i binged it when i was 8 and then had to frantically look for a way to delete the watch history on hulu before my mom got home (still came out to her later tho)
I will never not refer to that British actor as “The guy who played Mason in Wizards of Waverly place, the pillow lips one.” I don’t think I’ll ever be capable of registering and logging his name into my brain.
12:00 "Pretend to be sick to get out of the threesome" [Forges a doctor's note to get out of my polyamorous sexual encounter] this isnt queerbaiting this is *QUEER BIG BASS FISHING TOURNAMENT*
I think the “them dating ruined the friendship” thing was just a popular tween/teen tv thing in the 2010s. Girl Meets World, Austin and Ally, and the Vampire Diaries all tried to play with this trope too. Makes a good excuse for a multi-season on again off again relationship, or a reason for a show to refuse to experiment with a pairing at all. Still doesn’t make any sense as a trope though
as bad as this show (esp about sexuality), it was also my first time hearing about intersex people, which made me google it to find out if it was even real and to this day i remember reading that its approx. 1% of the population, which is a huge number! made it even weirder that noone was talking about it. i even watched a short documentary after that so ironically i was left a little less ignorant after watching an (at times) ignorant show lol
You obviously have left an impact on me because When you said that you hate when a show says that they're really good but they suck at singing, all I could think about was Violet from WordGirl
I used to watch faking it at least once a year; the drama, cringe, and characters were peak guilty pleasure. Side note: Felix was my absolute favorite character, as I remember it he was the most grounded character out of the whole cast.
I’m personally offended this show didn’t feature Mason Wizards of Waverly Place kissing boys but instead featured Mason Wizards of Waverly Place as a chaser
as absolutely horrible as Karma was, she unfortunately looks like one of the Types of girl i inevitably always develop crushes on also, as the kind of person whose toxic trait is falling in love with their friends🤠, this is the terrible representation i deserve!
I’m still convinced Karma is on the queer spectrum (probably bi with a lean to guys) but refuses to admit it, I mean why else would she WANT to keep kissing Amy?
i was so pissed when they had amy sleep with liam. Up until that point the show had heavily implied she was a lesbian. They really decided to go with the 'lesbians will sleep with guys' route. obviously i had to hate-watch it for the train wreck it was. but they could not come up with a more unsatisfying ending. they know their audience was rooting for karma/amy as that was the crux of the show and then they just find replacement karma to put amy in a relationship with because i guess making karma bi was too much??? even though that's what they were building up to?
I’m still convinced Karma is on the queer spectrum (probably bi with a lean to guys) but refuses to admit it, I mean why else would she WANT to keep kissing Amy?
I watched this as a kid, and even back then the show made me really uncomfortable with the way they treated bisexuality, and all the adults dating teenagers, still, I couldn't stop watching, the drama really kept me interested, and I liked seeing gay people like me for a chance, thanks for the video.
I remember initially tuning in to Faking It to hate watch, thinking "fake gay? let's tear it apart." I was probably around 15 and shocked that I really connected with Amy as a character, and that it was really some of the first unfiltered represention I'd seen in teen dramas. There were occasionally queer characters on other shows, but not multiple, and everyone with unique attractions, where it was okay to be in the grey or without a label. Don't get me wrong, it was also *extremely* problematic, but they did try to do something I didn't feel like anyone else was doing: give queer and questioning kids some messy drama storylines like all the mostly-straight shows got. It was a serious guilty pleasure for teenage me
32:53 I agree, I’ve started referring to these shows and movies as “brain junk food” it’s good, they’re fun to watch, but I’m gonna acknowledge that IRL I don’t want these type of relationships and that they’re unhealthy
It is so comforting to know you were going through your sexual identity crisis at the exact time as me. Because Faking It was one of my defining moments as well. Although the real realization came while watching Scream: The Tv Series. I will not be elaborating. If you know anything about that show, you can put the pieces together. 🙃
girl you are me!! I was so obsessed with this show and with scream mtv and little queer me was just trying to put all the pieces together back then lol
this is actually one of very few youtube channels that makes me feel like i have a busted lung after any video. i’m not sure if i just have a jank sense of humor but the organized chaos that emanates from these videos rattles my brain in a good way. thanks Athena for making me laugh until my chest hurts
I remember wanting to get into this show cause I kept seeing gifs of Shane and the mma guy all over tumblr and I thought it was really cute, but I couldn’t get through the first few episodes so I dropped it lol Thanks for the video! It’s nice to learn about what this show was about after all these years 😊
32:06 I agree with that! My partner and I were friends for years, and we ended up becoming a couple (going on 2 years strong after being friends since 4th grade). I kept hearing things like "Dating your friends only makes drama!" and "You're going to drive a wedge between you two and your other friends!" (we had another strong mutual friend at the time), but I find that it just takes communication and healthy boundaries. We still go out to tea places and hang out and make crafts just like we used to when we were just friends, but now there are sleepy cuddles involved as well :]
When you mentioned that Karma is actually a good singer, I thought I should mention that I vividly remember Katie Stevens being my favorite on American Idol when I was 8, a completely normal obsession for a straight young girl to have.
