JONATHAN HARMON: What It Took To Save Marcus Luttrell (Part 2)
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2023
- This week, Marcus Luttrell and former U.S. Air Force PJ and combat rescue officer, Jonathan Harmon, pick up where they left off in their last episode, bringing to the table a deep dive discussion regarding the details of how Jonathan was able to reasonably calculate Marcus’ direction and future location during the Operation Red Wings series of events in Afghanistan in June, 2005. Many details of that op are included in today’s discussion. It has now been 18 years since Operation Red Wings occurred.
Listen in as Jonathan & Marcus discuss the details of the efforts it took to bring Marcus home as the lone survivor of that operation.
In this episode you will hear:
• He [Matt Axelson] had made it close to a village and ended up being shot and killed. And then a villager took his body even further away and buried it. (4:27)• The best record we have [of Operation Red Wings] is from Marcus’ memory. (5:24)
• I think the American public would find it completely fascinating to learn what efforts our government will go to, to bring their people home. (10:24)
• What if you had the ability - and we knew there was a television close by - and you’re being held in a foreign country. It [a discrete message] could be so much as just a message on the television as simple as a small American flag on the screen. (11:55)
• If you can think of the worst day of your entire life, and how despondent you can be - that’s every day in captivity. (13:17)
• He [Marcus’ primary target] - disappeared through an air strike. (18:31)
• So I hand my map off, [and proceeds to list his specific findings] and predict where they would end up, and I’m told: “We’re going to Afghanistan.” (23:36)
• The two [sources of information - the Army’s findings and Jonathan’s findings] validated one another. So we had a location and we had confirmation. (28:07)
• For those that don’t know, we stripped that aircraft down. We took nothing that wasn’t necessary. (30:00)
• I like to call it a recovery - not of remains - but of a person because rescue would imply that we are rescuing you from our friendly forces. That’s not necessarily the case. (30:58)
• I think the first thing [that should happen to Marcus after his recovery] is that and he needed to get a full blown medical evaluation. (33:27)
• Doc Dickens will convince you that you are superman. You’re the fullest expression of yourself. (38:32)
• If there was a father figure for all of us - it was him [Doc Dickens]. (40:29)
• One has to consider the gravity of the circumstances [of Operation Red Wings]. The single most loss of life in the history of the United States Navy SEALS just happened. (42:27)
• To be given the clothing of the village elder is a personification of being him himself. (51:10)
• [Jonathan telling Marcus] Your adherence to your faith in captivity was unique among all stories I’ve ever heard. (51:48)
• If you pull the John Wayne act [while in enemy captivity], you’re gonna get tortured and killed. (53:52)
• He [Marcus] rewrote singlehandedly a lot of our resistance posture training because we were fighting a different kind of enemy that we didn’t write manuals for. (56:10)
• [Marcus] They would laugh at me because I would fall down, and I just kept trying. I would fail all the time. I can’t believe they kept me. (60:19)
• [Jonathan to Marcus] I have a question to ask you and I want you to think about this. Do you want to continue to operate? Or do you want to be a hero? And he thinks about it and says, “Fuck, man. I wanna operate.” (71:58)
• We learned early on that asking permission wasn’t gonna work. The very first thing I learned from the SEALS - beg for forgiveness. (87:55
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Semper Fi to the Marines from operation RedWings when I heard a PJ and Marcus say that we don’t care if they’re good or bad we are going to go get them that made my heart skip a beat because that means everything I sacrificed was worth it.
Zionist America just gave back Afghanistan to taliban ….
As a firefighter for 32 years the best PTSD treatment is being with my fellow brothers and sisters that have seen, smelt, heard and tasted what I have. God Bless those who serve.
Bless you for your service as a first responder🙏
I have never left a comment online but couldn't resist. The intelligence, professionalism and quality of each person who helped Marcus during Operation Red Wing is unfathomable. I for one am amazed by these people and so happy to know we have these people in our military and that they were in the right positions at the right time to help.
