How Strong Was PRIME Whitebeard REALLY?

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  • How Strong Was Prime Whitebeard? Today we look at all of Whitebeard's feats and abilities from devil fruit to haki to answer one question: Was Whitebeard was stronger than Gol D. Roger?
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  • @MARSHALLDPREACH
    @MARSHALLDPREACH  Год назад +72

    Who was stronger? Whitebeard or Roger?

    • @sssvalentine
      @sssvalentine Год назад +35

      Def Whitebeard

    • @sebastos7693
      @sebastos7693 Год назад +16

      I think they are around the same strength level. The outcome of a potential fight will likely be more dependent on the area and circumstances of the conflict.

    • @jonathandavid3393
      @jonathandavid3393 Год назад +22

      They are probably equal but for pure destructive power on a large scale white beard

    • @Thrillr
      @Thrillr Год назад +7

      Whitebeard! I think

    • @mecoalford4248
      @mecoalford4248 Год назад +3

      Well Marshall d preach it black Beard turn to show us the readers what prime white beard power and haki is all about,I just hope oda sensai show us more and more flash backs of the off screen fights that wasn't showed in the manga,I hope it starts with MONKEY D GARP vs the black Beard pirates I hope we see Zoro god sights in fully effects

  • @BruceCruce
    @BruceCruce Год назад +296

    The fact that every single powerfull character holds roger and whitebeards on a level higher then themselves says a lot.

    • @dragoymir8065
      @dragoymir8065 Год назад +2

      Well whitebeard cant fvcked with he's captain tho

    • @acegaming3580
      @acegaming3580 Год назад +8

      i dont remember garp doing so!

    • @Shadow-fb2ec
      @Shadow-fb2ec Год назад +1

      @@acegaming3580 people always forget garp

    • @BruceCruce
      @BruceCruce Год назад +22

      @@acegaming3580 From what we seem to know Garp shares the stage of the strongest with WB and Roger. Atleast that's what the narrator etc. told us.

    • @Friendly_G
      @Friendly_G Год назад

      @@BruceCruce well bro DID fight with Rodger so I mean...

  • @stevelucky7579
    @stevelucky7579 Год назад +75

    Let’s not forget at Marine Ford, old Beard stopped using his oxygen machines and taking his medicine at least a week before the battle. The dude used machines that fed him oxygen and he ditched them to fight in this battle just so he wouldn’t garner sympathy from his enemies. Imagine if he was able to breath without restriction.
    Edit: changed would to wouldn’t

    • @Nohomo509
      @Nohomo509 Месяц назад

      then ig the current op community won't keep riding Akainu and will start clowning him since he will die to old wb lol.
      And also we would see Ace training with luffy and sabo having memory lost.
      Then they will only meet up after the final arc were the three brothers with Dragon(technically the dad of all three in a certain way) , fighting imu and other foes

  • @joselynruiz2632
    @joselynruiz2632 Год назад +160

    Prime Whitebeard
    ✓ Known as the strongest in the world, whose vivre card says that he obtained this title long before the great pirate era, that is, long before Roger died.
    ✓ Possessor of the 3 types of haki with at least advanced both armament and conqueror. A haki level so high that it was on par with the pirate king who is understood to be the person with the strongest willpower in the world. Well, WB had the same willpower but was oriented towards something different from having the one piece, which was to raise a family and protect defenseless villages.
    ✓ He carried one of the 12 Saijo O Wazamono (supreme grade sword). It is the highest level type of sword, we only know of top characters that carry one, which are Roger and Mihawk, Shanks probably has one too.
    ✓ Possessor of the gura gura no mi, one of the most powerful devil fruits. What was seen in Marineford was surprising, but it is clear that it is not all that he is capable of doing, we do not even know what the awakening and / or final attack would be like.
    ✓ Impressive physical stats. Impressive strength superior to a giant, with which he could stop the Moby Dick with one arm. Immense stamina and stamina taking over 460 attacks including a sword thrust close to the heart, a beam of light from Kizaru to the chest, and Akainu's magma attacks to the internal organs and face. Agility to make big jumps and quickly appear after Akainu without him noticing. All this in his old age and illness. In his prime, he had enough stamina to fight 3 days against Roger.
    ✓ The trio of legendary marines had a lot of respect for him. Garp called him the king of the seas. Sengoku said that WB was the strongest and that he could destroy the world. Tsuru said that even if she retreated to the end of the ocean, there would be no safe place left in the world when someone faced the power of the gura gura.
    ✓ Finally, he died standing up.

    • @luigregorio4682
      @luigregorio4682 Год назад +3

      Bro did you not see that clash he had with Roger ? If you have to jump 50 ft in that air to match somebody you are several times weaker than them .Don't believe me? get the weakest person you know or smallest person you know and tell him to jump and swing down I guarantee you you will not be able to match them even if you're several times stronger than them meaning that Roger was in a completely different level in the trash white beard was

    • @ricardorivera7549
      @ricardorivera7549 Год назад +11

      @@luigregorio4682 bruh while i do believe that roger > WB that was clearly just animation, it was emphasized their blades didnt even clash, it was sheer haki. not strength.

    • @ricardorivera7549
      @ricardorivera7549 Год назад +2

      meat riding is crazy. the vivre card itself states that it was only a title, that the title doesnt mean power level. lol.

