This ENGINEER APP helps you Build Setups in Forza Motorsport!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Setups in Forza Motorsport are hard to create - but with the iOS and Android App "Forza Tune" this apparently becomes a piece of cake! Joe shows you what the App is all about and weather you should consider downloading it!
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The biggest problem with manual tuning for me as a more casual player is to learn how to actually make a good tune, because all the tunes you can download are locked, so when you find a tune you mostly like you cannot finetune it for yourself or even see how it was tuned to try to learn something. All videos are mostly general tips, and while helpful, its not the same as learning from a tune that you like..
Just a quick tip. If you are in the tuning menu in forza you can toggle what is shown on the right of the screen (keyboard hotkey it is R). You can see all the required specs that you would need to input into the app. Saves a bit of time and makes it so you dont have to go into seperate menus. The gear tuning still requires that you drive, I can only help so much.
I use the app. Its not perfect, but if I've got a car that handles particularly badly, a little tune with the app sorts most things out. Especially the track by track tuning. You can see the differences between ride hide and aero requirements. Worth the few quid in cost.
definitely been worthwhile for me, been using this tool since forza horizon 4 and it's been a real help to get my cars where i want them. the gearing tunes are kinda hit or miss for me but overall makes for an easy way to get a base tune!
Thank you!
I've now tried the app on the 2015 Manthey Porsche, which was very difficult for me to master. I was very suspicious because the settings determined seemed quite strange to me. But the car really drives a lot better afterwards and you can see it in the lap times.
Great app and definitely worth the money.
I tell you what, i'm a believer in this app!! I was able to drop .8 sec on my previous best within 3 laps after applying the tune settings! good stuff! (have only tried it on one car, #66 Ford GT Le Mans)
Thanks for sharing this app with your channel! And thanks for the comments everyone -- it seems like most agree the best part of the app is making those fine adjustments. Then the tune is truly *yours*.
@@Lukas-lp2fz Wow, really deep answer. You had help or do it all alone?
@@Standgedicht SMH.. Let her live LOL
Imagine my suprise when I saw the app was made from folks right here in Lancaster, PA. Lol. Couldn't belive it. I was guessing maybe an F&M student? Elizabethtown Forzaplayer here checking in. I quite like the app. PERFECT for baseline tune. But the customize fine tune at end is what we're paying for.
@therlandjr.2121 Hello, fellow PA resident! Thanks for supporting my work. Though the app has a legal address registered in Lancaster I am a bit of a drive northeast. Still, not too far. Small world!
A quick tip for the simulated top speed - It says in the app to adjust the Final drive to the get the top speed but also what i do is max aero to the speed side - this way you get the cars maximum top speed which is what you want before you calculate the ratio - so adjust the final drive and aero to the speed side till you get the maximum speed - then click calculate for a true value. then you can just adjust your aero per track when needed.
Are you talking about the gear tuning?
@@DjCliff86 Aerodynamics
Been using it for years - its not perfect but its good enough for me to buy it every time - most of the times it just works - until you get a great tune but bounces all over the place lol
I’ve used it for years , the tunes are faster than what the default settings are. It works, they just recently updated it for forza Motorsport, now you can pick a track to tune to the individual tracks . It’s definitely been worth the $5 . Covers multiple games . I podium races and my lap times are in the top 10%, use the tune from the app to get a better tune then slightly tweak it to fit your driving style.
I bought the full version and used the G80 M3 to tune the car and it absolutely ruined the handling using this app! Kept on oversteering even with slight steering adjustments and having to constantly adjust the steering wheel as a result using a racing wheel. In my opinion it doesn’t work and makes the car handle even worse. I’ve now started to learn about car tuning and have now played around the settings myself. Don’t bother with this!
For info, some people have shown tunes provided by that app weren't really good, some being even slower than default settings.
I used it myself for a while, and it seems it has really "generic" values for a lot of things, and the result isn't always satisfying, sometimes it just feels bad. In hindsight, even if the principle of the app is very cool, wouldn't personally recommend it.
Maybe it got better though ! I used it two years ago.
Oh and nice video ! :)
The creator has literally NEVER updated the formulas used to generate the tunes, so I would say you should avoid it at all costs.
