I think they are around the same strength level. The outcome of a potential fight will likely be more dependent on the area and circumstances of the conflict.
Well Marshall d preach it black Beard turn to show us the readers what prime white beard power and haki is all about,I just hope oda sensai show us more and more flash backs of the off screen fights that wasn't showed in the manga,I hope it starts with MONKEY D GARP vs the black Beard pirates I hope we see Zoro god sights in fully effects
Let’s not forget at Marine Ford, old Beard stopped using his oxygen machines and taking his medicine at least a week before the battle. The dude used machines that fed him oxygen and he ditched them to fight in this battle just so he wouldn’t garner sympathy from his enemies. Imagine if he was able to breath without restriction. Edit: changed would to wouldn’t
then ig the current op community won't keep riding Akainu and will start clowning him since he will die to old wb lol. And also we would see Ace training with luffy and sabo having memory lost. Then they will only meet up after the final arc were the three brothers with Dragon(technically the dad of all three in a certain way) , fighting imu and other foes
Prime Whitebeard ✓ Known as the strongest in the world, whose vivre card says that he obtained this title long before the great pirate era, that is, long before Roger died. ✓ Possessor of the 3 types of haki with at least advanced both armament and conqueror. A haki level so high that it was on par with the pirate king who is understood to be the person with the strongest willpower in the world. Well, WB had the same willpower but was oriented towards something different from having the one piece, which was to raise a family and protect defenseless villages. ✓ He carried one of the 12 Saijo O Wazamono (supreme grade sword). It is the highest level type of sword, we only know of top characters that carry one, which are Roger and Mihawk, Shanks probably has one too. ✓ Possessor of the gura gura no mi, one of the most powerful devil fruits. What was seen in Marineford was surprising, but it is clear that it is not all that he is capable of doing, we do not even know what the awakening and / or final attack would be like. ✓ Impressive physical stats. Impressive strength superior to a giant, with which he could stop the Moby Dick with one arm. Immense stamina and stamina taking over 460 attacks including a sword thrust close to the heart, a beam of light from Kizaru to the chest, and Akainu's magma attacks to the internal organs and face. Agility to make big jumps and quickly appear after Akainu without him noticing. All this in his old age and illness. In his prime, he had enough stamina to fight 3 days against Roger. ✓ The trio of legendary marines had a lot of respect for him. Garp called him the king of the seas. Sengoku said that WB was the strongest and that he could destroy the world. Tsuru said that even if she retreated to the end of the ocean, there would be no safe place left in the world when someone faced the power of the gura gura. ✓ Finally, he died standing up.
Bro did you not see that clash he had with Roger ? If you have to jump 50 ft in that air to match somebody you are several times weaker than them .Don't believe me? get the weakest person you know or smallest person you know and tell him to jump and swing down I guarantee you you will not be able to match them even if you're several times stronger than them meaning that Roger was in a completely different level in the trash white beard was
@@SupremeGrandmasterAzrael1 bruh while i do believe that roger > WB that was clearly just animation, it was emphasized their blades didnt even clash, it was sheer haki. not strength.
@@ricardorivera7549 again bro it doesn't matter .If it didn't help he wouldn't jumped 50 ft in the air. You understand it makes no sense for him to do that if it has no effect.
@@SupremeGrandmasterAzrael1 u understand its a shounen and real physics dont apply 90% of the time? and again it wasnt a strength clash, go watch it again. it was a haki clash. strength had nothing to do w it. u reaching on this one.
I still don't get why people day akainu can square up with a prime whitbeard. They made it incredibly obvious that whitebeard was heavily nerfed and wasn't really moving around and dodging attacks... well that's because he couldn't. Dude is nerfed
That is far from the truth, It was made obvious that the admirals were holding back in Marineford to not accidentally harm the island or their allies, they literally can fight for 10 days and change the weather of an entire island. Kainu shouldve gotten stronger after his fight aokiji too
Primebeard’s willpower is insane when you think about it… on marineford he has the tenacity of a man intending to die… think about the strength of a man fighting to live
@@demetriusevans8407 nah we see Roger and him talking and Roger after finding it but before handing himself into the marines asked whitebeard if he wanted to know what the one piece was and whitebeard declined saying he didn't care.
@@MARSHALLDPREACHhear me out bro. I feel Imu has hidden young clones of Rocks Rodgers WB Big mom Garp to go against luffy last resort to take him down. Trump card Ace Sepherim play with luffy heart to defeat him make him prisoner execution Imu never put bodies in grave-I feel Imu hiding and waiting bring them out like how stussy is clone.
Haven’t even gotten far enough into the anime to see Whitebeard, but he’s already my favorite character. Definitely gonna make him in Elden Ring when I get off work💯
I honestly believe "the strongest man alive" doesn't even mean physically. Whitebeard could have just ended the world in a melancholic phase, plain and simple. Still, he chose not to.
Bcuz it is Strength why he's called Strongest Man, didn't you hear Sengoku story about Rocks. Rocks was winning until Roger showed up and helped Garp, It's possible Roger entered his Prime earlier than Whitebeard and Garp that's why he could match up against Rocks. The World Government kept it secret and gave Garp all the praise bcuz they didn't want the people knowing Roger a Pirate helped the Marines bcuz that shows weakness on their side humiliation. Power wise Rogers abilities was far superior than anyone in their ERA, there was a story of Drunk Roger almost Destroyed an entire Country bcuz someone said something about his Friends. He was wrecking people with only his Haki he doesn't have a DF, he was feared by his raw power. But not gonna lie I like Whitebeard better than Roger.
I wonder how Strong Roger was prior to him being ill. Even during that one clash with Primebeard (during the Oden Flashback), he was still suffering from his illness at the time (why Crocus was on the crew at that time period).
Whitebeard got the title of WSM even before the great age of pirates. That means, he's above Roger. Dude could have become PK but literally helped Roger become PK. My man built different.
cappp. the vivre card says its just a title, and it literally says that his title doesnt refer to his power level. He was rogers rival while roger was on cancer stage 45. good for him.
@@ricardorivera7549 So Mihawk isn't the WSSM then? You're gonna ignore the fact he fought Roger even before his sickness and Roger was said to be in peak condition by crocus even with the sickness? 0 logic.
