This was a fantastic watch. I always viewed Franziska as a tragic character the writers didn’t properly acknowledge due to the whip bits they overuse with her. She had her whole life molded by a father with a psychotic obsession with perfection and who wanted her to basically be a clone of him. It really makes you wonder if she really wanted to be a prosecutor or if she only walked this path to gain his approval and love. Considering many things about Manfred’s character as shown in every game he has appeared in, it’s definitely the latter.
Yeah, it's definite that she became a prosecutor only because of the shoes she had to fill as the daughter of such a legendary prosecutor (plus the constant "expectations" everyone had of her that she tells us about at the end of JFA). She had tons of potential. I wish we had seen her get some more decisive character development than have her devolve into a simple slapstick comedy duo with Gumshoe :/
Wait so... if she only walked his path to gain his approval and love, think about her relationship with Edgeworth, who actually wanted to be a prosecutor. She must have felt even more threatened by him, because he was the only one of von Karma's 'children' that was as driven about prosecuting as he was, albeit in a different way.
@@debastiansebeste Slight problem with that is that Von Karma has another daughter who isn't a prosecutor, so it's obvious he doesn't exactly just forcing his children to become prosecutors as well. In fact I'd say Miles is more to blame than Von Karma. She respected Miles as a brother and when she saw the praise he was getting from Von Karma she probably chose, on her own, that she wanted to become a prosecutor as well.
it would be kind of funny if in a future game you have to go to her apartment and the whole place is full of manga she draws or some interesting hobby.
Franziska deciding to find closure with her father by having Maya channel him so she can tell him off instead of, like, going to therapy is just about the most Franziska thing she could ever do lol. Genuinely though this is such a great scene, I love the comedic bookends and how you really delve into Franziska’s character in what, to me, feels like a perfect conclusion to the way her arc went in Investigations 2. Nice work!
i never actually realized the parallels between franziska and sebastian, guess you learn something new every day but i can tell you one thing, franziska is the azula and edgeworth is the zuko of ace attorney
Never thought of it that way but I love this parallel. At least Franziska did turn over a new leaf in her life unlike Azula who went down as a baddie :(
LET'S GO finally someone acknowledging Manfred's theme from the anime, it suits him perfectly as this menace he is in The Inherited Turnabout and Turnabout Goodbyes
@@anthonydeadman I've finished TGAA some time now, but I'm currently trying to finish TGAA2. I'm in the mid of case 4 now. It's taking me a long time because of my military service unfortunately
@@debastiansebeste Well first off, I thank you for your service and I wish you the best in getting through it until December. o7 Secondly, I think I've made it a little too obvious that it's only today, I've become a big fan of your work. Been binge watching it non-stop and I'm throughly impressed with how much passion and creativity you put in it while keeping the balance of the lore of the AA world and it's characters intact in the process and all while still in the middle of your military service no less. That's absolutely impressive and worthy of respect from many. So from one passionate Ace Attorney fan to another I say, keep up the great work both inside and outside of the community and I look forward to what you have in store going forward given I just subscribed. ^_^
2nd Comment: I always hated Franziska but after seeing this and knowing how Sebastian was treated, she suffered a lot because of Manfred. In fact, everyone suffered because of HIM. Having a terrible father can change who you are and make you a monster, I still don't completely like her, but you gave me sympathy points for her seeing as how she suffers (or at least now suffered) in silence. Good job Debastian. Bravo.
Yeah, Franziska did grow up in a terrible family environment with a terrible person as a father figure and someone to look up to. Good thing she didn't turn into a murderer like him too tbh. Thanks for the analysis and your kind words mate! 😁
Idk if you've seen the anime but Franziska is a lot softer around the edges and more likeable than in the games. I also didn't like her much in the trilogy.
@@Topaz_Estrella The anime was great in how it showed that whole family. Manfred was depicted in a nuanced fashion, rather than just the unapologetic evil he is in the games.
Kay: "So you pretended you'd arrest us, just to scare us and laugh with us? That's a twisted and sadistic sense of humor you have prosecutor!" Franziska: "...I whip people for fun. this is known!" also I'm pretty sure, that she'd known about sprit channeling since her first bout with phoenix, given that she presented the photo phoenix's private chat with Mia to the court, and her "glad to see you're in such good "spirits" Ms. Fey" comment also, Maya accidently summoning Van Zieks made me laugh so Hard.
Ngl, I'm in love with your videos. I love how high efforted it is and it especially feels in character. I like Franzy already but this makes me love her more. Ngl I wish she got more screentime and development. I also like how similar Maya and Franz are. They seem like polar opposites but they do share similarities like having f-ed up families, leading a name (Maya being the master and Franz leading the von Karma name). I honestly wish they get more interactions and them being friends. Anyways, I love your videos, it brings amazing depth into the characters. And van Zieks LITERALLY surprised me. 😁
I agree full about Maya and Franziska and their similarities, and I hate that the two barely even interacted in the main games. Much wasted potential on a possible friendship of the two there :/ Thanks for your kind words! :D
Imma be honest, my first interaction with the Ace Attorney Universe was Felix White, the most legendary defense attorney of'em all. After, I went straight to the anime and honestly, it wasn't as bad as most ppl say. It further explained some things and answered some questions the games had left unanswered. But that theme... what the hell. I wish they had used a variation of that theme for him in the games, it fits him so well. And about the video itself... Manfred deserved that. Franziska went up a few ranks in my Ace Attorney character tier list because of what she did to her garbage father. This is part of my headcanon fr
@@George-iz2ce xD tbh the anime's first season that I've watched had some terribly animated moments and left crucial stuff out that I hated (such as Dee Vazquez's reason for treating Jack Hammer the way she did). I've heard it gets better at season 3 but I haven't got there yet. Nevertheless, despite the plot and animation issues at least it had amazing voice acting and music
I am here for Franziska's character development! Honestly, idk why the idea that Franziska is just as much of a victim of Manfred's machinations as Miles was took so long to come to light. She most likely wasn't born so cold and mean, she was made to be like that, her lashing out (literally and metaphorically), were probably the only way she could express herself. Also Manfred's typical narcissistic patterns (deflecting fault, refusing to acknowledge his own mistakes, making anyone the enemy when their tactics dont work, etc. is classic NPD) obviously would have affected Franziska very badly growing up in that. Even his reason for why he was so hard on her is pure selfishness, and he immeditaely dismisses her objections as failures on her part when she won't play his game. Good for her getting closure, now onto therapy with the rest of the cast!
don't use a mental illness as a description for a shitty person. that's a really fucked up thing to do, none of those are traits of npd, they're traits of being a bad person, just because someone's a bad person doesn't mean they're mentally ill
I was at the edge of my seat the entire video MAN THIS WAS SO GOOD. it felt like I was watching a full-fledged drama show. And the ending joke? IT WAS HILARIOUS
Gosh I love this-- Franziska finally gets to tell off her father for being the sick and obsessed man that he was! (Of course the ending is great too pfpff)
She was forced to start prosecuting when she was 13, another victim of manfred’s vicious scheme’s… I’m glad that corrupted man is dead, he only cares about getting a guilty verdict, not to uncover the truth… all for the sake of perfection. Thank you Miles Edgeworth for saving everyone 15 years later
Franziska is DEBEST... oh wait... The moment the 2009 truth theme played, after the scene switches to Sebastian and goes back to Franziska, WOW... the tears, and the hard facts and surreal dialogue from her... This is the best I've seen from her in all the games, and probably the most emotionally engaging scene compared to any in them, breaking every barrier.