    • @luigregorio4682
      @luigregorio4682 Год назад +1

      @@ricardorivera7549 again bro it doesn't matter .If it didn't help he wouldn't jumped 50 ft in the air. You understand it makes no sense for him to do that if it has no effect.

    • @ricardorivera7549
      @ricardorivera7549 Год назад +8

      @@luigregorio4682 u understand its a shounen and real physics dont apply 90% of the time? and again it wasnt a strength clash, go watch it again. it was a haki clash. strength had nothing to do w it. u reaching on this one.

  • @Raidsage
    @Raidsage Год назад +28

    You know you’re powerful when people call you white beard even tho you have no signs of having a beard and no dares to ask you why

    • @amir1780
      @amir1780 Месяц назад +1

      Ofc its a Beard...
      Its a Mustache

  • @Friendly_G
    @Friendly_G Год назад +41

    I still don't get why people day akainu can square up with a prime whitbeard. They made it incredibly obvious that whitebeard was heavily nerfed and wasn't really moving around and dodging attacks... well that's because he couldn't. Dude is nerfed

    • @jaydentimsans425
      @jaydentimsans425 3 месяца назад +3

      Prime WB is on another level akainu would have no chance even against old WB with no injurys he'd be done

    • @trashking1867
      @trashking1867 3 месяца назад +2

      He was already close to death due to his illness

    • @Averageundertaleplayer
      @Averageundertaleplayer 2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah, also some idiots think that akainu the rat can beat garp the goat

    • @mennnn972
      @mennnn972 15 дней назад

      That is far from the truth, It was made obvious that the admirals were holding back in Marineford to not accidentally harm the island or their allies, they literally can fight for 10 days and change the weather of an entire island. Kainu shouldve gotten stronger after his fight aokiji too

    • @mennnn972
      @mennnn972 15 дней назад

      ​@@Averageundertaleplayersounds like you are salty about aces death. Pretty childish ngl

  • @aboringotakuwhoisntnamedky3260
    @aboringotakuwhoisntnamedky3260 Год назад +21

    Primebeard’s willpower is insane when you think about it… on marineford he has the tenacity of a man intending to die… think about the strength of a man fighting to live

  • @Sercular
    @Sercular Год назад +37

    I still to this day believe that S. Hawk will have the slice slice fruit cause I want to see the worlds greatest sword-man swordsman.

    • @buster64
      @buster64 Год назад +6

      how do you feel being correct?

  • @PawRado
    @PawRado Год назад +18

    He knew the one piece was real. That’s the real power! Lol good video bro!

    • @MARSHALLDPREACH
      @MARSHALLDPREACH  Год назад +3

      Thanks bro!

    • @demetriusevans8407
      @demetriusevans8407 Год назад +1

      I agree he knew what the one piece is Roger told him for sure

    • @nicholascharles9625
      @nicholascharles9625 Год назад +2

      @@demetriusevans8407 nah we see Roger and him talking and Roger after finding it but before handing himself into the marines asked whitebeard if he wanted to know what the one piece was and whitebeard declined saying he didn't care.

    • @Treating-World-Love
      @Treating-World-Love 3 месяца назад

      ​@@MARSHALLDPREACHhear me out bro. I feel Imu has hidden young clones of Rocks Rodgers WB Big mom Garp to go against luffy last resort to take him down.
      Trump card Ace Sepherim
      play with luffy heart to defeat him make him prisoner execution
      Imu never put bodies in grave-I feel Imu hiding and waiting bring them out like how stussy is clone.

  • @theblackshawarma3605
    @theblackshawarma3605 Год назад +18

    I honestly believe "the strongest man alive" doesn't even mean physically. Whitebeard could have just ended the world in a melancholic phase, plain and simple. Still, he chose not to.

    • @silverarrow2013
      @silverarrow2013 Год назад +1

      Bcuz it is Strength why he's called Strongest Man, didn't you hear Sengoku story about Rocks. Rocks was winning until Roger showed up and helped Garp, It's possible Roger entered his Prime earlier than Whitebeard and Garp that's why he could match up against Rocks.
      The World Government kept it secret and gave Garp all the praise bcuz they didn't want the people knowing Roger a Pirate helped the Marines bcuz that shows weakness on their side humiliation.
      Power wise Rogers abilities was far superior than anyone in their ERA, there was a story of Drunk Roger almost Destroyed an entire Country bcuz someone said something about his Friends.
      He was wrecking people with only his Haki he doesn't have a DF, he was feared by his raw power.
      But not gonna lie I like Whitebeard better than Roger.

    • @AstroSully
      @AstroSully Год назад +2

      I think it does. If not BB would have the title but he doesn't.

    • @vemcrray
      @vemcrray 2 месяца назад

      @@AstroSully BB is dogshit cant even 1v1 a weak WB

  • @ifantsaurells3014
    @ifantsaurells3014 Год назад +41

    Whitebeard Best Moment..
    The OnePiece Does Exists....

  • @blackirontarkus3156
    @blackirontarkus3156 Год назад +6

    Haven’t even gotten far enough into the anime to see Whitebeard, but he’s already my favorite character. Definitely gonna make him in Elden Ring when I get off work💯

  • @flip4269
    @flip4269 Год назад +27

    Wait if sengoku saw how powerful he was during the god valley incident.

