I should have said no to this commission.
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Do you remember those walnut desks I did recently? ( • The UNCOMFORTABLE TRUT... ) Well, there was this little nook in the corner of the podcast studio that was begging for some matching floating shelves. I mean three live edge floating shelves…how much work could it really be? Well, it was going to require some creative fitting, a bit of engineering with some flipping laser beams, custom steel fittings, a whomper of a jig , a bit of downright hackery and, as usual, plenty of feline assistance. But ultimately, these shelves were way more work than I expected, so margins were nil. But my ego wouldn’t let anyone else get the job. I mean, I had to do it. #liveedge #floatingshelves #walnut
I should have said NO to this project.
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I still cant believe we were able to get that middle shelf in all the way haha. Great working with you man!
😂 sometimes the woodworking gods smile down upon us and give us a helping hand
That aluminum spacer and structural screw idea is great. I'm definitely adopting that!
Thanks very much! 🤙🏻
The aluminum bushings/spacers was a stroke of brilliance. Such. Great. Work. ❤
Thank you very much! It seemed to do the trick!
That dust collection port is one of the reasons I went with Festool for my new router. It's crazy how well they do dust collection on all of their tools.
It really is! It always amazes me.
The set screw idea from the underside is a really smart idea
Thanks very much!
Those look beautiful. And ... I love the purple - my favorite color. Also, love that Jerry is such a great shop supervisor.
Thanks very much, Laura! The purple definitely complements the walnut quite nicely. And I think Jerry is just a spy...😹
Live edge walnut, cats, metal working, and a Katz Moses tee shirt..I’m not sure it can get any better. Maybe have 2112 playing in the background? Nice work👍
😂 Maybe next time. Thanks man!
When it comes to my Wife’s family, I always say Houghton+1; where Houghton is their surname and plus one, because whatever time they say it’ll take, I always add either one hour or one day on top of it. Perhaps it’s time to be kind to yourself, Keith, and think about Johnson+1; so you know that whatever time you give yourself, you always add more on so you’re prepared, because, bloody hell do you choose the awkward jobs! 😂
As a side note, it looks awesome. The details you consider when making a job is very impressive (the wall brackets are genius). I understand that you have to take the jobs that pay the bills my good man, so hats off to you for taking the consistently challenging ones.
Well, not many people are going to pay for Johnson+1 😂. That's why I make content 😜. Thanks for the comment and for watching! 👊
A pleasure as always KJ. Sometimes overcome adversity is the beauty of crafting. Love it.
Thanks Henry! Thanks for the encouragement!
Beautiful work. All those shelves need is a cat sitting on them.
😹 the next set I build will actually be cat specific 😉
very nice video!!! love your content! Love the bushings to compensate for slack in drywall!! 👍
Thanks Scott! I appreciate it 🤙🏻
Having just installed a similar set of "floating shelves" with live edges, I really appreciated your video! I used the Rockler system, which is not as elegant or expensive as your custom metal bracket, but it did the job. Very nice work, especially the matching of the shelves with the desk!
Thanks very much!
Hi Keith. I also have a little experience in hanging such shelves, so I can say with confidence - everything is done perfectly. Good job!
Thanks very much! There are definitely lots of great options out there. 👍
Yet another flawless video! Learned a few things so thank you!
Awesome! Thank you, Shawn!
Beautiful, man!! Even on the supposedly simple projects you make it look next level :).
Thanks buddy!! I appreciate it 👊🏻
Wow, very creative use of the space, looks great Keith!
Thanks Bob! Client was happy, too!
Gorgeous shelves….and it think it goes really well with the purple soundproofing in the end. After it was decorated I imagine it was beautiful! As always, i came for the woodworking, but glimpses of tiny furballs did not disappoint! Maybe one day you could show some outtakes of you with the cats answering YT questions over a cup of coffee (what would they put in their little mugs….tuna water? Bone broth? LOL it would be adorable either way, those 2 are probably better woodworkers than some of us-my feline friends and i have learned alot!!
