Thanks everyone for watching the Masterclass. If you have any questions. Please leave a comment! 😜 👉 Also check our super detailed Milky Way Photography guide: www.photopills.com/articles/milky-way-photography-guide
Got some really good information from this class. Been hesitant to try luminosity masks but saw how helpful they can be with blending. Gonna watch this one several times. Thanks for all the free information. Most folks would charge for this kind of information.
appreciate the kind words! yeah this is certainly the stuff I usually sell in my premium tutorials, but I didn't want to hold back. Too bad we ran out of time I had a bunch more I would have loved to cover
I learn something new every time I watch one of these Masterclasses. This time, it was what I can do with Smart Objects in Photoshop. That is going to be a game-changer for me in many different aspects of my work.
Couldn't be there live to view but have since watched and thoroughly enjoyed the presentation, wonderful images and techniques beautifully explained as expected from Nick.
Many thanks, Rafael and Nick, for offering such an helpful and inspiring masterclass. Nick, some of your ideas, such as lightening a night scene with drones are just... crazy and genius thoughts ! Thank you Patrice
Thanks guys really enjoyed it and will try some on these techniques myself. I'm in north western australia so I watched the replay. Love both of your work.
Thank you for this PhotoPills (Rafa) and Nick! I love the straight froward approach Nick has to complex problem. Especially the treatment of night skies was an eye opener. I was finally able to toss my clarity, vibration and texture filter pushing editing path over board! Eternally and for ever!
Great presentation. I have studied the editing techniques of many well-known astrophotographers. Here is why this presentation impressed me: (1) Nick’s approach feels straightforward, logical, and simple. He understands the editing tools available to him and how those tools will best get him to his final destination, and (2) As I have learned from my astrophotography ventures, analyzing a scene from dual aspects.....how will I best capture the scene and how will I be able to process it........is vitally important, and finally, (3) I could personally invest more time and effort into better foreground image collection when in the field. It is easy to get caught up in the excitement of capturing a wicked MW, but working that foreground for good image data is crucial to getting the best image outcome. Thanks PhotoPills and Great Job Nick Page!! Loved it!!
Thanks for the kind words Rick! I think Astrophotography is one of those genera where people tend to get really really technical, and forget sometimes about the creativity aspect. Its really easy to do since its a challenging subject to shoot.
MY NOTES (FWIW) In Lightroom: (ruclips.net/video/_hX-yIejU_g/видео.html0 Foreground: Reduce Contast Not too saturated Increase shadows and Blacks a bit. Go Down to sharpening and increase, to about 25% then Alt or opt while hitting Masking will sharpen everything that's white. (to avoid sharpening noise go almost all the way to the right, to get rid of the noise in the dark areas) Decrease the radius to tiny. Then add the noise reduction (about 30%) Remove chromatic aberrations. Highlight images for blending by highlighting and clicking SYNC so adjustiments are uniform in two images. Rt click: Edit in: Smart objects in photoshop. In Photoshop : Duplicate: Goto Layer; “smart object” “open smart object via copy” (if two separate images, you can click on one image, click move, carry onto the second image in the upper right, and release in center of current image. There are now two layers. Now working on Foreground (starry sky) Bring down shadows and blacks to increase contrast Increase whites Increase contrast Play with temperature (3500 to 3900) Tint is key Add a little color with the camera calibration tab Increasing the saturation of one of these channels (red and blue?) Decrease clarity and texture. Dehaze possibly for more stars. Adjust brightness Graduated filter if needed for darkest part of sky Go back up to detail and remove some noise reduction if the stars seem too distinct and lonely. (adding some noise back) Adding a little bit of sharpening back. Merging the two: Highlight the top layer and hit alt/option while clicking on the new tiny layer icon at the bottom Black is concealing the entire layer. Select a white paint brush and reveal the lower layer (White, 100% opacity and flow) Now a luminosity mask in black and white allows my to paint the light stuff without painting into the shadows. Need lumenzia mask panel add on, then click the upper right panel. If there is an object you want to exclude or mask that isn't dark enough, you can mask by color (instead of brightness) double click on color conversion layer and select for color preferred while unselecting colors unwanted in mask. Slide back contrast sliders to empasize the mask you want. Then select that with select button in lumenzia. Start painting with white to expose the sky. Multiple images to blend from LR? Then open up as layers by highlighting each and right clicking to open up as layers in PS.
