Ryobi Called, Said We're Doing it All Wrong: Their Idea vs Real Gains
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
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So Ryobi contacted us and said we used the wrong battery, so they must be a long time fan because that's your guys' line! We throw a host of batteries at it with some surprising results, though not the type Ryobi expected. 
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*Ryobi's response* "Thank you so much for sharing this data, I will send it on to our product development team to review, this is great! I hope you have a great weekend!"
You have to hand it to Ryobi though. They want to know, they want feedback, they want to try things. There are several top household brands that have reached out to us because realistically there's something they want us to do for them, when we instead say no thanks we don't accept free stuff but nice to meet you, could you answer a few technical of these questions? crickets
KEEP UP THE FANTASTIC WORK! Never let the money boys win the reality!
Are you sure your 3AH battery is a p195? I've only heard of a p191?
@@beakerunrefined4230 Here you are www.ryobitools.com/products/details/33287175444 They stopped making em
@@TorqueTestChannel thanks, just got a new high torque, had to help the guys at home depot find it on the "no home section" of upper shelving as it had not even been put out for sale yet. Thanks for the great videos!
Hey TTC, I just picked up a brand new Earthquake XT 3/4” air impact, thanks to an open-box special for $105. I would love to send it to you to see what you make of it. Never been out of its packaging wire and still has a plastic plug in the inlet port. Would you like to? How can I go about loaning it to you?
I came for the Lithium Caviar, and stayed for the torque test.
*stayed for the Helen Keller comments. 😆
@@mmix224 golden moment
“Ryobi - Lithium Caviar” has a nice ring to it. I want that on a t-shirt. Haha
Ion caviar
Tbf, I genuinely don't think the engineers and designers themselves are the ones being dishonest, it's always marketing being marketing teams when it comes to this insanity.
100% this
Yep, you get that one random run out of 10k and the marketing team only sees that high number. They’re like, you got it to make that power once…good enough for the box. Luckily we have these guys to show us what they’re really going to do
Same in every industry. Someone comes up with some "hypothetical" measurement, or a different way to measure and give misleading numbers. Air compressors, Data storage on computers, the bandwidth ratings given, speaker output, power output on PSUs, etc.
Yup
@@TorqueTestChannel Agreed. I also wonder what the difference in cell looks like for longevity. Maybe it will be able to recharge faster without having the drawback of decreasing life at an accelerated rate. I recall reading a while ago about lithium ion batteries being able to put out more power and store more after they have 5 or 10% of their rated life in recharges. I wonder if that is what we are seeing out of the beloved 3AH battery. Maybe the 4AH needs some time to stretch its legs.
I appreciate your transparency. Also, good on the Ryobi folks paying attention to the community.
They have reps and engineers stealthing around most Facebook powertool groups
They probably just used up the surplus of the older battery.
@@MessalineApghar - The prolly have goons reading around the net. When they find something of importance, call the engineers over. Seems to be a waste to pay an engineer salary to read the net....
They all listen. Most just keep quiet and the others do raise their complaints, but their managers squash them.
You may not know it, but you are changing the industry with this channel. It won’t be long before these companies start advertising real numbers.
Honest testing and reviews will have an impact no doubt. People want real numbers
Most people buy due to marketing, not reality unfortunately. The consumer base is so large these days that companies can care a lot less than they used to.
Of course he he knows it. Many of the companies send him stuff to get his feedback.
The rate of industry change on reporting real numbers will be proportional to the number of subscribers and popularity of this channel. If this channel toiled in obscurity, nothing would change. Nearly 1/2 million subscribers to a tool channel focused on objective data? Well that’s a HUGE deal.
So happy these guys are here doing this and keeping the industries feet to the fire. 🔥
I've been watching Project Farms for years. RUclips FINALLY recommended your channel today.
You guys are so thorough and its so satisfying when I have a question that's immediately answered in the video!
This is what years and years of marketing garbage on batteries gets you. A convoluted line of "high performance, high performance +, ultimate performance" high output performance +," and on and on...
Un necessarily confusing, and while backwards compatibility is great, everyone thinks they have the best battery because they're all marketed as best, and when a new one comes out how do they put it above what they just called best? By making the name mumbo jumbo...
Glad the difference wasn't much, and it was nice to see the 9ah pack deliver what it did, minus the confusion.