I forget the exact quote, but it goes something like: "We sleep safely in our beds, because there are Hard Men out there in the dark watching over us as we sleep"
Or words to that effect. 53 years ago, when I was 20 the Draft was in Full Effect, so I had no choice. I either Joined or would be Drafted, and at that time, everybody(or Almost Everybody) who waited to be Drafted was sent to either The Army(Then Into The Jungle Chasing Charlie), or The Marine Corps(Then Into the Jungle Chasing Charlie). I didn't have a Bone To Pick With Charlie, so I joined Uncle Sugar's Navy. A great many Draftees were Angry about being forced into Military Service, and Lots More, weren't exactly "The Cream Of The Crop", and Neither wanted anything to do with Military Service or Fighting in the jungles of Vietnam. Both affected the Combat Readiness & that got a lot of people Killed.
Today, our Military Personnel are All Volunteers, who Want To Serve, for one reason or another, and that Adds A Whole Lot To Our Readiness and Effectiveness as a Fighting Force
wow, she has to call a Navy SEALS body a it
I mean Marcus is straight up but his wife doesn’t need to be on his podcast. She just doesn’t make any sense. I can’t help it. She’s just trying to get some fame from fro is name
@@jamesdavidson3396 Wrong! She' there for Marcus. Let the lady have some fun & say her piece. If you've been watching Marcus over the years, you'll see that he's in a Much Better place now & his wife has definitely been a contributing factor. All Respect To Her, is due.
Next time you get the chance to talk with Marcus, tell him to boot his Wife from the show, because....Reasons & he'll explain it all to you
Mr. Harmon is one of the most excellent, clear story telling orator I have ever heard. #TeamNever Quit.
This man is out of this world intelligent with boundless depth. I pray he doesn’t feel lonely when surrounded by those who can’t readily touch the trauma.
That is such an Extremely Nice thing for you to say about this Gentleman. Don't know if it was your Mama & Daddy, or somebody else, but Somebody Raised You Right, and You Paid Attention. My Compliments Ma'am
@@dwightcurrie8316 thank you so much for your kind words Mister Currie. I am blessed with good parents but my husband is in the military with 15 years of service and multiple Afghanistan deployments and he is blessed to still have friends with the same history so I’m around the complexities of war aftermath often 💛 It is a breath of fresh air to see someone who has been able to sit with it for long enough to understand it. 💛
@@katethewholenesshomeembody6024 All the very Best to you and your Husband. America needs more people like the two of you
It's always good to hear from other people involved in the rescue of Marcus!!!!
Others involved, telling their Stories, certainly "Fleshes Out" the whole Ordeal. Marcus went through a Horrendous Ordeal that would have killed most normal Men, but the Men involved in the Rescue went through their own Hellish Ordeal, and that sacrifice is More Than Worthy of being told, and appreciated. I hope that the men who went in to get Marcus Out and those who Deployed to the "Red Wing" Crash Site Horror. "Everybody involved was a Hero" is often a trite attempt at "Lofty Rhetoric" often by those who have never heard a single "Shot Fired In Anger" talking about people who haven't Been Down Range either, but in this case, I'd say both these situations would be a Fair Assessment, and Description of All Those Involved. After all, when the announcement was made that they needed "Volunteers" to go look for Marcus & his Teammates, everybody within hearing distance Stepped Up And asked, "When Do We Leave?", nothing else. That's the Caliber of the Men our Military can and often does create, who will Stand Up On Their Hind Legs and Head Out Towards(Never Away From) the sound of Gunfire, Eager to Join The Fight. At 73+(My War was over a Half Century Ago) I am continually Amazed by the Men of my Youth, and that Amazement continues, even though what Currently passes for Military Leadership seems determined to Destroy Our Military as an Effective Fighting Force. I Pray those of that Sorry Ilk will Never Succeed
@@dwightcurrie8316 I have upmost respect for all military men and women!!!!