@@AstroSully Roger fans simply always use the illness as an excuse. They prefer to ignore Crocus' speech. I don't understand, why can't they just accept that Roger isn't the strongest? In practice, even Garp is stronger than him, after all Garp didn't need any legendary weapons in duels.
@@rinka3768 True. I still have Roger and Gar as equals though. Using a blade is just another way of transmitting your haki. But yeah people ignore that WB and Roger fought multiple times. WB said they fought so many times he remembers every single face on Roger’s ship. The one we saw was there last duel. They weren’t even serious on that one.
That sounds amazing! We would probably see more about WB in the God Valley incident flashback if we get one and hopefully see what he did after like him starting his own crew
Oda is such a genius man. He knows we love to speculate, and he releases details about a massive battle involving all of the strongest characters, and gives us the results of said battle, but doesn’t release any of the details of how it transpired when there are thousands of scenarios that could’ve played out. Now we’re sitting here speculating and having fun with it, getting us more engaged in the story and its characters. Eventually there will be a huge pay off where we see what happened at God Valley and Oda will blow our minds once again while allowing all of these powerful characters to shine in their own way. He just knows what he’s doing.
One of the most impressive feats in the series is the fact that WB was sailing around the new world with a bunch of children and weaklings, meaning he alone is the crew. When your fighting the WB pirates back then, you are not facing a crew, you're facing a lone man.
Until he got Oden his crew was not very powerful yet. It’s understandable why Roger became pirate king. His crew was stacked. WB was the one man who could have rivaled him but that wasn’t even his goal
Not very many people have looked at this way, love the idea of white beard being stronger than Roger. He does hold the title of strongest after all🤷🏼♂️
Strongest is different from Powerful. Strongest means physical strength. Power wise like Haki Roger got that in the bag, Whitebeard couldn't beat his own Captain Roger and Garp did though. But it was probably mainly Roger bcuz on Sengoku story Garp was having problems against Rocks until they decided to Tag Team with Roger. But since the Government didn't want the world to know Roger helped Garp got all the attention and praise.
Roger, whitebeard and dont forget Garp, he was on at least the same level as both of them in his prime.. the monster trio of their time in a way even though they were all rivals.. those 3 were real monsters
whitebeard is the G.O.A.T of One piece. Whitebeard > Roger > Garp > Sengoku. I haven't seen anything about sengoku. So i don't know he was stronger than garp or not.
I think Whitebeard was the factor that shiftet the outcome of the god valley accident. The relationship he had with roger could had his origin in the betray of whitebeard against Rocks.
roger surely benefitted from knowing the secrets of the lost century and the one piece and being king of the pirates. His bounty was high for that reason too.
Also do you think Whitebeard big mom kaido and Gold Lion Shiki awaken there devil fruit powers or just white beard and shiki also do you think if whitebeard new the territory of wano that way he could have gone there and Avenged Oden name to protect oden legacy
True son, a fraud, an experiment or a clone, or whatever he might be, people should give more respect to Weevil when it boils down to power scaling. Kizaru said that Weevil is as strong as young Whitebeard... If Kaido and Big Mom are in the top 10, then Weevil should be there as well.
i mean im sure he meant physically. Weevil lacks the strongest paramecia, the gura gura no mi, the conquerors haki that WB had and he is clearly dumb as a rock so he lacks the IQ. or even the weapon. WB blade was one of the supreme grades.
@@liljay300000 exactly. also kizaru could have meant just weevils raw strength. still lacking the OP devil fruit, the conquerors haki, the experience etc.
I don’t actually think Rocks was stronger than Garp or Roger, cuz Garp and Roger had to team up sure, but they had to fight the whole of Rocks’s crew, that included Shikki, Whitebeard, Kaido, and Big Mom, and Rocks ended up dead after the fight. I think in terms of individual strength among the pirates, from highest to lowest it would be Whitebeard, Roger (very extremely close btw), and then a decent gap from Roger to Rocks, definitely a bigger gap than Roger and Whitebeard. If I had to make an estimate I’d say Rocks’s strength was probably similar to Shanks rn, definitely strong enough to contend with Whitebeard, Garp, and Roger, but not exactly as strong let alone stronger as/than any of those characters per say. Instead, I think that he was definitely the strongest of his crew, but remember that at that time Whitebeard wasn’t strong enough to fight the likes of Roger or Garp yet as he wasn’t exactly in his prime yet. And Kaido and Big Mom? Current Luffy with just his advanced haki and gear 2nd would pack both of them even at once. Kaido currently is still in his prime and he was getting his butt kicked until he used his DF and even then it was close, even before Luffy’s DF awakening, and to think current Kaido is now in his prime with full mastery of his haki and DF but still heavily struggled against Luffy. So I’d say Whitebeard at the time when he was part of Rocks’ crew was probs as strong as current Kaido, while Kaido and Big Mom at the time were about as strong as current Sanji or Katakuri at best. Enough to force an alliance between Roger and Garp, but obviously as they were defeated, not strong enough to win.
gthat begs the question tho, why would BM, Whitebeard, Shiki, Shakky, and all this amazing pirates, many w conquerors haki, would join under a man weaker than them. also it was stated that rocks was a more formidable rival to roger, even above whitebeard. Lastly, Kaido puts Rocks in the same tier as roger whitebeard shanks and oden as capable of defeating him. so he is fs up there.
@@ricardorivera7549 that’s what I was saying, if you compared Rocks to everybody else’s prime, it would’ve been different. As it was in their prime, Whitebeard alone could 1v1 Roger for days, so if Whitebeard was as strong as Roger during the god valley incident, Roger and Garp wouldn’t have won. Cuz judging by the fact that Roger and Garp defeated Rocks and his whole crew which included Whitebeard, Kaido, Big Mom and Shikki then I wouldn’t have made sense if Rocks was stronger than prime Roger. It would’ve made sense that he was a very difficult opponent but also not stronger than prime Whitebeard or prime Roger if his level of strength was similar to Shanks. After all, Kaido placed both Rocks and Shanks on his list, and it would’ve matched up quite nicely, Roger or Garp would’ve struggled a lot fighting him individually, and Whitebeard and the rest of the Rocks pirates before their prime definitely would’ve respected his strength a lot. Meanwhile Roger and Garp together would’ve definitely been able to beat prime Shanks, so it makes sense.