You're not wrong. If you pause at 2:06 and read our email mid page we say as much. Even as a power tool YT channel, we get confused on their battery "stages"
It would be nice to not have to decode their part numbers or look up a chart to figure out which is best.
I have to disagree with your comment.....my third wife is differently an improvement.
They have to make up new names nobody else uses, and they have to re-name when they make changes....even if the changes don't make the pack better....and they always try to convince us that the newest version as better, even if it is the same or worse.
@@fredygump5578 the only thing they're upgrading is the price. $100 for a 4Ah prosumer brand battery? Ouch
So as per their email the hp contacts allow the tool to draw 80 amps vs 60 without. Considering the PBP004 has 5s2p EVE INR18650/20P cells rated for 30A each, that would limit the pack to 60A, rendering the HP contacts useless.
Also the voltage drop on the EVE cells at 15A is within a 10th of a volt of the Samsung 30T cells in the P195 at 30A. Which is why the test was so close on the short tests.
At 1/2 charge the EVE at down to 3.3V and the Samsung around 3.4v and that gap increases as the state of charge drops.
Great post
@@littlejackalo5326
The batteries regulate the current, so there isn't very high peak current. These batteries would over temp within the torque dyno test length if they didn't have current regulation. In my own testing even with current regulation the newer EVE cells will over temp on around 80 seconds, with my older Sony cell 18650 pack lasting over 2 minutes. The primary cause was a much quicker voltage drop in the EVE packs, causing the current to rise as the tool tries to keep the tool turning. This is with 2p 4ah HP packs.
By comparison my custom 40t 1p 21700 packs will do a complete battery drain with out overheating the cells, with a 3.5 minute run time. My 9AH Sony cell packs will also do over 3.5 minutes, but the tool overheats after about 4 minutes.
I am using a test jig that mounts a bike disk caliper on my 6 1/2 inch brushless circular saw blade. Then use a spring to depress the brake leaver with the same amount of pressure.
@@littlejackalo5326 Your point is well made but a ~2Ah battery isnt unacceptable for all tools - for example I use 2.5 Ah's quite a bit when I dont want to have the weight (they are hugely lighter than the 4Ah or bigger, the 9Ah is a monster) and they are perfectly fine for a lot of different tools depending on the use.
@@francistaylor1822 the sad thing is a 1p 40t pack would be the best pack they could make, but they dropped 21700 all together. A 2p 40t would overheat any tool they make before dieing.
You're starting to garner the attention of the big brands. That's a huge deal!
Means maybe we'll see some better marketing claims and more transparency to the consumer.
More likely the big brands will try to bribe them with free stuff and when that doesn't work they'll get bored and leave them alone. Do you think the lock picking lawyer has caused a massive change in the lock industry?
@@TheFool2cool obviously the average mass produced item isn’t going to change (other than finding another way to make it cheaper) no matter what anyone does since your average consumer is looking for a barely adequate product or one that appears as such as long as it’s cheap, especially locks.
but yes i would say for sure he as well as TTC have made a significant impact to certain companies in their respective industries that care about performance and there is a sizable and deep pocketed group of people willing to research and find the best quality/value product available, and if you do the slightest bit of research on power tools or locks you are nothing short of guaranteed to come across both channels
Also the power tool industry has a MUCH larger group of savvy buyers than the lock industry so hard to compare the two, there’s hundreds of thousands of professional mechanics/technicians who rely on these every day and have a vested interest in them being up to snuff, versus locks being an average throwaway consumer product to the VAST majority of users and are usually nothing more than a visual deterrent rather than a real problem for thieves
@@CarbonatedGravy yeah but you protect your tools, with a lock!
@@TheFool2cool - LPL has not changed Master or Kwikset, but PacLock does pay attention. So it depends a bit on the manufacturer and what they value; some value lowest cost mass production, some value better performance.
Thank you for another fantastic and thorough testing video. It's great that the company reached out to you and are open to change / real user experience. All credit to you for getting independent samples and with your ever honest and modest presentation. Superb production values as always!
THANK YOU so much for running this!!! Finally data that can be shown to the droves of know-it-alls that screech “higher amp hour doesn’t mean more power it just lasts longer”. Y’all rock TTC!