These men are living legends and Mr. Harmon seems to be very intelligent and a true Patriot that used his knowledge to help his brothren in battle. What a treat to be able to hear this story from Mr. Harmons perspective as a PJ. Thank you guys for sharing what must be a painful experience to go back through in detail. I find the PJ role more and more fascinating and have the utmost respect for them all. We need leaders like this
Truly an amazing interview and incredible operation. I always get brought to tears at some point hearing everyone’s story and how they were involved. Thank you for telling us your part Mr. Harmon you’re truly a legend!
I already got tears and we're not even twenty minutes into bless you all and thank you
Amazing Pod, a great different perspective on Operation Redwing. I'd be very interested to meet Doc Dickens with how you all talked about him. Y'all should have him on!
Just finished your book mate. I have no words except Thank you. And of course thanks to your 3 teammates as well.
This was incredible.. The bonding and brotherhood beyond duty was unbelievable. Y’all were more like brothers it seems. Thank you for sharing
I'm grateful that you are sharing this with us all. Thank you.
This Was Amazing Thank YOU! So so much. EDIT - Jonathan , I would love to see that Documentary the Franciscans here in Ireland truly saved my life there Amazing and i'll forever support them and what they do , Not just here in Ireland but worldwide
Thanks for telling your huge part in this Jon , Its always amazing to hear from people who helped Marcus in his time of need Thank You!
I loved listening to part 1 and part 2 of this.
Thank y’all.
Man Jonathan Harmon I love his story I really hope I get the chance to meet this guy
Thank u all so much for this one!!! Absolutely second to NONE!!!!
This was great, Loved it. Thank you!
Very moved, impressed and inspired by this podcast and the stories told. I could easily listen to a part 3 and 4!! Thank you both for your service. Thank you both for the work you are still doing. Thank you to your families that complement and support you!
Been waiting for this one y'all 👍
I’ve been digging in deep on all your videos. I appreciate you and all you have done for our country!!!!! With all respect and love from NH
When seals get jammed up on land they call army rangers
From one Texan to another really bad ass Texan thank you for everything you have done I’m in the middle of reading your book right now and it’s really changed my perspective on a bad day
What a great show !! Much love to all involved. ❤❤❤
This has to be the best episode and there's been a lot of good ones but this was the most endeavored of the situation on the Hill. I love you guys.
Marcus is patient, His wife has lots of things to say and he sits patiently as she speaks. She seems like a super neat lady and he’s lucky to have her!
This is the nicest way to say what you meant lol you're a wordsmith
Agree 🤐
@stevenroyer. Spot on. She wont let.people talk without interrupting. Podcast with spanky i quit watching it. So rude cutting him off 1000 times
I have un subbed due to the interruptions.
@@treyrose6447 I love listening to Marcus and would prefer to hear him tell and talk about the military related conversations exclusively. I don't mind her but she should just be the civilian voice and make THEIR stories relatable to the audience.
Amazing amazing conversation. Extremely well said. Thank you both for service to our country.
I can’t get enough of this story as tragic as it was axe was a warrior Murphy and Danny the same much respect from the uk 🇬🇧 and not forgetting the 16 brave men on that helicopter R.I.P to all of them lone survivor is a brilliant film you done them all proud Marcus 🙏🇬🇧🇺🇸
Johnathan and Markus are totally a team yet many make the success This interview is unbelievably amazing
Been waiting for this one!
me too
Thank you for sharing 👍🔥
so great.....thanks sir!
Another excellent show
two amazing human beings. choked up watching this so many times. just wow
I have watched the movie, read the book. It was amazing that anyone got out of that operation alive but the hard work of everyone it took to git him out was something of God.
Hell yes it’s finally out!!!!
Hey Marcus. Been waiting for this.
Same
That one was incredible! The exchange of pocket treasures was PRICELESS ❤
Excellent.
Jonathan Harmon is the Air Force's Don Shipley 💪👍🇺🇸
Amazing this podcast doesn't have more views, keep liking and sharing guys.
