911. Remember, he went downstairs and saw the body and the knife before he was sent upstairs to call the police. Just something to think about.
@@fallenangel7884 Yeah, but killers don't enter someone's house, use one of the household knives against a very specific individual in a very specific room, then leave.
When you add in the additional evidence, that the stab wounds were slow presses rather than violent stabs, there was no resistance and it took long enough that there was blood in the digestive tract, none of their story makes sense.
@@reignman30 OMG. I never even thought of that. Ok, now I'm really freaked out. Lol.
I’m sorry but it was his friends, can’t tell me he screamed and waited an hour to call the police after the scream.
I could believe that queen screamed for an hour in hysterics.
That being said, the friends are definitely guilty.
Yeah, I'm thinking the guys drugged & jumped him.
@@daisyvibestwitchdid you hear the 911 call? All of the perpetrators are
Agree! They did it and of course they won't ever confess! Sick puppies.
@@daisyvibestwitchguess
And why were the 2 guys freshly showered- according to the Emergency responders? They never mentioned taking showers in their timeline….
Not even bright enough to "find" the body in the morning.....
The one guy said dude showered because he was sticky.
🤮
And why nobody is questioning how his sperms got into his own ass?
Let’s think about that for a minute.
Horrible. So much of the circumstantial evidence points to one (or all three) of the individuals INSIDE the house perpetrating this ghastly crime. Further, NONE of the three men were TERRIFIED that this intruder would return. As an innocent person, I would have been scared to death.
Seriously the worst interrogation skills ever. No wonder no one talked to that one cop. 🙄
complete idiots.
Yeah they were homophobic
he didn't care,. nor should he,.. these guys are just a bunch of gross subhumans. all 4 of them.
Yes you do - no I don't - yes you do - no I don't - yes you do
@@LordOfThePancakesway to make the dumbest comment of the day. 🙄
not many cases haunt me...This is one of them. The three of them are getting away with what they've done. May his wife someday know peace.
It has always bothered me too. What a nice guy, i wonder if it was sex play gone awry.
@@amywill9185 unfortunately, I don’t think we’ll ever truly know. But from what I’ve read about the case of it was it wasn’t likely consensual.
@@CapitanGrover you think he was forced.. They raped him, and ended up killing him?
Mike. Bud. These hour long videos are seriously making my week. Please, for all our sake, keep giving it a goo!
What a tragic story! Terrible that no one was held accountable.
Thanks Mike.
❤
when mike says he loves you, he means me, so dont make it weird
Hahahahaha no it’s def me 😏😘
No you silly people,
Mike loves ME 🫶🇦🇺
Nah bruh. Fantastic comment though! 😂
😂😂😂 no me
🤣 🤣 🤣...
sending the one guy upstairs to call police is very suspicious. they're definitely lying about the door, grunts, and discovering the body, which had no blood despite being stabbed 3 times, they were covering up some serious kink whether intentional or not.
Exactly why ask him to do it upstairs
It's unfortunately not hard to believe such horrible things take place. What's unbelievable is how they just totally got away with murder.
Victor looked and sounded traumatized, in the 911 phone call, the operator called him 'ma'am' a few times, normally, someone would correct them if they were not in a panic, but sounds like he was in a daze. I can't vouch for the other two, they sounded like they definitely know more.
they get called girl and refer to themselves as girls,I dont think he minded
It was his friends. Nothing was stolen, and it looked like they were drawing blood from him. Something definitely went down. This is an insane case.
yeah. "friends".
That is interesting. Did the police consider that maybe the killers injected Robert with an empty syringe ? Or they were trying to draw blood from him but air got into the syringe and bloodstream and killed him?
@@MarsMellow84 I'd think that supposedly someone with an ability to actually draw blood (a phlebotomist), would be able to do the deed. An individual fairly inexperienced in drawing blood, however let alone someone unknowledgeable in administering an inoculation would be a much riskier person to allow doing this kind of event as well. Regardless of the giving (or taking away) of fluids into a person.
As if there aren't individuals that creep into homes and murder someone and then slip into the night...If three devious masterminds killed thier friend why would they call the police? They could've reported things as stolen and also made a mess to make it look like a robbery. The victim could've been attacked while he was sleeping.
@@scottashe984 They had an alarm system.
Admitting to hearing him "grunt" or scream, is admitting they did it or at the very least, know who did it. Three holes in his chest but no blood nearby? Guarantees a cleanup and they KNOW who did it.
And then the Luminol nubes got rid of all the evidence....
Right like how you heard him grunt or the intruder but he had been dead long before you found him and the paramedics got to him?