You really slid by one of the most interesting concepts, when you were refining your luminosity mask by boosting some colors and cutting other colors in the black/white conversion layer generated by Lumenzia. There's a whole world of creativity and inspiration there when you start manipulating the colors to improve b/w conversions. Did you consider using the color range or color picker in Lumenzia? It doesn't work real well if you have desaturated colors. also surprised you didn't mention zone express by Blake Rudis. I sometimes use that for color grading.
@@NickPage Don't get me wrong, it was great. Especially seeing your motivation for doing something, then the follow-through techniques. Come on down to the So Cal deserts sometime, I'd love to pick your brain and I can guide you to some out-of-the-way places.
@Nick Page Incredibly informative Masterclass, but not at all what I was expecting. When I saw that the topic was "Milky Way Photography Post Processing Masterclass", that was what I was expecting. Instead, what you presented was a Masterclass on Luminosity Masks and Layering. It was still very informative, but it was not at all what I was expecting. The fact that most of the images happened to be Milky Way images was almost coincidental to the masking and layers to bring out the best in the other parts of the image. The same lesson could have been given in any situation with a high dynamic range such as sunset at Horseshoe Bend or sunrise at the Mesa Arch. I have to admit, I was hoping for more info on how to bring the most out of the Milky Way itself and to make the Milky Way "pop". None the less, it was still an informative video.
Sorry you were disappointed with the session, but none the less, that is how I process my milkyway images. I felt that rather than spending an hour talking about adding contrast to the milkyway, I would try to ram more info down everyone's throat on the entire processing of the image, not just the milkyway. Perhaps we should have called this, processing nightscapes, because to me, thats all a milkyway image is.
Nick is a legend. Been following him for some time. Thanks for organising this @photopills. Btw Nick mentioned about Michael Sembloom I think for color of sky. Any chance i can get some more details of him e.g. his channel etc. Can't find him with that name. Thanks.
Thank you so much for this I have enjoyed watching and learning.I have an equipment question, With Lumenzia (for a new person) would you just purchase it on its own or with the masterclasses to learn how to use it? Also with the wacom for someone starting out would you purchase the Intuos pro or just the Intuos? any advice is appreciated
I purchased Lumenzia about 6 months ago along with the Exposure Blending Master Course. The course helped me learn how to better use Lumenzia. So, I'd say, yes.
What a great education in night photography, in almost all the images I have seen here I would have wanted a different composition on almost all the photo's shown *Except fallen tree trunk and a few others . For example in the 'Church' tutorial in my opinion should ideally be landscape FORMAT, comprising of several frames from left to right, top to bottom maybe 9 photo's eg. providing a far larger scale photo, ( as an educational frame it is excellent) but I can see how good your work is but also how it 'could' be so much better. 'In my opinion' that photo does not sit well as a portrait format photo. You are an excellent photographer becuase of the 'risks' you are willing to take, 'photographically speaking' going for things which were unplanned and able to improvise . Your fundementals are excellent because you are producing what 'you' want, ie: natural looking realistic shots and no higory pockery to boot (non composites). A superb discussion, informative but also relaxed with an informal feel. Many thanks. Great video Guys! Thank you Rafael Pons for the 'link' a Nick Page Master Class. To produce the correct format - you would possibly need a flat platform for the camera to be able to move into varying positions on a grid based plane to acheive this idea. With your equipment you could consider adding video/photshop/lightpainting combinations too.
