Imagine going for the easy meal - no armor, no horns, no clubbed tail, half your height - but as you're about to take a bite it stands up and shanks you with its thumbs
Man I LOVE this channel! really enjoying these essays leading up to Prehistoric Planet next month. It really is hard to find straightforward profiles on specific dinosaurs like this these days.
Nicely done, it's great to see all the work and research you put into these! Looking forward to ceolophysis! I remember seeing illustrations of a lone iguanodon having to deal with a mob of eight or nine deinonychus in an old magazine, I guess there's no shortage of time traveling dinosaurs in the older stuff. If it was Dakotadon or I. Bernissartensis would they have ever encountered deinonychus?
Iguanodon or the dubious Dakotadon would have met many dromeosaurids, but not Deinonychus specifically. They lived at different times. Although Iguanodon is often paired with Deinonychus to prey on in pictures and dioramas, Deinonychus killed and ate another ornithopod Tenontosaurus. Deinonychus is frequently found with Tenontosaurus, and likely killed and ate them. I have a video on Deinonychus where I go into this in more detail. It also explains why I think that dromeosaurines, like Ornithodesmus, would have ganged up on Iguanodontids, and velociraptorines would have hunted individually.
Yay, this video was great and I love the intro! Owen was a piece of work! You're my favorite dinosaur channel next to ydaw, always excited to see you post! Great scripting and pacing. You're a natural!
I was just rewatching a few of your videos the other night and was hoping that you were still posting on this channel. Woke up this morning to a new video from you and I couldn’t be happier. Thank you and keep up the good work! I’m sure it isn’t easy making these in-depth videos
I was wondering if you ever thought about adding some really soft classical music in the background or something that's centuries old and can't be copyrighted. Your videos are perfect enough to warrant such beautiful music. I think it would definitely add to the quality, but if you ever decide to do it, just be careful not to let the music completely overtake the narration in terms of volume.
It is something that I have considered, but decided against. My videos are a mix between essay and lecture. Background music does not really fit with those styles. Also setting a mood for my more light-hearted comments and for my description of Mantell's fate would be tricky.
Iguanodon has always been my favorite herbivore I never thought I'd see the day where someone talked about it in a way that I can understand. Keep up the good work.
All those names, Waterhouse Hawkins,Mantell,the Crystal Palace..stir up a sweet nostalgia of when I was a kid and grabbed everything I could in the library about our beloved Dinosauria.
Thank God Mantell gave Iguanodon such an awesome name with some Greek origin to set the precedent. Nowadays Dinosaurs have such amazing names that roll off the tounge with badass flair.
Buckland actually named the first dinosaur Megalosaurus, using the Linaean system which generally uses Latin and/or Greek. The first scientific name given to a dinosaur bone was Scrotum humanum if you want to look up that story.
Helo. Nee subscriber here! Thank you for this very informative vedios. I recently started collecting dinos figure for display but I want it as accurate as possible base on the studies. Your uploads are very helpful to me. Hope you do more Vids of the other dinos species. Thank you.
Great video as always. Don't take this the wrong way, I love your channel and always look forwards to a new video, and really appreciate the amount of research that goes into these videos, but there always seems to be something i have to disagree with. I do not like the iguanadon vs sauropod idea. At least when it comes to the idea of the growing rarity of sauropods in the northern hemisphere due to competition etc with iguanadontids. The Wealden was home to large and robust iguanadons and also has evidence for rebbahisaurids and remains of titanosaurs. Sauropod fossils from north America(pre Cenomanian-Turoian extinction and Alamosaurus (latest Maastrichtian)Asia, including the late Maastrichtian China and Albian/Aptian of Thailand etc and even Europe Maastrichtian Hateg island(where they lived side by side with the pygy hadrosaurids, and both seemed relatively 'to scale' so to speak) suggests that sauropods were doing completely fine in the Northern hemisphere. I'd also hasten to point out that in none of the trackways of Aptian Victoria(dinosaur cove) do we find sauropod footprints, and there has been no bones recovered there yet either(a place that was by all accounts, was very close to the south pole, during a time when (judging by isotope analysis)marine reptiles were hunting under ice for part of the year) nor from any paleogeographically high latitudes yet. So i personally agree with the idea that sauropods are essentially religated to warmer climates. Cheers for the video. Thanks for coverimg a jur... Cretaceous classic.