Well if anyone criticizes buds or hell week or any other branches extreme training programs for being too hard on the recruites need to listen to the nightmare of a story that was redwings this is exactly why the extreme training is required because most of the missions will never be that bad but in the few situations where everything went went on an epic scale they were able to endure what was necessary to survive and bring everyone home one way or another what everyone involved in the mission and following rescue/recovery mission endured was superhuman im proud we still have warriors that are willing to endure for my freedom thank you all 🇺🇸💯
Great…love the back stories…
God bless these Hero's. ❤
Thank you Melanie for asking about matt
Loved learning more about St. Francis of Assisi. And I found wood's and nature for healing. It does heal. That is a great step.. Enjoy❤️
That guys hair is freaking awesome.. I could see him kitted out.. no hat or helmet big black glasses.. big desert eagle on his hip.. lol his hair is phenomenal
Broken back, two broken legs, 3 gun shot wounds, tongue bitten in 1/2, only spends 7 days in a hospital, then up and walking, going out to dinner & visits a Porsche factory….. that’s Un human.
Because its BS !!
His back was not broken and the story is exaggerated.
Marcus ran when it got too hot.
Truly amazing stuff marcus. Keep up the great stuff please
I was at Ramstein/LRMC when Private Lynch and the other POW’s came through. It was nuts!
at 33:00- the reference to the Pave Hawk that rolled down Mt. Hood. That helicopter was rebuilt and flew again, but unfortunately was lost with all souls years later.
How do we turn off the mmhmm’s?
Keep it up guys gets better every time
Respect 🙏👌🇮🇪
Was a cliffhanger after part one. Pretty sure the sof guys and marines can stay at home for the next war… Air Force is the most mighty force in the world
Finally
i miss morgan or how about dave the rut rutherford
Or The Wizard !!
I have a sleeve I need to get finished I'm really thinking about a nice American Flag laid in. Marcus and Morgan's flags look awesome! 🇺🇸
TWO GREAT WARRIORS
I love both of the Luttrell brothers. One is a congressman now on the Republican side
And a darn good one
Yep
This guy Jonathon is super intelligent. You can see why its the Air force guys that win the wars. Seals Green Beret all good have purpose. But no where near this guys intelligence not even close!
So in vietnam. The CCN SOG SR Teams that went into Laos & Cambodia they had a 100% casualty rate! So I always tell everyone. Small 4-6 man recon teams that get compromised you can expect a 100% casualty rate. So everyone needs to understand with redwings the 4 man SR Team getting ambushed. It’s 100% normal and expected. The only surprise is Marcus was able to survive. For example. There’s still over 100 guys in Laos or Cambodia that are still MISSING IN ACTION. That were never recovered. -- so the mission was not a failure technically. The purpose of a SR team is go find the enemy. That may include getting overran and killed. It’s something that people gotta understand and expect. So many speak of redwings as if they are surprised at the outcome. When it literally played out exactly like vietnam era CCN MacVSog recon operations. -- when your outnumbered, your outnumbered. Superior Training means nothing in a real gunfight.
The truth will come out.
Wait I'm so confused. Why would marcus try to escape gulab? They kept saying he was in captivity. I thought they were protecting him? Not trying to start an argument. I'm genuinely confused.
The taliban was after him and came to the village on multiple occasions. Killed some of the villagers. They would move marcus every day to different hiding spots.
Read the book and that will be you AAR and if you still have question read Service too and that will fill in any questions you have
In short he was not with Gulab 24/7 ill leave it at that , if you read the book it will answer any questions you have
How about interview Dr Greer about UFO’s & how a man made one could have rescued many men, under any condition
I've watched Markus do these interviews for a few days and it just came to me? I mean this not in a bad way, but it is a concern. Markus is very immature! He acts younger than his age. I question Navy SEAL applications? I'm sure they analyze these young men before they are allowed into SEAL training? But after thinking about it, maybe thats just kind person they want as a SEAL?
Yeah this is shady asf Marcus straight up left those dudes.