i was truly gagged and speechless when you said "can you believe this all happened in 20 minutes" I THOUGHT YOU WERE SPEED RUNNING THE SEASON WHAT IS THIS SHOW
Bro, this was one of the shows middle school me was watching late at night on MTV (or when nickelodeon switched to nick at night). I recently rewatched Faking it, and omg, "progressive and problematic" is kind of the best way to describe this show.
Athena: "and Amy drops the L word" Me: "the L word? Lesbian" Amy: "I love you" Me to myself: "come on man! You read the _Scott Pilgrim_ comics, you should know that the L Word is 'love' not 'lesbian'! ... whait, did Scott got confussed because he associated the expression 'the L word' with the CW's queer tv show _The L Word?_ ... this somehow makes me feel even more stupid"
I've been waiting for someone to talk about this show!! I remember loving it (and still do) yeah it's not the best show but it was my gay awakening and will always have me in a choke hold along with awkward
Queer people deserve to have mediocre Shows just as much as CisHet people do! I remember Tumblr having back-and-forths over if this Show deserved to be ‘cancelled’ or not but like.. not all Queer Media has to be perfection! We should celebrate that a trainwreck like this got so many Seasons and put new Queer storylines out into culture for better Shows and Movies to pick up and do better.
@@ZxykaryExactly. Part of being accepted as a regular person is seeing all aspects of a personality including the toxic ones. Shows with flawed cis het white male characters win Emmys. We need more examples of not perfect LGBTQ+, non-white and female characters so it can actually become normalized.
You just showing that little thumbnail of "Awkward" brought back so many memories 🤣 I used to get so much crap for my friends for watching it because toxic masculinity lol
Omg I remember faking it! Karma wasn’t the best friend to Amy. Amy was a hopeless romantic, Liam got with karma and amy (yet nobody talks about that!) and shane was never funny. Also karma trying to be popular is overrated like girl it won’t matter.
First video of yours that I didn't see the show, I stayed far away from MTV tbh lol. Feels like a show that I would be cussing out some people, can't stand school settings like this. But it's better when you're explaining it.
Anthena P, you should do electric company that aired on pbs kids because of the the show having musical esc songs and I feal like it would let our your thresher kid energy. ;)
i binged this show when i was 13 because i though it was a fake dating x childhood friends to lovers x sexuality awakening story... i was Not Prepared for whatever this show was 😭
honestly, as someone going to a similarly "progressive" school, this doesn't seem that far off. (except for dating adults! most students are so opposed to age gaps that people are outcasted for dating a grade below themselves)
Can't believe no one remembers that the Shane/trans guy character (Elliot Fletcher) relationship involved in the second to last ep Shane running around asking everyone if it's okay if he's always liked "candy cane" but now he likes "peppermint bark". Forever imprinted in my poor little trans brain lmao.
my favourite part of the video is when you said you'd hold the viewer's hand and actually followed through and kept it there. it made me feel safe. or maybe i'm touch starved.
The Karmie ship that you talk about at the end reminds me of the reasons for Catadora NOT to be end game couple. Please do a She-ra and the Princesses of Power lore.