@@lordaragon901 I agree with what you said and it makes perfect sense 👌 If we go by everyone in their primes then it would be WB and Roger as pretty much equals but WB has the OP fruit along with his incredible physical stats which could change things up Followed by Garp who is always viewed to be relatively on par with Roger And Rocks being just behind them in power
@@Rony049 after watching Crocodile and Mohawk join Buggy. I realized Rocks Xebex might turn out to be another extremely lucky clown like Buggy, with unfathomable charisma and knowledge.
Whitebeard as power to destroy the world and in the war his devil is the best power to sink any ship or destroy any army and island. His devil fruit powder makes him more dangerous but in 1v1 i would go for roger
10:04 - no, oda stated in the ace novel, shanks became famous because he duelled with mihawk, mihawk was already famous before the great pirate era. Mihawk getting the title after beating shanks, is a debunked theorie which many still believe. Mihawk is portrayed stronger than shanks in 1 vs 1 - just deal with it 👌
If I’ve learned anything in one piece is your will in your ambitions Are key your strength which is why I have Roger over white beard. White beard and ambition with his family. Roger was the king of the pirates for Rogers ambition was superior in that aspect
I wouldnt say Roger's ambition was superior in any way, its simply differant Whitebeard said it himself when he said he found a treasure even greater than the One piece, for Roger the One piece was his whole life ambition, for WB his familly was. Unless you want to imply that Rogers will for the One piece is superior to Whitebeards "gonna go war with the whole World Governement (aka most of the world) cus one of my son is in danger"
Roger and luffy are at their strongest when they have to protect their crew. And there is Whitebeard who literally considers his entire crew his family. Whitebeard was the strongest because he simply had to be. And Roger didn't even want to be pk. That's just a title given to him by Morgan.
I think the main problem is they would never really fight each other at their strongest. Roger is Legendary for fighting his best when his men are behind him. But if Roger knows Whitebeard wont wipe out his crew if he falls, he probably can't go all out. Whitebeard at Marine ford waivered for a second because his body couldn't do what he wanted any more. But if his sons future isn't going to be bright in his absence he will find the strength and stamina to take the threat to hell with him. and i don't see roger messing with his boys that much.
I always thought that the term "destroy the world" was a coin to those spots/island/volcanoes in the new world and if they're destroyed it will literally sink the new world. this was in film Z btw so its not cannon.
Well I have watched lots of animes LOL, and so usually a simple dream character such as "I want to have a normal family" is stronger than a character like "I want to be pirate king". honestly, I like that because its common in animes but that makes the whole story debatable and so more fun ;). But it's true that people downplay devil fruits because image law with the most broken Haki just throwing other devil fruit users in the water. lmao, but also, I forgot if whitebeard awakened his fruit or not but if he didn't image what he could do.
Nope what the hell a one piece crontent creator doesn't know about it? Alright fine listen. It didn't had affect on Roger's strength it was taking his life span something similar as luffy. Luffy's life span has shorten a lot but it actually don't have any affect on his strength.
YES! I was gonna say that, when they fought on that Island for 3 days and they ended it on a technical draw, Roger was already diagnosed with his terminal illness... In his prime and when he was healthy Roger was definitely superior.
They've fought multiple times before that. Also Roger was said to be in peak condition even with his sickness a year prior to that fight in the Edd War.
I agree that white beard could have been stronger. He was on par with Rodger while not caring about power or glory. Give him Rodgers mindset and he would have been more powerful
Isn't it wierd how the older generation was extremely more powerful than the current? I mean the past 2 generations are still squaring up with the new one
Ultimately, I see Roger and Whitebeard as equals. Both could defeat each other, it just depends on circumstances. And regarding Shiki "never challenging" Whitebeard, we have no way to verify that. Both sailed the seas for decades and almost assuredly ran into each other many times. We don't know the full day to day and every single fight of Whitebeards time as a pirate, so to just 100% declare that Shiki NEVER challenged Whitebeard feels a little misguided.
@@piratekingzoro7386 yes, going for a insult so people will react to that rather then your bullshit claim. Very effective. Could have been more effective if you knew what grammar was.
Yeah true but at the same time crocus healed Roger. It didn’t like that was affecting him in the fight. Also they’re friends while they went all out I don’t think it was 100% because of that
Prime Whitebeard was the strongest he possessed all three types of advance haki and the strongest most powerful devil fruit in the paramecia class I'm sure he was the right-hand man of rocks and was more stronger than big mom and kaido combined Prime Whitebeard could beat both of them easily also he was the one closest to one piece some say sakazuki if he was the main protagonist could find one piece in one year but Whitebeard if he was main protagonist was closest to one piece see what I mean
bullshit , if he was he would beat roger no diff but he did not because his devil fruit means nothing in a fight where you fighting a haki master like roger
@@heavenlyway108 disgusting idiot confirmed.... you dont even know what haki is HELL we dont even know how haki truly works... strongest man > a man.... roger became the PK LITERALLY LITERALLY LITERALLY thanks to wb.... his motive wasnt to become the pk but to have a big family and his title was given along the way.... WB and roger equally clashed using haki ONLY!!!... wb wasnt even using his DF... the man is nerf from the get go since he is so strong he would kill his own family without even wanting to but he holds back by default.... THATS HOW DAMN STRONG HE IS, RESPECT THE STORY ALREADY AND CUT YOUR BULLSHIT... he showed equal conqueror's with roger AND EVEN IF ROGER HAS BETTER HAKI wb has more stuff in his arsenal and a title that proves without a doubt who is the strongest... if he wasnt stronger he wouldnt have gotten the title and roger wouldnt ackowledge him as someone worthy of being the PK but wb turned roger's offer proving he is a gigachad and people like you have 2 braincells fighting for the 3rd place "but roger was sick" his sickness had no cure therefore its something noninterchangeable so he is scaled with it... its like saying shanks is the strongest EVER because "IF HE HAD 2 ARMS" NO!!! he is perma sick and thats it... and even if he wasnt we dont know how much stronger he would be so scaling him WITHOUT IT its LITERALLY an alter dimensional take LOL... according to the author himself whitebeard got his WSM title right when oden joined his crew which is about 7 freaking years before roger became the PK.... roger wanted to tell wb how to find the one piece meaning roger KNEW that man was AT LEAST as capable as him YET one of them has the title of the absolutte strongest while the other got his title LITERALLY thanks to the very same person we comparing him right now... idiots like you think when someone doesnt have a df but is a haki master he gets somewhat of a boost.... NO a great haki can boost even further a great df user yet people act like having a DF is a nerf or shame... whitebeard is the only man known to be planetery... WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT HERE? just stfu already you roger fanboys are pathetic.... If roger didnt become the PK nobody would be arguing YET that same title was given THANKS TO THE LITERAL STRONGEST.... pathetic beyond belief
he is known to be ONLY advanced COC user so far, i know he is the strongest but without having a confirmation people giving TO ANYONE abilities they havent shown or to be confirmed users of them is literally headcanon, all and all your represantion is cool exept prime WB > kaido & big mom combined UNLESS you talk about back in the day when kaido and linlin werent at their peak
rayleigh with the scar on his right eye zoro with the scar on his left. sanji shouldve being have been trained by Rayleigh says a lot. why is Rayleigh so relevant.