Well amp hour doesn't mean more power alone. Discharge rate and voltage drop dictate that. But a full extra row of 18650s help with both of that. You could make a 9ah pack with terrible discharge rate cells and it would be worse than the 3ah with 21700s
@@TorqueTestChannel very true. Thank you for the clarification. It’s just an argument I see frequently on the ryobi fan FB pages usually about the 9ah batteries. Both sides utterly stuck in their mindsets about it.
Good thing I wasn’t drinking anything at the Helen Keller could feel the difference line.
She went on to become quite an accomplished person.
Been watching this channel for a while now and I must congratulate you guys on doing a bang up job calling out the marketing bull crap on all these products. Maybe ryobi might start selling all of their tools with the 9ah batteries lol
I wonder if the guy who said you were using the wrong battery ever worked at apple during the you know your holding it wrong that’s why it’s killing your signal lol
Keep up the great work
Wait what? Ive been unhappy with Ryobis new line and are you confirming it bs? I
I found this out when the 9ah first came out. The 5" brushed circ saw would never get through a 2x until I used that monster. The saw still sucked but it was OBVIOUSLY more powerful. It didn't have the HP contacts either - another myth busted - YEARS ago. EVERY tool with the 9 is better including the cheapest weed trimmer.
The 9 ah has 3 cells in parallel vs 2 on the 4ah so it has a potential of 33% more amps right out of the gate. That also means less voltage sag too.
This is why I use an 8 AH battery on my DCF899. It makes a difference on the stuck stuff.
The real challenge is finding the 9ah ryobi battery available anywhere. Picked one up with a charger as a package deal but have never seen HD have these single batteries in stock.
I'm glad I got 2 9h on sale for $75 each.. what a stupid good deal I couldn't pass up even though I didn't need them.
@@randybobandy9828 sell them for profit
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL . ive been here since the almost beginning . with your knowledge and humor it is easily my favorite part of youtube. I bleed red and yellow but thanks to you I have air in my veins also. you keep me on my toes and I know when and what else I am happy to buy! thank you!
You bleed red and yellow?
So you're a chicom?
Careful about the air in your veins 🤣 I don't even have a need for any tools this big - got a C3 impact driver and a cheap air impact wrench, and my next upgrade will be the Skil 12v brushless impact driver - but I love the data and knowledge.
@@rpavlik1 lmao! ya that sounded bad! ya know need for big tools for me either but I do like using a big impact for ever big bolt possible. makes changing tires effortless !
@@abechavez1876 lol damn! I didn't realize what I was saying! I mean i bleed red white and blue but I am afan of Milwaukee and Dewalt!
Can't wait to see the Rigid tested with the old 9 and new 6 amp hour batteries!
This whole thing sounds like a big sales trick to get honest RUclipsrs, who they know won't take their stuff, to buy extra batteries.
"Hey, you what you really need to do is get 50 ultra mega high performance batteries and place them in a circle for ten minutes before testing the tool (while chanting the Techtronic mantra). We'll send them at no charge. Oh, you have a policy of not taking free product? I honestly had no idea. I guess you'll have to buy them with your own money. Here's a link."
HAhaha, we've been had! Fell right into their trap!
(And to be clear, I'm not saying that taking free product makes a channel dishonest. It takes both morals and resources to be able to run a test channel without getting free tools. Many RUclipsrs could not afford to run channels without a hand-out hand tool.)
@@kyleolson8977 Amen, this is not a cheap route to take. If more samples being sent out means more reviews and data for you guys out there, we say the more the better. Most consumers are already flying around so blind as it is
I am not against taking free products but I like that you guys bought your own so we know we're not getting factory enhanced batteries/products.
Thanks for the extra effort and due diligence.
@@ZishanMalik gamersnexus gets stuff as the average citizen, to avoid getting the good stuff from the manufacturer
Looks like I mght be buying a Ryobi for my next impact gun for my trailer service division. The fact they actually are looking for feedback is a HUGE plus in my book. Plus, their battery powered grease gun kicks butt.
I used to use the RYOBI impact gun back when the only other battery powered options were SnapOn and DeWalt. The gun was $100 new and you could get 2 batteries for $100. They were pretty good for the price, and I used the guns daily. They could even occasionally remove crank pulley bolts, but subframe and suspension bolts were out of the question. The only drawback was that the gun would only last about a year, but, it was so inexpensive that I was happy to just go pick up another one. Then Milwaukee came out with their impact line, I made the switch. That was 5yrs ago, the tool is still going strong and I rarely come across a bolt it won't bust loose. The batteries have even held up.