@@firedell1031lol you have no clue, the formulas get adjusted each game, especially for the new Motorsport given how much they have changed with the physics
@@racdude01 Absolutely not. Each game just has different minimum and maximum settings on a lot of the settings, so it **looks** like the formula is different.
The end result and feel of the tunes has literally never changed.
@@racdude01he says he uses the realism formula, which doesn't needs to be changed. So, he's contradicting his own statement by saying he changes it?? Sounds like a massive scam to me
@@firedell1031 I mean hey if it’s not broke why change. Shit works great for me
For someone that cannot do the math for the suspension tuning instead of just randomly sliding around the sliders to get results good or bad this is wildly helpful.
Im not looking to get the fastest times and I appreciate the application for what it is.
On my own I was choosing arbitrary percent increases or decreases for any given window in regards to suspension.
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5, 10, 20, 25 % on the extreme end increases or decreases. Anyone has any other advice besides using the app to do guest work in primarily the suspension windows please comment.
I’m no pro tuner but i’ve got a tune up for the 2020 supra if you’re interested. From there you can tell me your likes an dislikes about it and i can tell you my little theories (my tunes are 5 second tunes no math no in depth tuning yet, but i’ve read a bunch and i’m working on some strategies!)
@@capticeberg6683where can we find some. I’ll try them out
I wouldnt rely on it for competitive online play. But i used it in horizon 5 for single player. Made a pretty good z/28 camaro tune even without my adjustments.
The app isn't very good tbh. Don't expect top times using those tunes.
BUT it's a good start and helps understanding FMs tuning logic so it IS useful.
It's not good, and it doesn't help you understand FM's tuning logic, so it's NOT useful in any regard.
@@firedell1031 well thanks then for telling me that my personal experience is all wrong. Any other advice regarding my life?
@@mfsars1075 For tuning, Hokihoshi worked with some people from one of the fastest teams on the game to make an in-depth tuning guide for practical tuning. It describes what each thing does in Forza, and is probably a bit different as to what you may have taken away in regards to what each setting does from when you were using the app.
@@firedell1031I find the app gives a good starting point to then apply what hoki suggests in his video
@@firedell1031 I know the video* and I'm using it too. But for a beginner it's hard to start with 40/40 or 4/4 11/11 and that's where the app helped me. Sometimes I do both and try to find a middle ground I can work with. I built a Porsche 911 that way who made it into the top 3 in Europe on VIR Grand West.
*HokiHoshi's guides are the best in the game btw
Not perfect, but gives you a more stable setup than the Forza Stocks. You can use it as a default setting and start balancing the car to you liking from there. It's a nice tool and it's cheap. So worth it.
It’s a great guide line ❤ a tuner is essential even in the real world. And that’s what this app is a personal tuner. Great work and worth the money if you work hard for it support them. And not use the free version only 🎉 congrats on your achievement and success blessings to you and yours. By the way is there a decal I can apply to my cars ? Tuned by ? So they know know 😂 that would be fun 🤩
The Best Sim Channel Ever!! Thanks for the guides!!
As someone who finds the tuning pages of any Sim Racing game to be pretty intimidating, this is something I will absolutely check out. Right now I follow youtuber and other forum setups, trying to understand how their tunes are impacting my times... but I never fully understand what it is I am doing. I think this will help make the tuning area of this game to be less frustrating for me, and I might even learn something. lol.
The app is honestly straight up a scam. Cannot recommend you check it out in any circumstance unless you just wanna compare how bad it is compared to a well-tuned car.
Hokihoshi recently made a tuning guide for the game with the help of one of the best teams in TORA (fastest community on the game) to make a **practical** tuning guide, and he explains what each setting **actually** does.
For beginners, it's easily and by far the best resource for tuning your cars better.