Sauropods did certainly do well in some parts of the world in the Cretaceous, particularly places like South America, but their populations were declining since the Jurassic in the northern hemisphere and be absent by the latest Cretaceous. I did not mean to imply that ornithopods were pushing sauropods out, but that the fast changing climate (not just low temperatures) was a driving force behind their decline that ornithopods could weather (pardon the pun). These things are always debatable, but this is where the consensus seems to be going unless something else turns up. Always like seeing you here, by the way.
@@palaeo_channel This is what I'm saying, in the late Maastrichtian, right up to the KPG boundry we have Alamosaurus, a large bodied titanosaur in North America, in the lance formation and in Texas, living alongside quetzalcoatlas, saurolophus, parasaurolophus, trike(which was rarer than in hell creek), torosaurus and Trex. Look up Lancian fauna and Edmontian fauna in Maastrichtian North America. There is also Nemgetsaurus(and another species) from mongloglia and Magyarsaurus,(and a 2nd species of island pygmy) from Hateg Island(part of modern day Hungry and Czech Republic)hailing from the late Maastrichtian era the last stage of the Cretaceous. What is interesting about all these instances is that these formations represent much more arid and open enviroments than say, Hell creek. It makes sense to me, if i was a 20m long titanosaur i would feel pretty vulnerable when weaving my way between trees in a foreated area with my head in the lower branches. Mexico is filled with fossil bearing rock and would provide interesting insights into the more southern North American fauna, but with the drug cartels its hardly the safest place to dig. Glad to hear I'm not just that guy who's like 'Well Actshally...' Cheers.
@@TomiTapio - Thank you! So few understand, even those who should. No one would call a bird a reptile, yet will happily conflate dinosaurs with reptilians. 🙄
I have seen the bernissartensis fossils many many times by now cause I'm from Belgium so I'm proud of the fact that we have dinosaurs in Belgium and iguanodon is one of my personal favorite dinosaurs ever
Why was it such a big deal to find an herbivore reptile? They're reare, but between the tortoises, the iguanas and some lizards, it's still a thing today ^^'
I cannot be sure, but herbivorous lizards with teeth were still fairly new to European science, with tortoises using beaks. They had an iguana in the RCOS collection, but I think Cuvier was enamoured with the idea of a huge reptile that was herbivorous.
I'm not saying anything here about iguanadon thumbs, just that the first coconuts were supposed to have evolved 85 million years ago, leading to a 20 million year overlap.
Not sure what your point is, but Iguanodon disappeared 122 million years ago. My research also indicates that while palm trees evolved around 80 mya, coconuts only appeard after the K-Pg mass extinction event 66 mya.
Would love to discuss dinosaurs, but I don’t have a discord server. I have a full time job with irregular hours, so I can’t keep up a reliable social media presence. Thanks for the offer to join your server though.
Well roosters have spurs to fight each other with, never stopped the bastards trying to use them on me. Even if iguanadon used them primarily for interspecific combat I'd imagine neovenator salerii was in the same boat as i am.
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please, make a dinosaur profile about gallimimus or other ornithomimid :)
Hippodraco is fairly incomplete and thought to be a juvenile, so I do not think I could do a whole video on it. Hippodraco is quite an unusual choice. What is your interest in this dinosaur?
That sounds really interesting. A fully grown Hippodraco was probably larger than the estimated 4.5m (15ft) of the individual found, but it is unknown how big.
Thanks for the correction. I think I mistook the identification with the mummy called 'Duckbill'. I really appreciate you guys being so on the ball, and will be putting a correction at the end of the Coelophysis video when it is done.
You can't avoid falling in love with Iguanodons once you see those majestic, beautiful, huge fossils in Brussels.
how many species of iganodon exist?
19th and early 20th century scientists:yes
Imagine going for the easy meal - no armor, no horns, no clubbed tail, half your height - but as you're about to take a bite it stands up and shanks you with its thumbs
Iguanodon is such a cool animal. Also i got a kick out of seeing many clips from the TV documentary i had recorded on VHS from when i was a kid.
Man I LOVE this channel! really enjoying these essays leading up to Prehistoric Planet next month. It really is hard to find straightforward profiles on specific dinosaurs like this these days.
Me too, I really love the work put into his videos.
Nicely done, it's great to see all the work and research you put into these! Looking forward to ceolophysis! I remember seeing illustrations of a lone iguanodon having to deal with a mob of eight or nine deinonychus in an old magazine, I guess there's no shortage of time traveling dinosaurs in the older stuff. If it was Dakotadon or I. Bernissartensis would they have ever encountered deinonychus?
Iguanodon or the dubious Dakotadon would have met many dromeosaurids, but not Deinonychus specifically. They lived at different times.