"Two people in love with the same person, hurt by the same person, do it. Does it make sense?" Well, teenagers don't make sense. Because something similar-ish happened to me. And i still think what they did remarkably stupid. *Flashback 10th or 11th grade* I was asked to prom by a guy "as friends". I said sure. We were in some clubs together and in one act plays (as lights/sound/stagehands) so i'd say we were decently close. He made the gods-awful decision to tell me he likes me at 6am at the start of a 2 hour busride to a one act performance. I told him i didn't feel the same, but that i wasn't going to not go to prom with him as friends for his asking. Cut to prom. Another friend of mine comes up to me and is all upset that she told a guy she liked him and he...said he liked me (bear in mind i'd spoken to this person maybe twice). By the end of the night, when the guy who liked me and the girl who got rejected by a guy who liked me had comforted each others' broken hearts...they started dating. That night. It did not go well and he apparently kept pressuring her into sex and she would come to me upset but then call him to join us while we were hanging out. In the end i had to drop them both completely out of my life Compared to my telling a guy i liked him: i said i had to tell him so i'd feel better but i knew he was gay and obviously would not feel the same. We stayed friends and even when we haven't seen each other for nearly a decade, we got along very well when we did meet up.
I'm so glad someone made a video about this show because let me tell you, me and my friends were obsessed with this in high school because I'm a gay man who had two girlfriends and they were starting to have feelings for each other and then they kissed and the other kissed a boy... it was like we were living in our very own teen drama and then this show happened at the same time ☺idc if it is bad, I have a lot of great memories watching it and shipping Karma with Amy and loving Shane. 💙
I was just talking about 'Faking It' with my mom the other day. I remember it so well because I was obsessed with it since it came out when I had realized I was LGBTQ. It was the only show I have ever watched every episode of as they were aired on TV because I was that obsessed.
Horrifying to hear this show exists! It feels like the writers were trying to dance in a minefield for views but they triggered multiple mines and then kept dancing with missing limbs. I understand why young people questioning their sexuality would be fascinated because if my parents didn't keep the TV permanently on fox news I probably would have been obsessed too.
I feel like I occasionally saw gifsets of this show but I never actually watched it. Am also bi so loved the bi makeup! Yay for bi (and intersex!) representation in media, but boooo for blatant biphobia (not to mention all of the other problematic aspects you touched on). I know Gregg Sulkin from Wizards of Waverly Place (and also Pass the Plate lmao), but was the actor who played Shane the main guy in GBF?? If so, him being the character that outs so many people becomes much more layered lol. (And if it’s not him then whoops disregard this point). I enjoy your commentary just as much as your lore! Even if I don’t have firsthand experience with the subject. Also would love to hear your take on Awkward. because that show had a hold on me back in the day!
I USED TO LOVE THIS SHOW AND WOULD LITERALLY WATCH IT EVERY TUESDAY WHEN IT AIRED. I totally forgot about this show and am slapping my forehead because of it. This was such an Era with The Inbetweeners, Skins, and does anybody remember that show about Hunter? Dammit I've been watching your channel for a few days because of your Doodle Bops video and I hate that I love how you've unlocked all the childhood nostalgia I've forgotten about!
Was already going to sub but when u made that 21 chump street reference I had to immediately I’m so glad other ppl remember that atrocity I feel so alienated in my agony at times with the intrusive thoughts of “what tha HECC I gotta doooo to be with u 🥺” “smiley face” my hs theatre teacher chose violence when she made us watch that
I guess he was gonna do that typical trope of "We've waited so long for this moment that now that we're here it feels kind of bitter sweet." Where they make you wait AN ENTIRE SERIES for a couple to get together only for them to say it Just doesn't "feel right" with no real explanation other than they didn't want the ending the audience was expecting
i remember this show and do not remember watching it at all but everything that comes out of your mouth takes me back and i’m like “oh yeah i remember that!” tbh i was probably stoned the whole time.