Don’t bother I was the same as you and I bought Forza Pro but it’s not very good you can get downloads from in game creators that are much better I found the standard setup quicker than the suggested app setup truly not worth buying. I went on rivals and much much better setups available for free
Just don’t. Watch Hokis Tuning guide and skip the “realistic settings” garbage, Forza Physics is weird and requires extreme settings to get the best out of most cars
@@magz9816while yes there will be faster player created tunes it can be quite difficult to figure out which tunes will work best for you and those tunes are always locked so there’s no fine tuning you can do. With the app you can set up your own tune and slowly refine it over time to best suit you. Essentially taylor a tune to your style rather than tayloring your style to a specific tune
@@racdude01 I get what your saying however the default tunes are faster than the app so for me it was a waste of money
But…. You didn’t say how it actually drives. Are the tunes good at all?
he is probably under NDA so he wont tell you that app sucks. People who think that they've gotten faster are only doing it by placebo
The app has been around for over 10 years. It's awful. The cars are a mess no matter what sliders you move around.
@@222RAFTER He's not under any NDA. The app has been around over 10 years.
I own the app and used it in fh5 and Forza Motorsport. The app works really well developed by an engineering grad. Every Forza title has slight variations. So I'm now in Motorsport. The app gives you a balanced car and a gear ratio for power bands. So when you change gear you are not going from third gear to a gear that feels like A gear missed. It will make your car more tuneable, but the Forza nerds just cut coners and cheat you off the track. The app works the game needs better rules.
dose it work Yes to a degree, Dose it make the car better then Forza Stock Tuning Hell Yes, is it perfect Nooo, But it gives you somthing good to work with,
Been using the pro version for over a year now. On fh5 n motorsports, it helps but needs a few tweaks
I've been using the app for a while now. I was already using it regularly with Horizon 5. It's not perfect, but neither are my own tuning skills. On the contrary, the app delivers much better results than if I bungled the tuning myself. I've used it to tame many a car that was undriveable for me. But I don't know if I can use it for competitive settings for online races because I only drive in single player.
I've used this app for a long time and it's far from perfect but it is handy. It always suggests too much camber, doesn't really offer any toe suggestions, tyre pressures usually need a double check and it's only really good for spring rates on an unbalanced front to rear weight ratio. It's a good start for a base but I find it always needs lots of tweaking to get the most out of the car. You can get the info you need from inside the tuning screen as you can toggle the info screen to get the weight, front rear balance, PI and driven wheels layout.
It's actually really good for beginners because you can tweak some sliders to change the balance of the car so you can use that info to learn what changes to the anti roll bar, springs and dampers do for creating your own tunes. It's not going to break any record times but it is a good tool to have for Forza games, especially for people who have no idea about tuning. Also probably a good thing it doesn't really take into account any of the meta tuning exploits.
scam app
People already laughed about the tuning guide and yet they “test” this garbage instead of warning in the title.
100% gives very very bad tunes it’s almost laughable
@@rennat99no the games default tunes are laughable bad the app offers a significant improvement over the default tune. It won’t be the fastest tune nor will it make you a better driver but it will give you a consistent drivable car that won’t be fighting you so you can atleast learn the tracks and improve your skills
@@racdude01less garbage isn’t good.
@@racdude01 lol, lmao even. Nice lies, try a little harder next time, the app is a scam and you know it
Forza tune is a scam, please never use it, the stock tune is better and you can learn how to tune very well from hoki hoshi’s video
Forza Tune is a good place to start for beginners to learn what the individual tuning adjustments do, but it tries to be a "one size fits all" app that is just impossible given the sheer amount of cars in Forza, and the different driving styles people have as well. However, for true performance gains, trial and error is still the preferred method if you have the time because then you are tailoring the tune to a specific car, track and driving style. There is also Meta Tuning that is basically exploits and treat Forza like a game vs. a semi-realistic sim. This involves making adjustments that would never work IRL, but work in Forza because it's a video game and not IRL. A few content creators have teased this with extreme settings, but they are NOT Meta Tuners. So, trying their settings is actually going to make you slower than if you knew the ins and outs of real Meta Tuning, and there is a lot if you research it.
This is true, unfortunately. Irl adjustments won't work on several cars. Personally, I'm allergic to understeer, so I spend a lot of time trying to tune it out without making the back end step out so much that I'm always countersteering. So none of the Meta setups work for me, and none of the tuning apps help either.
@@jamesmoore7858 The majority of road cars in Forza Motorsport (all versions) have inherent understeer because they're designed for the general driving population and not professional race drivers who need more precision. For some cars, the understeer can't be tuned out using normal or Meta methods, unfortunately.