  • @balakaeman
    @balakaeman Год назад +1

    i would love this kind of video about shanks/mihawk/katakuri!

  • @flashkirby101
    @flashkirby101 Месяц назад +1

    For real Giga chin. Can hold his chin to grinder and sparks will fly everywhere. Truly refined. Gurarararara.

  • @PopeDuwang
    @PopeDuwang 5 месяцев назад +2

    I wonder how Strong Roger was prior to him being ill. Even during that one clash with Primebeard (during the Oden Flashback), he was still suffering from his illness at the time (why Crocus was on the crew at that time period).

  • @spence4346
    @spence4346 Год назад +4

    I would love a mini series or something telling whitebeards story. how he got his fruit, some of his epic fights, etc

    • @Rony049
      @Rony049 10 месяцев назад +1

      That sounds amazing!
      We would probably see more about WB in the God Valley incident flashback if we get one and hopefully see what he did after like him starting his own crew

  • @empy.powf.u
    @empy.powf.u 9 месяцев назад

    ey loved this vid 🎉 fanx

  • @Thrillr
    @Thrillr Год назад +15

    Whitebeard was my favorite character til Shanks kept pulled up
    I like this theory Rocks D. Xebec being the best Haki user

  • @patmanley9215
    @patmanley9215 Год назад +1

    Great video do one for Big Mom

  • @st_king_jay
    @st_king_jay Год назад +21

    Whitebeard got the title of WSM even before the great age of pirates. That means, he's above Roger. Dude could have become PK but literally helped Roger become PK. My man built different.

    • @ricardorivera7549
      @ricardorivera7549 Год назад +1

      cappp. the vivre card says its just a title, and it literally says that his title doesnt refer to his power level. He was rogers rival while roger was on cancer stage 45. good for him.

    • @AstroSully
      @AstroSully Год назад +5

      @@ricardorivera7549 So Mihawk isn't the WSSM then? You're gonna ignore the fact he fought Roger even before his sickness and Roger was said to be in peak condition by crocus even with the sickness? 0 logic.

    • @rinka3768
      @rinka3768 Год назад +5

      ​@@ricardorivera7549 Roger's illness did not affect his strength. Crocus, his doctor who prolonged his life for years, said so.

    • @rinka3768
      @rinka3768 Год назад +4

      ​@@AstroSully Roger fans simply always use the illness as an excuse. They prefer to ignore Crocus' speech. I don't understand, why can't they just accept that Roger isn't the strongest? In practice, even Garp is stronger than him, after all Garp didn't need any legendary weapons in duels.

    • @AstroSully
      @AstroSully Год назад +5

      @@rinka3768 True. I still have Roger and Gar as equals though. Using a blade is just another way of transmitting your haki. But yeah people ignore that WB and Roger fought multiple times. WB said they fought so many times he remembers every single face on Roger’s ship. The one we saw was there last duel. They weren’t even serious on that one.

  • @christianolson8543
    @christianolson8543 Год назад +2

    Oda is such a genius man. He knows we love to speculate, and he releases details about a massive battle involving all of the strongest characters, and gives us the results of said battle, but doesn’t release any of the details of how it transpired when there are thousands of scenarios that could’ve played out. Now we’re sitting here speculating and having fun with it, getting us more engaged in the story and its characters. Eventually there will be a huge pay off where we see what happened at God Valley and Oda will blow our minds once again while allowing all of these powerful characters to shine in their own way. He just knows what he’s doing.

  • @jasontchoudjen9740
    @jasontchoudjen9740 Год назад +12

    You should do a how strong is current Shanks?

  • @gerardocovarrubias3058
    @gerardocovarrubias3058 Год назад +4

    Also do you think Whitebeard big mom kaido and Gold Lion Shiki awaken there devil fruit powers or just white beard and shiki also do you think if whitebeard new the territory of wano that way he could have gone there and Avenged Oden name to protect oden legacy

  • @Ramonnnn
    @Ramonnnn Год назад +3

    Roger, whitebeard and dont forget Garp, he was on at least the same level as both of them in his prime.. the monster trio of their time in a way even though they were all rivals.. those 3 were real monsters

  • @vaporwingfauxmcloud1190
    @vaporwingfauxmcloud1190 Год назад +10

    Roger and Whitebeard were both parallels just like Luffy and Kid... or both sides of the same coin like Luffy and Black Beard

    • @Dave_of_Mordor
      @Dave_of_Mordor Год назад

      kid is lame...

    • @hasuwary
      @hasuwary Год назад +6

      Eustass Captain MID LUL :D

    • @Shark-hn4mv
      @Shark-hn4mv Год назад +4

      Whitebeard actually kept up with Roger. Kidd can't even keep up with Luffy even with Law's help. Luffy's actual rival is the bomb that KO'd Big Mom.

    • @jixseyloportacion9177
      @jixseyloportacion9177 Год назад +5

      Blackbeard = evil Whitebeard who kills his family and wants to find the One Piece to presumably rule the world

    • @coltonhopperstad1890
      @coltonhopperstad1890 Год назад

      Kidd is not close to Luffy AT ALL

  • @NankTanker
    @NankTanker Год назад +1

    Just started the bid but the thumbnail made me think, they were fairly equal in terms of haki, so whiteboards DF would probably work on Roger

  • @vladorac6
    @vladorac6 Год назад +2

    Is Oden underrated? A video idea looking at odens feats and estimating how he compares to admirals or yonkos for example. I think he suffers from having to take an L from both prime wb and prime roger despite that he didn´t get intimitated in the slightest lol.