Lauren's arc was such an eye-opener to me man. I had no idea it was possibly to be born intersex before but it has stuck with me ever since Faking It had it's questionable moments for sure, but Lauren's journey broadened my perspective much like DTNG's Adam Torres did Sidenote: Reagan is so fine, I am so bi! 😚
23:35 Yeah, that is just disgusting and I say that as someone who's parents have an age gap. The thing is they started dating when they were already adults. It's a child with an adult. It's never going to be ok. PS love your videos!
DISCOOOOORD IM HOWLING AT THE MOON discord.gg/9kRMpXBnNK
I been wondering when u we’re gonna make a discord
LETMEINLETMEINLETMEIN!!!!
AND SLEEPING IN THE MIDDLE OF A SUMMER AFTERNOON
@@XENOWOLFIDISCORD WHATEVER DID WE DO
TO MAKE YOU TAKE OUR WORLD AWAAAAAYYYYYY
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Shane: "Guys can't be bi"
Me, a bi guy: 👁️👄👁️
You have dissapeared.
@@freakytostadacartoon oh no
@@leafeon8956 me pops out wearing a Kool - Aid costume - screams O YEAH
and are the "bi guys" here in the room with us right now?🤨wait, what do you mean you've been sitting here the whole tim-
I'm sorry, you lost your sexuality privileges. Our lord and saviour Shane demands it.
I’m glad somebody is talking about this show, I binged it one week when I was a teen and never watched it again lmao
LMAOOOOOOO me too 😂
Lol same, I forgot I was a Karmy shipper for a week or two until I saw this video
Me too😂😂😂
i binged it when i was 8 and then had to frantically look for a way to delete the watch history on hulu before my mom got home (still came out to her later tho)
OMFG me too 😂 I was a baby lesbian back then and was loosing my mind at the fact that a show like that was on MTV
I will never not refer to that British actor as “The guy who played Mason in Wizards of Waverly place, the pillow lips one.” I don’t think I’ll ever be capable of registering and logging his name into my brain.
THATS WHERE HE’S FROM! I was trying to remember where he looked familiar
@@PinkyR that character had a hold on little me’s heart istg 😭🤚
Aaahhh, i thought he looked familiar...
I also call him Mason still. He was good in that one Avalon High movie too
i forgot his name as soon as she said it but i’ll NEVER forget mason from wizards of waverly place
12:00 "Pretend to be sick to get out of the threesome"
[Forges a doctor's note to get out of my polyamorous sexual encounter]
this isnt queerbaiting this is *QUEER BIG BASS FISHING TOURNAMENT*
i loved this show the intersex storyline was a cute try definitely ahead of its time
I think the “them dating ruined the friendship” thing was just a popular tween/teen tv thing in the 2010s. Girl Meets World, Austin and Ally, and the Vampire Diaries all tried to play with this trope too. Makes a good excuse for a multi-season on again off again relationship, or a reason for a show to refuse to experiment with a pairing at all. Still doesn’t make any sense as a trope though
I stopped watching Austin and Ally after they got together. Trish and Dez should have been the main couple.
as bad as this show (esp about sexuality), it was also my first time hearing about intersex people, which made me google it to find out if it was even real and to this day i remember reading that its approx. 1% of the population, which is a huge number! made it even weirder that noone was talking about it. i even watched a short documentary after that so ironically i was left a little less ignorant after watching an (at times) ignorant show lol
Absolutely love this and I think that this could be turned into a series parallel to the Lore Video
You can call it Camp or Cringe (or Both)
OoooOoO!!!! Wait I love that
@@AthenaPOfficial
You're on the road to being a game show host! :3
Lol camp cringe
Cringe camp
@@AthenaPOfficial I love queer media analysis!!!
Athena is such an amazing ally!! So supportive!! Totally not Bi though, oh no just an amazing and supportive queen 😇
You obviously have left an impact on me because When you said that you hate when a show says that they're really good but they suck at singing, all I could think about was Violet from WordGirl
glad i wasn't the only one lol 😂
I used to watch faking it at least once a year; the drama, cringe, and characters were peak guilty pleasure.
Side note: Felix was my absolute favorite character, as I remember it he was the most grounded character out of the whole cast.
Yes!! I fucking loved the cringe and drama. Guilty pleasure material 1000%
I actually put out my hand to hold Athena's. It was very calming, thank you
Edit: Wow it's gotten 251 likes. Thanks guys!