This was a great masterclass. Thanks for answering my question about star reflections in water. I've been a little hesitant to get into luminosity masks, but Nick has convinced me that it's going to be far easier and far better than what I have been doing (i've only been post-processing Photoshop for a few months). I use Lightroom for importing and categorizing my photos, but then I do all my raw file workflow from Bridge and editing in Camera Raw (rather than Lightroom), and Smart Object/layer handling in Photoshop like Nick. Any thoughts on that? Thanks Nick and Rafael/PhotoPills.
thanks for the kind words Scott, yeah as long as your opening as a smart object, its really exactly the same.. the RAW file handling is exactly the same
well i think he is the first photographer to use lightroom with sony, ¿why lightroom? Capture one is used and recommended by other Sony photographers, ¿what's is the difference?
I heard the same thing about capture one.. I tried to use it but the roundtripping from capture one to photoshop (which is way way more powerful) is just too clunky.. Lightroom and photoshop are still the best editing softwares out there for photographers regardless of the camera system I think.
@@NickPage First of all it was a very detailed and inspirational lesson. Thank you for that! In exchange let me tell you that the Noise reduction data (also known as black frame) is included in the raw files indeed. At least the camera formats I'm familiar with (as an ex-software engineer -now product owner- at Phase One/Capture One). Regarding to how powerful Capture One vs Photoshop is I guess the biggest difference for your workflow is the image blending part. Obviously that is non-existent in Capture One. For single raw file processing I didn't see anything in this video which couldn't be achieved directly in Capture One. Maybe the Orton Effect as an exeption. :) Anyway, thank you again showing your workflow. I took some notes - not just as a photographer.
@@NickPage thanks for answering. Luminar ambassadors use Lightroom and Photoshop, but they don't use Luminar in their tutorials, for example. You just have to follow the tutorials that landscape photographers offer and they use Lightroom and Photoshop. in my personal case I use both.
If you click on the CC button on the bottom of the video, English subtitles should come up for you... they are auto generated, so they arn't perfect but they are close
Nick is a Excellent Photographer but a lousy Teacher when it comes to Lightroom/Photoshop He must think Everyone is an expert , what about beginners ? Went over my head
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Thanks everyone for watching the Masterclass. If you have any questions. Please leave a comment! 😜
👉 Also check our super detailed Milky Way Photography guide: www.photopills.com/articles/milky-way-photography-guide
Didn't see this live, but wow. Thanks Nick for your usual generosity and expertise, and thanks Rafa for hosting this one.
Thanks so much Tom!
Very welcome, thank you Tom
Nick is my favorite since a long time.
I appreciate that thank you!
Amazing photographer and person!
Got some really good information from this class. Been hesitant to try luminosity masks but saw how helpful they can be with blending. Gonna watch this one several times. Thanks for all the free information. Most folks would charge for this kind of information.
Glad you found it useful. Thanks Robert!
appreciate the kind words! yeah this is certainly the stuff I usually sell in my premium tutorials, but I didn't want to hold back. Too bad we ran out of time I had a bunch more I would have loved to cover
Most enjoyable PhotoPills to date. I love Nick's approach.
Thank you John!
Nick Page is awesome!!!
Thank you Lisa!
I learn something new every time I watch one of these Masterclasses. This time, it was what I can do with Smart Objects in Photoshop. That is going to be a game-changer for me in many different aspects of my work.
Cool! Thank you Raygan!
Thank you for hosting with Nick Page - this was terrific!
thank you for the kind words
Thank you!
I love the simplicity of your processing solutions. Thank you.
Thank you Tom!
Couldn't be there live to view but have since watched and thoroughly enjoyed the presentation, wonderful images and techniques beautifully explained as expected from Nick.
Thank you John!
Thank you gentlemen. I learned so much. Smart object and luminosity masks were a mystery but now I'm eager to use them in my own processing.
Yeah!
Excellent session. Thank you very much.
Thanks so much!
Love Nick Page and photo pills!
Love you too!
Thanks PhotoPills. Excellent video and class!
Thanks so much Michael!