I live in the suburbs and recall this case on the local news. Immediately, I thought it was the roommates. There is no way that that sort of thing could happen and they didn’t see something. It had to be them. Or one of them anyway, and to top it all off, they’ve gotten away with murder.
Yep they def got away with it. The saddest part imo.
They were in the cia.
Yes, they really cooked this one up@@kdc3065
Pat Brown covered this story and in my opinion, solved the case. I dove pretty deep into to this last year and she’s the only one who ever made sense of this.
The Consult (retired FBI profilers) podcast has a nine-part series on this, and it’s EXCELLENT. I highly recommend checking it out. I’d also recommend watching all three police interviews in their entirety before delving into the podcast 👍🏼
@@AxeltheGSD Thank you, I’ll totally do this!
What conclusion did she come to?
Is her video on RUclips?
It’s hard to believe they got away with this. Unreal.
Imo Dylan accidentally killed him. The stabbing was just to make it look like an intruder did it. The death was accidental by pressure on the neck arteries and that’s why the stabbing had minimal bleeding… it was done after the fact in a panic. Just speculation of course.
My same exact thoughts.
Good theory. I like it better than my own. So you think he was dead long enough for the blood in his system to coagulate and then his corpse was stabbed to make it look like he was attacked. That would explain why there was no bleeding. Could be. But I'd think he'd have to be dead for a real long time for that to work. On the other hand, that could explain the mysterious punctures on his neck. A phlebotomist might be knowledgable enough to pierce the skin to see if the bleeding times were decreasing. After a while, there would be no bleeding, and that would be the time to sink the knife into the chest.
But the post mortem showed he was alive long enough after the stabbing to metabolise his own blood. None of it makes sense.
All these replies are legitimate!
The investigators were clowns.
@@michellemeredith8351 I think the coroner said he digested his own blood. I never heard of someone metabolizing his own blood. But close enough, you are correct. Maybe he bit his lip or tongue while being suffocated and he swallowed the blood at the beginning of the attack.
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I thought he was Scottish lolololol
My favourite Irish boy is Andrew Scott. But Mike is kind of adorable as well.
Kind of crazy that Coffeehouse Crime and That Chapter both reached 2 million followers at almost exactly the same time.
@@thebetnkare you kidding?
@@thebetnk wtf
You know, that theory about the needle marks being used to drain him actually makes a lot of sense, considering how little was actually found. It's doubtful he was alive when stabbed as blood pressure causes blood to spray from wounds like that. They would have had to scrub the place more thoroughly than would be possible.
Yeah but they also said that he had blood in his intestines indicating internal bleeding. This feels like the type of case where there are super minute details which likely weren’t mentioned in this video which may cancel out some scenarios
watching you awkwardly try to explain a thrupple has to be one of the top moments of the year! should of just stopped at "doing each other" haha
It was more awkward watching Mike describe all the sex toys
I liked when he said "in his butt"
Should of? People are so dumb now.
True, they can not imagine auto correction and are calling people they do not know names.
@@had1toomany114i admit that is one of my pet peeves. Along with some of the words many Americans say incorrectly, such as "supposABLY" instead of "supposedly", "EXcaped" instead of "escaped".
Not that I'm singling Americans out specifically - I'm British, and English allegedly began in England lol but saying "should of" is pretty common here as well.
I'm a self admitted, card carrying grammar N@zi and I won't apologise for it. Nope. 😂
I'm still bothered by the lack of blood. Did he even die in that room? He shouldn't even have finished dying when the cops arrived.
Yeah that seems like the most glaring piece of evidence suggesting. Multiple deep stab wounds that severed arteries would a ridiculous amount of blood. The fact that two of them were still wet from the shower and the only blood was a tiny spot on the towel means someone brought him to the bathroom and cleaned him and themselves.
Also him having his own “DNA” inside of him points to some twisted kink and not a random break in/murder. The downstairs roomate for sure drugged him, did some horrific stuff and then either intentionally killed him or accidentally and tried covering it up.
@@thtswhtshesai6d9 I know, I was also thinking some bizarre kink, but then thinking further I came up with this possibility...
What if you are playing with another male partner, in an act of arousal you get your sperm on the other mans condom sheathed body part. Later on in another act of debauchery that condom situation winds up in your buttocks smearing your own sperm in there and none from the person who delivered it since THEIR sperm and DNA was captured inside the condom??? ...and what if they even had you put their condom on for them so their hands never even touched the condom? again, just a thought
@@thtswhtshesai6d9I watch Bailey Syrians video years ago on this and the mentioned all the toys the guys had was like a milking machine almost and it made the person ejaculate, im assuming even involuntary. Could that be a possible as to why its inside himself?