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I’m personally offended this show didn’t feature Mason Wizards of Waverly Place kissing boys but instead featured Mason Wizards of Waverly Place as a chaser
as absolutely horrible as Karma was, she unfortunately looks like one of the Types of girl i inevitably always develop crushes on
also, as the kind of person whose toxic trait is falling in love with their friends🤠, this is the terrible representation i deserve!
Amy core
@@jocelynsandoval9385 unfortunately I am a bit Amy coded
@@kkuudandere you poor, damned soul... I wish you have better luck in your taste in women o7
@@jocelynsandoval9385 thank u comrade o7
yes.
As a young teen I was SO about this show but Karma made me SO angry. We had so few options in those days, I was eating the scraps up
I’m still convinced Karma is on the queer spectrum (probably bi with a lean to guys) but refuses to admit it, I mean why else would she WANT to keep kissing Amy?
Never watched Faking It but I immediately recognized Gregg Sulkin only because he was Mason in Wizards of Waverly Place.
Ikr?
i was so pissed when they had amy sleep with liam. Up until that point the show had heavily implied she was a lesbian. They really decided to go with the 'lesbians will sleep with guys' route. obviously i had to hate-watch it for the train wreck it was. but they could not come up with a more unsatisfying ending. they know their audience was rooting for karma/amy as that was the crux of the show and then they just find replacement karma to put amy in a relationship with because i guess making karma bi was too much??? even though that's what they were building up to?
I’m still convinced Karma is on the queer spectrum (probably bi with a lean to guys) but refuses to admit it, I mean why else would she WANT to keep kissing Amy?
I watched this as a kid, and even back then the show made me really uncomfortable with the way they treated bisexuality, and all the adults dating teenagers, still, I couldn't stop watching, the drama really kept me interested, and I liked seeing gay people like me for a chance, thanks for the video.
Athena is a walking bi flag and i am here for it
Dude, this show was buck wild and I remember I only watched it cause it felt like the movie GBF as a TV show
There is a GBF show
I remember initially tuning in to Faking It to hate watch, thinking "fake gay? let's tear it apart." I was probably around 15 and shocked that I really connected with Amy as a character, and that it was really some of the first unfiltered represention I'd seen in teen dramas. There were occasionally queer characters on other shows, but not multiple, and everyone with unique attractions, where it was okay to be in the grey or without a label.
Don't get me wrong, it was also *extremely* problematic, but they did try to do something I didn't feel like anyone else was doing: give queer and questioning kids some messy drama storylines like all the mostly-straight shows got. It was a serious guilty pleasure for teenage me
32:53
I agree, I’ve started referring to these shows and movies as “brain junk food” it’s good, they’re fun to watch, but I’m gonna acknowledge that IRL I don’t want these type of relationships and that they’re unhealthy
You just triggered my memory of this show and I would rather forget💀
"Vagatarian" is the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.
It is so comforting to know you were going through your sexual identity crisis at the exact time as me. Because Faking It was one of my defining moments as well. Although the real realization came while watching Scream: The Tv Series. I will not be elaborating. If you know anything about that show, you can put the pieces together. 🙃
Ok but SAME with me for MTV Scream, was literally just thinking about that during this video. You are so incredibly valid
girl you are me!! I was so obsessed with this show and with scream mtv and little queer me was just trying to put all the pieces together back then lol
this is actually one of very few youtube channels that makes me feel like i have a busted lung after any video. i’m not sure if i just have a jank sense of humor but the organized chaos that emanates from these videos rattles my brain in a good way. thanks Athena for making me laugh until my chest hurts
omg thank you so so much!!! I'm so glad I can make you laugh!! 🥲🥲
Athena, thank you so much for being such a great ally
I remember wanting to get into this show cause I kept seeing gifs of Shane and the mma guy all over tumblr and I thought it was really cute, but I couldn’t get through the first few episodes so I dropped it lol
Thanks for the video! It’s nice to learn about what this show was about after all these years 😊
32:06
I agree with that! My partner and I were friends for years, and we ended up becoming a couple (going on 2 years strong after being friends since 4th grade). I kept hearing things like "Dating your friends only makes drama!" and "You're going to drive a wedge between you two and your other friends!" (we had another strong mutual friend at the time), but I find that it just takes communication and healthy boundaries. We still go out to tea places and hang out and make crafts just like we used to when we were just friends, but now there are sleepy cuddles involved as well :]
That's so sweet I'm kinda jealous
you think the writers of this show thought what some of the characters said would be celebratory? 😀
I'm not a fan of drama shows, but I like hearing other people breaking them down.
