She was quite clear she did not want any of his "old technology, etc." That she was going in a new direction and his stuff was not part of it So yeah, he got rid of his "old technology) I am not certain it was the right thing to do however since he was paid for all that work and technically, the company owned it. I'm sure if the company sued, he would lose
@Sharingan1989 actually, everything he has created for the firm belongs to the firm. That includes everything he deleted. So, yes, he could be punished for deleting company property. A real architectural firm would have multiple copies of everything , though, so this would not happen in a real world setting. He could have sued for wrongful termination as she had no reason to terminate him. Instead he chose to bring down the company to get back at the woman who he felt got the job he should have had. Idiots abound in this story.
What I didn't hear was whether they had him sign anything declaring that anything produced by him while employed by the company were the intellectual property of said company. If he did, then the company would have legal recourse because deleting company data would be a crime. I know when I got my job they made me sign an intellectual property agreement. And I also agree that any company worth its salt should have been able to restore the deleted files from backup. And even if everything was "tied to his account" they should have IT security measures to recover it regardless - after all the account did not belong to him, it belonged to the company. So not having effective control over those three things is shame on that company.
My thinking exactly. The story was written by someone who conveniently ignored the legal reality that underlies ALL this intellectual property stuff. All. Of. It.
Perfect analysis and 1,000% correct. Even without signing an IP agreement, work created while “on the click” is normally company property, especially if that work product was the result of Alex’ job duties.
I'm pretty sure those files, unless Alex had a clause in his contract that stated he was the sole owner of said files, were the intellectual property of the company. If that was the case, he should and in the US would have been sued for the recovery of those files.
Depending on where he worked, it could have been an "At Will" state meaning they could fire him if they didn't like the weather that day and there would be nothing he could do about it.
Why didn't they make this story so the boss deleted the files? It feels like that would have been a better plot line and fits in better with the impact of the missing files in the story.
With a decent system backup program in place they could have gone back and recovered the files from an older version. If they don't have a system in place or if they do have a system in place and no one knows about it or how to recover with it that looks like more incompetence. Of course there is the possibility that the data management knew but didn't like what had happened so they just stood back and let the place go up in flames.
His account would have been deleted by the system admin in time anyway. They probably didn’t realize they need to just deactivate by carol’s authorization. I was a sys admin and as soon as the paperwork is put in the system we had to delete unless it came from management to just deactivate
The boss is an idiot! Any Company allowing the essential data beeing sabotaged without proper backup doesn't deserve to sustain in business. Any employee however mistreated should be held responsible when executing such an act of sabotage. Not because of the company'S survival but the coworker's jobs he willingly endangered in a massive way..
I have back ups of everything I create on a thumb drive in case anything goes haywire I have that to restore. That said, They are my creations, my templates, my process docs. If I leave the company like this guy, those are going too. They are the only notes on how to do parts of my job that no one else knows how to do but me. Things *I* had to figure out and noted them as part of the process to refer back to if needed. If someone had to figure it out from scratch, they could do it eventually, but it would be months of trial and error and them not knowing the nuances of what works and you have to do x before y, or you have to run x report to get z data. So at best, by my taking my creations, it would be an inconvenience to them, but wouldn't break the company just put them behind on certain things until they figured it out, but I'm not going to make it easy for them if they unceremoniously dump me like they did this guy.
That is why when a person holding such a position is dismissed it is usual for that person to be escorted out of the building and not permitted to return to their desk. This person has stolen and/or destroyed intellectual property. Having said that the company should have had a series of secure backups so that most of the data would be saved, but the data is gone and the only hope of salvage is the person who put it there in the first place. I wouldn’t hire him.
The boss didn’t know his daughter. She wasn’t qualified, either, and certainly not ready to lead a department. Her father made a mistake putting her in charge of that department. Her father was not a good leader either. A good business owner and leader knows and meets with employees regularly. The incident of Alex being fired without good reason should never have happened. The motive of the boss’s daughter - seeing Alex as an obstacle rather than the department's best asset - reveals her lack of management skills and should have disqualified her from the position her father gave her. A well-run business would not have allowed any employee to wipe years of research from the company’s computer. No matter the ending, this was primarily a story of a spiteful, insecure female and a vengeful male.
A bad fake story. Business does not work like this. If you leave a job and destroy data or equipment or paper records you will definitely be sued. And, you can't destroy a business and expect job offers from anyone.
It's already been mentioned in several other replies that it's not clear if he signed an intellectual property agreement or not. It is perfectly legal to destroy your own work product if they did not, and remember, many workplaces are incompetent. Not all, but too many.