I'm with you. The lack of blood and the clean-up is absolutely stunning. Was Robert in the shower at some point too? So all the blood went down the drain?
I mean, Michael Price was literally studying to be a phlebotomist (the technician who draws blood from patients). He also had a key to get in, and wasn’t in class that night?
R.I.P. Robert.
Sounds like they killed Robert and agreed amongst themselves to stick to the same story. I would bet all 3 were in on it.
True.
I’d personally never trust a gang of homosexuals and certainly wouldn’t stay with them in any place overnight.
“Gas masks that you could pee into…”
Welp, that’s enough internet for me today! 😂
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Ha! I know things I never planned on knowing in this life.
Ur just ..o..mphobic lol
Oh it gets worse. Some people are into some wild stuff 🤣
This is definitely one piece of information I didn't need to know😂. I hate that know and can't clutch my pearls enough.
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"Our friend just died."
The detective with the "He didn't just die" 🔥🔥🔥
It's definitely something I would have said which means it's absolutely NOT a good interrogation technique 😅
lol
It just so happens that the police interrogation rooms have the worst cameras and audio on the Market...
14 years ago yes.
Not a theory, just a comment -- it is very hard to test for GHB in a tox screen. Just because they didn't find it, doesn't mean it wasn't there. I'm not suggesting he was drugged with GHB, I'm just saying there is no way to rule it out. It metabolizes much too quickly, but also, it's not something you would typically inject.
Good thought. I was also contemplating whether they could have injected him with air. Might explain the burst blood vessels in his eyes and possibly other evidence as well. Only speculating.
How would you know..? Got some experience using the substance to incapacitate others do ya?
@@LordOfThePancakesnot him, but I’ve been drugged with GHB myself and it makes you black out and lose control of your muscles. It is scary. Don’t take drinks from strangers.
av injected it before ....
much more potent than drinking it 💯💯
@@LordOfThePancakesI have been watching true crime for decades. There was a rapist in SoCal, a beach city that used GHB. It been covered for 15 years at least. If I remember they sent some samples out of the country for testing.
They used to send some of these toxicology tests to Denmark or Norway as their equipment was better. Technology improves and it depends on the quality of equipment being used.
I was thinking chloroform or nitrous oxide, but I know nothing about how gases register in a tox screen.
I totally believe the detectives messed this case up from the get go, but don’t they call in CSI people to perform the Luminol testing? Just messed up All the way around, even during the interrogations with each person; kept pressing the point of having “3 homosexuals & one heterosexual in the house” I didn’t understand where the detective thought he was going with that line of questioning🤦🏼♀️
100% screwed up the investigation. I’d be frustrated in their position, guilty or not
There are a bunch of people in these comments making homophobic jokes/statements. Disappointing.
@@mikesanders8621 extremely disappointing!
@@mikesanders8621 during pride month, too. as interesting as this case was, really not the vibe
@Giantkiller130-t yeah even Mike was giggling and making childish jokes. I honestly didn't expect it from him, kinda disrespectful.
This case is crazy!!! RIP to Robert. So awful what happened to him.
I do love the dispatcher referring to Victor Zaborsky as "M'am"
"Every holes a go" I lost it. It never fails. At least once a video Mike delivers a line where I laugh out loud.
Its "every hole is a goal", a well-known quote said by the amazing drag queen Cynthia Lee Fontaine (if I'm not mistaken) but yes, it's a hilarious quote
I choked on my ice cream when I heard it
* "a goo" lol
congratulations on 2M!!!! you deserve it (:
i’ve heard this story damn near a million times but i can’t wait to hear your telling of it. it’s the kind of case that sticks with you. it’s so surreal
Thank you so much! It’s one I’ve wanted to cover for such a long time for sure but there’s so much in it I needed to take my time. I hope I did a good enough job!
Who's to say that they didn't put the night guard in to make it look like he was in bed when he died? We're talking about a high-powered lawyer who would know these things,
Exactly. If it appears they did other stuff to cover themselves (switching the knife, cleaning things, showering, getting rid of the one used), why not this too. Its pretty obvious it would point to an intruder surprising him in his sleep (and I seriously dont believe the "intruder-commits-a-random-act-of murder in a house full of other ppl AND leaves in record time" theory).
I remember when Mike only had 100 000 followers. Now at 2 mil. Go on Mike we love ya
Yeah.. I'm one of the "old ones" too. Love seeing this channel grow ❤
Congratulations Mike on 2 million, well deserved. Been following you for years and watched the show develop, it's been a great journey so far.