You're always on the good things here. However, 3 years after Von Karma's death, I wonder if Maya is still here with Phoenix, as he was normally disbared, and she was in training in Kurain village, or Khur'ain. Anyway, good work!
Well, Manfred was said to have died some time in prison, between December 2016 and February 2019, so for my headcanon I put his death during 2016 and this vid right before Phoenix's disbarment. (That's why Franziska says "nearly three years", so I could have some vagueness and freedom in his time of death 😉)
Lmao Karuma and Kazuma being that similar? You might be onto something here. But I thought Kazuma is a defense attorney? I haven't played beyond sergeant Nosa's testimony yet so I don't know much details of TGAA
@@debastiansebeste what i actually meant was to have a convo between Franziska and Kazuma Asogi, who mentions he *had* a heirloom katana named Karuma. Kazuma also mentions how one of his father's subordinates named themself after the sword itself. (its canon) so that makes Franziska wonder if that could be her ancestor or something just a thought lol, hope it clears things up
@@debastiansebeste oh damn, i didnt realise you havent finished it good thing i didn't provide any major spoilers and i highly recommend you play it, its like they used the trilogy formula but evolved it to its finest
@@aarava1176 yeah I've only played up until sergeant Nosa's testimony (stopped because I decided to finish DD and SoJ first). But, even though I've played that little I'm already in love with the game (animations, 3d models, dialogues, everything seems to be perfect :D)
Damn This was a great vid. I'm glad we got to see Maya and Kay interact too. A Franziska-oriented vid is awesome too. Overall, I'd have to give this a yoy/10.
Man, seeing you do these gets me in the mood to start doing some lols again myself. I stopped doing them at some point, mainly because I wasn't a fan of my writing style in the past, and I deleted most of my videos. But I think I've improved since then, and seeing your videos has really put me in the mood to start doing them again. Thank you very much! In terms of the video, I feel like you really captured a general idea of getting closure by talking to a terrible parent one last time is like. Good job!
Holy shit this was amazing. From Franziska catching them to her tears and her smacking the absolute dog shit out of Manfred (both verbally and physically).
It would be interesting, but it will probably never come as it would require new from-scratch sprites and I would never settle for the sprites of another character xD
I'm impressed by this video writing, I can imagine pretty this scene in the games and the characters were top notch, another shame it's not canon, would love seeing franziska redemption
Takumi truly blew that one by sidelining Franziska, she had too much potential to spend the whole trilogy and Edgeworth duology entirely as the slapstick comedy medium
@@debastiansebeste Main series I kind of get, you don't want to have the same antagonist again and again for a game like Ace Attorney But there's no excuse for the Investigation games to skip on her like that
Honestly, I now wonder about the potential what if of "What if Manfred killed Blaise and not Gregory for the penalty?" Though granted, it is probably not too interessting. In a lot of ways, it probably mirrors the "what if he didn't shoot anyone?"-what if without too many extras.(I guess Manfed probably has to be stealthier about his illegal methods tho because he just removed the guy who usually covered for him) 10:28 Franziska:"I only whip my enemies from now on. And you, Kay. You have chosen to become my enemy!"
Hell yes, Franzy getting the proper respect and empathy she deserves! Manfred Von Karma was a monster and the fact that Franziska didn’t end up a criminal prosecutor like him and achieved a perfect record through fully legitimate means (and yes, the stunt she pulled with showing the picture of Maya channeling Mia in the detention center is *technically* legal as far as we know, and even in real life it’s literally the prosecutions job to tell their witnesses what parts of their testimony to leave out to maintain the strength of their initial conviction) is a testament to her strength of character, even if she can be a little… aggressive. Nothing some therapy couldn’t fix *burst into laughter* yeah, like that’d ever happen. Also, *love* seeing the parallels get drawn between Franzy and Sebby, those two are way more similar than I would have thought and I honestly kind of teared up when you had Franzy flashback to Seb taking down Blaise. That moment really is the peak of AAI 2 in my opinion, the rest of that final case kiiiiiinda drags and does not have nearly the same emotional core to it, and as a result is not nearly as satisfying despite Simon Keyes being a pretty stellar villain.
Iirc, it's mentioned by Phoenix to Franziska in Justice for All that Manfred died after some time in prison (no details are provided by the game though)
@@welon17 found the citation. (He had a perfect win record for 40 long years... But now, he is gone from this world...) Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations. Capcom. Episode: Bridge to the Turnabout (in English). 2007.
ngl,all this time i've been imagining franziska getting instantly disbarred in the first ever time she used her whip against someone in the courtroom in JFA for physical assault
𝘼 𝙣𝙚𝙬 𝙤𝙥𝙥𝙤𝙣𝙚𝙣𝙩 𝙖𝙥𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙖𝙘𝙝𝙚𝙨! Seriously though , good job. I was waiting for a video regarding the menace himself to appear. Keep doing what you do best !
To be fair, in both of my vids where Manfred appears (this and the one with his penalty) I have him getting completely owned (by Franziska and Blaise respectively), so you could say I haven't made him live up to his name yet 😂
wait since when Franziska has a Sister they never showed her at all in ace attorney series or ever mentioned at all or I'd think I missed that part so I'd like to hear about this Cause I tought Franziska is only child to manfred von karma
Manfred had mentioned in PW:AA that in 2016 he had a granddaughter who was 5 yo(?). At the time Franziska was 14-15, so it's generally accepted that Franziska has a much older sibling. And the general consensus among the fanbase is that that sibling is a sister, so I just rolled with it :p
@@debastiansebeste I see altough it would've been awsome if you made a video about a Full Trial of Jeffrey Masters you did made similiar to Aftermaths but I'd curious how the trial would've went Gregory Edgeworth and his assistant Raymond Shields Facing Manfred Von Karma in court now that would be awsome
In her canon iteration, she kinda (very questionable) reformed to find the “perfect” truth instead of a perfect record. While it is kind of okay for her arc to go that way, and that her whippings are just because she is hot-blooded, this vid is way more satisfying to progress her character arc. In fact, I even pitied Manfred. Because I still hold the belief that nobody would become this obsessed and psychotic at birth. I pitied that he never found the most important things in from of him which is a family. Instead he chased after a concept that is the anti-thesis of being human. Perfection. I pity Manfred for having something so many dream of. And wasted it for a mere undefeated record. As for Franziska, I still hope she will make her future appearances in the franchise with actual character development. Even if her gimmick still had to rely on finding the PERFECT truth.