Although Iguanodon is often paired with Deinonychus to prey on in pictures and dioramas, Deinonychus killed and ate another ornithopod Tenontosaurus. Deinonychus is frequently found with Tenontosaurus, and likely killed and ate them.
I have a video on Deinonychus where I go into this in more detail. It also explains why I think that dromeosaurines, like Ornithodesmus, would have ganged up on Iguanodontids, and velociraptorines would have hunted individually.
Yay, this video was great and I love the intro! Owen was a piece of work! You're my favorite dinosaur channel next to ydaw, always excited to see you post! Great scripting and pacing. You're a natural!
I was just rewatching a few of your videos the other night and was hoping that you were still posting on this channel. Woke up this morning to a new video from you and I couldn’t be happier. Thank you and keep up the good work! I’m sure it isn’t easy making these in-depth videos
Thank you very much for providing this thorough presentation on Iguanodon - made my evening!
I was wondering if you ever thought about adding some really soft classical music in the background or something that's centuries old and can't be copyrighted. Your videos are perfect enough to warrant such beautiful music. I think it would definitely add to the quality, but if you ever decide to do it, just be careful not to let the music completely overtake the narration in terms of volume.
It is something that I have considered, but decided against. My videos are a mix between essay and lecture. Background music does not really fit with those styles.
Also setting a mood for my more light-hearted comments and for my description of Mantell's fate would be tricky.
Iguanodon has always been my favorite herbivore I never thought I'd see the day where someone talked about it in a way that I can understand. Keep up the good work.
All those names, Waterhouse Hawkins,Mantell,the Crystal Palace..stir up a sweet nostalgia of when I was a kid and grabbed everything I could in the library about our beloved Dinosauria.
It amazes me how more than half of this video is just the history of discovery and naming
Thank God Mantell gave Iguanodon such an awesome name with some Greek origin to set the precedent. Nowadays Dinosaurs have such amazing names that roll off the tounge with badass flair.
Buckland actually named the first dinosaur Megalosaurus, using the Linaean system which generally uses Latin and/or Greek. The first scientific name given to a dinosaur bone was Scrotum humanum if you want to look up that story.
That raptor about the size of Utah raptor makes walking with dinosaurs a bit accurate
You can also see how accurate the hunting in that episode is by watching my video on Deinonychus.
Ranks repeat viewing. Many thanks!
finally, I was waiting for you to upload a new video
Thanks for talking about my people, as an Iguanodon I can confirm we are the best.
Imagine the look on the face of Creationists when they hear of the Darwinsaurus Evolutionis
Helo. Nee subscriber here!
Thank you for this very informative vedios. I recently started collecting dinos figure for display but I want it as accurate as possible base on the studies. Your uploads are very helpful to me. Hope you do more Vids of the other dinos species.
Thank you.
Correction: The Dino mummy "Leonardo" is actually a Brachylophosaurus not an Edmontosaurus.
Well spotted. I do issue a correction after the credits in my next video.
Argh, the audio clipping(microphone overdrive distorted). Could one run a processing algorithm on the audio and then reupload?
Thank you for this impressive class!
Can I request for the profile of Lambeosaurus? Thank you.
Great video as always. Don't take this the wrong way, I love your channel and always look forwards to a new video, and really appreciate the amount of research that goes into these videos, but there always seems to be something i have to disagree with. I do not like the iguanadon vs sauropod idea. At least when it comes to the idea of the growing rarity of sauropods in the northern hemisphere due to competition etc with iguanadontids. The Wealden was home to large and robust iguanadons and also has evidence for rebbahisaurids and remains of titanosaurs. Sauropod fossils from north America(pre Cenomanian-Turoian extinction and Alamosaurus (latest Maastrichtian)Asia, including the late Maastrichtian China and Albian/Aptian of Thailand etc and even Europe Maastrichtian Hateg island(where they lived side by side with the pygy hadrosaurids, and both seemed relatively 'to scale' so to speak) suggests that sauropods were doing completely fine in the Northern hemisphere. I'd also hasten to point out that in none of the trackways of Aptian Victoria(dinosaur cove) do we find sauropod footprints, and there has been no bones recovered there yet either(a place that was by all accounts, was very close to the south pole, during a time when (judging by isotope analysis)marine reptiles were hunting under ice for part of the year) nor from any paleogeographically high latitudes yet. So i personally agree with the idea that sauropods are essentially religated to warmer climates. Cheers for the video. Thanks for coverimg a jur... Cretaceous classic.
