Rigging Backplate Harness Part 2 - Final Fitting on Diver
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Rigging Backplate Harness Webbing Part 2 - Final Fitting on Diver
Final fitting of one-piece webbing harness on Backplate (and wing) BC (buoyancy compensator).
We use the rough rig from the Part 1 video to fit to the end user, diver Camila from Brazil. Camila arranged the purchase and fitting of this rig while she was traveling through Japan. Thanks, Camila!
Part 1:
• Rigging Backplate Harn...
Components for this system (which happens to be made by HOG (highly Optimized Gear):
Red AL Plate
23lb singles wing
Red, 2" webbing (15ft)
Weight pockets, XS Scuba (2)
D-Rings (2 bent, 3 regular)
Keepers (serrated and smooth)
Bungee ring or large O-ring as inflator keeper
neoprene sleeves for shoulder/crotch (optional)
Jim
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When Camila mentioned a 60m dive without a tech course I'm pretty sure it was a reference to a military wreck named Corvetta V17 in Fernando de Noronha. One could argue it's the best dive in Brazil and the local dive operators do something like a discovery tech dive.
Nice!
Another awesome video! Can you put a chest strap on that setup?
Kenneth D Sure thing. Have a look at a rig with that strap and copy.
@@DiscoveryDiversTokyo ... You "can" put a chest strap on that set up, but "should" you? (That's rhetorical, by the way :D)
@@sbmillward HI Simon. I've personally never found it neccessary, so never had. I'd guess most BP/W diver do not have. The more minimalist BC-style rigs often have, I see.
So the belt goes across the belly button area?
Well, depends a bit on the height of the person vs the length of the plate, but yes that is a good region. Any higher and there is a danger the belt would interfere with breathing. Thanks for the Q!
Tough job you got there... ;)
Nice to see the final fitting on a person. I’m currently buying all the bits for my own plate and was struggling with the weight pocket question.
I really really would like to have a “tech” pouch on my waist strap for signaling devices, backup mask, trash collection bag stow, etc. so I’ve been questioning if I’ll be able to even afford the space for the weight pockets. It doesn’t look like I will with the DGX one I’m eyeballing. But worst case scenario the pouches go on the tank straps, right?
Actually worst case scenario is I spend $10 and get more D rings or pouches. I feel like I’m doing a good job of staying hogarthian. Just gotta do it, dive a pool and adjust, I guess.
Hi Sous! After trying lots of different setups myself, I'd recommend going to some pocket shorts for SMB/spool and keep weight on your belt in some economical pockets like XS Scuba, which is what I use. Those shorts can be expensive, so some guys I've heard use regular cloth pocket shorts. I might try that to give a test.
I noticed the wing is not being screw unto the plate, in long run the tank band could cut on the wing's sleeve slots. This is what im experiencing with my Hollis setup and I had to put a book screw to avoid the wing moving around.
Ah, yes. In this case, Camilla opted for no STA (@ 8:37). This definitely makes for a lighter setup and tank closer to your back, but as you say, leaves more possibility for movement. This is minimised on the HOG wings with the rods they have inside to hold the tank. Hard to explain. 99% of the rigs I build have screw-on STA as you referred to.
@@DiscoveryDiversTokyo my Hollis has the similar rod as tank stabiliser velcro between the tank band. Due to the wing could move around and getting cut by the tank cam, I customised a webbing with velcro fastener sandwich both wings sleeve and the plate via the plate's tank cam insert. By doing so you don't need the STA.
I hope he bought her dinner first...
We're still in touch on Facebook. She's an epic diver and traveler.
Nice video. Very informative. Just one question ... I would be interested to know your feelings about an aluminium backplate compared to a steel backplate? Obviously a steel backplate is heavier so the diver would require fewer additional weights. Apart from that, would you say there are any other advantages to a steel backplate? Thanks again for the video.
Hi, thanks for the Q. Apart from weight, I can't see any other advantage. Some recent offerings do have some cool anodized colors on the AL. I always go with SS, as I want to avoid the need for a weight belt when I wear a drysuit.
DiscoveryDiversTokyo .... Thanks for your reply. Much appreciated. Since writing, I have actually bought a SS backplate and wing. I like it a lot. BUT ... I feel a little overweighted!! (29/30 degrees water in Taiwan. No thick wetsuits.) So I’ve just bought a cheap aluminium bp. I’ll be trying it out this weekend!
@@sbmillward Thanks for the questions and series of responses. This actually has helped me to decide as I will be mostly diving in tropical water and travelling.