Eh, it's possible he was born murderous. Psychopathy is a born condition. In rare cases, young children have committed cold-blooded murder. It's entirely possible that three or four year old Manfred was still a vicious psychopath who... I dunno, could have intentionally brutally killed a baby sibling of his in their crib. But it's also possible that he was just a normal (but probably abused, the entire VK family gives generational trauma vibes and physical abuse of children was very common in the 1950s, I wouldn't be surprised if his father beat the hell out of him daily) little kid before he was twisted into a monster by his relentless pursuit of perfection.
can you also make a video about Miles and Raymond having discussion with Gregory Edgeworth similiar to like that it would really awsome to see trio bein reunited afterall Miles is the son of Gregory and Raymond is the apprentice and a assistant to Gregory
Man, this was so well-written! It's like the completion of Franziska's... Well, not exactly redemption arc, but this was still really good! Think maybe you could cover how Aura Blackquill's trial went? All we know is that she's in prison, her brother was looking for someone to defend her (there's no way The Wright Agency would after what she did), and no one mentioned her again.
HAHAHAHA, BAROK VAN ZICKS KILLED ME- Ahem, alright Scenario is so good! Makes you think about the tragedy and pettiness of Manfred... Even being spirit, he is just sadly perfectionist, who simply wanted be great and invincible... And I'm so sorry for Franziska:( Oh, yes Отдельное спасибо за русские субтитры!!
Well, Sebastian could definitely use some polishing, but having Edgeworth and Franziska (if she goes easy on him) as his mentors would help him in no time :D
@@debastiansebeste in all honesty edgeworth is more of a father figure to him imo. Franziska would be like a big sister to him (or something else maybe?) and just both develop and improve themselves case after case. Btw, Kay x Sebastian or Franziska x Sebastian? be honest pls
@@godzillayaz tbh I don't really ship Sebastian with someone in particular (I'm not much into ships, which you may also notice in my vids xD). But if I had to choose one of two, then definitely KayxSebastian. I dunno, they're just both kiddy and cute, pretty opposite personalities, and I believe a relationship with Franziska would be quite smothering for Sebastian (plus I prefer her as a big sis to him :p)
When i played aai2, i was impressed how Franzisca...let Sebastian to do the thing with his father. I understood that she could relate to Sebastian with daddy issues(but in other way). Sebastian was abused and used by Blaise, he wanted his praise even knowing he's an idiot for him, but he wanted to. His arc was really hard for me to realize and understand his character:( poor baby Speaking about Franzisca, it's sad for me her character was rarely shown in the second game unlike the first. I still remember how she was shocked when the truth about Manfred's lies just for "perfect record" was opened, imagine how she felt? Her own father, whom she idealized and wanted to be the same, but it's all was a lie. I still think Franzi only knew Manfred as a father, but not as a prosecutor. Since Franzi called him "papa" instead of "Father" means she had good memories about him, but which ones? Probably Manfred indeed was good as a father, but not as a prosecutor. And I'm glad that Franzi didn't close her eyes on his crimes, didn't try to run away(unlike Sebastian, but i can understand him, he's traumatized), however...i really hate how game made many characters with proper story, character developments and etc, but not with Franzisca:( her character is way interesting, she's not just "whip lady", seriously. Plus imagine living with a fact her own father killed the father of her former older brother(Miles)? I mean she really could feel really hurt, especially knowing whay Miles gone through. Franzisca is not heartless person, no matter how she tries to act strong Anyway i really like your work
P.S. I mean Manfred couldn't be the perfect father(not like Gregory definitely), but still it doesn't mean he didn't love Franzi. The thing what really makes me sad it's Manfred's behavior towards Miles in aai1:( sad Miles still respected him and tolerated this
Franziska's cry sprite yep, I took Sebastian's tear from his stingy man tear sprite and pasted it on Franziska's angry sprite frames As for Maya, I took her sprites from Project X Zone 2 and I upscaled them in Waifu2x, then animated them myself (though Maya's cry sprite is also a custom one of mine as it didn't exist in PXZ)
In the first game Von Karma mentions that he has a granddaughter old enough to talk. At the time Franziska was 14, so we can safely assume that Von Karma had an older child other than Franziska. And the fanbase generally prefers to believe that Manfred's older child is a girl :p (in other words, it's game canon that Franziska has an older sibling, but we don't canonically know if they're a brother or a sister)
Ugh I've seen it and while I was writing this vid I was constantly thinking "Don't forget that Manfred is wearing Maya's clothes throughout this whole vid" xD
The obsession of perfection is what make Manfred turn into a devil.If it wasn't because of his perfect record, DL-6 Incident would not happened and Mia will be next master Fey clan. I prefer Trial and Failure instead of perfect with cheating though,as a human,perfection is what im afraid of
That's the thing, Manfred never cared about the truth. The only thing that mattered to him was an eternal and untainted record of victories. Gregory tainted that record with the penalty, and Phoenix ruined it by beating him twice. Because the objectively right thing should always prevail over subjective victory
I mean, it's not that hard. You find the whip popup, put it into one frame with the sfx and a delay of 100-200ms, then in the next frame the whack sfx with screen shake and flash.
@@debastiansebesteI think I found out where I was wrong. I used the built in Franziska not the one in the description. But there is a problem, the character doesn't work for me.
So question concerning spirit channeling in this game: Both Pearl and maya channeled Mia’s spirit at some point, at which Mia was summoned wearing either pearls or mayas garments. But when maya summons manfred here (and I know this isn’t possible due to the sprite not existing) wouldn’t he be wearing mayas clothes ? It’s either one of two things imo: Maya has upped her channeling skills OR (and this is where it gets hilarious) Manfred would be seen wearing mayas robes. Use your imagination and you’ll see why this is so funny XDDDDD
Now that you mention this I must tell you xDD I can't send you a link due to YT's shenanigans, but someone has made a fanart of Gregory Edgeworth and Manfred arguing while both being channeled by Maya and Pearl. Just write "Manfred vs Gregory Channeled" on google and it's the first image xDD
SPOILER AHEAD FOR THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY AND SPIRIT OF JUSTICE "You got arrested twice and both times Miles had to save you" Maya...how many times were YOU arrested and Phoenix saved you? At least twice . Your first meeting with him in Turnabout Sisters where you got accused of murdering your sister Mia Then there was the times in Khura'in when he saved your butt from prison and probably execution
Maya's point was that Kay had also been arrested plenty of times, so she didn't have the right to reassure Maya by telling her "don't worry we won't be arrested while I'm here" :p
@@debastiansebeste sick. I wanted to see how Miles and Gregory will react and unteract with each other for a while after dl-6, pretty much since I finished the first game I wanted to see that. I would have made one myself but I'm not good enough at writing for that at all.