    • @ricardorivera7549
      @ricardorivera7549 Год назад

      yeah!! i saw the other day people saying Oden is no more than YC2 level (cuz he was technically WBs second commander). this is why i hate powerscalers. How can u fault the guy for losing against the 2 strongest pirates ever. hee is fs up there

  • @andrewdaugherty6870
    @andrewdaugherty6870 Год назад +24

    Not very many people have looked at this way, love the idea of white beard being stronger than Roger. He does hold the title of strongest after all🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @piratekingzoro7386
      @piratekingzoro7386 Год назад

      Are you dumb? Pirate king inferior to another person ? You realize that Rogers was sick when having fun fighting wb ? Pirate king >> strongest man

    • @silverarrow2013
      @silverarrow2013 Год назад

      Strongest is different from Powerful. Strongest means physical strength. Power wise like Haki Roger got that in the bag, Whitebeard couldn't beat his own Captain Roger and Garp did though. But it was probably mainly Roger bcuz on Sengoku story Garp was having problems against Rocks until they decided to Tag Team with Roger. But since the Government didn't want the world to know Roger helped Garp got all the attention and praise.

    • @AstroSully
      @AstroSully Год назад +4

      @@silverarrow2013 Why would WB beat Rocks? He wasn't even in his prime.

    • @Dawg_mcpe
      @Dawg_mcpe Год назад +4

      ​@@AstroSully lol just ignore that kid

    • @AstroSully
      @AstroSully Год назад +1

      @@Dawg_mcpe 💯

  • @MalluDluffy
    @MalluDluffy Год назад +6

    Only character that confirmed stronger than WB is Rocks

  • @Yuwesos
    @Yuwesos Год назад +1

    I think Whitebeard was the factor that shiftet the outcome of the god valley accident. The relationship he had with roger could had his origin in the betray of whitebeard against Rocks.

  • @a.w.h_957
    @a.w.h_957 Год назад +4

    preach was spitting in that intro lmao

    • @MARSHALLDPREACH
      @MARSHALLDPREACH  Год назад

      Thanks bro. Had to gas up the strongest man before we get into it💪

  • @GalaxyCatPlays
    @GalaxyCatPlays Год назад

    A White beard video this is gonna be epic!

  • @danieljoseph3013
    @danieljoseph3013 Год назад +8

    A lot of wb’s bounty comes from his territories. Just like the other yonko. Roger is the only yonko type character that doesn’t own any place.

    • @Easson_
      @Easson_ Год назад +1

      Source?

    • @Friendly_G
      @Friendly_G Год назад +5

      @@Easson_ source: trust me bro

    • @Easson_
      @Easson_ Год назад

      @@Friendly_G that source keep showing up😁

    • @ricardorivera7549
      @ricardorivera7549 Год назад +1

      roger surely benefitted from knowing the secrets of the lost century and the one piece and being king of the pirates. His bounty was high for that reason too.

    • @danieljoseph3013
      @danieljoseph3013 Год назад

      @@Easson_ the more places under your belt, the more people associated with your criminal activities. I thought that was obvious.

  • @BramoStork
    @BramoStork Год назад +3

    You didnt mention : His weapon is one of the 12 grand supreme blades, just like mihawks sword.

  • @fraudhawk2774
    @fraudhawk2774 Год назад +3

    Make next video on Prime Garp or prime Ray

    • @MARSHALLDPREACH
      @MARSHALLDPREACH  Год назад

      i’m doing the rocks pirates and then I’ll do those! 👍

  • @MARSHALLDPREACH
    @MARSHALLDPREACH  Год назад +8

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  • @eternalmaximum6899
    @eternalmaximum6899 11 месяцев назад

    Can you do one on shiki

  • @zoro1967
    @zoro1967 Год назад +3

    Whitebeard as power to destroy the world and in the war his devil is the best power to sink any ship or destroy any army and island. His devil fruit powder makes him more dangerous but in 1v1 i would go for roger

  • @jeyeldc4423
    @jeyeldc4423 Год назад

    I always thought that the term "destroy the world" was a coin to those spots/island/volcanoes in the new world and if they're destroyed it will literally sink the new world. this was in film Z btw so its not cannon.

  • @GalaxyCatPlays
    @GalaxyCatPlays Год назад

    Well I have watched lots of animes LOL, and so usually a simple dream character such as "I want to have a normal family" is stronger than a character like "I want to be pirate king". honestly, I like that because its common in animes but that makes the whole story debatable and so more fun ;). But it's true that people downplay devil fruits because image law with the most broken Haki just throwing other devil fruit users in the water. lmao, but also, I forgot if whitebeard awakened his fruit or not but if he didn't image what he could do.

  • @jeanchris128
    @jeanchris128 Год назад +9

    True son, a fraud, an experiment or a clone, or whatever he might be, people should give more respect to Weevil when it boils down to power scaling. Kizaru said that Weevil is as strong as young Whitebeard... If Kaido and Big Mom are in the top 10, then Weevil should be there as well.