I love how the detective was like yup, you heard the chime😂😂
I don't know if anyone else waits to the very end just to hear Mike say "Take care of yourself, because I Love you!" Makes my day every time! ❤🥰♥️
I do! And can't help smiling...
Can you imagine living in the basement of that house??
With a gang of raging homosexuals living above! Terrifying!!!
I love that YOU covered this case❣️ Such a desperately sad lack of justice for Robert! I feel so badly that his wife hasn't at least had any closure. Thank you for covering this case.
I've heard this story so many times, but can't wait to hear you tell it. Let's give it a goooooo!
Paramedic suggestion: If (somehow) someone managed to inject him with a paralytic; If somebody got their hands on a neuromuscular blocking agent, like succinylcholine, the victim would have suffocated death without moving. You see, in movies people are injected with paralytics and they can’t move but they can still breathe. But that’s not really how it works. Paralytics paralyse the muscles that are needed for breathing. Whoever injected him may not have known that and been surprised.
Once the perpetrator discovered he was dead he could have stabbed him to make it look like an intentional murder. if he was already dead, he wouldn’t not have bled very much.
I think you’re right! Also succinylcholine can only be detected in the blood for about 10 minutes after it wears off. So they wouldn’t have found it in a tox screen.
giving other aspiring murderers ideas in this comment section
Ok but why not just leave him as “stopped breathing”. Why stab him which is obvs. V suss? Thanks for your skills and knowledge btw.
@@louise2467 Maybe simply to “muddy the waters”. If it was a sex thing (consensual or not), if he had simply stopped breathing, considering all the sex toys and other circumstantial evidence, it would have been a more straightforward case and easier to charge and perhaps even convict. But by introducing the “some other guy did it” into the equation and making everything so weird and confusing, they actually covered it up.
Did I hear the story wrong or did the paramedics just run into an active crime scene with no police on scene yet?
1) Dylan was the sadomasochist
2) Dylan had the restraints, gags, toys, masks, tools for torture & to hold him down &, open him up (as Mike said)
3) Dylan Trained with knives
4) Dylan was missing a knife
5) Dylans room was inches from the victims room on their own seperate floor
6) Dylan was alone
CONCLUSION: IT WAS DYLAN!!!!
His own semen was in his anal cavity, probably from a condom being turned inside out, So perhaps Robert did engage in some activity with 1 of the men , but it went too far obviously in the other direction - Or maybe he refused to reciprocate positions or rejected 1 of them at some point and angered them (I agree probably Dylan).
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Mentioning the door chime on the 911 call is such unnecessary information. That seems to be a common thing the guilty party does. Whenever I hear something like that, I immediately get suspicious
well,if my TV went missing,and 30 min before it gone missing,i heard the door chime ringing...i would associate it to the theft,no?
@@ssllsg9439 Extra or superfluous details are associated with lying, I think that's what OP is trying to say.
You’re so smart! Omg
Exactly!!!
@@ssllsg9439I think the arguments more in these super stressful situations like this that the “normal” human reaction is more panic and less details and the cases where people are innocent they bascially scream at the dispatcher to “get somone here now!!” And that’s it. Details have to be dragged out of them because in these cases they are in a state of utter panic and stress. Whereas we often see in the cases of guilty parties they talk more and add in details they think help exonerate them or make them look innocent.
I appreciate that you shared their new names - how frustrating that all three have involvement and are completely silent. I can't imagine the torture they put that man through - and they're just out here.... walking around likely committing crimes solo.
People need to know just because someone is partner in a law firm doesn't mean they are special. They pay for the privilege. It costs them real money!
Granted not everyone can become partner anywhere, you have to be approved by the board but you buy your way in.
I am 100% sure the three of them did some sick stuff to him and then killed him… poor Robert… hope karma “takes care” of them… sick individuals
But we all know for a fact you aren’t 100% sure, so why are you saying 100% sure?
Someone saying "i'm 100% sure" is an opinion. He didn't say "I know it's a fact"...calm down
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I actually hate the “unsolved” ones. It means a “murderer(s) got away with it. So far….
Me too. When they get the guy it feels like the story starts to wrap up but with this its just throwing shit out there. Same with last ep :/
Riiight?? I get so mad.
In evil, cynical laughter, that's what we want you to think. Hhhhmmmmwewaaaa
For some reason, I also dont like unsolved cases. When I see in the description it's an unsolved case, I dont watch. I also skipped this one, just browsed the comments section.
Me too. I was a victim of a violent crime that was never solved back in 1994. It gives me comfort to listen to stories of solved crimes.