@@idoshanintendo don't let anything like that drag you down. Simply write the interaction in a way that 1) would make you happy, and 2) fits the characters. And 3) most of all, have fun while making it 😉
@@Lucario1121 I don't remember exactly, but it is the reason Manfred's wiki says that he died some time between 2016 and 2019 (or something, my memory is kinda foggy rn xD)
@@debastiansebeste Oh wait I think I remember, there was a scene midway through Turnabout Bigtop that Phoenix confronts Franzika saying how what she's doing isn't going to bring her dad back, the scene where we found out that her true intention was just to one up Miles. I don't think Phoenix upfront said that Manfred died but that's probably, the closest we got to Phoenix saying as much
Lmao no this is all mine, I've made it in objection lol. All of my videos are made in Objection Lol (except the one with Sholmes' Dance of Deduction, that one is partially made in Shotcut)
THE VAN ZIEKS FAKE OUT!
I WHEEZED THAT WAS PURE GOLD!
I mean, he *is* a legendary prosecutor of the past like Manfred after all 😂
This was a fantastic watch. I always viewed Franziska as a tragic character the writers didn’t properly acknowledge due to the whip bits they overuse with her. She had her whole life molded by a father with a psychotic obsession with perfection and who wanted her to basically be a clone of him. It really makes you wonder if she really wanted to be a prosecutor or if she only walked this path to gain his approval and love. Considering many things about Manfred’s character as shown in every game he has appeared in, it’s definitely the latter.
Yeah, it's definite that she became a prosecutor only because of the shoes she had to fill as the daughter of such a legendary prosecutor (plus the constant "expectations" everyone had of her that she tells us about at the end of JFA).
She had tons of potential. I wish we had seen her get some more decisive character development than have her devolve into a simple slapstick comedy duo with Gumshoe :/
Wait so... if she only walked his path to gain his approval and love, think about her relationship with Edgeworth, who actually wanted to be a prosecutor. She must have felt even more threatened by him, because he was the only one of von Karma's 'children' that was as driven about prosecuting as he was, albeit in a different way.
@@debastiansebeste Slight problem with that is that Von Karma has another daughter who isn't a prosecutor, so it's obvious he doesn't exactly just forcing his children to become prosecutors as well. In fact I'd say Miles is more to blame than Von Karma. She respected Miles as a brother and when she saw the praise he was getting from Von Karma she probably chose, on her own, that she wanted to become a prosecutor as well.
it would be kind of funny if in a future game you have to go to her apartment and the whole place is full of manga she draws or some interesting hobby.
@@debastiansebestewhat's the soundtrack that's playing when Franziska is talking to Manfred?
Franziska deciding to find closure with her father by having Maya channel him so she can tell him off instead of, like, going to therapy is just about the most Franziska thing she could ever do lol.
Genuinely though this is such a great scene, I love the comedic bookends and how you really delve into Franziska’s character in what, to me, feels like a perfect conclusion to the way her arc went in Investigations 2. Nice work!
Franziska decided to hit the problem at its roots quite literally :p
Glad you liked it 😁
i never actually realized the parallels between franziska and sebastian, guess you learn something new every day
but i can tell you one thing, franziska is the azula and edgeworth is the zuko of ace attorney
Never thought of it that way but I love this parallel. At least Franziska did turn over a new leaf in her life unlike Azula who went down as a baddie :(
@@debastiansebeste I think there is like a storyline where Azula helps find her mother or smth. idk she becomes good after that
@@happydaysforever01
Yeah, that's in one of the comics
She becomes the main villain in that later on though.
@@debastiansebesteGood news, she finally started her redemption arc! It only took 14 years!
LET'S GO finally someone acknowledging Manfred's theme from the anime, it suits him perfectly as this menace he is in The Inherited Turnabout and Turnabout Goodbyes
Yeaah when I first heard it I was like "why have I never heard this perfection before??" I knew I had to use it somewhere xD
Shame that his theme wasn't rearrange in the Trilogy style
No one cares about it
If only sone kind of multi-channel midi exist for it...
@@debastiansebeste "Why have I never heard this *perfection* before?"
Well, played, Debastian. Well played. ❤
In a blink-and-you-miss-it moment at 4:02, Maya briefly channels Detective Gumshoe, even though he's still alive.
If you pay closer attention you can hear her quietly screaming "OBJECTION PAL"
@@debastiansebeste Oh shoot, you're right! It's barely audible but I could hear it! Gumshoe is an absolute legend.
Dude! That Barok van Zieks Part caught me off Guard lmao! Great Work! *…It does make wonder how he would Interact with Edgeworth though…*
As of right now I have no idea (I haven't played TGAA yet). But expect to see something after I do xD
@@debastiansebeste I can’t wait!
@@debastiansebeste So have you played it yet?
@@anthonydeadman I've finished TGAA some time now, but I'm currently trying to finish TGAA2. I'm in the mid of case 4 now. It's taking me a long time because of my military service unfortunately
@@debastiansebeste Well first off, I thank you for your service and I wish you the best in getting through it until December. o7
Secondly, I think I've made it a little too obvious that it's only today, I've become a big fan of your work. Been binge watching it non-stop and I'm throughly impressed with how much passion and creativity you put in it while keeping the balance of the lore of the AA world and it's characters intact in the process and all while still in the middle of your military service no less.
That's absolutely impressive and worthy of respect from many.
So from one passionate Ace Attorney fan to another I say, keep up the great work both inside and outside of the community and I look forward to what you have in store going forward given I just subscribed. ^_^
Thank you for giving us proper closure and character development of Franziska in a way that Capcom officially never will.
I genuinely appreciate it.
Glad you do, mate. Thank you 😁
2nd Comment:
I always hated Franziska but after seeing this and knowing how Sebastian was treated, she suffered a lot because of Manfred. In fact, everyone suffered because of HIM.
Having a terrible father can change who you are and make you a monster, I still don't completely like her, but you gave me sympathy points for her seeing as how she suffers (or at least now suffered) in silence.
Good job Debastian. Bravo.
Yeah, Franziska did grow up in a terrible family environment with a terrible person as a father figure and someone to look up to. Good thing she didn't turn into a murderer like him too tbh.
Thanks for the analysis and your kind words mate! 😁
Idk if you've seen the anime but Franziska is a lot softer around the edges and more likeable than in the games. I also didn't like her much in the trilogy.
@@Topaz_Estrella The anime was great in how it showed that whole family. Manfred was depicted in a nuanced fashion, rather than just the unapologetic evil he is in the games.
Kay: "So you pretended you'd arrest us, just to scare us and laugh with us? That's a twisted and sadistic sense of humor you have prosecutor!"
Franziska: "...I whip people for fun. this is known!"
also I'm pretty sure, that she'd known about sprit channeling since her first bout with phoenix, given that she presented the photo phoenix's private chat with Mia to the court, and her "glad to see you're in such good "spirits" Ms. Fey" comment
also, Maya accidently summoning Van Zieks made me laugh so Hard.