@@joshuacr That is absolutely false. You don't need to sign an agreement for your work to be considered owned by the company. Absent any agreement to the contrary, they obviously own it - it's what you're getting paid for. Typically when you sign agreements on the topic, it covers work done in related areas regardless of when you do it. Then there's no argument about whether you were on the clock or not when working on something.
There is the issue of intellectual property. That usually would belong to the company so Alex might be open to prosecution. His colleagues we all compromised too, his supposed "family".
Depending on his contract things can go either way. They did say remove your stuff when leaving but this enters legal ownership. If he can get away with the deletion then go for it. I can be that petty.
If I could do something like that and know I could get away with it, Yes I would definitely do it. Some people on a power trip need to learn. As far as how it affected his coworkers, I didn’t see any thing in the story where any of them supported him. Oh well. Tough luck.
Female FBI Agent: Looks like I must go undercover as Alex's Janssen Designs female executive wearing a short pink, short sleeve dress and Mary Jane shoes with no pantyhose. I must investigate at Janssen Designs finding out what all the suspicion is going on at the company. I must get my FBI camcorder and voice recording devices immediately!
That is so funny. First is the computer backup system. If the data was mirrored on another server that is likely to be an easy recovery. If you have an IT department which I would suspect the sort of company indicated here there would have been a back up service that would have included all the documents no matter what. So even if you delete everything it is often just sitting there waiting to be reinstated. If you think deleting things is the solution then big business has a means to put it back the day after you remove it! When I got kicked out of my IT job I had a magnificent method to wipe out every single server right across the entire company that would have occurred late at night automatically and would have resulted in everything including the entire server operating system of all servers. One line in a tiny little piece of code that would have also removed the evidence as it went. But being a decent sort of IT specialist I didn't do it. But back all those years ago it would have cost the company multiple millions and probably taken a month to put right.
If he was a salaried employee, what he did was unethical at best, and probably illegal. If he was a private contractor, then his files could have belonged to him depending on his contract with the company.
The management was at fault for putting a family member in a management position that had a chip on her shoulder, letting a very smart person to slip away that was saving the company, I know because it happen to me!
In a way if I’m being honest it’s a bit of both, but in terms of business this shows how businesses don’t run if you did wipe everything including data you’d be sued and you wouldn’t get job offers afterwords
first off, i would have had a small portable hard drive that i could hookup and make backups of my own work for myself. God forbid the company server crash and loose data. I would have just connected my HDD, backed up all files, deleted the ones on the mainframe, walked out, apply to a competitor, and take my files with me. If i did not sign a Non-compete, NDA, or Intellectual Property waiver.. those files are MY Intellectual Property, and i would use them at the competitors company.
You misread the red flags, time to update your resume. Also meditate, came here looking for a job, it has ended, there is another job with my name on it. I dont know if I would have deleted the database. I understand his anger, however, Ms Smartie pants thought she didnt need the old info and wanted him gone. In the real world, the 1st thing done is removing your computer access when you are being let go.
Too bad what Alex did was actually illegal and he could face criminal fines or even jail time. Work you do 'at work and get paid to do' is legally work product owned by the business. While the story is funny and has some vengeance to it this is not how you should act. Same thing happened at my work. Sales guy quit and deleted everything and the company went after him legally.
I knew of my supervisor put a virus on his laptop and just it was destroyed. Nothing happened to him. It would not even power up again. So he was untouchable even in being terminated from employment. So sometimes people can get away with certain things.
He didn't just eff over his former boss. He effed over his former co-workers. I doubt that any of them would have been so welcoming if they had known *he* was the one who did the effing over. If a proper investigation had been done, I wonder how many of those job offers would have continued. This story was highly disappointing
And then everybody clapped. (Look, this reads like a literary fiction of how you wanted something to happen and be the one who was right. I have no problem being wrong if this happened to be a place that didn't have a contract for owning your work product and somehow doesn't backup their data. But I would need to hear this from Dr. Helen Jameson herself to believe it, assuming that person in this field really exists, which I don't.)
all the work he did was his so what he erased from his comp was his if him being let go was that easy it shouldnt have made a differance if he was there or not it shound have kept moving 4ward like well oiled machine
I a person watched with wide eyes a youtube AI video with monotone narrator. Bold video of office exploits is very humane. Me a person watching nicely such a video is very amusing.
He committed a crime, he would have been in legal trouble. Besides IT saves data everyday for at least a year, whatever he deleted would be saved in archive. Unless he works in IT too he wouldn't able be able to delete them too.