@@rch5991 nope, it’s the first gen Fuel brushless high torque. Still going strong, just busted loose some 22mm suspension bolts and wheel bearings last week. I picked up the original brushed gun in a Home Despot package deal last year and it doesn’t hold a candle to the power of the fuel.
Thank you for all your work and bread going to these tools guys, its helping us mechanics keep the world go around with some savings in our bread making. Bake on Boys!
That's a lot of dough re mi
Still waiting on them to release a 1/4 anviled impact. Love using my 1/4 tools on smaller projects but hate having to use an adapter. I had a 1/4 impact through Matco years ago and loved it. No adapter required. Sockets went straight on the tool. Need ryobi to get on that.
I'm honestly quite pleased with the results of this. Proper battery with the pack with...not exactly identical, but functional numbers bundled with the battery? That's a positive change in the industry that's probably 100% related to your content and the content from others like you.
I'll be honest. I'm the cheap bastard that buys the cheep tool once to see if it lasts, and honestly, while they lack in power, I've only ever had one ryobi tool actually _die_ on me. Which is better than I can say of many much more expensive brands I've put through the same exact workloads.
Basically, until it dies, my work drill and driver combo for slapping together dead tree carcass is the cheapest tools ryobi would sell me...because they're about five years old now and still do the job.
Thank you!!!! You guys are doing an amazing job and making history!
Ryobi is great for around the house and small DIY tasks. I have had a set for years and built many thing with them and all still works. Don't expect too much out of them and they will serve their purpose well.
Great video, I was lucky enough to get a 9.0Ah for my birthday and found it is great in my line trimmer and the hedger that run for longer times. Here they have very strict marketing laws and they are sold as offering increased performance on selected brushless tools.
thank you for trying the 9AH got myself one a couple months back and it was a insane change
Having one is awesome, I really like not having to worry about having enough battery life when I’m not around somewhere to charge.
I have two of 9Ah batteries for my brushless lawn mower, and it's absolutely insane how much power it has with those, easily putting some of the petrol ones to shame (and it's fraction of the size and weight, and requires little to no maintenance...). Meanwhile I also got so many 5 Ah batteries around I basically don't know what the hell to do with those, since they kept giving them to me whenever I bought anything Ryobi last year or so...
I just ordered one of these impacts on a special at home depot. Buy the 4amp HP battery and charger and get the tool for free, not bad for $160 with free shipping. I'm glad to see the battery is a good match to the tool. I'm not a professional so it should do well for what I need, plus I have other Ryobi tools.
This channel sells tools like few others. It's that simple. The info we get here, and the comparisons are great for making us more educated buyers. I'd be surprised if every tool manufacturer wasn't paying super close attention to these videos.
Hello again Torque Test Channel
Thank you for another Great Video. For what you spent on batteries. These tools should come with Lifetime Warranty!!!!!
I got the 1/4 hp impact and drill with two 2 amp hour hp batteries and they are awesome! Awesome review bro.
Take that Turpal battery and jump it off from another good/charged battery for a mintue or so. Then toss it in a charger, it should start charging. It's most likely just dropped below the cuttoff voltage.
The battery level lights should still work, it should flash if under voltage.
An interesting set of data would be measuring the amp draw throughout these tests. That could really help answer some of these battery questions. I realize that could be a lot of additional effort. Great stuff you do here, thanks.
Quite frankly, that would be nearly impossible to do and be fair across the different brands. The ammeter would have to be placed between the battery and the tool, and there will therefore be extra contact resistance, extra resistance in the connection from the contacts battery side to the ammeter, extra resistance in the connection from the ammeter to contacts to the tool interface - that extra resistance could drop the voltage a tad or could limit the current flow. But each tool brand being different means these extra resistances can vary too much from one to the next, making the test unfair.
Easy to do but you'll need to modify the tool to add a current clamp to a power wire within the tool. Potentially reversible if done right.
@Steve Babiak it wouldn't be impossible at all.. you just need access to the hot wire on the battery or tool to measure it.
I will never ever dislike a video by you, you are hands down the best youtuber out there
I love that P195. It sucks that this stopped selling it and haven't released a 21700 cell followup as of yet.