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Can not believe they got away with this!
Congratulations on reaching the $2m mark. You totally deserve it. My favourite channel.
I love finding a "u" in favourite in the comments, let's play Canadian or European 😂
Ok but after that we have to debate the reason as to why they put a dollar sign in front of the 2 million@Whatdoesthisboxdo
Craaazy! How awful for him and his family😢. Those 3, didn’t even sound like they were innocent. Just terrible 😞
They don’t have to sound innocent. They just have to be not guilty.
Does anyone else fully believe Mike when he says he loves us..?? There’s not an ounce of doubt in my mind. We love you too, Mike! You are the best!!
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@@roxanneb8844 My guess is you weren’t loved enough, why do you constantly need to down everyone’s comments ? I bet deep down You just need a friend. Are you okay, Roxanne?
@@roxanneb8844 Pretty sure everybody knows that. They're just having some fun.
@@roxanneb8844 You can have a general love for a group. Even if you don't have an individual deep love for each person like you seem to think it means. I love all cats, even though I haven't met them all.
@@MadAliceInWonderlandI couldn't agree with this more. I, too, love all cats. ❤
They all killed him and cleaned up the scene, got their stories straight and called the police.
Been watching before 1 million, now we are at 2?! You desrve it all mike! We love you. On to the next chapter ❤
Poor Robert he spends the night at a friend’s home for the first time, killed and NO ONE in that house knows what happened?? Don’t buy it. Someone in that house got away with murder.
Rest in Peace Robert 🇨🇳
Poor Mike, he’s never seen modern sex toys before
Dont be so naive, he went there for fun times. He was bi and cheating on his wife
How does that change the meaning of the original comment? He still didn’t go there to be killed and it’s still a tragedy.
@@daysoff4ever Not true. He actually asked a female friend if he could stay with her prior to going to these sick 3's house. They were the second option that late at night.
@@daysoff4ever were you there? You don’t even know what you’re talking about.
2M, smoking that cigar Mike! Well done and well deserved. Congrats and warm greetings from Sydney, AUS.
Wow Mike, this so disturbing and sad, that Robert's murderers weren't brought to justice. Feel bad for his wife and family. Everything was too clean cut. I believe, they tried to force Robert into some weird, kinky sex acts, and he resisted, so they drugged him. Just trying to piece this together. No matter, Roberts life was ended by sick people. 😔🙏
I think it was consensual and something went horribly wrong so they covered it up.
Fun fact. He originally asked a female friend tonstay at her place, but she declined. Staying with those guys was his second option.
Weird he didn’t get a hotel, or just drive home.
@@ohioplayer-bl9em I mean he probably thought he was safe with them
Is that indeed a fact?
@@BorrisBackyardiganoh yeah there’s a LOT more to this case. But to be fair- Mike doesn’t do longer deep dives.
Wow that’s sad. I feel sorry for the friend that said no. She must be feeling so bad, like “if I would’ve let him stay…”. That’s really sad
This is certainly the strangest case I've ever heard of. Someone sure as hell tampered with that scene.
I honestly enjoy the longer videos. I listen while I’m working. Still enjoy ALL of your videos. I just personally like the longer videos. Congrats on the 2 mil, and enjoy your break!
Dang, Mike, this might be your strangest story ever. Nothing makes sense. Praying for some answers for his family. I am sure he is sorely missed.
This is truly the most upsetting, disturbing true crime case.
It’s so clear those men tortured him. I don’t even know how tf his own DNA got inside of him, what they could have done to do that. But I have no doubt in my mind that they did this.
So uhh... when I heard it I instantly thought of a type of dildo that's created to simulate ejaculations by filling it with an imitation substance.
They used a turkey baster.
I actually think that part is false, I think either the cops or the testing was compromised because it makes absolutely no sense in any scenario. After hearing how they messed up with the blood testing solution it makes even more sense that this was simply incompetence.
@@killercat1981….you can’t just speculate that when there is zero information to suggest that’s true. Just because it’s weird to you, doesn’t mean it’s not factual.
@@killercat1981With all the other insane stuff found in their home, this actually tracks.
Thank you Mike! Working from home is always better on Tuesdays and Fridays!
There's a favorite drug serials sometimes use. I can't remember the name of it but it instantly paralyzes you but you still feel the pain. This could also account for his bulging/bloodshot eyes from a spiked blood pressure and difficulty breathing. So so sick...😮
Yes, they were also homosexuals. Can’t be trusted!
Your channel is the best because there’s nothing fake about you. You’re authentic and true to yourself. You have a great sense of humour but at the same time you’re respectful to the victims and their families.