What Alex did was wrong, and if it got out that he was the one who wiped all those files, not one company would hire him. He has proven what he is capable of and no company would take that chance. I think what he did could be a prosecutable offense.
Most of them aren't well done either. This one at least was coherent and had a reasonably logical flow in the plot and the AI narration was better than a lot of them. But the bar is very low for the fake AI stories, most of which are just fantasies cobbled together and usually don't make sense or jump around all over the place. 4/10 at best, but among its peers 7/10.
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She was quite clear she did not want any of his "old technology, etc." That she was going in a new direction and his stuff was not part of it So yeah, he got rid of his "old technology) I am not certain it was the right thing to do however since he was paid for all that work and technically, the company owned it. I'm sure if the company sued, he would lose
That takes time by that time they could go bust 🤪🤪🤪
Carol definitely "blew" her way to the top !
Well he wanted it cleaned so he answered!🤣
The question is, can he get in trouble because of what he has done?
@ considering the circumstances no
@Sharingan1989 actually, everything he has created for the firm belongs to the firm. That includes everything he deleted. So, yes, he could be punished for deleting company property. A real architectural firm would have multiple copies of everything , though, so this would not happen in a real world setting. He could have sued for wrongful termination as she had no reason to terminate him. Instead he chose to bring down the company to get back at the woman who he felt got the job he should have had. Idiots abound in this story.
Malicious compliance at its finest.
@@michelehenne2477AI lacks the nuances of how real life is.
What I didn't hear was whether they had him sign anything declaring that anything produced by him while employed by the company were the intellectual property of said company. If he did, then the company would have legal recourse because deleting company data would be a crime. I know when I got my job they made me sign an intellectual property agreement. And I also agree that any company worth its salt should have been able to restore the deleted files from backup. And even if everything was "tied to his account" they should have IT security measures to recover it regardless - after all the account did not belong to him, it belonged to the company. So not having effective control over those three things is shame on that company.
My thinking exactly. The story was written by someone who conveniently ignored the legal reality that underlies ALL this intellectual property stuff. All. Of. It.
Perfect analysis and 1,000% correct. Even without signing an IP agreement, work created while “on the click” is normally company property, especially if that work product was the result of Alex’ job duties.
I thought the same thing. He could not only be sued, but he would be locked up for years.
This is why they escort you right to the door when they fire you.
I'm pretty sure those files, unless Alex had a clause in his contract that stated he was the sole owner of said files, were the intellectual property of the company. If that was the case, he should and in the US would have been sued for the recovery of those files.
Alex only deleted his work and info. The bare bones were still there.
This was not in the U.S.
I really expected that he would have had a back up of all those files and was going to step in and "save the day" getting Carol's job in the process.
lorriecartier9903,sounds like a spiteful person.
I don't know if it was right for what Alex did or not but I don't blame him. Carol wanted him out so he did as he was told.
Yep, fight fir with fire….
He could've sued for unjust termination or for loss of income.
I still don't understand if Alex got his old job back.
Depending on where he worked, it could have been an "At Will" state meaning they could fire him if they didn't like the weather that day and there would be nothing he could do about it.
Why didn't they make this story so the boss deleted the files? It feels like that would have been a better plot line and fits in better with the impact of the missing files in the story.
I think we have all worked with someone like "Daddy's Girl". A person who gets the top job based on pure nepotism.
The company has no loyalty and co-workers are not your family.
There is a great song line, "I'm gonna burn down the house and leave by the light of fire."
Carol should have been fired the moment she fired the person who did most of the work from them
With a decent system backup program in place they could have gone back and recovered the files from an older version. If they don't have a system in place or if they do have a system in place and no one knows about it or how to recover with it that looks like more incompetence. Of course there is the possibility that the data management knew but didn't like what had happened so they just stood back and let the place go up in flames.
In my state IT department, we did backups of backups. Daily/ weekly/ monthly/ annual backups. This situation could not have happened.
@@lancerevell5979 This whole story is bull crap
His account would have been deleted by the system admin in time anyway. They probably didn’t realize they need to just deactivate by carol’s authorization. I was a sys admin and as soon as the paperwork is put in the system we had to delete unless it came from management to just deactivate
A draftsman's Job is to convey information without alteration to others in the future after he is long dead . Never erase data.
The boss is an idiot!
Any Company allowing the essential data beeing sabotaged without proper backup doesn't deserve to sustain in business.
Any employee however mistreated should be held responsible when executing such an act of sabotage.
Not because of the company'S survival but the coworker's jobs he willingly endangered in a massive way..
Jealousy is a wrong reason. To fire anyone
and yet it happens all the time. Petty annoyances are not a reason to terminate anyone.