About 2 yrs ago, they had a sawzall w a 9ah battery kit for 159. The saw alone was 139 and battery was its current price when separate but they stopped that kit pretty fast
@@dchawk81 - Hart is a TTI division, and so is Ryobi, Ridgid and I believe Milwaukee.
I wonder what the p262 mid torque would do with the 9ah battery
How about testing manufacturer batteries on the same tool. So get ryobi to dewalt and ryobi to M18 adapters and try the most similar sizes on that impact. M18 8ah oh vs ryobi 9ah vs dewalt 8ah?
milwaukee have 12ah, more li-ion cell in parallel...
I have had an aftermarket battery fail after a few seconds on a 1/2 impact. The cells were fitted too loosely in the plastic housing and the battery spot welds broke loose under the vibration. I got a replacement battery and filled the voids inside battery housing before using it, so that couldn't happen. I have been satisfied with it since. It brought an old tool back to life.
That much of a torque difference between the 9AH and the others would have to mean the wrench is handling a HUGE wattage (I'd think current, but I suppose it could be voltage depending on electronics) increase considering the difference in the torque is at the MFing, SOAB, hold my meth part of the curve. Maybe even 150%? If that's the case, the motor, anvil and electronics had better be way over-engineered to live a life that's anything close to the comfy life it would enjoy with the 4AH battery.
Awesome video! I'm a huge ryobi fan and have been wishing for a high torque impact for years and years. I did purchase a high torque Dewalt because I wasn't going to live without one, but I'll be picking this up to go with my many other ryobi tools. At the very least it'll give me an excuse to keep one in my work vehicle lol. With an impact wrench, Once you slap a 9ah(or bigger) battery in, you instantly feel and hear the tool come to life. It was great to see the massive gains reflected in the charts.
Do you use their stuff for professional usage or just diy? I’m interested in their stuff because of how much stuff they have 😮
Thanks for the 9ah test!
3:21 Did you really just say the usual "battery" of test???!!! 😆😆😆 Well played. Keep up the good work. You've helped a lot of people in making buying decisions.
I've been using the older, brushed ryobi impact gun with gen 1 and gen 2 batteries and some 6ah knockoff brand packs. In 2 years...used every weekend...I've only come across 3 bolts the ryobi couldn't break free. A dang good tool for it's price. I thought about buying the new brushless version but since my old one always gets it done, there's no reason to until mine dies.
You could buy the new one and have the old one as a back up incase it breaks. That way you won't have to stop the job and go to the store.
Hey @Torque Test Channel, the 9ah Octane battery (sold as AEG) is still available in NZ and AUS
It would be interesting to see if you can put together a battery test stand that will stress the batteries and measure actual volts/wattage/amps outside of a tool
I bought and opened up one of the clone “9ah” batteries, they do put out the power, but use lower capacity, average output batteries in them, making the batter capacity actually around 4.5ah.
Yeah, there's a couple vids around showing this. Also, you're never 100% certain where the batteries are coming from and could potentially start a fire or burn up your tool. Best not to use them on your high end tools.
I've considered buying the cheap batteries and replacing the cells with high quality ones, would probably end up with equal or better than original batteries at a cheaper price (if the work isn't accounted)
So they use old ass 1.5ah cells that have been out for 15 years. They put out as much power as the 3ah cells but obviously not the capacity.
@cujoedaman lmao what? Burn up your tools? I mean I guess if your blind maybe but anyone using a tool will see the signs of a cell overheating and remove it before the tool is on fire. Its also ryobi.. how expensive can the tool really get?
Exactly what I was looking for thank you
Man I wanted to see the knock off 9 amp hour so bad on the dyno 🙌😩
Be honest you just wanted it to burst into flames...
This impact wrench was surprisingly available at my local Home Depot two days ago. There were at least two that I saw mixed in with other tools on the bottom shelf but there was no display model out of the box on the top display shelf. That would seem to be officially out since it's available at a store that rarely has any difficult to find items.
The 9AH here is 118 CAD before 15% tax
You forgot to factor in all the “fees” though and then you’ll realize its more like 20% tax
@@meanodustino9563 HD has free shipping over 49 CAD, or drive there yourself.