This show awoke so much in me as a kid. I related to everything you said lmao. Don't even get me started on awkward, finding carter, and teen wolf lol
When you mentioned that Karma is actually a good singer, I thought I should mention that I vividly remember Katie Stevens being my favorite on American Idol when I was 8, a completely normal obsession for a straight young girl to have.
😂😂
I watched this show shortly before having my own sexuality crisis, so this hits DEEP for me.
i was truly gagged and speechless when you said "can you believe this all happened in 20 minutes" I THOUGHT YOU WERE SPEED RUNNING THE SEASON WHAT IS THIS SHOW
The number of gif-sets i reblogged of them kissing was unreal 😂
Bro, this was one of the shows middle school me was watching late at night on MTV (or when nickelodeon switched to nick at night). I recently rewatched Faking it, and omg, "progressive and problematic" is kind of the best way to describe this show.
I’m a lesbian and my friends do call me the most lesbian lesbian to ever lesbian
Athena‘s been pumping out banger after banger lately; this was such a good video.
Athena: "and Amy drops the L word"
Me: "the L word? Lesbian"
Amy: "I love you"
Me to myself: "come on man! You read the _Scott Pilgrim_ comics, you should know that the L Word is 'love' not 'lesbian'! ... whait, did Scott got confussed because he associated the expression 'the L word' with the CW's queer tv show _The L Word?_ ... this somehow makes me feel even more stupid"
Same.
I am so happy that you share the karma hate, rip to my coworker that got me into this show and had to listen to me talk about rewriting it.
I've been waiting for someone to talk about this show!! I remember loving it (and still do) yeah it's not the best show but it was my gay awakening and will always have me in a choke hold along with awkward
Queer people deserve to have mediocre Shows just as much as CisHet people do! I remember Tumblr having back-and-forths over if this Show deserved to be ‘cancelled’ or not but like.. not all Queer Media has to be perfection! We should celebrate that a trainwreck like this got so many Seasons and put new Queer storylines out into culture for better Shows and Movies to pick up and do better.
@@ZxykaryExactly. Part of being accepted as a regular person is seeing all aspects of a personality including the toxic ones. Shows with flawed cis het white male characters win Emmys. We need more examples of not perfect LGBTQ+, non-white and female characters so it can actually become normalized.
You just showing that little thumbnail of "Awkward" brought back so many memories 🤣 I used to get so much crap for my friends for watching it because toxic masculinity lol
Omg I remember faking it! Karma wasn’t the best friend to Amy. Amy was a hopeless romantic, Liam got with karma and amy (yet nobody talks about that!) and shane was never funny. Also karma trying to be popular is overrated like girl it won’t matter.
First video of yours that I didn't see the show, I stayed far away from MTV tbh lol. Feels like a show that I would be cussing out some people, can't stand school settings like this. But it's better when you're explaining it.
SLAY ATHENAAAAA good god u just KEEP MAKING BANGERSSSS the nostalgia yet analyzation is just so peak keep slaying mama
*I did not willingly remember this show*
Me every time i visit this -cursed- amazing channel
Anthena P, you should do electric company that aired on pbs kids because of the the show having musical esc songs and I feal like it would let our your thresher kid energy. ;)
First off; who, in this entire planet, names their child “Karma”????🤔🤨
That just doesn’t seem right
Her parents were also hippies also I respect that they tried something unique
one of my bffs named her daughter karma lol
@@kendelkx WOAH!!😲😵
2:07 god I forgot that the term karma's a bitch had meaning pre Jojo Siwa rebrand. I mean It still has the same meaning, just a different weight.
honestly this commentary video one of your best
and i loved your hand hold moment help me through the awkward
i think it'd be fun to see some octonauts, the loud house, or arthur lore :)
i binged this show when i was 13 because i though it was a fake dating x childhood friends to lovers x sexuality awakening story... i was Not Prepared for whatever this show was 😭
seeing images/clips made me remember this show. This show taught me about intersex people. You should for sure cover Awkward!!
honestly, as someone going to a similarly "progressive" school, this doesn't seem that far off.