@@DebraStoute-y7ntrue 🤡🤡🤡
Someone suggested a name for this genre: "Candy floss stories."
I believe "BullShit and More BullShit" stories would be a better name.
I have back ups of everything I create on a thumb drive in case anything goes haywire I have that to restore. That said, They are my creations, my templates, my process docs. If I leave the company like this guy, those are going too.
They are the only notes on how to do parts of my job that no one else knows how to do but me. Things *I* had to figure out and noted them as part of the process to refer back to if needed. If someone had to figure it out from scratch, they could do it eventually, but it would be months of trial and error and them not knowing the nuances of what works and you have to do x before y, or you have to run x report to get z data.
So at best, by my taking my creations, it would be an inconvenience to them, but wouldn't break the company just put them behind on certain things until they figured it out, but I'm not going to make it easy for them if they unceremoniously dump me like they did this guy.
That is why when a person holding such a position is dismissed it is usual for that person to be escorted out of the building and not permitted to return to their desk. This person has stolen and/or destroyed intellectual property. Having said that the company should have had a series of secure backups so that most of the data would be saved, but the data is gone and the only hope of salvage is the person who put it there in the first place. I wouldn’t hire him.
The boss didn’t know his daughter. She wasn’t qualified, either, and certainly not ready to lead a department. Her father made a mistake putting her in charge of that department. Her father was not a good leader either. A good business owner and leader knows and meets with employees regularly. The incident of Alex being fired without good reason should never have happened. The motive of the boss’s daughter - seeing Alex as an obstacle rather than the department's best asset - reveals her lack of management skills and should have disqualified her from the position her father gave her. A well-run business would not have allowed any employee to wipe years of research from the company’s computer. No matter the ending, this was primarily a story of a spiteful, insecure female and a vengeful male.
so be it if carol want his desked clean by the end of the day!
A bad fake story. Business does not work like this. If you leave a job and destroy data or equipment or paper records you will definitely be sued. And, you can't destroy a business and expect job offers from anyone.
You will be accused regardless
U'd B Surprised by How Many have done just that to tyrannikkkal imbecile$ that try to Dominate their Workforce underlings!!! LOL 🤣
It's already been mentioned in several other replies that it's not clear if he signed an intellectual property agreement or not. It is perfectly legal to destroy your own work product if they did not, and remember, many workplaces are incompetent. Not all, but too many.
Very true.
What one created when in employment with an organization remains the property of the organization concerned.
@@joshuacr That is absolutely false. You don't need to sign an agreement for your work to be considered owned by the company. Absent any agreement to the contrary, they obviously own it - it's what you're getting paid for. Typically when you sign agreements on the topic, it covers work done in related areas regardless of when you do it. Then there's no argument about whether you were on the clock or not when working on something.
There is the issue of intellectual property. That usually would belong to the company so Alex might be open to prosecution. His colleagues we all compromised too, his supposed "family".
SHE TOOK HIS JOB!!
She took our JERRRRRBS!!!
Depending on his contract things can go either way. They did say remove your stuff when leaving but this enters legal ownership. If he can get away with the deletion then go for it. I can be that petty.
If I could do something like that and know I could get away with it, Yes I would definitely do it. Some people on a power trip need to learn. As far as how it affected his coworkers, I didn’t see any thing in the story where any of them supported him. Oh well. Tough luck.
Female FBI Agent: Looks like I must go undercover as Alex's Janssen Designs female executive wearing a short pink, short sleeve dress and Mary Jane shoes with no pantyhose. I must investigate at Janssen Designs finding out what all the suspicion is going on at the company. I must get my FBI camcorder and voice recording devices immediately!
That is so funny. First is the computer backup system. If the data was mirrored on another server that is likely to be an easy recovery. If you have an IT department which I would suspect the sort of company indicated here there would have been a back up service that would have included all the documents no matter what. So even if you delete everything it is often just sitting there waiting to be reinstated. If you think deleting things is the solution then big business has a means to put it back the day after you remove it! When I got kicked out of my IT job I had a magnificent method to wipe out every single server right across the entire company that would have occurred late at night automatically and would have resulted in everything including the entire server operating system of all servers. One line in a tiny little piece of code that would have also removed the evidence as it went. But being a decent sort of IT specialist I didn't do it. But back all those years ago it would have cost the company multiple millions and probably taken a month to put right.
If he was a salaried employee, what he did was unethical at best, and probably illegal. If he was a private contractor, then his files could have belonged to him depending on his contract with the company.