Many thanks, Rafael and Nick, for offering such an helpful and inspiring masterclass. Nick, some of your ideas, such as lightening a night scene with drones are just... crazy and genius thoughts ! Thank you
Patrice
Thank you Patrice!
really appreciate the kind words Patrice! thank you
Flying the drone at night is also illegal in the US.
Thanks guys really enjoyed it and will try some on these techniques myself. I'm in north western australia so I watched the replay. Love both of your work.
Thanks Pamela! Give it a try!
Excellent tutorial. Thanks Nick
Thanks JK!!
Thank you for this PhotoPills (Rafa) and Nick! I love the straight froward approach Nick has to complex problem. Especially the treatment of night skies was an eye opener. I was finally able to toss my clarity, vibration and texture filter pushing editing path over board! Eternally and for ever!
Awesome! Glad you like it! thanks!!
Great presentation. I have studied the editing techniques of many well-known astrophotographers. Here is why this presentation impressed me:
(1) Nick’s approach feels straightforward, logical, and simple. He understands the editing tools available to him and how those tools will best get him to his final destination, and
(2) As I have learned from my astrophotography ventures, analyzing a scene from dual aspects.....how will I best capture the scene and how will I be able to process it........is vitally important, and finally,
(3) I could personally invest more time and effort into better foreground image collection when in the field. It is easy to get caught up in the excitement of capturing a wicked MW, but working that foreground for good image data is crucial to getting the best image outcome.
Thanks PhotoPills and Great Job Nick Page!! Loved it!!
Thanks for the kind words Rick! I think Astrophotography is one of those genera where people tend to get really really technical, and forget sometimes about the creativity aspect. Its really easy to do since its a challenging subject to shoot.
Thank you Rick!
Great master class Nick and thank you Photopills!
Thank you!
Thanks!!
Very helpful! More please.
Thank you!
I loved everything about this! Such a great learning experience. Lots of golden nuggets scattered throughout the session. Thank you!
Thank you Andrew!
Thanks for this presentation - very useful information!
Thanks so much!
Great video. This one goes into my reference file.
Thank you!
I just want the Photoshop plug-in for the masking.. holy moly! That is awesone!
Thanks!
Fantastic tutorial! I definitely learned a lot!
Thanks so much!
Very informative...thanks.
Thanks!
I feel so painfully called out on my photography spendings 🤣🤣🤣
:D
This masterclass is awesome. Thank you so much!
Thanks so much!
Nick, you're right, it is illegal to fly a drone at night in the U.S. To do so legally you need a waiver.
Thanks for the feedback Matt!
MY NOTES (FWIW)
In Lightroom: (ruclips.net/video/_hX-yIejU_g/видео.html0
Foreground:
Reduce Contast
Not too saturated Increase shadows and Blacks a bit.
Go Down to sharpening and increase, to about 25% then Alt or opt while hitting Masking will sharpen everything that's white. (to avoid sharpening noise go almost all the way to the right, to get rid of the noise in the dark areas)
Decrease the radius to tiny.
Then add the noise reduction (about 30%)
Remove chromatic aberrations.
Highlight images for blending by highlighting and clicking SYNC so adjustiments are uniform in two images.
Rt click:
Edit in: Smart objects in photoshop.
In Photoshop : Duplicate: Goto Layer; “smart object” “open smart object via copy”
(if two separate images, you can click on one image, click move, carry onto the second image in the upper right, and release in center of current image. There are now two layers.
Now working on Foreground (starry sky)
Bring down shadows and blacks to increase contrast
Increase whites
Increase contrast
Play with temperature (3500 to 3900) Tint is key
Add a little color with the camera calibration tab
Increasing the saturation of one of these channels (red and blue?)
Decrease clarity and texture. Dehaze possibly for more stars.
Adjust brightness
Graduated filter if needed for darkest part of sky
Go back up to detail and remove some noise reduction if the stars seem too distinct and lonely. (adding some noise back) Adding a little bit of sharpening back.