@@AriefLatif ... I'm happy to hear that you found the series of questions and responses helpful. I've been using a BPW system for nearly a year now. I've learned a LOT during this time, especially regarding the initial setting up, weighting and weight distribution, wing types & sizes, etc, so feel free to ask if you have any questions. And of course thanks to Jim for originally posting the video and kick-starting the discussion. :)
@@sbmillward looks like you’re diving conditions are similar to where I was mostly diving. The standard aluminium backplate seems to all be of similar weight and together With the overall BPW set up as is, what kind of weight system have you found to be most suitable? I am considering the Xdeep or Diverite QR weight pocket type but not sure if I should wait until I try the main set up first before ordering those.
this is my asmr
The cat getting in the basket at 2:35 😁😁😁
I never noticed that!
Jim, could you do a series on equipment storage? Seems like such simple thing but for example I can’t find any videos on whether we need to keep backplate bcd assembled or disassambled, should we take out and discharge light batteries before storage and what is a proper way of storing regulators (hung vs laid down) for those of us who do not have the fancy scuba man cave (yet). Thanks again and keep up the great work.
Superb job 👍🏼
Many thanks, sir!
That was great!
Many thanks for the kind words!
Great series on putting together a backplate rig. I am just starting to get interested into this system after years of diving with soft backplate. My question is about the grommets on the wings; do they need to be screwed on to the backplate for this travel wing or for any wing for that matter? Thanks again for such informative and engaging content.
Hi Arief. Thanks for the supportive comment. Means a lot to me. Glad you are getting something out of the series. If you are talking about the grommets in the center line, yes, those get fixed to the plate. However, the other grommets at the bottom of the wing are for water drainage and do not attach to the wing.
@@DiscoveryDiversTokyo Thank you sir, that is very clear. Hope I can visit your shop in Tokyo once this pandemic is over. Stay safe.
@@AriefLatif Fantastic! Are you convenient to Tokyo?
@@DiscoveryDiversTokyo I am actually based in Jakarta, Indonesia, but we are working with a major Japanese EPC contractor based in Yokohama for the next 3 possibly 4 years. So when I do get back there again it'll be easy. Well, let's hope we eventually can travel internationally again.
@@AriefLatif Oh, fantastic. Gosh, you're coming from some amazing scuba! I'd like to get our your way, too! Please do keep in touch when that starts to look real. My email: discoverydiverstokyo@gmail.com
Nice backplate!
Thanks for the comment. Not sure if you're actually talking about the plate or not, but I do like the possibilities of anodized AL. However, especially in the last handful of years as Ive packed on a bit of extra weight, I need extra lead and the heft of a stainless plate. I do see one small maker is offering a nice Brass plate. I might have a look at that. Should have a rustic mariner look to it.
@@DiscoveryDiversTokyo The backplate colour looks very nice, but I guess once it's in your back, nobody will see and it won't show in pictures. There is not much choice in colours in Europe afaik. The webbing also looks good too. In terms of material, nowadays I prefer AL because it helps my trim, but that is very personal. My steel backplate moves my centre of mass too much forward and I tend to go head down. Would you make a video about donning on / off a backplate/wing system underwater or on the water surface ? Many thanks!
jdcbranco True on the lack of visibility while wearing, however, we have a lot of backplate users in our group and it is nice to be able to tell your gear at a glance due to color. I do have some videos up on the remove/replace. Here is a remake I’m about to post live in a week or two. I’ll give you a private preview: ruclips.net/video/Nut5cmWZZfw/видео.html
I think the plate is a little too long for her.
Thanks for the comment. As far as I know, there is no such thing as a widely-available "short" plate. I used this same size plate for my boys since they were 10 years old...
Yuupe, I agree with DrNoraa. Unfortunately, most people are unaware of this. And, here's why:
ruclips.net/video/0aRzWE1UPs8/видео.html
@@Caesar.Aquanaut OK< thanks for the vid. First time I've seen it. None of the suppliers I buy from offer. Perhaps only Halcyon? Anyway, I've encountered no issues.
Great vid and gear hookup on your part! Ummmm she's clueless I'm thinking????😂😂😂😂 6.5 ? Arctic temps in Brazil? St Lawrence river on border with Canada we use 5 mil.up to 7
Most of us in Los Angeles use 7mm. Nothing wrong with 6.5mm.
Ah, to each, his/her own.
What brand?
That set was HOG...