God, when she cries... Hits hard man.... Love all you videos! Looking forward to more!
Thanks mate, glad you like them 😁
Franziska finally standing up against mvk with that custom sprite has got me fucked up man...
great content, like always
Ngl, I'm in love with your videos. I love how high efforted it is and it especially feels in character. I like Franzy already but this makes me love her more. Ngl I wish she got more screentime and development. I also like how similar Maya and Franz are. They seem like polar opposites but they do share similarities like having f-ed up families, leading a name (Maya being the master and Franz leading the von Karma name). I honestly wish they get more interactions and them being friends.
Anyways, I love your videos, it brings amazing depth into the characters. And van Zieks LITERALLY surprised me. 😁
I agree full about Maya and Franziska and their similarities, and I hate that the two barely even interacted in the main games. Much wasted potential on a possible friendship of the two there :/
Thanks for your kind words! :D
@@debastiansebeste No problem, the vids are awesome. I'd beg for more Maya and Franz interactions
Imma be honest, my first interaction with the Ace Attorney Universe was Felix White, the most legendary defense attorney of'em all. After, I went straight to the anime and honestly, it wasn't as bad as most ppl say. It further explained some things and answered some questions the games had left unanswered. But that theme... what the hell. I wish they had used a variation of that theme for him in the games, it fits him so well. And about the video itself... Manfred deserved that. Franziska went up a few ranks in my Ace Attorney character tier list because of what she did to her garbage father. This is part of my headcanon fr
Least thing that Manfred deserved. Always glad to help people add stuff to their headcanons 😁
And full agree, Felix White best attorney of all time xD
The anime wasn't as bad? Kill it with fire!!
@@George-iz2ce xD tbh the anime's first season that I've watched had some terribly animated moments and left crucial stuff out that I hated (such as Dee Vazquez's reason for treating Jack Hammer the way she did). I've heard it gets better at season 3 but I haven't got there yet.
Nevertheless, despite the plot and animation issues at least it had amazing voice acting and music
OMG, YES! That was my introduction to Ace Attorney too!
@@debastiansebeste On the plus side, the anime made Turnabout Big Top actually bearable.
I am here for Franziska's character development! Honestly, idk why the idea that Franziska is just as much of a victim of Manfred's machinations as Miles was took so long to come to light. She most likely wasn't born so cold and mean, she was made to be like that, her lashing out (literally and metaphorically), were probably the only way she could express herself. Also Manfred's typical narcissistic patterns (deflecting fault, refusing to acknowledge his own mistakes, making anyone the enemy when their tactics dont work, etc. is classic NPD) obviously would have affected Franziska very badly growing up in that. Even his reason for why he was so hard on her is pure selfishness, and he immeditaely dismisses her objections as failures on her part when she won't play his game. Good for her getting closure, now onto therapy with the rest of the cast!
Franziska casually breaking her own black psyche locks of "My dad only used me for his own pursuits" after having a simple heart-to-heart with Manfred
don't use a mental illness as a description for a shitty person. that's a really fucked up thing to do, none of those are traits of npd, they're traits of being a bad person, just because someone's a bad person doesn't mean they're mentally ill
I was at the edge of my seat the entire video MAN THIS WAS SO GOOD. it felt like I was watching a full-fledged drama show.
And the ending joke? IT WAS HILARIOUS
I can imagine a follow up to this video where Franziska tells Phoenix about doing some "redemption".
And yeah, never whip a spirit channels folks!
Yeah the downside is that Maya got whipped for being the medium
The good part is that at least Manfred also felt the whip xD
it would be absolutely amazing if he did a video on franziska giving phoenix the card from jfa (idk if he already made one)
Gosh I love this-- Franziska finally gets to tell off her father for being the sick and obsessed man that he was! (Of course the ending is great too pfpff)
Manfred getting what he actually deserved all along lol
She was forced to start prosecuting when she was 13, another victim of manfred’s vicious scheme’s… I’m glad that corrupted man is dead, he only cares about getting a guilty verdict, not to uncover the truth… all for the sake of perfection. Thank you Miles Edgeworth for saving everyone 15 years later
To be fair, Phoenix and Edgeworth together brought him down
@@debastiansebeste The moment that he began his redemption in the fourth case
The catharsis is fucking real.
Much needed catharsis that I hope we'll eventually see Franziska get in the mainline games too
This Franziska feels so real ....
Franziska Von Karma' did the right thing it's no easy task to stand up to your father but it had to be done I'm proud of her
She took some much needed lessons from Sebastian 💪💪
3:54. The father of the year.
The Van Zieks fake out, and it gives us a Castlevania joke.
Nicely done.
I have never played Castlevania so I'm glad to hear I accidentally made a Castlevania joke xD
She got more character development in this fan made video than in any of the games combined 😆
Love the use of Manfred's anime theme
Franziska is DEBEST... oh wait...
The moment the 2009 truth theme played, after the scene switches to Sebastian and goes back to Franziska, WOW... the tears, and the hard facts and surreal dialogue from her...
This is the best I've seen from her in all the games, and probably the most emotionally engaging scene compared to any in them, breaking every barrier.
Best praise I could hope to read, mate. Glad you enjoyed it that much, and thank you for your kind words 😁
You're always on the good things here. However, 3 years after Von Karma's death, I wonder if Maya is still here with Phoenix, as he was normally disbared, and she was in training in Kurain village, or Khur'ain.
Anyway, good work!
Well, Manfred was said to have died some time in prison, between December 2016 and February 2019, so for my headcanon I put his death during 2016 and this vid right before Phoenix's disbarment. (That's why Franziska says "nearly three years", so I could have some vagueness and freedom in his time of death 😉)
seeing the bit with Barok, I wonder how an interaction between Kazuma (channeled) and Franziska would be like
the Karuma/(von) Karma name specifically
Lmao Karuma and Kazuma being that similar? You might be onto something here.
But I thought Kazuma is a defense attorney? I haven't played beyond sergeant Nosa's testimony yet so I don't know much details of TGAA
@@debastiansebeste what i actually meant was to have a convo between Franziska and Kazuma Asogi, who mentions he *had* a heirloom katana named Karuma.
Kazuma also mentions how one of his father's subordinates named themself after the sword itself. (its canon)
so that makes Franziska wonder if that could be her ancestor or something
just a thought lol, hope it clears things up
@@aarava1176 wow ok that sword part sounds interesting. I'll definitely look it up after I've played TGAA
@@debastiansebeste oh damn, i didnt realise you havent finished it
good thing i didn't provide any major spoilers
and i highly recommend you play it, its like they used the trilogy formula but evolved it to its finest
@@aarava1176 yeah I've only played up until sergeant Nosa's testimony (stopped because I decided to finish DD and SoJ first). But, even though I've played that little I'm already in love with the game (animations, 3d models, dialogues, everything seems to be perfect :D)
So cute franziska calling Manfred "papa", I know it sounds an absurd but I like to think he loves her and is proud in his own twisted way.