Who was stronger? Whitebeard or Roger?
Def Whitebeard
I think they are around the same strength level. The outcome of a potential fight will likely be more dependent on the area and circumstances of the conflict.
They are probably equal but for pure destructive power on a large scale white beard
Whitebeard! I think
Well Marshall d preach it black Beard turn to show us the readers what prime white beard power and haki is all about,I just hope oda sensai show us more and more flash backs of the off screen fights that wasn't showed in the manga,I hope it starts with MONKEY D GARP vs the black Beard pirates I hope we see Zoro god sights in fully effects
The fact that every single powerfull character holds roger and whitebeards on a level higher then themselves says a lot.
Well whitebeard cant fvcked with he's captain tho
i dont remember garp doing so!
@@acegaming3580 people always forget garp
@@acegaming3580 From what we seem to know Garp shares the stage of the strongest with WB and Roger. Atleast that's what the narrator etc. told us.
@@BruceCruce well bro DID fight with Rodger so I mean...
Let’s not forget at Marine Ford, old Beard stopped using his oxygen machines and taking his medicine at least a week before the battle. The dude used machines that fed him oxygen and he ditched them to fight in this battle just so he wouldn’t garner sympathy from his enemies. Imagine if he was able to breath without restriction.
Edit: changed would to wouldn’t
then ig the current op community won't keep riding Akainu and will start clowning him since he will die to old wb lol.
And also we would see Ace training with luffy and sabo having memory lost.
Then they will only meet up after the final arc were the three brothers with Dragon(technically the dad of all three in a certain way) , fighting imu and other foes
Prime Whitebeard
✓ Known as the strongest in the world, whose vivre card says that he obtained this title long before the great pirate era, that is, long before Roger died.
✓ Possessor of the 3 types of haki with at least advanced both armament and conqueror. A haki level so high that it was on par with the pirate king who is understood to be the person with the strongest willpower in the world. Well, WB had the same willpower but was oriented towards something different from having the one piece, which was to raise a family and protect defenseless villages.
✓ He carried one of the 12 Saijo O Wazamono (supreme grade sword). It is the highest level type of sword, we only know of top characters that carry one, which are Roger and Mihawk, Shanks probably has one too.
✓ Possessor of the gura gura no mi, one of the most powerful devil fruits. What was seen in Marineford was surprising, but it is clear that it is not all that he is capable of doing, we do not even know what the awakening and / or final attack would be like.
✓ Impressive physical stats. Impressive strength superior to a giant, with which he could stop the Moby Dick with one arm. Immense stamina and stamina taking over 460 attacks including a sword thrust close to the heart, a beam of light from Kizaru to the chest, and Akainu's magma attacks to the internal organs and face. Agility to make big jumps and quickly appear after Akainu without him noticing. All this in his old age and illness. In his prime, he had enough stamina to fight 3 days against Roger.
✓ The trio of legendary marines had a lot of respect for him. Garp called him the king of the seas. Sengoku said that WB was the strongest and that he could destroy the world. Tsuru said that even if she retreated to the end of the ocean, there would be no safe place left in the world when someone faced the power of the gura gura.
✓ Finally, he died standing up.
Bro did you not see that clash he had with Roger ? If you have to jump 50 ft in that air to match somebody you are several times weaker than them .Don't believe me? get the weakest person you know or smallest person you know and tell him to jump and swing down I guarantee you you will not be able to match them even if you're several times stronger than them meaning that Roger was in a completely different level in the trash white beard was
@@SupremeGrandmasterAzrael1 bruh while i do believe that roger > WB that was clearly just animation, it was emphasized their blades didnt even clash, it was sheer haki. not strength.
meat riding is crazy. the vivre card itself states that it was only a title, that the title doesnt mean power level. lol.
@@ricardorivera7549 again bro it doesn't matter .If it didn't help he wouldn't jumped 50 ft in the air. You understand it makes no sense for him to do that if it has no effect.
@@SupremeGrandmasterAzrael1 u understand its a shounen and real physics dont apply 90% of the time? and again it wasnt a strength clash, go watch it again. it was a haki clash. strength had nothing to do w it. u reaching on this one.
I still don't get why people day akainu can square up with a prime whitbeard. They made it incredibly obvious that whitebeard was heavily nerfed and wasn't really moving around and dodging attacks... well that's because he couldn't. Dude is nerfed
Prime WB is on another level akainu would have no chance even against old WB with no injurys he'd be done
He was already close to death due to his illness
Yeah, also some idiots think that akainu the rat can beat garp the goat
That is far from the truth, It was made obvious that the admirals were holding back in Marineford to not accidentally harm the island or their allies, they literally can fight for 10 days and change the weather of an entire island. Kainu shouldve gotten stronger after his fight aokiji too
@@Averageundertaleplayersounds like you are salty about aces death. Pretty childish ngl
Primebeard’s willpower is insane when you think about it… on marineford he has the tenacity of a man intending to die… think about the strength of a man fighting to live
You know you’re powerful when people call you white beard even tho you have no signs of having a beard and no dares to ask you why
Ofc its a Beard...