Merging the two:
Highlight the top layer and hit alt/option while clicking on the new tiny layer icon at the bottom
Black is concealing the entire layer.
Select a white paint brush and reveal the lower layer (White, 100% opacity and flow)
Now a luminosity mask in black and white allows my to paint the light stuff without painting into the shadows. Need lumenzia mask panel add on, then click the upper right panel. If there is an object you want to exclude or mask that isn't dark enough, you can mask by color (instead of brightness) double click on color conversion layer and select for color preferred while unselecting colors unwanted in mask. Slide back contrast sliders to empasize the mask you want. Then select that with select button in lumenzia. Start painting with white to expose the sky.
Multiple images to blend from LR?
Then open up as layers by highlighting each and right clicking to open up as layers in PS.
Thanks for the tips!
You really slid by one of the most interesting concepts, when you were refining your luminosity mask by boosting some colors and cutting other colors in the black/white conversion layer generated by Lumenzia. There's a whole world of creativity and inspiration there when you start manipulating the colors to improve b/w conversions. Did you consider using the color range or color picker in Lumenzia? It doesn't work real well if you have desaturated colors. also surprised you didn't mention zone express by Blake Rudis. I sometimes use that for color grading.
There is only so much you can cover in an hour... was trying to keep from going down a rabbit hole
Thanks for the feedback Wes!
@@NickPage Don't get me wrong, it was great. Especially seeing your motivation for doing something, then the follow-through techniques. Come on down to the So Cal deserts sometime, I'd love to pick your brain and I can guide you to some out-of-the-way places.
@Nick Page Incredibly informative Masterclass, but not at all what I was expecting. When I saw that the topic was "Milky Way Photography Post Processing Masterclass", that was what I was expecting. Instead, what you presented was a Masterclass on Luminosity Masks and Layering. It was still very informative, but it was not at all what I was expecting. The fact that most of the images happened to be Milky Way images was almost coincidental to the masking and layers to bring out the best in the other parts of the image. The same lesson could have been given in any situation with a high dynamic range such as sunset at Horseshoe Bend or sunrise at the Mesa Arch. I have to admit, I was hoping for more info on how to bring the most out of the Milky Way itself and to make the Milky Way "pop".
None the less, it was still an informative video.
Thank you for the feedback :)
Sorry you were disappointed with the session, but none the less, that is how I process my milkyway images. I felt that rather than spending an hour talking about adding contrast to the milkyway, I would try to ram more info down everyone's throat on the entire processing of the image, not just the milkyway. Perhaps we should have called this, processing nightscapes, because to me, thats all a milkyway image is.
Nick is a legend. Been following him for some time. Thanks for organising this @photopills. Btw Nick mentioned about Michael Sembloom I think for color of sky. Any chance i can get some more details of him e.g. his channel etc. Can't find him with that name. Thanks.
Hi! It's Michael Shainblum. This is his channel: ruclips.net/user/shainblum
Bikram Ghosh here is a link to Michael’s work ruclips.net/video/49t3H2Ck29k/видео.html
Thanks for the kind words! Michael is one of those guys that I really respect and look up to, his website is www.shainblumphoto.com/
@@mikelahaie83 thanks Mike. Was watching this last night
@@PhotoPillsthanks team
What remote wireless shutter release does Nick use?
Don't know now...
Thank you so much for this I have enjoyed watching and learning.I have an equipment question, With Lumenzia (for a new person) would you just purchase it on its own or with the masterclasses to learn how to use it? Also with the wacom for someone starting out would you purchase the Intuos pro or just the Intuos? any advice is appreciated
I believe this is a good question for @nickpage
I purchased Lumenzia about 6 months ago along with the Exposure Blending Master Course. The course helped me learn how to better use Lumenzia. So, I'd say, yes.