(except for dating adults! most students are so opposed to age gaps that people are outcasted for dating a grade below themselves)
Can't believe no one remembers that the Shane/trans guy character (Elliot Fletcher) relationship involved in the second to last ep Shane running around asking everyone if it's okay if he's always liked "candy cane" but now he likes "peppermint bark". Forever imprinted in my poor little trans brain lmao.
my favourite part of the video is when you said you'd hold the viewer's hand and actually followed through and kept it there. it made me feel safe. or maybe i'm touch starved.
I will admit, I reflexively reached my hand out when Athen offered hers to the camera and I feel a bit silly 😭
This is so silly :]
@@Gravel_TheCart We stan people being a bit silly :)
Athena: *pulls hand away*
My autistic ass: Wait come back plz wait 😣
My high school was the gay school in my town and it was way more accepting than theirs
I'm two minutes in and YOU KNOW ABOUT DISABILITY PRIDE MONTH?! I am ugly crying I've never felt so seen! 😭😭😭😭
The Karmie ship that you talk about at the end reminds me of the reasons for Catadora NOT to be end game couple.
Please do a She-ra and the Princesses of Power lore.
I'm desperate for more Athena P videos so watching this video really did quench my thirst for more videos from Athena
Thank you.
This video is a masterpiece. My favorite line was “you’re g - g-g-gay all d-d-d-day”
Watching this the night before attending my first Pride Parade is gonna make me so powerful
I hope you had a nice and powerful time!
I had forgotten this was before the butt auctioning and I was like “oh damn when she’d get a new one so fast?”
I wish I found ur channel sooner, this is awesome! It's just boatloads of nostalgia
"Two people in love with the same person, hurt by the same person, do it. Does it make sense?"
Well, teenagers don't make sense. Because something similar-ish happened to me. And i still think what they did remarkably stupid.
*Flashback 10th or 11th grade*
I was asked to prom by a guy "as friends". I said sure. We were in some clubs together and in one act plays (as lights/sound/stagehands) so i'd say we were decently close. He made the gods-awful decision to tell me he likes me at 6am at the start of a 2 hour busride to a one act performance. I told him i didn't feel the same, but that i wasn't going to not go to prom with him as friends for his asking. Cut to prom. Another friend of mine comes up to me and is all upset that she told a guy she liked him and he...said he liked me (bear in mind i'd spoken to this person maybe twice).
By the end of the night, when the guy who liked me and the girl who got rejected by a guy who liked me had comforted each others' broken hearts...they started dating. That night. It did not go well and he apparently kept pressuring her into sex and she would come to me upset but then call him to join us while we were hanging out. In the end i had to drop them both completely out of my life
Compared to my telling a guy i liked him: i said i had to tell him so i'd feel better but i knew he was gay and obviously would not feel the same. We stayed friends and even when we haven't seen each other for nearly a decade, we got along very well when we did meet up.
I'm so glad someone made a video about this show because let me tell you, me and my friends were obsessed with this in high school because I'm a gay man who had two girlfriends and they were starting to have feelings for each other and then they kissed and the other kissed a boy... it was like we were living in our very own teen drama and then this show happened at the same time ☺idc if it is bad, I have a lot of great memories watching it and shipping Karma with Amy and loving Shane. 💙
I was just talking about 'Faking It' with my mom the other day. I remember it so well because I was obsessed with it since it came out when I had realized I was LGBTQ. It was the only show I have ever watched every episode of as they were aired on TV because I was that obsessed.
I have never heard of this show, but holy carp have you peaked my interest
Also love your "ally" look
Horrifying to hear this show exists! It feels like the writers were trying to dance in a minefield for views but they triggered multiple mines and then kept dancing with missing limbs. I understand why young people questioning their sexuality would be fascinated because if my parents didn't keep the TV permanently on fox news I probably would have been obsessed too.