    • @MARSHALLDPREACH
      @MARSHALLDPREACH  Год назад +2

      He’s definitely strong. But it seems he’s not smart enough to use that power in the same way as someone like wb

    • @ricardorivera7549
      @ricardorivera7549 Год назад

      i mean im sure he meant physically. Weevil lacks the strongest paramecia, the gura gura no mi, the conquerors haki that WB had and he is clearly dumb as a rock so he lacks the IQ. or even the weapon. WB blade was one of the supreme grades.

    • @liljay300000
      @liljay300000 Год назад

      uh he is in no way top 10. Intelligence plays a role both in someone's planning as well in how well they are able to fight.

    • @ricardorivera7549
      @ricardorivera7549 Год назад

      @@liljay300000 exactly. also kizaru could have meant just weevils raw strength. still lacking the OP devil fruit, the conquerors haki, the experience etc.

    • @ricardorivera7549
      @ricardorivera7549 Год назад

      @@liljay300000 even WBs spear or whatever it was was a supreme grade weapon. Weevil fights w a normal weapon as far as we know

  • @bigchad60
    @bigchad60 Год назад

    I agree with you soooooo much

  • @Sun_Tzu1
    @Sun_Tzu1 Год назад

    His hockey was really strong. Super hockey. I am a big hockey fan too. Go hockey.

  • @itsjustwaterrr5948
    @itsjustwaterrr5948 Год назад +1

    i think roger was familiar with rocks crew and probably fought them on multiple occasions

  • @ErickE.Gonzalez
    @ErickE.Gonzalez 11 дней назад

    Would like to see black bearrd vs kaido what if

  • @adityaagarwal659
    @adityaagarwal659 5 месяцев назад

    White beard's raw strength was on another level he was able to stop his ship with just one hand while he was dying

  • @Turner863
    @Turner863 Год назад +1

    What if BB takes Coby to the Cross Guild for a temporary alliance?

  • @kevenkent1
    @kevenkent1 Год назад +5

    If I’ve learned anything in one piece is your will in your ambitions Are key your strength which is why I have Roger over white beard. White beard and ambition with his family. Roger was the king of the pirates for Rogers ambition was superior in that aspect

    • @erwannthietart3602
      @erwannthietart3602 Год назад +3

      I wouldnt say Roger's ambition was superior in any way, its simply differant Whitebeard said it himself when he said he found a treasure even greater than the One piece, for Roger the One piece was his whole life ambition, for WB his familly was.
      Unless you want to imply that Rogers will for the One piece is superior to Whitebeards "gonna go war with the whole World Governement (aka most of the world) cus one of my son is in danger"

    • @poonampandey7278
      @poonampandey7278 Месяц назад

      Roger and luffy are at their strongest when they have to protect their crew.
      And there is Whitebeard who literally considers his entire crew his family.
      Whitebeard was the strongest because he simply had to be.
      And Roger didn't even want to be pk.
      That's just a title given to him by Morgan.

  • @Rony049
    @Rony049 10 месяцев назад +1

    Whitebeard is just majestic

  • @primesonic4459
    @primesonic4459 Год назад +2

    I'm think ONLY Whitebeard and Roger are ever called the 'Great Pirate'
    (So far)

  • @sunshinesalt5977
    @sunshinesalt5977 Год назад +2

    Prime Raleigh video would be awesome

    • @MARSHALLDPREACH
      @MARSHALLDPREACH  Год назад +1

      Will come eventually! I really want to do Rayleigh

  • @lordaragon901
    @lordaragon901 Год назад +6

    I don’t actually think Rocks was stronger than Garp or Roger, cuz Garp and Roger had to team up sure, but they had to fight the whole of Rocks’s crew, that included Shikki, Whitebeard, Kaido, and Big Mom, and Rocks ended up dead after the fight. I think in terms of individual strength among the pirates, from highest to lowest it would be Whitebeard, Roger (very extremely close btw), and then a decent gap from Roger to Rocks, definitely a bigger gap than Roger and Whitebeard. If I had to make an estimate I’d say Rocks’s strength was probably similar to Shanks rn, definitely strong enough to contend with Whitebeard, Garp, and Roger, but not exactly as strong let alone stronger as/than any of those characters per say. Instead, I think that he was definitely the strongest of his crew, but remember that at that time Whitebeard wasn’t strong enough to fight the likes of Roger or Garp yet as he wasn’t exactly in his prime yet. And Kaido and Big Mom? Current Luffy with just his advanced haki and gear 2nd would pack both of them even at once. Kaido currently is still in his prime and he was getting his butt kicked until he used his DF and even then it was close, even before Luffy’s DF awakening, and to think current Kaido is now in his prime with full mastery of his haki and DF but still heavily struggled against Luffy. So I’d say Whitebeard at the time when he was part of Rocks’ crew was probs as strong as current Kaido, while Kaido and Big Mom at the time were about as strong as current Sanji or Katakuri at best. Enough to force an alliance between Roger and Garp, but obviously as they were defeated, not strong enough to win.