What a great education in night photography, in almost all the images I have seen here I would have wanted a different composition on almost all the photo's shown *Except fallen tree trunk and a few others . For example in the 'Church' tutorial in my opinion should ideally be landscape FORMAT, comprising of several frames from left to right, top to bottom maybe 9 photo's eg. providing a far larger scale photo, ( as an educational frame it is excellent) but I can see how good your work is but also how it 'could' be so much better. 'In my opinion' that photo does not sit well as a portrait format photo. You are an excellent photographer becuase of the 'risks' you are willing to take, 'photographically speaking' going for things which were unplanned and able to improvise . Your fundementals are excellent because you are producing what 'you' want, ie: natural looking realistic shots and no higory pockery to boot (non composites). A superb discussion, informative but also relaxed with an informal feel. Many thanks. Great video Guys! Thank you Rafael Pons for the 'link' a Nick Page Master Class. To produce the correct format - you would possibly need a flat platform for the camera to be able to move into varying positions on a grid based plane to acheive this idea. With your equipment you could consider adding video/photshop/lightpainting combinations too.
what happened to a 1080 recording.......??????? Disappointed...... :(
Often when things are streamed live.. its hard to find a service that will stream 1080.. This was just a live event you are rewatching
Can't use a Drone at Night Time in Australia! Rules say Day time only..
Thanks for the feedback :)
It's the same in the U.S.
This was a great masterclass. Thanks for answering my question about star reflections in water. I've been a little hesitant to get into luminosity masks, but Nick has convinced me that it's going to be far easier and far better than what I have been doing (i've only been post-processing Photoshop for a few months). I use Lightroom for importing and categorizing my photos, but then I do all my raw file workflow from Bridge and editing in Camera Raw (rather than Lightroom), and Smart Object/layer handling in Photoshop like Nick. Any thoughts on that? Thanks Nick and Rafael/PhotoPills.
thanks for the kind words Scott, yeah as long as your opening as a smart object, its really exactly the same.. the RAW file handling is exactly the same
Thank you Scott!
well i think he is the first photographer to use lightroom with sony, ¿why lightroom? Capture one is used and recommended by other Sony photographers, ¿what's is the difference?
I suppose every photographer has different needs/preferences. Everyone should use the tools that fulfill their needs 😀
I heard the same thing about capture one.. I tried to use it but the roundtripping from capture one to photoshop (which is way way more powerful) is just too clunky.. Lightroom and photoshop are still the best editing softwares out there for photographers regardless of the camera system I think.
@@NickPage First of all it was a very detailed and inspirational lesson. Thank you for that!
In exchange let me tell you that the Noise reduction data (also known as black frame) is included in the raw files indeed. At least the camera formats I'm familiar with (as an ex-software engineer -now product owner- at Phase One/Capture One).
Regarding to how powerful Capture One vs Photoshop is I guess the biggest difference for your workflow is the image blending part. Obviously that is non-existent in Capture One. For single raw file processing I didn't see anything in this video which couldn't be achieved directly in Capture One. Maybe the Orton Effect as an exeption. :)
Anyway, thank you again showing your workflow. I took some notes - not just as a photographer.
@@NickPage thanks for answering. Luminar ambassadors use Lightroom and Photoshop, but they don't use Luminar in their tutorials, for example. You just have to follow the tutorials that landscape photographers offer and they use Lightroom and Photoshop. in my personal case I use both.
Not English subtitles. I’m deaf & need subtitles
If you click on the CC button on the bottom of the video, English subtitles should come up for you... they are auto generated, so they arn't perfect but they are close
I hoe the auto generated subtitles work...
Nick is a Excellent Photographer but a lousy Teacher when it comes to Lightroom/Photoshop
He must think Everyone is an expert , what about beginners ?
Went over my head
Thank you for the feedback!
Eliminado: por dar el coñazo en España con el inglés
Piensa que tenemos un único canal y publicamos los vídeos tanto en inglés como en español, ya que tenemos usuarios en todo el mundo. Pero para cada vídeo en inglés, tenemos uno mismo en español. Así que el contenido es el mismo en ambos idiomas.