Damn
This was a great vid. I'm glad we got to see Maya and Kay interact too.
A Franziska-oriented vid is awesome too.
Overall, I'd have to give this a yoy/10.
Always yoy-licious to read your comments, mate 💪😁
@@debastiansebeste Yoy
Man, seeing you do these gets me in the mood to start doing some lols again myself. I stopped doing them at some point, mainly because I wasn't a fan of my writing style in the past, and I deleted most of my videos.
But I think I've improved since then, and seeing your videos has really put me in the mood to start doing them again. Thank you very much!
In terms of the video, I feel like you really captured a general idea of getting closure by talking to a terrible parent one last time is like. Good job!
Thanks! And keep rocking them lols if making them makes you feel happy, mate! 😉
THIS is what I had always hoped to see from a situation like this.
i hope you do one when phoenix wright meets his ancestor
I've already thought about that, and I probably will after I've played both TGAAs ;)
I'm confident in saying that every video you've made that isn't a "What If" I personally consider canon.
Comments like these help me to keep going. Thank you, mate 🙏
@@debastiansebeste No, thank you, both for these videos and your service!
Holy shit this was amazing.
From Franziska catching them to her tears and her smacking the absolute dog shit out of Manfred (both verbally and physically).
She deserved some proper closure but she disappeared after AAI2 without ever getting one :(
@@debastiansebeste Yeah because the only thing Capcom sees in her is "crazy bitch with a whip".
Such a great conclusion for a further unexplored idea in the series imo
5:08 - 5:10
Franziska: Omae wa mou shindeiru
von Karma: Nani?
Iirc I didn't even write that deliberately 😂
Imagine how funny itd be if the manfred von karma's sprites were edited to show him with maya's clothes and hair style
Someone has actually made fanart of him wearing pearl's clothes, check "Manfred vs Gregory channeled" on google xD
@@debastiansebeste lmao
I’M GONNA BREAK CHARACTER HERE BUT I NEVER EXPECTED TO SEE BAROK OUT OF ALL PEOPLE LOL
What can I say, tbf he *is* a legendary prosecutor of the past like Manfred after all 😂
8:06. Now I want a video about that sister.
It would be interesting, but it will probably never come as it would require new from-scratch sprites and I would never settle for the sprites of another character xD
@@debastiansebeste You could use some AAO characters. Oh.....sorry.
Brilliant Work!
😁
I have no regrets subscribing to this channel.
I'm more than glad you don't 😂
Now THIS is what should've been included in Justice for All.
10:12 this part got me choking in laughter.
I'm impressed by this video writing, I can imagine pretty this scene in the games and the characters were top notch, another shame it's not canon, would love seeing franziska redemption
Nice one man, keep those high quality videos going!
I loved seeing this side of Franziska
Something teased, but was never capitalized on
Takumi truly blew that one by sidelining Franziska, she had too much potential to spend the whole trilogy and Edgeworth duology entirely as the slapstick comedy medium
@@debastiansebeste Main series I kind of get, you don't want to have the same antagonist again and again for a game like Ace Attorney
But there's no excuse for the Investigation games to skip on her like that
Franziska actually needed a moment like this in the original game.
...
Brilliant.
Franziska Von Karma: A quite accurate scenario if I ever reunited with my disgrace of a father
Technically it could be less than 2 years, since he died between the beginning of JfA and the end of TaT.
PURE SATISFACTION.
@@ryanlukkarinen2603 father and daughter both having the closure they deserve :p
Honestly, I now wonder about the potential what if of "What if Manfred killed Blaise and not Gregory for the penalty?" Though granted, it is probably not too interessting. In a lot of ways, it probably mirrors the "what if he didn't shoot anyone?"-what if without too many extras.(I guess Manfed probably has to be stealthier about his illegal methods tho because he just removed the guy who usually covered for him)
10:28 Franziska:"I only whip my enemies from now on. And you, Kay. You have chosen to become my enemy!"
"Kay, you have chosen to become my enemy"
*whips Edgeworth*
Me, who always hated Franziska have never made me emotional than this scene. I felt this!
Hell yes, Franzy getting the proper respect and empathy she deserves! Manfred Von Karma was a monster and the fact that Franziska didn’t end up a criminal prosecutor like him and achieved a perfect record through fully legitimate means (and yes, the stunt she pulled with showing the picture of Maya channeling Mia in the detention center is *technically* legal as far as we know, and even in real life it’s literally the prosecutions job to tell their witnesses what parts of their testimony to leave out to maintain the strength of their initial conviction) is a testament to her strength of character, even if she can be a little… aggressive. Nothing some therapy couldn’t fix *burst into laughter* yeah, like that’d ever happen.
Also, *love* seeing the parallels get drawn between Franzy and Sebby, those two are way more similar than I would have thought and I honestly kind of teared up when you had Franzy flashback to Seb taking down Blaise. That moment really is the peak of AAI 2 in my opinion, the rest of that final case kiiiiiinda drags and does not have nearly the same emotional core to it, and as a result is not nearly as satisfying despite Simon Keyes being a pretty stellar villain.
Can I just say that I’m happy that Franziska’s sister and her niece was mentioned?
The whole Von Karma family deserved an honourable mention in this family reunion :D
I didn't even know she had a sister, but she does seem like a wine aunt ngl
5:09-5:11 Franziska: omae wa moushindeiru Manfred: Nani?!
8:50. Wow! You made that pose yourself?
Yep. I stole Sebastian's man tear and put it on Franziska's angry sprite xD
@@debastiansebeste Cool! Will you share the code?
@@5yv5k99 I've written all codes in the vid description ;)
@@debastiansebeste Thanks)
Thank you for the catharsis of Franzy beating her dad down
I _would_ be down for the character development of her easing up on the whip tho 👀
Wouldn't we all?
Glad you enjoyed it mate! 😁
Whoa... He died!? I thought he was just in prison!
Iirc, it's mentioned by Phoenix to Franziska in Justice for All that Manfred died after some time in prison (no details are provided by the game though)
@@debastiansebeste hah! I've beaten the og trilogy a bunch of times and don't remember
@@welon17 found the citation.
(He had a perfect win record for 40 long years... But now, he is gone from this world...) Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations. Capcom. Episode: Bridge to the Turnabout (in English). 2007.
ngl,all this time i've been imagining franziska getting instantly disbarred in the first ever time she used her whip against someone in the courtroom in JFA for physical assault
ruclips.net/video/gNAViViaC6M/видео.html if you wanna see Franziska get put in her place for whipping :p
This video won me over, I'm subscribed now. 😊
Thankss hope you enjoy your stay 🙏
Bruhhhhhh she channeled van zieks lmaoooo
𝘼 𝙣𝙚𝙬 𝙤𝙥𝙥𝙤𝙣𝙚𝙣𝙩 𝙖𝙥𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙖𝙘𝙝𝙚𝙨!