Its a Mustache
@@amir1780but is it 2 different names
@@Buffkangaroo122 yeah true but it's a form of a beard :)
So Whitebeard is still accurate
I still to this day believe that S. Hawk will have the slice slice fruit cause I want to see the worlds greatest sword-man swordsman.
how do you feel being correct?
He knew the one piece was real. That’s the real power! Lol good video bro!
Thanks bro!
I agree he knew what the one piece is Roger told him for sure
@@demetriusevans8407 nah we see Roger and him talking and Roger after finding it but before handing himself into the marines asked whitebeard if he wanted to know what the one piece was and whitebeard declined saying he didn't care.
@@MARSHALLDPREACHhear me out bro. I feel Imu has hidden young clones of Rocks Rodgers WB Big mom Garp to go against luffy last resort to take him down.
Trump card Ace Sepherim
play with luffy heart to defeat him make him prisoner execution
Imu never put bodies in grave-I feel Imu hiding and waiting bring them out like how stussy is clone.
Whitebeard Best Moment..
The OnePiece Does Exists....
Greatest death
can we get much higher...
So high
He's ur dad but I'm ur pops / daddy
Haven’t even gotten far enough into the anime to see Whitebeard, but he’s already my favorite character. Definitely gonna make him in Elden Ring when I get off work💯
I honestly believe "the strongest man alive" doesn't even mean physically. Whitebeard could have just ended the world in a melancholic phase, plain and simple. Still, he chose not to.
Bcuz it is Strength why he's called Strongest Man, didn't you hear Sengoku story about Rocks. Rocks was winning until Roger showed up and helped Garp, It's possible Roger entered his Prime earlier than Whitebeard and Garp that's why he could match up against Rocks.
The World Government kept it secret and gave Garp all the praise bcuz they didn't want the people knowing Roger a Pirate helped the Marines bcuz that shows weakness on their side humiliation.
Power wise Rogers abilities was far superior than anyone in their ERA, there was a story of Drunk Roger almost Destroyed an entire Country bcuz someone said something about his Friends.
He was wrecking people with only his Haki he doesn't have a DF, he was feared by his raw power.
But not gonna lie I like Whitebeard better than Roger.
I think it does. If not BB would have the title but he doesn't.
@@AstroSully BB is dogshit cant even 1v1 a weak WB
I wonder how Strong Roger was prior to him being ill. Even during that one clash with Primebeard (during the Oden Flashback), he was still suffering from his illness at the time (why Crocus was on the crew at that time period).
Whitebeard got the title of WSM even before the great age of pirates. That means, he's above Roger. Dude could have become PK but literally helped Roger become PK. My man built different.
cappp. the vivre card says its just a title, and it literally says that his title doesnt refer to his power level. He was rogers rival while roger was on cancer stage 45. good for him.
@@ricardorivera7549 So Mihawk isn't the WSSM then? You're gonna ignore the fact he fought Roger even before his sickness and Roger was said to be in peak condition by crocus even with the sickness? 0 logic.
@@ricardorivera7549 Roger's illness did not affect his strength. Crocus, his doctor who prolonged his life for years, said so.
@@AstroSully Roger fans simply always use the illness as an excuse. They prefer to ignore Crocus' speech. I don't understand, why can't they just accept that Roger isn't the strongest? In practice, even Garp is stronger than him, after all Garp didn't need any legendary weapons in duels.
@@rinka3768 True. I still have Roger and Gar as equals though. Using a blade is just another way of transmitting your haki. But yeah people ignore that WB and Roger fought multiple times. WB said they fought so many times he remembers every single face on Roger’s ship. The one we saw was there last duel. They weren’t even serious on that one.
I would love a mini series or something telling whitebeards story. how he got his fruit, some of his epic fights, etc
That sounds amazing!
We would probably see more about WB in the God Valley incident flashback if we get one and hopefully see what he did after like him starting his own crew
For real Giga chin. Can hold his chin to grinder and sparks will fly everywhere. Truly refined. Gurarararara.
Oda is such a genius man. He knows we love to speculate, and he releases details about a massive battle involving all of the strongest characters, and gives us the results of said battle, but doesn’t release any of the details of how it transpired when there are thousands of scenarios that could’ve played out. Now we’re sitting here speculating and having fun with it, getting us more engaged in the story and its characters. Eventually there will be a huge pay off where we see what happened at God Valley and Oda will blow our minds once again while allowing all of these powerful characters to shine in their own way. He just knows what he’s doing.
Whitebeard ❌
Tyrone of the seas ✅
One of the most impressive feats in the series is the fact that WB was sailing around the new world with a bunch of children and weaklings, meaning he alone is the crew. When your fighting the WB pirates back then, you are not facing a crew, you're facing a lone man.
Yes!
Until he got Oden his crew was not very powerful yet. It’s understandable why Roger became pirate king. His crew was stacked. WB was the one man who could have rivaled him but that wasn’t even his goal
You should do a how strong is current Shanks?
I will eventually 😁
@@MARSHALLDPREACH ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Wait if sengoku saw how powerful he was during the god valley incident.
Gave him ptsd
Sengoku wasn't there
@@cody3437 based on what.
@@permanentlybored195 he didnt FIGHT there, doesnt mean he couldnt have seen the fight from a distance
Whitebeard was my favorite character til Shanks kept pulled up
I like this theory Rocks D. Xebec being the best Haki user
Thank you!
Shanks best haki all time
@@jeremiahtannehill8870Joyboy
Wb never run after treasure or one peice he jst wanted a family n end up being the "Strongest Man" is wild 💀
So crazy. Just built different
In a way he has to be the strongest to protect all his children who are weak. Roger doensn’t have as many young orphans to protect
i would love this kind of video about shanks/mihawk/katakuri!
Not very many people have looked at this way, love the idea of white beard being stronger than Roger. He does hold the title of strongest after all🤷🏼♂️
Are you dumb? Pirate king inferior to another person ? You realize that Rogers was sick when having fun fighting wb ? Pirate king >> strongest man
Strongest is different from Powerful. Strongest means physical strength. Power wise like Haki Roger got that in the bag, Whitebeard couldn't beat his own Captain Roger and Garp did though. But it was probably mainly Roger bcuz on Sengoku story Garp was having problems against Rocks until they decided to Tag Team with Roger. But since the Government didn't want the world to know Roger helped Garp got all the attention and praise.