The management was at fault for putting a family member in a management position that had a chip on her shoulder, letting a very smart person to slip away that was saving the company, I know because it happen to me!
In a way if I’m being honest it’s a bit of both, but in terms of business this shows how businesses don’t run if you did wipe everything including data you’d be sued and you wouldn’t get job offers afterwords
first off, i would have had a small portable hard drive that i could hookup and make backups of my own work for myself. God forbid the company server crash and loose data. I would have just connected my HDD, backed up all files, deleted the ones on the mainframe, walked out, apply to a competitor, and take my files with me. If i did not sign a Non-compete, NDA, or Intellectual Property waiver.. those files are MY Intellectual Property, and i would use them at the competitors company.
You misread the red flags, time to update your resume. Also meditate, came here looking for a job, it has ended, there is another job with my name on it. I dont know if I would have deleted the database. I understand his anger, however, Ms Smartie pants thought she didnt need the old info and wanted him gone. In the real world, the 1st thing done is removing your computer access when you are being let go.
Not always have it seen people sabotage at least the company issued computer they had on their last day in the building before getting escorted out.
Too bad what Alex did was actually illegal and he could face criminal fines or even jail time. Work you do 'at work and get paid to do' is legally work product owned by the business. While the story is funny and has some vengeance to it this is not how you should act. Same thing happened at my work. Sales guy quit and deleted everything and the company went after him legally.
If they say clean your desk that’s what I would do 🤡🤡🤡
It's a good job it's fake then! 🤣
I knew of my supervisor put a virus on his laptop and just it was destroyed. Nothing happened to him. It would not even power up again. So he was untouchable even in being terminated from employment. So sometimes people can get away with certain things.
He didn't just eff over his former boss. He effed over his former co-workers. I doubt that any of them would have been so welcoming if they had known *he* was the one who did the effing over. If a proper investigation had been done, I wonder how many of those job offers would have continued. This story was highly disappointing
If he crafted the projects if feel he had ever right to delete them
And then everybody clapped.
(Look, this reads like a literary fiction of how you wanted something to happen and be the one who was right. I have no problem being wrong if this happened to be a place that didn't have a contract for owning your work product and somehow doesn't backup their data. But I would need to hear this from Dr. Helen Jameson herself to believe it, assuming that person in this field really exists, which I don't.)
I need a team that will follow me into bankruptcy.
How do we know it's an AI story? "Palpable" multiple times. 😅
"The air was thick with gravy: we were swimming in it."
You didn’t need to take that bosses Crap
I love people who spout industry buzzwords. Been hearing them for decades. Yadda Yadda Yadda. 😅😅😅
If your boss fires you and then tells you to clean before you leave and you, do you really stupid
all the work he did was his so what he erased from his comp was his if him being let go was that easy it shouldnt have made a differance if he was there or not it shound have kept moving 4ward like well oiled machine
palpable three times in less than ten minutes. Please get a thesaurus ❤️
Better explain what a "Thesaurus" is. This is RUclips, you know!!!!
Any company I have been at your 1st clue you been canned is your login codes don’t work.
He destroyed files that belonged to Company. doesn't this company have backups. How did he destroy the backups this sounds a little far-fetched
So apparently you know everything about everything?
Just asking.
Alex’s files, Alex’s work. Seemed fair to me.
I a person watched with wide eyes a youtube AI video with monotone narrator. Bold video of office exploits is very humane. Me a person watching nicely such a video is very amusing.
‘Piqued’, not ‘peaked’.
Yes I do
Deleting was too much. He should have copied first.
I would have done the same as Alex - no doubt!
palpable.........the NEW AI buzzword, hint nobody tals like this, LOL
These stories are all fake, entertaining certainly. I cannot fathom that people believe them.
Is that real
Alex has no right to delete files. They belong to the company. He should be sued.
Chatgpt and vyond
He committed a crime, he would have been in legal trouble. Besides IT saves data everyday for at least a year, whatever he deleted would be saved in archive. Unless he works in IT too he wouldn't able be able to delete them too.
What Alex did was wrong, and if it got out that he was the one who wiped all those files, not one company would hire him. He has proven what he is capable of and no company would take that chance. I think what he did could be a prosecutable offense.
The fictional stories are well done, but full of holes
Most of them aren't well done either. This one at least was coherent and had a reasonably logical flow in the plot and the AI narration was better than a lot of them. But the bar is very low for the fake AI stories, most of which are just fantasies cobbled together and usually don't make sense or jump around all over the place. 4/10 at best, but among its peers 7/10.
She can’t fire you for no real reason and it’s a lawsuit for doing it