Seriously though , good job. I was waiting for a video regarding the menace himself to appear.
Keep doing what you do best !
To be fair, in both of my vids where Manfred appears (this and the one with his penalty) I have him getting completely owned (by Franziska and Blaise respectively), so you could say I haven't made him live up to his name yet 😂
I sense 𝗮𝗻 𝗲𝗹𝗲𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 demise.
Karma shall strike when they least expect it.
wait since when Franziska has a Sister they never showed her at all in ace attorney series or ever mentioned at all or I'd think I missed that part so I'd like to hear about this Cause I tought Franziska is only child to manfred von karma
Manfred had mentioned in PW:AA that in 2016 he had a granddaughter who was 5 yo(?). At the time Franziska was 14-15, so it's generally accepted that Franziska has a much older sibling. And the general consensus among the fanbase is that that sibling is a sister, so I just rolled with it :p
@@debastiansebeste I see altough it would've been awsome if you made a video about a Full Trial of Jeffrey Masters you did made similiar to Aftermaths but I'd curious how the trial would've went Gregory Edgeworth and his assistant Raymond Shields Facing Manfred Von Karma in court now that would be awsome
In her canon iteration, she kinda (very questionable) reformed to find the “perfect” truth instead of a perfect record. While it is kind of okay for her arc to go that way, and that her whippings are just because she is hot-blooded, this vid is way more satisfying to progress her character arc. In fact, I even pitied Manfred. Because I still hold the belief that nobody would become this obsessed and psychotic at birth. I pitied that he never found the most important things in from of him which is a family. Instead he chased after a concept that is the anti-thesis of being human. Perfection. I pity Manfred for having something so many dream of. And wasted it for a mere undefeated record. As for Franziska, I still hope she will make her future appearances in the franchise with actual character development. Even if her gimmick still had to rely on finding the PERFECT truth.
Eh, it's possible he was born murderous. Psychopathy is a born condition. In rare cases, young children have committed cold-blooded murder. It's entirely possible that three or four year old Manfred was still a vicious psychopath who... I dunno, could have intentionally brutally killed a baby sibling of his in their crib.
But it's also possible that he was just a normal (but probably abused, the entire VK family gives generational trauma vibes and physical abuse of children was very common in the 1950s, I wouldn't be surprised if his father beat the hell out of him daily) little kid before he was twisted into a monster by his relentless pursuit of perfection.
can you also make a video about Miles and Raymond having discussion with Gregory Edgeworth similiar to like that it would really awsome to see trio bein reunited afterall Miles is the son of Gregory and Raymond is the apprentice and a assistant to Gregory
I can only tell you that I do have such a vid planned for the future - sooner or later ;)
Man, this was so well-written!
It's like the completion of Franziska's...
Well, not exactly redemption arc, but this was still really good!
Think maybe you could cover how Aura Blackquill's trial went? All we know is that she's in prison, her brother was looking for someone to defend her (there's no way The Wright Agency would after what she did), and no one mentioned her again.
Tbh I'm not really interested in the Blackquills (hence why you barely see even Simon in my vids), so I honestly can't promise anything about Aura :p
HAHAHAHA, BAROK VAN ZICKS KILLED ME-
Ahem, alright
Scenario is so good! Makes you think about the tragedy and pettiness of Manfred... Even being spirit, he is just sadly perfectionist, who simply wanted be great and invincible...
And I'm so sorry for Franziska:(
Oh, yes
Отдельное спасибо за русские субтитры!!
You can thank nattiko8654 for providing me with the russian subs of their own accord :D Also glad you enjoyed the vid :)
2nd comment: ngl after this one, I can just think of Franziska and Sebastian as the Top Prosecutor Duo of Interpol XD
Well, Sebastian could definitely use some polishing, but having Edgeworth and Franziska (if she goes easy on him) as his mentors would help him in no time :D
@@debastiansebeste in all honesty edgeworth is more of a father figure to him imo. Franziska would be like a big sister to him (or something else maybe?) and just both develop and improve themselves case after case. Btw, Kay x Sebastian or Franziska x Sebastian? be honest pls
@@godzillayaz tbh I don't really ship Sebastian with someone in particular (I'm not much into ships, which you may also notice in my vids xD).
But if I had to choose one of two, then definitely KayxSebastian. I dunno, they're just both kiddy and cute, pretty opposite personalities, and I believe a relationship with Franziska would be quite smothering for Sebastian (plus I prefer her as a big sis to him :p)
@@debastiansebeste ok gotcha thx for honesty :P
I died laughing when I saw Barok Von Zeiks
bruh the ending gets me every time
When i played aai2, i was impressed how Franzisca...let Sebastian to do the thing with his father. I understood that she could relate to Sebastian with daddy issues(but in other way). Sebastian was abused and used by Blaise, he wanted his praise even knowing he's an idiot for him, but he wanted to. His arc was really hard for me to realize and understand his character:( poor baby
Speaking about Franzisca, it's sad for me her character was rarely shown in the second game unlike the first. I still remember how she was shocked when the truth about Manfred's lies just for "perfect record" was opened, imagine how she felt? Her own father, whom she idealized and wanted to be the same, but it's all was a lie. I still think Franzi only knew Manfred as a father, but not as a prosecutor. Since Franzi called him "papa" instead of "Father" means she had good memories about him, but which ones? Probably Manfred indeed was good as a father, but not as a prosecutor. And I'm glad that Franzi didn't close her eyes on his crimes, didn't try to run away(unlike Sebastian, but i can understand him, he's traumatized), however...i really hate how game made many characters with proper story, character developments and etc, but not with Franzisca:( her character is way interesting, she's not just "whip lady", seriously.
Plus imagine living with a fact her own father killed the father of her former older brother(Miles)? I mean she really could feel really hurt, especially knowing whay Miles gone through. Franzisca is not heartless person, no matter how she tries to act strong
Anyway i really like your work
P.S. I mean Manfred couldn't be the perfect father(not like Gregory definitely), but still it doesn't mean he didn't love Franzi. The thing what really makes me sad it's Manfred's behavior towards Miles in aai1:( sad Miles still respected him and tolerated this
Where did you get those Investigation-style pictures of Maya? And that crying Franziska sprite? Did you make those? They are so good!
Franziska's cry sprite yep, I took Sebastian's tear from his stingy man tear sprite and pasted it on Franziska's angry sprite frames
As for Maya, I took her sprites from Project X Zone 2 and I upscaled them in Waifu2x, then animated them myself (though Maya's cry sprite is also a custom one of mine as it didn't exist in PXZ)
@@debastiansebeste Oh, right! I keep forgetting that Phoenix and Maya were in a fighting game...
@@beterbomen 2 fighting games if you also count Marvel VS Capcom. I only wish we get them into Super Smash Bros too someday xD
Wait, Franziska and Edgeworth have a sister? Why's she never mentioned in the mainline games?