@@silverarrow2013 Why would WB beat Rocks? He wasn't even in his prime.
@@AstroSully lol just ignore that kid
@@Memes2watch 💯
Roger, whitebeard and dont forget Garp, he was on at least the same level as both of them in his prime.. the monster trio of their time in a way even though they were all rivals.. those 3 were real monsters
Imagine if whitebeards gura gura no mi was a logia like man 💀 🔥
preach was spitting in that intro lmao
Thanks bro. Had to gas up the strongest man before we get into it💪
whitebeard is the G.O.A.T of One piece.
Whitebeard > Roger > Garp > Sengoku.
I haven't seen anything about sengoku. So i don't know he was stronger than garp or not.
Roger and Whitebeard were both parallels just like Luffy and Kid... or both sides of the same coin like Luffy and Black Beard
kid is lame...
Eustass Captain MID LUL :D
Whitebeard actually kept up with Roger. Kidd can't even keep up with Luffy even with Law's help. Luffy's actual rival is the bomb that KO'd Big Mom.
Blackbeard = evil Whitebeard who kills his family and wants to find the One Piece to presumably rule the world
Kidd is not close to Luffy AT ALL
White beard's raw strength was on another level he was able to stop his ship with just one hand while he was dying
I think Whitebeard was the factor that shiftet the outcome of the god valley accident. The relationship he had with roger could had his origin in the betray of whitebeard against Rocks.
A lot of wb’s bounty comes from his territories. Just like the other yonko. Roger is the only yonko type character that doesn’t own any place.
Source?
@@Easson_ source: trust me bro
@@Friendly_G that source keep showing up😁
roger surely benefitted from knowing the secrets of the lost century and the one piece and being king of the pirates. His bounty was high for that reason too.
@@Easson_ the more places under your belt, the more people associated with your criminal activities. I thought that was obvious.
Also do you think Whitebeard big mom kaido and Gold Lion Shiki awaken there devil fruit powers or just white beard and shiki also do you think if whitebeard new the territory of wano that way he could have gone there and Avenged Oden name to protect oden legacy
Just started the bid but the thumbnail made me think, they were fairly equal in terms of haki, so whiteboards DF would probably work on Roger
True son, a fraud, an experiment or a clone, or whatever he might be, people should give more respect to Weevil when it boils down to power scaling. Kizaru said that Weevil is as strong as young Whitebeard... If Kaido and Big Mom are in the top 10, then Weevil should be there as well.
He’s definitely strong. But it seems he’s not smart enough to use that power in the same way as someone like wb
i mean im sure he meant physically. Weevil lacks the strongest paramecia, the gura gura no mi, the conquerors haki that WB had and he is clearly dumb as a rock so he lacks the IQ. or even the weapon. WB blade was one of the supreme grades.
uh he is in no way top 10. Intelligence plays a role both in someone's planning as well in how well they are able to fight.
@@liljay300000 exactly. also kizaru could have meant just weevils raw strength. still lacking the OP devil fruit, the conquerors haki, the experience etc.
@@liljay300000 even WBs spear or whatever it was was a supreme grade weapon. Weevil fights w a normal weapon as far as we know
You didnt mention : His weapon is one of the 12 grand supreme blades, just like mihawks sword.
Bro so Chad, he grew a moustache to called himself Whitebeard and no one dared question him.
Great video do one for Big Mom
WB was insanely strong I can’t imagine how strong he was at his prime
Well go off the fact that even wild sick and old as hell he could match shanks adv conq and split the skies
ey loved this vid 🎉 fanx
Make next video on Prime Garp or prime Ray
i’m doing the rocks pirates and then I’ll do those! 👍
Only character that confirmed stronger than WB is Rocks
I have Rocks over wb and roger
Well since we havent seen anything about rocks i will still say whitebeard is stronger.
I'm think ONLY Whitebeard and Roger are ever called the 'Great Pirate'
(So far)
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I don’t actually think Rocks was stronger than Garp or Roger, cuz Garp and Roger had to team up sure, but they had to fight the whole of Rocks’s crew, that included Shikki, Whitebeard, Kaido, and Big Mom, and Rocks ended up dead after the fight. I think in terms of individual strength among the pirates, from highest to lowest it would be Whitebeard, Roger (very extremely close btw), and then a decent gap from Roger to Rocks, definitely a bigger gap than Roger and Whitebeard. If I had to make an estimate I’d say Rocks’s strength was probably similar to Shanks rn, definitely strong enough to contend with Whitebeard, Garp, and Roger, but not exactly as strong let alone stronger as/than any of those characters per say. Instead, I think that he was definitely the strongest of his crew, but remember that at that time Whitebeard wasn’t strong enough to fight the likes of Roger or Garp yet as he wasn’t exactly in his prime yet. And Kaido and Big Mom? Current Luffy with just his advanced haki and gear 2nd would pack both of them even at once. Kaido currently is still in his prime and he was getting his butt kicked until he used his DF and even then it was close, even before Luffy’s DF awakening, and to think current Kaido is now in his prime with full mastery of his haki and DF but still heavily struggled against Luffy. So I’d say Whitebeard at the time when he was part of Rocks’ crew was probs as strong as current Kaido, while Kaido and Big Mom at the time were about as strong as current Sanji or Katakuri at best. Enough to force an alliance between Roger and Garp, but obviously as they were defeated, not strong enough to win.
gthat begs the question tho, why would BM, Whitebeard, Shiki, Shakky, and all this amazing pirates, many w conquerors haki, would join under a man weaker than them. also it was stated that rocks was a more formidable rival to roger, even above whitebeard. Lastly, Kaido puts Rocks in the same tier as roger whitebeard shanks and oden as capable of defeating him. so he is fs up there.
Rocks was probably in his time stronger than wb BM and roger and the rest, they reached their primes after the god valley incident too.