😹 Thanks very much! And thanks for the cat video suggestions...you never know what you might see...😜
Absolutely stunning. Well done.
Thank you, Jim! Cheers!
you're amazingly talented and resourceful, Keith!
Thanks Mark! Much appreciated 👊
Beautiful work as usual they turned out amazing
Thanks a lot, Jim! I appreciate it 👍🏻
You and a paring chisel is a site to behold! Love to the cats!
😂 It was not my finest hour 😬
@@KeithJohnsonCustomWoodworking 8 inch deep is probably not everyone's finest hour!
I thought the same thing... every single time I've done it for customers. I use 5/8" threaded rods epoxied into holes drilled into studs. I have an frame jig I built to keep them level and perpendicular in two directions (mostly lattice wood with holes appropriately located). Now I can say I've got it dialed in and down as a predictable thing if I'm dealing with stud walls or concrete. Wall anchors NEVER work. Commercial brackets suck too.
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@7:50 Borat voice "Very nice!"
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I'm a Product Design Student (still taking my MA in Product Design, but i already graduated in Industrial Design). Everytime I get a chance to do a project with wood, or I have the chance to make the project direction towards wood, you're always on my mind because your craftsmanship and mastery really inspires me, and makes me wanna be better at understanding wood and working with it. You really do bring out the beautiful in wood, you make it a special material
That's very humbling. Thank you! Best of luck to you with your studies and your degree!
That is a massive jointer 😮!
Sure is!! 💪
I usually use clear lacquer to fill in around the knots before tinted epoxy. The lacquer cures super quick and you can keep moving.
There ya go! Great option 🤙🏻
love the videos, love the podcast. thanks for the content
Thanks for watching AND listening! I greatly appreciate the support 🙏🙌
Awesome project and well executed Keith! I can only imagine how much of a pain it was to drill those holes for the bracket 😬
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a full slab floating shelf before. But as always, your work is true master class craftsmanship!
Much appreciated, Christian! Definitely my first time doing a full slab floating shelf and hopefully it will be my last 😜
Any chance of a full slab floating shelf please oh and shipped to the UK 😂😂
@@tristiancorbett8896 shipping and import tax would cost you way too much 💵😂
Great idea on the AL bushings - going to use that, indeed.
Giddy up! It worked well 👍🏻
Your planet is gorgeous!!! If I had a planet like that I’d be so happy.
😂🤣
I always forget to seal with shellac! 😔 By now, with all the extra work I've had to do, I should remember. As always, great work and video!
😂 no excuses now! And thanks for the kind words 👊🏻
Absolutely stunning shelves!! 😍😍
Thank you! Floating…like a boat 😜
@@KeithJohnsonCustomWoodworking😂😂😂
Amazing work, Keith! Really beautiful shelves!!! 😃
Well, I'd love if my cats were that helpful! 😬
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thank you! Will do! 😎 🤙🏻
Ive made something similar this way .
The better approach imo. is to make a jig for carving out the inside of a half, glue the two hollow pieces together.
Anyways good job.
Cool, thanks!
came for the woodworking, stayed for the cats
And we are happy to have you! 😺😺
I need to pick up that 3x3 router plate. That would be perfect for an upcoming pattern bowl project I have.
It works great and is quite versatile 😎
Finally saw evidence of two separate cats.
😹 They DO exist!
Lovely stuff KJ 👌
Thank you, Ian! 🙏🏻
👍 Total Boat Baby!! Another great project! Thank you sir
😂 Thanks so much! #totalboatBABY
Floating shelves are huge pain in the tush. We need to convince people that shelf brackets can look nice also!
😂 let’s start the petition!
I sense that you are destined to move to a larger shop in the future? You seem to be spending a lot of time over there these days just to be able to handle the work. I would miss the charm your shop has (and the twins). Your garage is such a masterclass in organization and use of space it gives us hope that we too will someday be so organized.
Don’t worry, I’m never moving into a larger shop. The monthly overhead is far too much.