In the first game Von Karma mentions that he has a granddaughter old enough to talk. At the time Franziska was 14, so we can safely assume that Von Karma had an older child other than Franziska. And the fanbase generally prefers to believe that Manfred's older child is a girl :p (in other words, it's game canon that Franziska has an older sibling, but we don't canonically know if they're a brother or a sister)
Watching this reminded me of a picture of Maya channeling Gregory while Pearl channelled Von Karma. Extremely cursed.
Ugh I've seen it and while I was writing this vid I was constantly thinking "Don't forget that Manfred is wearing Maya's clothes throughout this whole vid" xD
Franziska whipping Manfred: *For The Motherfucking Win*
Trust me, the secret sidelines of Ace Attorney are largely made by you XD
Lmao xD
Broo, how to make pair character?
There's a function top left of OL called "Pairs"
The end 😂😭
Flashback to manfred von karma training polly the parrot not to say anything about DL-6 when
Lmfao I forgot about that
NAHH NOT THE VAN ZIEKS LMAO
YES THE VAN ZIEKS 😂
The obsession of perfection is what make Manfred turn into a devil.If it wasn't because of his perfect record, DL-6 Incident would not happened and Mia will be next master Fey clan.
I prefer Trial and Failure instead of perfect with cheating though,as a human,perfection is what im afraid of
That's the thing, Manfred never cared about the truth. The only thing that mattered to him was an eternal and untainted record of victories. Gregory tainted that record with the penalty, and Phoenix ruined it by beating him twice. Because the objectively right thing should always prevail over subjective victory
amazing vid and very emotional
also I can't be the only one that thinks Maya's objection is super annoying.
I kinda find it a bit annoying too, but at the same time I like it. I can't explain this contradiction xD
I'm interested in the way you did the whip effect. Can you tell me how? I can't seem to find a way to do it.
I mean, it's not that hard. You find the whip popup, put it into one frame with the sfx and a delay of 100-200ms, then in the next frame the whack sfx with screen shake and flash.
@@debastiansebeste Thanks
@@debastiansebesteI think I found out where I was wrong. I used the built in Franziska not the one in the description. But there is a problem, the character doesn't work for me.
@@Melafefoni2112 the whip popup should be independent from Franziska. Use it as a custom popup, not from Franziska's "shouts"
@@debastiansebeste oh, thx
So question concerning spirit channeling in this game:
Both Pearl and maya channeled Mia’s spirit at some point, at which Mia was summoned wearing either pearls or mayas garments.
But when maya summons manfred here (and I know this isn’t possible due to the sprite not existing) wouldn’t he be wearing mayas clothes ?
It’s either one of two things imo:
Maya has upped her channeling skills OR (and this is where it gets hilarious) Manfred would be seen wearing mayas robes.
Use your imagination and you’ll see why this is so funny XDDDDD
Now that you mention this I must tell you xDD
I can't send you a link due to YT's shenanigans, but someone has made a fanart of Gregory Edgeworth and Manfred arguing while both being channeled by Maya and Pearl. Just write "Manfred vs Gregory Channeled" on google and it's the first image xDD
This has to be canon. IT HAS TO BE!
It is to me xD
@@debastiansebeste Same here! It was very well done. It was still funny yet so touching and damn satisfying when Franziska whiped her jerk father.
@@Caitlyngrin glad you enjoyed it 😁
Von Karma lost all interest in his granddaughter the moment she named her dog Phoenix.
I dont know why by simple watching this it sorta cure for me.
As much as it was cure for Franziska herself 😁
@@debastiansebeste True
where are those maya sprites from??? ive never seen them before
From Project X Zone 2, upscaled and animated by me
4:56 music?
The Invincible Manfred Von Karma, from the anime
The fact that these 2 are father and daughter and they almost never interacted is a crime.
Yeah. Unfortunately when the writers came up with Franziska, Manfred was already in prison, which made an interaction difficult :(
SPOILER AHEAD FOR THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY AND SPIRIT OF JUSTICE
"You got arrested twice and both times Miles had to save you"
Maya...how many times were YOU arrested and Phoenix saved you?
At least twice .
Your first meeting with him in Turnabout Sisters where you got accused of murdering your sister Mia
Then there was the times in Khura'in when he saved your butt from prison and probably execution
This takes places before Khura'in
Maya's point was that Kay had also been arrested plenty of times, so she didn't have the right to reassure Maya by telling her "don't worry we won't be arrested while I'm here" :p
@@geenkaas6380 fair enough but outside of that he's saved her plenty of times
@@debastiansebeste eh fair enough. Point still stands tho.
Honestly I'd be reassured though. Kay is pretty crafty and clever
Sebastian I'm just saying where is Maya Fey's code? I haven't seen it in the description
Check the objection lol Discord server
@@debastiansebeste Okie dokie thanks Sebastian :)
sorry to be nit picky, but at 6:30 Manfred's name goes to Franziska for a sec 😅
I had already noticed the mistake some 8-9 months ago, but good catch xD
5:21. Can I have the link for this soundtrack? Please?😭
It's called The Invincible Manfred Von Karma, from the anime. You can find it here: ruclips.net/video/u7EDuM0UipY/видео.html
@@debastiansebeste Thanks)
@@5yv5k99 sure
Now I wish someone did this with Miles and Gregory.
It's in my "to-do" list, that's for sure 😉
@@debastiansebeste sick.
I wanted to see how Miles and Gregory will react and unteract with each other for a while after dl-6, pretty much since I finished the first game I wanted to see that.
I would have made one myself but I'm not good enough at writing for that at all.
@@idoshanintendo don't let anything like that drag you down. Simply write the interaction in a way that 1) would make you happy, and 2) fits the characters. And 3) most of all, have fun while making it 😉
@@debastiansebeste Thanks, I just don't have any good ideas, or time right now, being stuck in the military means I barely have time for anything.
@@idoshanintendo oof. Compulsory military service?
I love how the fandom just assumes Mafred is dead and not just rotting away in a jailhouse instead
@@Lucario1121 the fandom assumes nothing. Phoenix straight up says that Manfred died in prison in JfA (or T&T not sure which of the two)
@@debastiansebeste Oh he did?! I, must of missed that what did he say? :0
@@Lucario1121 I don't remember exactly, but it is the reason Manfred's wiki says that he died some time between 2016 and 2019 (or something, my memory is kinda foggy rn xD)
@@debastiansebeste Oh wait I think I remember, there was a scene midway through Turnabout Bigtop that Phoenix confronts Franzika saying how what she's doing isn't going to bring her dad back, the scene where we found out that her true intention was just to one up Miles. I don't think Phoenix upfront said that Manfred died but that's probably, the closest we got to Phoenix saying as much
Hey wait, so is this actually in one of the games? Even the wrong channeling thing? Or is it just Objection lol?
Lmao no this is all mine, I've made it in objection lol. All of my videos are made in Objection Lol (except the one with Sholmes' Dance of Deduction, that one is partially made in Shotcut)