@@ricardorivera7549 that’s what I was saying, if you compared Rocks to everybody else’s prime, it would’ve been different. As it was in their prime, Whitebeard alone could 1v1 Roger for days, so if Whitebeard was as strong as Roger during the god valley incident, Roger and Garp wouldn’t have won. Cuz judging by the fact that Roger and Garp defeated Rocks and his whole crew which included Whitebeard, Kaido, Big Mom and Shikki then I wouldn’t have made sense if Rocks was stronger than prime Roger. It would’ve made sense that he was a very difficult opponent but also not stronger than prime Whitebeard or prime Roger if his level of strength was similar to Shanks. After all, Kaido placed both Rocks and Shanks on his list, and it would’ve matched up quite nicely, Roger or Garp would’ve struggled a lot fighting him individually, and Whitebeard and the rest of the Rocks pirates before their prime definitely would’ve respected his strength a lot. Meanwhile Roger and Garp together would’ve definitely been able to beat prime Shanks, so it makes sense.
@@lordaragon901 I agree with what you said and it makes perfect sense 👌
If we go by everyone in their primes then it would be
WB and Roger as pretty much equals but WB has the OP fruit along with his incredible physical stats which could change things up
Followed by Garp who is always viewed to be relatively on par with Roger
And Rocks being just behind them in power
@@Rony049 after watching Crocodile and Mohawk join Buggy. I realized Rocks Xebex might turn out to be another extremely lucky clown like Buggy, with unfathomable charisma and knowledge.
Whitebeard as power to destroy the world and in the war his devil is the best power to sink any ship or destroy any army and island. His devil fruit powder makes him more dangerous but in 1v1 i would go for roger
Roger and Whitebeard are the top 2 greatest men to have ever lived in the one piece universe.
And Garp.. it wasn't Roger and Whiteboard who defeated Rocks
No shanks is
10:04 - no, oda stated in the ace novel, shanks became famous because he duelled with mihawk, mihawk was already famous before the great pirate era. Mihawk getting the title after beating shanks, is a debunked theorie which many still believe. Mihawk is portrayed stronger than shanks in 1 vs 1 - just deal with it 👌
His hockey was really strong. Super hockey. I am a big hockey fan too. Go hockey.
Prime Raleigh video would be awesome
Will come eventually! I really want to do Rayleigh
Prime Whitebeard vs Current Blackbeard
Not even close Prime WB wipes him with mid-high difficulty.
What if BB takes Coby to the Cross Guild for a temporary alliance?
Can u do Akainu he’s a top tier all time
Yes he’s on the list
The Japanese language has one word for all of the facial hair, so his moustache counts.
If I’ve learned anything in one piece is your will in your ambitions Are key your strength which is why I have Roger over white beard. White beard and ambition with his family. Roger was the king of the pirates for Rogers ambition was superior in that aspect
I wouldnt say Roger's ambition was superior in any way, its simply differant Whitebeard said it himself when he said he found a treasure even greater than the One piece, for Roger the One piece was his whole life ambition, for WB his familly was.
Unless you want to imply that Rogers will for the One piece is superior to Whitebeards "gonna go war with the whole World Governement (aka most of the world) cus one of my son is in danger"
Roger and luffy are at their strongest when they have to protect their crew.
And there is Whitebeard who literally considers his entire crew his family.
Whitebeard was the strongest because he simply had to be.
And Roger didn't even want to be pk.
That's just a title given to him by Morgan.
I think the main problem is they would never really fight each other at their strongest. Roger is Legendary for fighting his best when his men are behind him. But if Roger knows Whitebeard wont wipe out his crew if he falls, he probably can't go all out. Whitebeard at Marine ford waivered for a second because his body couldn't do what he wanted any more. But if his sons future isn't going to be bright in his absence he will find the strength and stamina to take the threat to hell with him. and i don't see roger messing with his boys that much.
You right 👍
thanks
to sums it up he's so strong that nobody in the whole world corrected him and fuck around that it's a mustache that he grew and not a beard
i think roger was familiar with rocks crew and probably fought them on multiple occasions
I always thought that the term "destroy the world" was a coin to those spots/island/volcanoes in the new world and if they're destroyed it will literally sink the new world. this was in film Z btw so its not cannon.
Whitebeard is just majestic
A White beard video this is gonna be epic!
Well I have watched lots of animes LOL, and so usually a simple dream character such as "I want to have a normal family" is stronger than a character like "I want to be pirate king". honestly, I like that because its common in animes but that makes the whole story debatable and so more fun ;). But it's true that people downplay devil fruits because image law with the most broken Haki just throwing other devil fruit users in the water. lmao, but also, I forgot if whitebeard awakened his fruit or not but if he didn't image what he could do.
did Roger's sickness have an affect on his power like old wb
I think so, it’s unclear how much but he was dying
Nope what the hell a one piece crontent creator doesn't know about it? Alright fine listen. It didn't had affect on Roger's strength it was taking his life span something similar as luffy. Luffy's life span has shorten a lot but it actually don't have any affect on his strength.
@@xicorgaming6814 that's cap it definitely have an effect
Another reason he literally had a part of his head melted off and didn’t die and he was a senior
Whitebeard was in his prime during the fight while roger was extremely nerfed
YES! I was gonna say that, when they fought on that Island for 3 days and they ended it on a technical draw, Roger was already diagnosed with his terminal illness... In his prime and when he was healthy Roger was definitely superior.
They've fought multiple times before that. Also Roger was said to be in peak condition even with his sickness a year prior to that fight in the Edd War.
@@vinadkc Source: Trust me bro
@@rinka3768 yeah you're right that is my source, i ate the brain brain fruit.
I agree that white beard could have been stronger. He was on par with Rodger while not caring about power or glory. Give him Rodgers mindset and he would have been more powerful
That’s what makes Roger so cool, his willpower and ambition is so great
If it weren’t for cancer… Whitebeard would have seeped the floor with the whole marineford
Maybe, Garp didn’t really try in that war I think once he stepped in he would have been enough to take down Whitebeard alongside the admirals
But yeah it would have been cool to see a prime whitebeard at marineford and destroying everything
Isn't it wierd how the older generation was extremely more powerful than the current? I mean the past 2 generations are still squaring up with the new one
Current still going
Whiteboard is stronger than Rojar but Rojar pirates are stronger than Whitebeard pirates
We all know that Roger and Whitebeard is the most respectable and greatest pirates in world history
Make more vids like how strong is shanks luffy prime Roger lastly when you get more information about dragon teach mihawk make how strong are them
I got you bro 👍
Also make how strong was prime garp because some say he was more stronger than Prime Whitebeard
Can you do one on shiki
Would like to see black bearrd vs kaido what if
I’ll think about it
Edward D. Newgate sounds so natural to say
More like edwar D newgate
I think his durability was only lackluster cause he couldn't use ACOC, so it probably wouldn't have been bad at all in his prime.