    • @ricardorivera7549
      @ricardorivera7549 Год назад +3

      gthat begs the question tho, why would BM, Whitebeard, Shiki, Shakky, and all this amazing pirates, many w conquerors haki, would join under a man weaker than them. also it was stated that rocks was a more formidable rival to roger, even above whitebeard. Lastly, Kaido puts Rocks in the same tier as roger whitebeard shanks and oden as capable of defeating him. so he is fs up there.

    • @ricardorivera7549
      @ricardorivera7549 Год назад +1

      Rocks was probably in his time stronger than wb BM and roger and the rest, they reached their primes after the god valley incident too.

    • @lordaragon901
      @lordaragon901 Год назад +3

      @@ricardorivera7549 that’s what I was saying, if you compared Rocks to everybody else’s prime, it would’ve been different. As it was in their prime, Whitebeard alone could 1v1 Roger for days, so if Whitebeard was as strong as Roger during the god valley incident, Roger and Garp wouldn’t have won. Cuz judging by the fact that Roger and Garp defeated Rocks and his whole crew which included Whitebeard, Kaido, Big Mom and Shikki then I wouldn’t have made sense if Rocks was stronger than prime Roger. It would’ve made sense that he was a very difficult opponent but also not stronger than prime Whitebeard or prime Roger if his level of strength was similar to Shanks. After all, Kaido placed both Rocks and Shanks on his list, and it would’ve matched up quite nicely, Roger or Garp would’ve struggled a lot fighting him individually, and Whitebeard and the rest of the Rocks pirates before their prime definitely would’ve respected his strength a lot. Meanwhile Roger and Garp together would’ve definitely been able to beat prime Shanks, so it makes sense.

    • @Rony049
      @Rony049 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@lordaragon901 I agree with what you said and it makes perfect sense 👌
      If we go by everyone in their primes then it would be
      WB and Roger as pretty much equals but WB has the OP fruit along with his incredible physical stats which could change things up
      Followed by Garp who is always viewed to be relatively on par with Roger
      And Rocks being just behind them in power

    • @Globalsouthlander
      @Globalsouthlander 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@Rony049 after watching Crocodile and Mohawk join Buggy. I realized Rocks Xebex might turn out to be another extremely lucky clown like Buggy, with unfathomable charisma and knowledge.

  • @JaeBcYes
    @JaeBcYes 6 месяцев назад

    Edward D. Newgate sounds so natural to say

  • @ryangiermanski2752
    @ryangiermanski2752 Год назад +3

    Can u do Akainu he’s a top tier all time

  • @mattjohnson2667
    @mattjohnson2667 Год назад +1

    I think the main problem is they would never really fight each other at their strongest. Roger is Legendary for fighting his best when his men are behind him. But if Roger knows Whitebeard wont wipe out his crew if he falls, he probably can't go all out. Whitebeard at Marine ford waivered for a second because his body couldn't do what he wanted any more. But if his sons future isn't going to be bright in his absence he will find the strength and stamina to take the threat to hell with him. and i don't see roger messing with his boys that much.

  • @aaronjonsson6788
    @aaronjonsson6788 Год назад

    Another reason he literally had a part of his head melted off and didn’t die and he was a senior

  • @Rmat7
    @Rmat7 Месяц назад +1

    I agree that white beard could have been stronger. He was on par with Rodger while not caring about power or glory. Give him Rodgers mindset and he would have been more powerful

  • @BaKi-iw6kd
    @BaKi-iw6kd 29 дней назад +1

    WB was insanely strong I can’t imagine how strong he was at his prime

    • @GIVEPROOFKID
      @GIVEPROOFKID 4 дня назад

      Well go off the fact that even wild sick and old as hell he could match shanks adv conq and split the skies

  • @cristianoromanini2197
    @cristianoromanini2197 Год назад +1

    King of the seas

  • @SlashinatorZ
    @SlashinatorZ Год назад +3

    Prime Whitebeard vs Current Blackbeard

    • @Apersonfarfaraway
      @Apersonfarfaraway Год назад +5

      Not even close Prime WB wipes him with mid-high difficulty.

  • @scoro64
    @scoro64 Год назад +3

    Roger and Whitebeard are the top 2 greatest men to have ever lived in the one piece universe.

  • @sakardhital4690
    @sakardhital4690 Год назад

    You didn't talk about whitebeard devil fruit awakening which would give him tremendous power boost

  • @SlashinatorZ
    @SlashinatorZ Год назад

    I made a Sabaton AMV for Whitebeard

  • @Mithran3998
    @Mithran3998 Год назад

    I think he must not be kept down in haki below garp and Roger i think they are in equal level of haki

  • @Friendly_G
    @Friendly_G Год назад +3

    Isn't it wierd how the older generation was extremely more powerful than the current? I mean the past 2 generations are still squaring up with the new one

  • @gerardocovarrubias3058
    @gerardocovarrubias3058 Год назад +2

    Make more vids like how strong is shanks luffy prime Roger lastly when you get more information about dragon teach mihawk make how strong are them

  • @Karrrddooo
    @Karrrddooo 7 месяцев назад

    We all know that Roger and Whitebeard is the most respectable and greatest pirates in world history

  • @khalilsart8189
    @khalilsart8189 5 месяцев назад

    to sums it up he's so strong that nobody in the whole world corrected him and fuck around that it's a mustache that he grew and not a beard

  • @GalaxyCatPlays
    @GalaxyCatPlays Год назад

    I would say White beard is stronger but then I believe that roger was an early candidate of Joy boy but he was just to early and so roger usually had fate on his side.