LoL! I’m new to the channel. I just bought one of these impacts this weekend, before watching this, and maybe I misunderstood you but mine did not come with a battery. Guess I’ll use your link and get the big boy battery to go with it
I want to see the Ridgid high torque tested with a 9 ah battery!!
Good to see these figures tested and compared. I bought the Ryobi circular saw and it came with a 2Ah Lithium battery that would only power it for a minute or so after a fresh charge. Any longer than that and it often didnt even spin up. The older Impact wrench is also underpowered with the older and smaller batteries.
Purchased some aftermarket 4Ah batteries and they improved the performance immensely. Seems like I need to stump up for a 9Ah battery.
How about test this impact with an adapter and a Milwaukee 12ah battery
I use cryobi primarily around the house because they are affordable, and reliable... plus unlike snap off I don't need to locate a truck to warranty a part since I can just go to my local homeless despot to get a new tool /if/ something broke. Thus far I've had a gen1 weed smacker physically wear out from age/use but I haven't had anything fail on me(not counting bits).
That said it's nice they are including larger batteries in the kits since it makes me want to grab a few things next sale. Like the new 90* driver.
I bought that exact same knockoff battery for my ryobi and ended up returning it. Trigger response is delayed, far weaker than stock. Not sure why it has such good reviews on amazon. Waste of money.
The sellers family wrote those reviews
We've learned time and time again on this channel, when it comes to tools - amazon reviews are questionable at best
How does that listing do when you plug it into fakespot? I try to remember to check there and insist on a b or better
Amazon sellers can buy reviews. One way is they can purchase their own product in someone else's name and send it to an unsuspecting person. Then they leave a positive review that looks totally legit to Amazon. (There are lots of stories of people receiving items from Amazon they didn't purchase....I got a brass hammer for free. I actually did order it, but my order disappeared from the system. I received the hammer, but there was no record of the purchase when I went to expense it for work.)
I normally only buy tools/batteries with 1000+ 4.5+ star reviews
Sort by negative and read them, if it's just DOAs, defects or failure to arrive I'll consider buying them.
With no change in chemistry/type and, therefore, any associated gains in peak discharge rate, the larger capacity battery means that there are more cells in parallel. More cells in parallel means each cell is stressed to a lesser degree; generating less heat, voltage sagging less under load, etc. Overall, the cells are happier, the BMS is happier and the tool is happier; all culminating with higher tool performance.
I bought 2 9 ah batteries a few years back for about $60 each they are the right battery try them on the old school Impact wrenches too
Home Depot has sales all the time on Ryobi batteries. I got two 4 ah batteries for $99.99 a few months ago. And the deal even included a choice of tools to use with them, for "free". I chose the 5-1/4" circular saw.
This channel and project farm help me decide on new tools.
Got 2 9ah for 199.00 earlier this year in prep of buying the p262. The high torque came out an I'm happy that I got those 9ah batteries. I checked now HD is selling a 4 pack now...
Another good review keep the content coming
Very informative and entertaining!
I would consider the 9 AH for the air compressor or vacuum or similar continuous running load systems.
Honestly speaking I've been using Ryobi cordless tools for about 25 years now. I've had one battery go dead on me in all that time. I've never had any of the tools fail on me, just the one battery. I use Ryobi tools I bought 13 years ago and they're still going strong. I use them every day in my work. For performance and reliability I will always stick with Ryobi!
you are not hard on your tools at all old man. that's why.
@@shmee2571 thanks captain obvious. We know Ryobi isn't commercial grade and not meant for daily use. And the "old man" joke is funny. You are literally getting older by the minute.🤣
@@shmee2571 are you bragging about beating on your tools? That's dumb.
That 9ah battery was a wonderful surprise, I have this battery in the shelf due to it's bulk may have to bring it out again, like Tim the tool man says more power....
About 2 years ago I bought the 5Ah pack to replace my existing 4Ah packs, it's been amazing on all my Ryobi Garden & work tools. In the UK we can't get the 9Ah packs.
I had a first gen Ryobi drill go up in smoke while using a hole saw. The hardware store thankfully replaced it with the latest generation drill only to have it start smoking while using the same hole saw. I have an like their impact driver though. But haven't needed to use it for anything heavy duty.
I would have taken them up on their free battery offer, and then tested the ones they sent against the ones you bought down at Lowe’s or Home Depot just to see if for nothing else if they sent you some shill batteries 🤔 would’ve been intriguing to know.