How can you be a One Piece RUclipsr and misspell Pops' weapon name? MURAKUmogiri, not MARUKOmogiri.
I may have been my editor. Sorry for that
@@MARSHALLDPREACH the graphic shows the correct name, the voice says it wrong.
@@SuperJJAlexander I'm not japanese
@@MARSHALLDPREACH I'm not either but I pronounce most of the names in One Piece correctly.
Ultimately, I see Roger and Whitebeard as equals. Both could defeat each other, it just depends on circumstances.
And regarding Shiki "never challenging" Whitebeard, we have no way to verify that. Both sailed the seas for decades and almost assuredly ran into each other many times. We don't know the full day to day and every single fight of Whitebeards time as a pirate, so to just 100% declare that Shiki NEVER challenged Whitebeard feels a little misguided.
King of the seas
weevil is a failed clone of WB, was saved by Dr hogback from thriller bark
I agree
You didn't talk about whitebeard devil fruit awakening which would give him tremendous power boost
The word beard in Japanese is basically facial hair. White facial hair. ..mustache counts.
This is why i think garp is strong af. He pulled up to roger with no crew. Roger had oden rayleigh gaban and himself.
You retarded young man garp wasn’t fighting them all he barely had matches with Rogers just like coby with luffy
@@piratekingzoro7386 yes, going for a insult so people will react to that rather then your bullshit claim. Very effective. Could have been more effective if you knew what grammar was.
@@permanentlybored195one piece fandom is just annoying with their worst power scaling
I think wb may have had been physically stronger than Roger but Rogers Haki dwarfs wb and anyone else's
Roger and white beard goated no doubt but they drawed in the time that roger were sick
Yeah true but at the same time crocus healed Roger. It didn’t like that was affecting him in the fight. Also they’re friends while they went all out I don’t think it was 100% because of that
Whitebeard is the Shaq of One Piece while Roger is Kobe
I agree with you soooooo much
I mean, his title is enough to be said lol. I don't even know why this is a debate...
It’s definitely close at least with him and Roger. I think it’s a good debate
Hahahah so true! .. he’s so damn strong he doesn’t even need a white beard to be called WhiteBeard! Lmao
IS it me or am i hearing gigachad theme in the background
Akainu would have grateful of not faced this Whitebeard, he wouldn’t survived the Quake punch with his full strenght and Haoshoku infussion
I think he must not be kept down in haki below garp and Roger i think they are in equal level of haki
Well Roger also was ill with an unknown disease while he was in his prime
Prime Whitebeard was the strongest he possessed all three types of advance haki and the strongest most powerful devil fruit in the paramecia class I'm sure he was the right-hand man of rocks and was more stronger than big mom and kaido combined Prime Whitebeard could beat both of them easily also he was the one closest to one piece some say sakazuki if he was the main protagonist could find one piece in one year but Whitebeard if he was main protagonist was closest to one piece see what I mean
bullshit , if he was he would beat roger no diff but he did not because his devil fruit means nothing in a fight where you fighting a haki master like roger
So what you're right Whitebeard was not above Rodger but below but he was above garp shiki sengoku big mom and kaido
@@heavenlyway108 disgusting idiot confirmed.... you dont even know what haki is HELL we dont even know how haki truly works... strongest man > a man.... roger became the PK LITERALLY LITERALLY LITERALLY thanks to wb.... his motive wasnt to become the pk but to have a big family and his title was given along the way....
WB and roger equally clashed using haki ONLY!!!... wb wasnt even using his DF... the man is nerf from the get go since he is so strong he would kill his own family without even wanting to but he holds back by default.... THATS HOW DAMN STRONG HE IS, RESPECT THE STORY ALREADY AND CUT YOUR BULLSHIT... he showed equal conqueror's with roger AND EVEN IF ROGER HAS BETTER HAKI wb has more stuff in his arsenal and a title that proves without a doubt who is the strongest... if he wasnt stronger he wouldnt have gotten the title and roger wouldnt ackowledge him as someone worthy of being the PK but wb turned roger's offer proving he is a gigachad and people like you have 2 braincells fighting for the 3rd place
"but roger was sick" his sickness had no cure therefore its something noninterchangeable so he is scaled with it... its like saying shanks is the strongest EVER because "IF HE HAD 2 ARMS" NO!!!
he is perma sick and thats it... and even if he wasnt we dont know how much stronger he would be so scaling him WITHOUT IT its LITERALLY an alter dimensional take LOL... according to the author himself whitebeard got his WSM title right when oden joined his crew which is about 7 freaking years before roger became the PK....
roger wanted to tell wb how to find the one piece meaning roger KNEW that man was AT LEAST as capable as him YET one of them has the title of the absolutte strongest while the other got his title LITERALLY thanks to the very same person we comparing him right now...
idiots like you think when someone doesnt have a df but is a haki master he gets somewhat of a boost.... NO a great haki can boost even further a great df user yet people act like having a DF is a nerf or shame...
whitebeard is the only man known to be planetery... WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT HERE? just stfu already you roger fanboys are pathetic.... If roger didnt become the PK nobody would be arguing YET that same title was given THANKS TO THE LITERAL STRONGEST.... pathetic beyond belief
he is known to be ONLY advanced COC user so far, i know he is the strongest but without having a confirmation people giving TO ANYONE abilities they havent shown or to be confirmed users of them is literally headcanon, all and all your represantion is cool exept prime WB > kaido & big mom combined UNLESS you talk about back in the day when kaido and linlin werent at their peak
How do you know garp was more stronger than Whitebeard
You don't have to know rocket science to figure this. He was the strongest man of his era no doubt about that!
After Roger died he didn’t have a true competitor until he was older and dying
I think roger is more stronger but still that monster devil fruit makes this debatable
Hi
they better chose wisely where they finna fight cuz that joint finna sink
rayleigh with the scar on his right eye zoro with the scar on his left. sanji shouldve being have been trained by Rayleigh says a lot. why is Rayleigh so relevant.