  • @Yami1300
    @Yami1300 Год назад

    Yonko seem to great eachother by smaking one another.Letting steam they usually can't

  • @a.w.h_957
    @a.w.h_957 Год назад +2

    weevil is a failed clone of WB, was saved by Dr hogback from thriller bark

  • @GTS-dh9wj
    @GTS-dh9wj Год назад

    Blackbeard vs Shanks
    Kuzan vs Beckman
    Shiryu vs Lucky roo
    Burgess vs bongo

  • @BruhArjun
    @BruhArjun 5 месяцев назад

    Bro so Chad, he grew a moustache to called himself Whitebeard and no one dared question him.

  • @gerardocovarrubias3058
    @gerardocovarrubias3058 Год назад +5

    Prime Whitebeard was the strongest he possessed all three types of advance haki and the strongest most powerful devil fruit in the paramecia class I'm sure he was the right-hand man of rocks and was more stronger than big mom and kaido combined Prime Whitebeard could beat both of them easily also he was the one closest to one piece some say sakazuki if he was the main protagonist could find one piece in one year but Whitebeard if he was main protagonist was closest to one piece see what I mean

    • @heavenlyway108
      @heavenlyway108 Год назад

      bullshit , if he was he would beat roger no diff but he did not because his devil fruit means nothing in a fight where you fighting a haki master like roger

    • @gerardocovarrubias3058
      @gerardocovarrubias3058 Год назад

      So what you're right Whitebeard was not above Rodger but below but he was above garp shiki sengoku big mom and kaido

    • @okashira073
      @okashira073 Год назад

      @@heavenlyway108 disgusting idiot confirmed.... you dont even know what haki is HELL we dont even know how haki truly works... strongest man > a man.... roger became the PK LITERALLY LITERALLY LITERALLY thanks to wb.... his motive wasnt to become the pk but to have a big family and his title was given along the way....
      WB and roger equally clashed using haki ONLY!!!... wb wasnt even using his DF... the man is nerf from the get go since he is so strong he would kill his own family without even wanting to but he holds back by default.... THATS HOW DAMN STRONG HE IS, RESPECT THE STORY ALREADY AND CUT YOUR BULLSHIT... he showed equal conqueror's with roger AND EVEN IF ROGER HAS BETTER HAKI wb has more stuff in his arsenal and a title that proves without a doubt who is the strongest... if he wasnt stronger he wouldnt have gotten the title and roger wouldnt ackowledge him as someone worthy of being the PK but wb turned roger's offer proving he is a gigachad and people like you have 2 braincells fighting for the 3rd place
      "but roger was sick" his sickness had no cure therefore its something noninterchangeable so he is scaled with it... its like saying shanks is the strongest EVER because "IF HE HAD 2 ARMS" NO!!!
      he is perma sick and thats it... and even if he wasnt we dont know how much stronger he would be so scaling him WITHOUT IT its LITERALLY an alter dimensional take LOL... according to the author himself whitebeard got his WSM title right when oden joined his crew which is about 7 freaking years before roger became the PK....
      roger wanted to tell wb how to find the one piece meaning roger KNEW that man was AT LEAST as capable as him YET one of them has the title of the absolutte strongest while the other got his title LITERALLY thanks to the very same person we comparing him right now...
      idiots like you think when someone doesnt have a df but is a haki master he gets somewhat of a boost.... NO a great haki can boost even further a great df user yet people act like having a DF is a nerf or shame...
      whitebeard is the only man known to be planetery... WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT HERE? just stfu already you roger fanboys are pathetic.... If roger didnt become the PK nobody would be arguing YET that same title was given THANKS TO THE LITERAL STRONGEST.... pathetic beyond belief

    • @okashira073
      @okashira073 Год назад

      he is known to be ONLY advanced COC user so far, i know he is the strongest but without having a confirmation people giving TO ANYONE abilities they havent shown or to be confirmed users of them is literally headcanon, all and all your represantion is cool exept prime WB > kaido & big mom combined UNLESS you talk about back in the day when kaido and linlin werent at their peak

    • @gerardocovarrubias3058
      @gerardocovarrubias3058 Год назад

      How do you know garp was more stronger than Whitebeard

  • @behraddanehsfar7608
    @behraddanehsfar7608 4 месяца назад

    IS it me or am i hearing gigachad theme in the background

  • @shady8045
    @shady8045 6 месяцев назад

    I think his durability was only lackluster cause he couldn't use ACOC, so it probably wouldn't have been bad at all in his prime.