I feel like I occasionally saw gifsets of this show but I never actually watched it. Am also bi so loved the bi makeup! Yay for bi (and intersex!) representation in media, but boooo for blatant biphobia (not to mention all of the other problematic aspects you touched on). I know Gregg Sulkin from Wizards of Waverly Place (and also Pass the Plate lmao), but was the actor who played Shane the main guy in GBF?? If so, him being the character that outs so many people becomes much more layered lol. (And if it’s not him then whoops disregard this point). I enjoy your commentary just as much as your lore! Even if I don’t have firsthand experience with the subject. Also would love to hear your take on Awkward. because that show had a hold on me back in the day!
I love how you actually kept your hand out for us to "hold hands"
Just started the video but I love today's makeup
Yoooo I LOVE your makeup. Amazing video as always!
I USED TO LOVE THIS SHOW AND WOULD LITERALLY WATCH IT EVERY TUESDAY WHEN IT AIRED. I totally forgot about this show and am slapping my forehead because of it. This was such an Era with The Inbetweeners, Skins, and does anybody remember that show about Hunter? Dammit I've been watching your channel for a few days because of your Doodle Bops video and I hate that I love how you've unlocked all the childhood nostalgia I've forgotten about!
I would love to see Athena's take on She-Ra and the Princesses of Power.
this!!
I liked holding hands, i wish more youtubers did that 😃
Was already going to sub but when u made that 21 chump street reference I had to immediately I’m so glad other ppl remember that atrocity I feel so alienated in my agony at times with the intrusive thoughts of “what tha HECC I gotta doooo to be with u 🥺” “smiley face” my hs theatre teacher chose violence when she made us watch that
This sounds like a show I would read the entire Wikipedia page of instead of watching
Thank you for the recap so i don't have to do that
5:16 Athena, we were holding hands 😔 you cant just leave me like that
5:43 I didnt want to edit or comment twice, but I love this
I guess he was gonna do that typical trope of "We've waited so long for this moment that now that we're here it feels kind of bitter sweet." Where they make you wait AN ENTIRE SERIES for a couple to get together only for them to say it Just doesn't "feel right" with no real explanation other than they didn't want the ending the audience was expecting
I like the target bi shirt
Back when they didn’t back out 😤
I'm going to be honest I have never heard of before but this lore it might matpat ( game theory ) very proud of you
i remember this show and do not remember watching it at all but everything that comes out of your mouth takes me back and i’m like “oh yeah i remember that!”
tbh i was probably stoned the whole time.
I think you're officially my comfort channel. Love you Athena
OMG THANK I THOUGHT I WAS GOING CRAZY CAUSE NO ONE AROUND ME REMEMBERED THISSS THAT SHOW IS WILDDDD😭😭😭😭
Lauren's arc was such an eye-opener to me man. I had no idea it was possibly to be born intersex before but it has stuck with me ever since
Faking It had it's questionable moments for sure, but Lauren's journey broadened my perspective much like DTNG's Adam Torres did
Sidenote: Reagan is so fine, I am so bi! 😚
I hate how this was like the only lesbian representation I had airing on tv as a teenager. We deserved so much better.
23:35 Yeah, that is just disgusting and I say that as someone who's parents have an age gap. The thing is they started dating when they were already adults. It's a child with an adult. It's never going to be ok. PS love your videos!
found this on hulu when i was like 13 and never thought about it again until YOU brought it up 😭
I always know it’s a Saturday when Athena p posts. 😊
For the EpiPen thing ,i give mine to who i trust most so i can see why the pain is there
Congrats on the bisexual lighting :)👍
I literally never seen the show a day in my life and I was super invested in this video. Love every video you make, please make more. ❤
this has been the best way to satisfy my curiosity about a show i only ever saw ads for
12:47
Ben: "Y'know, Athena P is stinky and smelly. But you gotta admit, she makes good RUclips videos"
I’ve never head of this show but as somebody who lives in Austin I always get giddy when a show takes place in my home