That is a great idea to use with all brands, to find out which ones are doing the BS stuff - after all, free means he isn’t paying extra. It just means an extra set of tests to run. But the disclosure that would bring …
Ryobi: "You're using the wrong battery! We have a better one out!"
TTC: "Well Yes... but No."
Wish Ryobi were a little more focused than they appear to be, in their zone, but glad to know those 9ah gains are real and not just imagined on the old butt-dyno...wrist-dyno I guess???
I use those 9 ah batteriesin my kids 36v 500w quad Goes 25kmh run time about an hour
The engineers would know this, but can't tell anyone. It's the job of marketing and PR people to tell us, but they absolutely do not know anything about the tool that isn't written on the box.
@@fredygump5578 Marketing only knows what's on the box... but they make the box?
@@RobinDobbie Maybe you don't have much experience with marketing?
@@fredygump5578 I'm just curious how they know what to put on a box if all they know is what's on a yet non-existent box? Makes no sense.
I've been pretty happy with a few ryobi products, drills mostly. I am an aircraft mechanic, the subject comes up occasionally at work. I am not cheap on tools, but have no need for the highest torque drill to remove and install screws on inspection panels. Others have spent 3, 4, 5 times as much on drills for this. The result? They pull the trigger, the screws come out. Just like my cheap green one. Mostly wasted money. The clutches have worked well..I did change one chuck to a jacobs. The battery life seems comparable to more expensive brands, and I appreciate that they have been compatible for decades. I have nicads from the late '90's that fit in my newest drill. (Yes, they are long dead.)
The max output on impact wrenches is a real factor, though. My older ryobi is weak, but they seem to be improving.
Now put that 12ah M18 pack on the Ryobi. :^D
There are adapters that allow for that. Maybe a crazy idea, but by collecting a bunch of adapters, he could test to see if one battery brand has superior performance over other battery brands, using basically the same tool. There could be some power loss in the adapter (extra contacts and wiring within the adapter), but that would only give an advantage to the battery of same brand as the tool under test.
Just waiting for the Ryobi High Torque to be available in the states. Must in the containers in those anchored ships of the west coast of the USA. I have already have a new 2ah, 4ah, the older 6ah, and 9ah Ryobi Brushless Battery Packs. I wonder what the 9ah would do on the P262....
I have a bunch of Ryobi 18V ONE+ HP tools and I've discovered that they all performed their best with 6AH or 9AH batteries.
Different tool type but my DeWalt sds+ drill doesn't drop the battery level light on 9ah battery vs any of the smaller batteries. Checking battery level while tool is spinning up
Damnnn!! Ryobi stopping by the TTC to see whats all the noise. love it!! thank you for spending all the money on batteries. i was realllly hoping you could dyno that off brand. when you get a chance you should do off brand batteries.
Fear is you can make a cheap battery dyno really well, just up the volts. Cost savings are from using parts that have no life and dropping the safety hardware. A test that gets great results from cr@p is not helpful. Glad battery was DOA.
What happens if you assist the socket with your hand keeping the socket on the front endge of each impact so to speak, does it affect the imparted torque up or down with a fast impact battery powered tool?
I purchased the Ryobi 1/2 impact to work on my trucks. I tried the 4 ah battery and it wouldn’t loosen my lug nuts. They told me the same thing about the battery. I went to Home Depot and the “1” 9AH battery was about $40.00 cheaper then the 6ah battery so I bought the 9AH battery. The impact drill worked like a charm. The issue now is that not one single Home Depot sells the 9AH battery and a single 6ah battery cost about the same or more then the actual tool!
Ryobi hanging in there with the big boys!! Not bad for a DIY tool 👍
There's a terrific Ryobi days sale on this product. $199 includes a 6-hour amp hour, 4 amp hour and a 2 amp hour battery charger and The 262 Model of the impact driver. 600 ft Pounds...
They were wrong in their email but still got their score up thanks to the new vid and 9ah battery. Good work Ryobi! 😂
He’s likely communicating with marketing in those emails, and the level of technical skill in marketing is hit or miss. Some tech types do go into marketing (those are more likely to give a hit), but the non-tech types are more prolific in marketing (more likely to miss).