  • @3looy
    @3looy Год назад +1

    My favorite one piece character

  • @BramoStork
    @BramoStork Год назад +1

    10:04 - no, oda stated in the ace novel, shanks became famous because he duelled with mihawk, mihawk was already famous before the great pirate era. Mihawk getting the title after beating shanks, is a debunked theorie which many still believe. Mihawk is portrayed stronger than shanks in 1 vs 1 - just deal with it 👌

  • @mradtat3133
    @mradtat3133 Год назад +3

    I think wb may have had been physically stronger than Roger but Rogers Haki dwarfs wb and anyone else's

  • @yung_amr6056
    @yung_amr6056 Год назад

    Monster

  • @RS-rv9ie
    @RS-rv9ie Год назад

    He is just like all might in his prime

  • @unknown27200
    @unknown27200 5 месяцев назад

    Well Roger also was ill with an unknown disease while he was in his prime

  • @experiencedotaku171
    @experiencedotaku171 Год назад +1

    Whiteboard is stronger than Rojar but Rojar pirates are stronger than Whitebeard pirates

  • @my.pfp.say.it.all.5u5
    @my.pfp.say.it.all.5u5 Год назад +2

    did Roger's sickness have an affect on his power like old wb

    • @MARSHALLDPREACH
      @MARSHALLDPREACH  Год назад +1

      I think so, it’s unclear how much but he was dying

    • @xicorgaming6814
      @xicorgaming6814 Год назад +2

      Nope what the hell a one piece crontent creator doesn't know about it? Alright fine listen. It didn't had affect on Roger's strength it was taking his life span something similar as luffy. Luffy's life span has shorten a lot but it actually don't have any affect on his strength.

    • @my.pfp.say.it.all.5u5
      @my.pfp.say.it.all.5u5 Год назад

      @@xicorgaming6814 that's cap it definitely have an effect

  • @DeezNoos
    @DeezNoos Год назад

    they better chose wisely where they finna fight cuz that joint finna sink

  • @marcusc9931
    @marcusc9931 Год назад +3

    The Japanese language has one word for all of the facial hair, so his moustache counts.

  • @nothinghappened7133
    @nothinghappened7133 Год назад +2

    I think roger is more stronger but still that monster devil fruit makes this debatable

  • @THE-DarklordYT
    @THE-DarklordYT 2 месяца назад

    Puffy pls

  • @zukamimo8504
    @zukamimo8504 Год назад

    Luffy x Nami at the end GGWP :P

  • @RenzoArai
    @RenzoArai 2 месяца назад

    Akainu would have grateful of not faced this Whitebeard, he wouldn’t survived the Quake punch with his full strenght and Haoshoku infussion

  • @sarthakpandey9194
    @sarthakpandey9194 5 месяцев назад

    Whitebeard is the Shaq of One Piece while Roger is Kobe

  • @permanentlybored195
    @permanentlybored195 Год назад +2

    This is why i think garp is strong af. He pulled up to roger with no crew. Roger had oden rayleigh gaban and himself.

    • @piratekingzoro7386
      @piratekingzoro7386 Год назад

      You retarded young man garp wasn’t fighting them all he barely had matches with Rogers just like coby with luffy

    • @permanentlybored195
      @permanentlybored195 Год назад

      @@piratekingzoro7386 yes, going for a insult so people will react to that rather then your bullshit claim. Very effective. Could have been more effective if you knew what grammar was.

    • @piratekingzoro7386
      @piratekingzoro7386 Год назад

      @@permanentlybored195one piece fandom is just annoying with their worst power scaling

  • @bachenzo421
    @bachenzo421 Год назад

    Luffy x Nami at the end GGWP :)

  • @PrancingGoldfish
    @PrancingGoldfish Год назад +1

    Ultimately, I see Roger and Whitebeard as equals. Both could defeat each other, it just depends on circumstances.
    And regarding Shiki "never challenging" Whitebeard, we have no way to verify that. Both sailed the seas for decades and almost assuredly ran into each other many times. We don't know the full day to day and every single fight of Whitebeards time as a pirate, so to just 100% declare that Shiki NEVER challenged Whitebeard feels a little misguided.

  • @GTS-dh9wj
    @GTS-dh9wj Год назад

    7:34

  • @engineeringkitchen9323
    @engineeringkitchen9323 Год назад +1

    Roger-WB-Raylee.
    Shanks-Mihawk-Beck.
    Luffy-Zoro-Sanji.

  • @ajspooner8485
    @ajspooner8485 Год назад

    and i don’t believe it was awakened right so imagine that

  • @Meliodas-uv1tp
    @Meliodas-uv1tp Год назад +1

    Whitebeard was in his prime during the fight while roger was extremely nerfed

    • @vinadkc
      @vinadkc Год назад

      YES! I was gonna say that, when they fought on that Island for 3 days and they ended it on a technical draw, Roger was already diagnosed with his terminal illness... In his prime and when he was healthy Roger was definitely superior.

    • @AstroSully
      @AstroSully Год назад +1

      They've fought multiple times before that. Also Roger was said to be in peak condition even with his sickness a year prior to that fight in the Edd War.

    • @rinka3768
      @rinka3768 Год назад

      ​@@vinadkc Source: Trust me bro

    • @vinadkc
      @vinadkc Год назад

      @@rinka3768 yeah you're right that is my source, i ate the brain brain fruit.

  • @abdosoliman
    @abdosoliman 6 месяцев назад

    There is a reason Oda made WhiteBeard old and dying. Some abilities are just so broken you can't possibly convince anybody a man with such power can lose period.
    If WhiteBeard wasn't dying and holding back at the same time he could have easily sank MarineFord to the bottom of the sea. Now imagine such creature in his prime with killer intent he can't lose, all it takes is a single earth quake and the enemy's ship or island will sink to the bottom of the sea, there is no need to fight not that fighting him would have any difference anyway.