HokiHoshi actually worked with a high-tier TORA team to make a fully in-depth tuning guide, so I'd recommend that anybody trying to tune their car should check that out if they don't already know how to tune in Forza, as it's **actual** practical Forza tuning.
@@PLAYER_42069 You absolutely can get understeer out of any car unless it's specifically built to understeer endlessly (i.e. a stock tire, stock front width, max rear width, 1000hp Mk1 Golf with only rear aero)
@@firedell1031I saw that video. Made my cars a real pain in the ass to drive. Extremely stiff ARBS suck. I prefer them soft. And acceleration diff all the way up sucks as well for the RWD cars. Overtake gg’s video on tuning is much better.
This app sucks. I got paid version and it doesn’t feel good with the tunes
Love this app. Been playing Forza since it was a demo on Xbox Magazine, and this app works great. I don't really use the Gear tuning, but the fine tuning on the Pro version works amazing. Definitely worth it.
Love this app, i use it for every car in rivals and multiplayer. Because of it i managed to reach top 100k in rivals a break top 20 in multiplayer races ^^
This app is so good I’m not even on the rivals leaderboards in a DNF 9/10 MP races.
Is it right to adjudte the gears before final tunning??? It doesn t seems right because the top speed is diferrent before and after tunning.
Question: how trustworthy this app is? I mean seeing the differential so low in acceleration ( 8:15 ), it does not look good for rotations. Just asking.
its a scam don't bother
I just watched Loki Hoshi's video and learnt from it. @@vap4362
It's fantastic...careful of those saying otherwise. Chances are they use it but don't want others to. I've gotten to top 1% on the tracks I've tried in Rivals mode using tunes from this app. Best $8 I've ever spent.
it's pretty much a scam, the tunes are garbage and usually make the car worse. there are a ton of really good tunes shared on discords like forzaverse or tora, and usually the really good tuners are willing to help you and test your tunes as well. don't use any Tuning or calculator, they are all garbage
@@wrinklysoldier5244 bruh you can use a stock car and get 1% Rivals atm. There is barely any competition in Rivals.
What are your thoughts about the Tune It Yourself app? It connects to the UDP Telemetry Data output and uses actual car data that it collects while you drive to tune the car!! I'd be interested to hear what you think about that.
Not available outside US
Would like to see a dragtace tune and see if the app is good enough
I been using this for about a month and been really happy with how it gets the car close to what i want and very little fine tuning is necessary , love the gearing part helps alot alot..
Forza tune gives the same tune eveytime no matter how much info you put into the parameters. Always same toe, the springs are always wrong . Forzatune is a joke.
I dislike this app because it may mislead people into thinking tuning in forza is way more complex than it really is. On top of that the tunes it gives aren’t great.
Forza is not a sim, no good tuners use formulas or spreadsheets. Knowing some guidelines you can make a good tune in 5-10 minutes or less that will be much better.
If you mess with the oversteer/understeer balance settings then you end up wasting so much time testing each change while having no idea what’s going on. If you do this it takes way longer than just tuning yourself.
I would like the game to actually run on PC. Never mind "setup" I can't get that far.
If you are unsure how to do all this. Just keep watching the video 😂 FOR SCIENCE!!
I like it for gearing only
Bought the app, first car i seach for isnt on there.
App is great but there are some settings that you should adjust on your own since for some cars more extreme settings for ARB, aero and so on are faster and easier to drive.
That's because those extremes are basically exploits called Meta Tuning. Meta Tuning gets boring because once you learn the tips and tricks... And it's very extensive if you dive into it beyond some of these content creators who think they know how to Meta Tune, but really don't... Winning becomes too easy, ironically.
@@PLAYER_42069 I watched almost every FM23 guide on YT and had good results with Hokis approach.
I think the reason so many people here are conflicted with this app is because of the many different cars in this game. Someone will try it on one car and they get trash results and someone else will try it on a different car and get better results than default. At least in my testing, I play only TCR racing and this app will make any of those TCR cars handle better than default. Took my first pole position in the introduction race with the Honda TCR using the free app while everyone else was most likely on the default tune. I moved on to creator tunes now but IMO, this app isn't bad for TCR cars. Some will say it's a scam but to me, it's dependent on what car you're driving. It can help you out or it'll make things worse.