Hi good day would like to know which high torque impact wrench would you recommend between the ryobi and the ridgid
I have the 1/2" mid torque and I have all those batteries except for the 3 amp hour. I did like the lithium + batteries. I think they are good they should have kept making them. The 9 amp hour makes a difference! but I primarily use it on the small shop blower
What would happen if you taped over the communication pickup? I wonder if it would change the output.
I personally bought the 9ah battery because I don’t have a bunch of batteries or a garage to charge said batteries so having one that lasts a long time is awesome! I can vacuum my car using the P7131ID and it will maybe use one bar.
You hit on something... akin to men's razors (where they give you the handle so you'll buy the blades), the cordless companies seem to be selling batteries, and selling the tools at a lower price. Dammit, the big problem I have w/ this entire industry is that I'll end up with 20 different types of batteries sitting on chargers just to get the 4-5 tools that I want!
Or buy adapters that let you use batteries you already own in tool brands new to you. They are out there. The exception being trying to use a Ryobi battery in say a DeWalt or Milwaukee tool - the part of the Ryobi battery that sticks up makes it awkward to create adapters (it’s possible but they would be bulky).
i can hear you noticing the difference when you pull the triggger with the 9ah hahahaha
I bought a bunch of ryobi tools… the nicest thing I can say about them; I can leave them outside and NOBODY wants to steal them! Can’t say that about Makita or DeWalt - that’s for sure.
If I were a thief....
You really make top tier content, for years, nicely done.
TLDR; hello, I'm new these are my thoughts Ryobi is a basic brand, if you're after a basic experience your expectations will be met. If you're wanting a premium experience you will play a losing game against the house which is TTI when you pick Ryobi, you can do it but you should have just started with Milwaukee with the price you'll pay.
Alrighty, so I've snooped your channels videos once or twice before tonight, but I've never binged on your content prior to tonight, so thank you very much.
I'm trying to make sure to thumb up your videos and you earned a subscription but no notification bell because no one gets to send me notifications... No one.
Excellent video, well done, I love your stats first approach to your videos and your commentary makes it all the more enjoyable.
Now that the niceties are taken care of, my actual comment goes like this : I was really hoping that you were gonna call the Ryobi basic batteries "basic B***h" batteries quite honestly, however RUclips's algorithm doesn't like that kind of adult flavoring generally and your channel doesn't roll that way.
In my personal experience, I won't intentionally buy gen 1 Ryobi batteries, except when the Ryobi 3/8 in ratchet was $10 more with the 1.5ah gen 1 and a basic charger than the ala carte tool.
But outside of that rather extreme situation I just use my xc 5.0 M18 batteries with a lovely little Badaptor adapter.
Because at the end of the day, I'm invested in M18 but I didn't drink the Kool-aid, so my work van is spiced with 3 Ryobi tools where there was value in my opinion to buy the Ryobi and not the Milwaukee that was 3 times the price.
All of that to say, I'm very familiar with the difference in beans between the different sizes of batteries but for what I do the basic xc 5.0 batteries that were in my kits are perfectly sufficient for my needs and I couldn't justify shelling out the dough to buy separate 21700 based batteries (except for my vape, I switched to Samsung 21700 cells about 2.5 years ago, lol).
I plan on buying this impact when it comes out. I appreciate the review and update. I use the non brushless now and it works pretty well for everything I do but want the extra power when I need it
Bought one today at my local HD. Not sure why they had them out.
They are out as of today!
Where to find the rank chart you display in your video? My first Ryobi impact will arrive today, and I look forward to testing it out. Thanks, great video.
That's great. Just attach a car battery to get what others are close enough with smaller batterys. Once the battery is so big the tool can't get in the working space it makes the tool worthless and adding extensions and universals negates the extra power of the bigger battery. Some times we just have to strong arm somethings loose before we can spin them out.
I have had great luck with GENERIC BATTS for my RYOBI gear. It actually outlasts the OEM BATTS.
Knowing the instantaneous battery voltage during these tests would be interesting and easy, would show if low output is due to the tool or the battery voltage drop. I was curious about that during a previous test where the ryobi torque was erratic from test to test.
Still cheaper than Milwaukee.
A tool like this should have two sales. Tool only and tool with intended battery.
Milwaukee impact with small vs large battery makes all the difference also.
"Lithium caviar" so awesome, thank u.