That turned out great! 👏
Thanks Adam! Cheers! 👊
This is my new favorite woodworking channel! Thanks for telling it like it is, and not sugar coating your mistakes. That's valuable for all us other woodworkers. I love walnut, so with all your walnut projects you got me hooked! haha Thanks, and keep up the good work! P.S. You've got some nifty tools! Thanks for telling us what they are too!
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it. I appreciate the comment. Mistakes are inevitable, so I try to show them as much as possible.
Superb work as always. 16” jointer, panto-router, yep we all got those just lying around in our shop 😂. Sheesh 16” jointer I’d be scared to use!
Professional shops need plenty of options to handle a variety of work 😉
@@KeithJohnsonCustomWoodworking For sure. Just giving you a hard time. I’ve never used a jointer that big unless you count my CNC 😂
Reamer... Use a sliding jig table with two stops on the drill press. A decent drill press can handle the lateral load if you slide slowly, and the deflection won't really matter because: wood.
The holes still wouldn’t be deep enough. And I’m not risking the precision of someone else’s drill press by laterally reaming holes. 😂
“That’s what she said!” 8:53 12:10 basically most of what you said while drilling the holes in the back 😂
My man! 😂🤣 Always applicable…
Amazing work as always!
Random question, but do you recommend that Harvey dust collector?
Thank you so much! And yes, I highly recommend the Harvey Gyro Air G700 👍
You have a panto router now! Wow those things are expensive but they look pretty sweet!
Yeah, it's an amazing and versatile little machine. Excited to experiment more with it.
Once you got the initial holes cut, an arbor bit might have been a better selection than a Forstner bit. Forstner bits are designed to produce a flat bottomed hole, which is not useful in this case, and the longer flutes on an arbor bit would have made the drilling far quicker. I like Irwin Speed Bore bits, but manufacturer is not important.
As i mentioned, those types are too aggressive and difficult to stop since they are meant for through holes
@@KeithJohnsonCustomWoodworking Sorry, must have missed that part.
@@jandrewmore No worries!
I’d guess there’s a weight reason why IKEA is making its LACK floating shelves out of cardboard filled plywood. And its holding metal structure is recessed within the shelves corpus.
Most likely!
Womper, I’ll need to work this word into my vocabulary. Thanks Keith!
😂 I can't guarantee it will be well received.
Perfect, I’m not very well received 😂
I’ve been using regular Lag bolts to do mine. Drill them right into the studs, cut the heads off with a hack saw, put the shelf on top and mark a line. Drill holes and hammer them on. No glue needed, they hold on super tight!
Nice! How long are those lag bolts??
I’ll send you a picture on Instagram. But they come in all different sizes.
@@Wavecruzer79 cool! Thanks 👍🏻
Same here, I actually cut the heads off and welded on an extra length. The abnormal size gave a tight fit
@@KeithJohnsonCustomWoodworkingyou can get them up to 16in
Awesome work
Thanks very much!
Beautiful build as always!... the 8" depth on the shelf supports seems like massive overkill... were they planning on have children jump on the shelves? Lol... that's some serious engineering.
Thanks Bob! They told me books, so we had to design as such! 😜💪🏻
nice work as always, cool contrast against purple (btw hate that color) soundproof material which made a pleasant color match, cheers V!
Thanks! Yeah, purple can be very polarizing 😂
Great looking shelves
Thanks Johnny! 👍
If your going to use the “you got to coordinate” line….you gonna have to work in mushroom belt😂
😂 You're right. I blew it. 😆
Theres a turning chisel called a "bedan". I think it would be an excellent tool to accomplish deep chisels. No, you didn't ask, but may be helpful info in the future. Love your work. Thanks for the fine examples, work, and entertainment. Please give Jerry my regards.
Thanks very much! 😺
HI Keith. Great videos and felines!
Glad you like them! Thanks man!