Lots of things don't pass the smell test.
lil boy name axe on murphs birthday that’s a sign saying no matter wat anyone says those heroes ur brothers Marcus they are with u
I wish the direction of the conversation would stop changing.
I want to know the truth. That may be what we are hearing but I don’t think it’s all told like it was. Just my opinion after reading different books on it
Me too, to many holes in the story, and to top it off his Pashto savior has ZERO contact with him. Even though Gulab lives in TX ! WTF
If picking up the Bat phone doesn't give you a semi we can't be friends.
I traded dip with an afghan one time on a patrol.. I just remember it was a little ball.. 😂 can’t recall if I slept or not..
Get sf or rangers on podcast
I seen the movie several times. My question is, there is so much of the movie that is not correct according to Marcus interviews. If you are going to do a true story why was it changed?
That nasty Pepsi bottles was a joke. They gave that to Marcus on purpose. Was probably pristine before he got it.
We know what the message was! Loud speakers blaring Fourtunate Son on black hawks . With Team America coming to save the.merFing day yea!!!
It took Rangers. Ask Markus.
Gulab was on a Kill or Capture list by the CIA?????
The unknown gal in the burgundy jacket has some serious kanz.
That’s a serious set of hair
It’s so interesting but it’s hard to watch with all the Hum Hum, Hum Hum 😅 damn
Ive never watched an adult man scream for attention harder than the PJ. "Im special so give me what i want" is what he's said to himself daily since birth. If counseling works soo well then why are they so broken ? Why doesnt god work if its so powerful.
His wife is gorgeous.
Not only the Old Testament is the same the Muslims do not dispute any of the miracles that Jesus Christ performed they just think he was a prophet and God is too holy to have a son
And what exactly was the betrayal from the"Jews"?
Youur probably wrong about everything you said? Hmmmmm? Then why would you say this?? What are you suggesting Sir?
Tu saw me get cigarettes
Tu saw me get cigarettes? your Brother HIM CIA O29 US Navy Seal Devgru 6 SWCC Officer O19 Kaiser Tsar Matthew Floyd Marston Romanov Windsor 2 Rothschild Rockefeller Cartier Luttrell 2
Marcus is called a liar by the teams.
That's false. Marcus is one of the most respected and liked from all the seal community.
That's untrue
@joshhollar2223 no its not. Do some research. Nobody. And i mean nobody believes his account. There is even interviews with the rangers who found him and the bodies. Gulab has also called him a liar.
That's BS !!!
Marcus Is A Good Guy !!!
That's a lie jackglockstar.look at your name your probably marine and jealous of seals
Glockstar! haha
omg, the wife has no discipline. I would have liked to hear the doctor talk about rewriting the book on being a hostage vs being a POW. Instead, Melanie interrupts again. Duct tape her if you gotta.
This mf just said toxic masculinity smh
women showing face was huge
this man is clearly not straight
This podcast would be so much better without his wife CONSTANTLY just “MMHMM. MHMMM. MMHMM.” After every single sentence the guest says… jeez.
High regards for Marcus . His guest not so much
Hey I wasn’t clear if Marcus’ wife was following along with what he was saying in the first 10 minutes, could you have her “mmhmmm” a couple hundred more times.
Holy shit.
Ask how many mags Marcus had when rescued. I've read he had full kit and am curious if that's true. I'd think that's a ridiculous statement but you never know.
Didn’t this story get exposed ? The guy left behind ? Eric Deming ?
Nobody or nothing is sweating more than the buttons on this Air Force guy shirt 🫣 he needs to go up a size because they are going to pop 😳
HEY MICHAEL! LOL. IF YOU THINK THAT HIS SHIRT IS TIGHT THAN YOURE EITHER BLIND OR HAVE NO CLUE ON PROPER WAY TO DRESS. HATE TO SEE WHAT BAGGY PIECES OF WALMART SHT YOU WEAR 😂
I'll make your family quit. You can't return that. All was destroyed.
Rangers survived, seals did not. Your nuts are too small.