Sauropods did certainly do well in some parts of the world in the Cretaceous, particularly places like South America, but their populations were declining since the Jurassic in the northern hemisphere and be absent by the latest Cretaceous.
I did not mean to imply that ornithopods were pushing sauropods out, but that the fast changing climate (not just low temperatures) was a driving force behind their decline that ornithopods could weather (pardon the pun).
These things are always debatable, but this is where the consensus seems to be going unless something else turns up.
Always like seeing you here, by the way.
@@palaeo_channel This is what I'm saying, in the late Maastrichtian, right up to the KPG boundry we have Alamosaurus, a large bodied titanosaur in North America, in the lance formation and in Texas, living alongside quetzalcoatlas, saurolophus, parasaurolophus, trike(which was rarer than in hell creek), torosaurus and Trex. Look up Lancian fauna and Edmontian fauna in Maastrichtian North America. There is also Nemgetsaurus(and another species) from mongloglia and Magyarsaurus,(and a 2nd species of island pygmy) from Hateg Island(part of modern day Hungry and Czech Republic)hailing from the late Maastrichtian era the last stage of the Cretaceous. What is interesting about all these instances is that these formations represent much more arid and open enviroments than say, Hell creek. It makes sense to me, if i was a 20m long titanosaur i would feel pretty vulnerable when weaving my way between trees in a foreated area with my head in the lower branches. Mexico is filled with fossil bearing rock and would provide interesting insights into the more southern North American fauna, but with the drug cartels its hardly the safest place to dig. Glad to hear I'm not just that guy who's like 'Well Actshally...' Cheers.
"Herbivorous reptile" was unfortunate. Dinosaurs are quite different from reptiles.
Reptile : legs to sides. Dino : legs under torso, skull stuff, feathers.
@@TomiTapio - Thank you! So few understand, even those who should.
No one would call a bird a reptile, yet will happily conflate dinosaurs with reptilians. 🙄
These are great videos. Thank you.
I love the history
awesome video
Liked!
Thanks and greetings bibia.
That Owen character was such a cartoonishly evil character.
Nice
46:39. Shanking people in prison
Jeez did Owen marry Mantell's wife after he died too. Such a very depressing end to a promising life.
I have seen the bernissartensis fossils many many times by now cause I'm from Belgium so I'm proud of the fact that we have dinosaurs in Belgium and iguanodon is one of my personal favorite dinosaurs ever
Why was it such a big deal to find an herbivore reptile? They're reare, but between the tortoises, the iguanas and some lizards, it's still a thing today ^^'
I cannot be sure, but herbivorous lizards with teeth were still fairly new to European science, with tortoises using beaks. They had an iguana in the RCOS collection, but I think Cuvier was enamoured with the idea of a huge reptile that was herbivorous.
Incredible content. Leaving a comment to help with the algorythm.
I'm not saying anything here about iguanadon thumbs, just that the first coconuts were supposed to have evolved 85 million years ago, leading to a 20 million year overlap.
Not sure what your point is, but Iguanodon disappeared 122 million years ago. My research also indicates that while palm trees evolved around 80 mya, coconuts only appeard after the K-Pg mass extinction event 66 mya.
Great video mate! Very informative.
Do you have a discord server I would absolutely love to discuss dinosaurs with you. On the same hand ur welcome to join my isle server if you'd like
Would love to discuss dinosaurs, but I don’t have a discord server. I have a full time job with irregular hours, so I can’t keep up a reliable social media presence.
Thanks for the offer to join your server though.
I can't believe this video only has 1k views.
It's the RUclips Algo. it only popped up in my feed today. Glad it did.
Well roosters have spurs to fight each other with, never stopped the bastards trying to use them on me.
Even if iguanadon used them primarily for interspecific combat I'd imagine neovenator salerii was in the same boat as i am.
please, make a dinosaur profile about gallimimus or other ornithomimid
:)
Have you ever considered doing a video on Hippodraco?
Hippodraco is fairly incomplete and thought to be a juvenile, so I do not think I could do a whole video on it.
Hippodraco is quite an unusual choice. What is your interest in this dinosaur?
@@palaeo_channel I'm writing a Dinosaur Western and I'm using Hippodraco as mounts instead of horses.
That sounds really interesting. A fully grown Hippodraco was probably larger than the estimated 4.5m (15ft) of the individual found, but it is unknown how big.
omg
The “Leonardo” specimen is Brachylophosaurus
Thanks for the correction. I think I mistook the identification with the mummy called 'Duckbill'.
I really appreciate you guys being so on the ball, and will be putting a correction at the end of the Coelophysis video when it is done.
I am officially addicted
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