Inspector kitty......too funny
Always snooping around 🧐😹
resaw the shelves in half and use a bowl bit in your router to make a stopped dado at the same distances on both inside faces, glue it back together and you have perfect deep holes for the hardware. since you ended up laminating one of the slabs anyway you wouldnt even see the seem if you did that after making the holes
Not the route I wanted to take on this one, despite having to do it on one of them. I wasn't happy about that either.
With Osmo and Rubio, are you able to wash and reuse the microfiber cloths or are they considered disposable?
Disposable. Once the finish hardens, the cloths get too stiff to reuse.
I had to do some precise metal cuts for a crane I was building and I used a water jet instead of laser cutting because of the warping. My first attempts were too warped to use. I don't know what the advantage of laser cutting metal is, maybe price?
Interesting! I don't have access to anyone with a water jet, unfortunately.
I love the drywall spacer idea.
Thank you! It worked really well. 👍
Where do you get those circle work piece spacer things?
These? amzn.to/3XkBQCw
Was wondering about why you slotted a pocket for the shelf to accept the rod. Was the original plan for the shelf to slide left over the rod and into a slot in the sound proofing?
Yes, that was the original plan.
Good job
🙏🏻👍🏻😎
Just a thought given that you had joined the panel could you have drilled the holes on each board then glued up?
which holes are you referreing to?
Hi Keith, richtig cooles Video, wie immer!👍✌
Thank you very much! 🙏 🙌
Only easy day was yesterday, friend.
Looks like its time for you to get a Bridgeport xD.
😂 Pass.
I’m curious on why you went custom with brackets and didn’t use something like the Hovr brand brackets?
Hovr are 1-1/2" thick and these shelves are barely 1-5/8", so that's a pretty tight fit, leaving only 1/16" of material top and bottom. And the initial plan for these shelves was to remove strips of soundproofing (not giant panel like we decided to do) and slide the shelves in - that wouldn't have worked with having to angle the shelves up and then lock them down on to the Hovr brackets. Not to say it couldn't have worked, though.
When time presents itself and Jerry is awake ask him where he bought the bench hold down clams your using.
Thanks
😹 Kreg clamps and plates.
Construction grade lumber, is pretty close to pre covid prices. For the most part. Plywood is still pretty high.
Yeah, plywood is the killer. All depends on your location, too. Construction materials still high in east coast. 😫
@KeithJohnsonCustomWoodworking beautiful shelves btw.
Do you know what type of sound proof wall paper that was?
It’s made by turf.design
Amazing!
Thanks Johnny! 🤙🏻
@@KeithJohnsonCustomWoodworking you inspire me and my woodworking. I learn a lot from you and am always excited when you come out with a new video. Thanks!
@@johnnymccartney774 That’s means a lot! So glad my content is helpful. 👊🏻
Why didn’t you use a 12” long twist bit?
Couldn’t find a 3/4” one locally
With your tracksaw, why did you not put the dust collector on it?
Didn't have it with me.
Ficou lindo.
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Гарн у вас все виходить робити, приємно дивитись!
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Were you ever tempted to just shorten the metal poles an inch or two?? Looks rock solid
No, I thought these were the proper length for the depth and weight of these shelves. 👍
Pete is the GOAT!
He does have some very redeeming qualities 😜😎
How heavy was each shelf?
🤷🏼♂️ not sure. Didn’t weigh them.
Lmao got to do my favourite thing and break off a jigsaw blade.
Always a welcome surprise 😂
Could you have dominod two boards together (but not glue them together) drill the holes in the two boards, then glue together? captain hindsight here...
It’s certainly an option! There are numerous ways these could have been done, for sure.
Not a criticism, they look great. Just wondering how I would do them. Always more than one way to skin a cat (and I have tried!)
oh I didn't know there are two cats lolo😂
Brother and sister 😸😸
why did you break off jigsaw blades in all three boards? seems a bit excessive :P
I always have my reasons…😂
Looks nice but did you make any money? That’s a lot of work.
Thanks! I made a few shekels 😜
I HAVE noticed that auto-correct doesn't like planer. Sheesh.