TCR? WTF is TCR?
Forza tunes is worse than the default tunes you get in the game. is just generic generated tunes with data from previous Forzas.
Guys do what it says put in the tune then when you're done it press the red button leve it there test the tune it it said to do change if you get understeer it change this setting on the white screen the press done put in the New tune it gives you do this into your can't go any faster then change down forces you want get an good tune for you it took me six or so different versions and tweaking it on the white screen to get one for me plus you have to put laps in the setups you make and push them you lot think you get a mega setup straight away that does not happen pros takes days to get a good one I use the free version and it works for me
the app is absolute garbage, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. The app just doesn't do what it's advertising, it just doesn't work. The way the app goes about tuning the cars is completely backwards, forza tuning simply doesn't work like that. The app has been debunked many times over the years by promonent members of the community. Ask any competent forza player, they will tell you the same.
Used this app for years for setting base tunes. Never had a problem with it. Makes cars work way better than not tuning with standard settings.
PSA: Never use any tuning apps, they're all useless
Forza tune is just scam…Not even good for beginners
100% glad I’m not the only one, the setups are terrible and loose af, and then you ask to for a grippy setup and it makes wrong adjustments or none at all. Complete joke
It’s better than a default tune so it certainly is good for beginners who wouldn’t otherwise tune their own car, they may even learn a little from it in terms of what adjustments do what
@@rennat99 you have to go into the third page to set how tight u want the car and the body roll etc and also the cars cornering from entrance to exit has to be adjusted to your likings then the tunes with a wrench next to them are the ones with the new values u have to go back and adjust to tighten the car to your liking with. If you want it tight this will make it so if you go in and set it up right...
also if your talking about the free version then yes it is just a little better than default but when u own the app u can make your car tight loose and many more things u said it doesn't do it does...
@@racdude01 No it is not…sepi has a video on that if u want to watch
A big scam, don't by this s**i!
Is aproximative tunes, not work correctly in low lvl cars. Section tunes not covered by this app.
Just a big joke!
The app is not really worth in IMO. It MIGHT give you a better base setup than stock, but it’s usually too loose and when you try to ask it to fine tune for tighter or looser it just doesn’t work and often times gives bad tunes. If you need gearing advice then you arnt trying hard enough to learn how to tune. Not worth the $5
Love the app, use it for all my cars in Horizon 5 and I’m generally able to contend for the podium in the trial.
Haven’t used it much in Motorsport yet and haven’t compared it to various meta tuning guides. My biggest complaint would be changing from one track to another will give different suspension values but gearing stays the same even when selecting drag or drift so that’s definitely something you’ve got to fine tune on your own
I just unsubscribed because you sold out on this vid. If you'd have bothered to actually use the app you'd realise it was terrible and useless
Been using this app for a while myself :)
too much trouble
I wish someone made something like this for gt7...
U should be glad instead. That app is a massive scam, and in no way it is helpful
@gopikrishnapremchand6402 why tho? It looks decent, or do you know something I don't?
@@justjustas69 except it isn't decent. That app is a complete scam, which doesn't help u go faster. Heck, they even go slower than stock setup. It has been proven and they have been scamming others for years. Also, Forza Tune App always follows "realism feel" and apply real life logic, but this game is a simcade, not even a sim, where real life logic won't make sense. I'd say go and watch HokiHoshi's tuning guide setup if u really want to know how to tune.
@@justjustas69 long story short: the app doesn't work as advertised. the tunes you get from it are absolute garbage 99% of the time. it's pretty obvious to see when you know what actually good tunes look like, in this video for example the max/max aero is a dead giveaway, rear aero should never be that high. diff, arbs, damping and ride height also jump out to me immediately
I downloaded this and saw how terrible the setups it was giving me and got a refund.
Don't fall for this scam.. It's so generic and doesn't work most off the time. I'd say you have more chance just using the base tune Forza delivers than using this app.
If you want to really make progress on tuning you're way better off using a tuning guide and tune yourself.