😂😆 It's becoming a real problem for me.
nice
Thanks!
1:29 Goiter? What goiter?
😂 this football shaped growth jutting out of my neck!
If you want to use a jigsaw in that thicc solid wood you can buy the also very much overpriced 640+ bucks Mafell one. They have a special jigsaw blade which only fits in their machine that is thicker and cuts through solid wood like a track saw. Nah I'm not sure about that really.
Or just use a longer blade in my jig saw 😂
Ya
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Those shelves are great but the soundproofing ruins the aesthetic.
Thanks! I'll let the client know they made a horrible design choice
@@KeithJohnsonCustomWoodworking Hahaha. I read that in your voice Keith and started laughing so hard.
Just say no to auger bits ..
Exactly! 😂
So can assume im gonna start seeing panto routers in use on other furniture channels that "just happen" to use all the cool super expensive tools like festool, woodpecker, the self driving router, etc....ill click over to the epoxy table dude, and the two skinny guys that do super soft spoken narration, or the mere mortals guy or.........
At some stage, every woodworker enhances their tools in an attempt to improve efficiency and because of their LOVE for tools. Although the Pantorouter has been in existence for more than a decade, it's not a novelty. When one possesses a genuine passion for their craft, it is consistently gratifying to discover tools that expand design possibilities and enhance efficiency. Therefore, feel free to pursue your own interests on other channels without feeling obligated to announce your departure. You're not a plane leaving the gate. I apologize for seeking enjoyment in my work and exploring new tools. Shame on me.
Keith is a woodworker first and content creator second. Plenty of poseurs that are the opposite. I actually appreciate that he shows how to build amazing things with tools even he doesn’t use on the regular. No problems giving him shit for using a 16” jointer, but the overall method, product and delivery of his channel is one of the best.
@@5280Woodworking Thanks buddy!
@@KeithJohnsonCustomWoodworkingTake a page out of your cat’s book: never apologize for making the world a better place! (Your proofreader, Jerry should edit that last sentence to read “i DON’T apologize….”. -haha) You make awesome stuff, and this is a channel about you and the things you like to make. Plenty of us out here appreciate it and love to see you (and others) set a high bar the rest of us can aspire to. My grandfather and Dad did woodworking, cabinetmaking, etc, but they didn’t have access to alot of the cool tools. Love to see them used and reviewed by honest people before spending money on them. I also love the collabs you do with other peeps in their niche markets. You are keeping alive traditions that allow us to be self sufficient and pursue things we are truly passionate about. It is more than just a RUclips channel or ratings, it brings out the best in humanity! (As an aside, we had 2 wonderful furry friends that helped my husband estimate jobs, helped me garden, craft and play with the kids on our backyard obstacle course….they were everywhere we were, all the time! Roughly 13 years in, we put on addition with spray foam and poisoned our whole family…they were the first because their livers can’t process the chemicals like dogs or humans. Their sickness alerted me to something we might not have caught otherwise, but we lost them both shortly thereafter. It was heartbreaking. I can tell you love them very much and I can’t see your whole shop, but please make sure to give them a ton of ventilation over and above even what you think you should when using the chemicals (if you don’t already…). They are super sweet and I always look forward to seeing them in the videos.
5:33 😈😈😈😈! Omg
😹😹 gotta sleep with one eye open…
Planer
Nope…, worked fine for me 😂
Siri was listening…
I'm always wondering how much you guy's are charging for a set of those floating shelves. If i'm looking how much work you are putting in these they seem quite expensive. Seems that outside of europe people's are spending a lot of money on semi-hand build things. In western europe almost everybody is expecting to have a perfect quality item with a spot-on finishing for cheap. Which is ofcourse the reason why 99% of the work we are doing is completely cnc programmed
I'm still in business, so I guess I charged enough 😜. And yes, everyone wants perfection and don't necessarily want to pay for it. It makes it very difficult.
First! :-) Say hi to Jerry for me!
Will do!! 😺