Its interesting to see that this Optimus Primal acted much more bitter and darker compared to Season 1. He was much less naive and less optimistic. Death killed a lot of his "optimism" (pun intended)
Fun Fact: Optimus Primal was a jet type autobot before arriving to Earth, and the blank slate he's downloaded into was intended to be a Cybertronian surfer/riot cop(?), but Hasbro nicked the idea, so the Devs compromised the models, which is why the result was a bit off in synergy
3:36 I don't know who came up with a genius idea of having a robot gorilla riding on a rocket surfboard, but whoever that person was, I sure hope they got a pay raise.
When I was young, Optimus's death was the last episode in Korea because, I remember, later episodes were not imported anymore. I was shocked and learned good side do not win always.
If you can understand English well enough the complete series is on a free streaming service called Tubi including the episodes after this and the Sequel series Beast Machines.
One thing that always got me about the end of this series, they still had a lot of stasis pods floating around in space when they went back to Cybertron.
He is basically Astral Projecting, it is posible he could see all the "spiritual" entities nearby, including the sparks of the Autobots hybernating in the Ark, and the Matrix of Leadership would be like a giant spark, a lighthouse among tiny matches.
I admit the moment I saw this scene I cheered like nobody's business, and I think I might've gotten the other neighbors attention thinking something was wrong with me😅
I’ll never forget the free “Beast Wars” VHS my brother and I got at Kay B Toys for buying Inferno. The tape had the first 2 episodes of season 2 and it was watched to death and awesome!
What ? In Other Visits Part 1 everybody transforms to robot mode in the same scene. Megatron blasts Optimus in robot mode in the Agenda Part 2. Optimus is also in robot mode when Megatron gets captured by Ravage the episode prior, and they both can be seen in the same shot.
I always wondered How was primeal able to come back being blown to bits and just assumed he just made his way back to the planet after the explosion with his surfboard
My biggest complaint with this version is that it didn't stick around long. I would have also liked Rhinox getting a transmetal body in the cartoon. I know after BM, the remaining Vox reborn ecreated him into a transmetal body to help fix things.
From what I heard the reason why Rhinox never got a Transmetal upgrade in spite of the toy was because either the show's staff didn't want to make a new model for him or couldn't think of a way to make Rhinox more relevant at that part of the show beyond the "Medic and tech guy" type.
It kills me the fact that not only Rinox got out transmetal toy, but so did airrazor and tigertron.... the last two had to be killed off, which made me mad after going through so much with them....Just like Dinobot.
The Megatron scream reminds me of the scene in Demolition Man, where he screams at the car because it wont brake. "BRAKE NOW YOU MICKEY MOUSE PIECE OF SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!"
I remember the cartoonists weren't too happy with Transmetal Optimus not having major weaponry other than just a puny mace pistol. So they made their own fan mode with converting the backpack to some sort of machine gun harness. Still prefer more weapons though.
I agree. Taking his iconic faceguard was a big mistake and the way his legs work when he transforms is just bizarre. I certainly can't see Transmetal Optimus relaxing in beast mode the way base form Optimus did.
it's the blue gorilla has the most hate because he looks stupid they could've done something but they just made him blue like super blue not other colors that's it
I think the downgrade might’ve been planned with Optimus primal’s transmental form as he died, and the spark was brought back to a blink, stasis pod and that blank may or may not have been exposed to the trans warp explosion in his beast form look better than the robot form.
He had one in the toy line, but it was never adapted into the series. Besides, I believe Rhinox had to stay the "weak link" of the Maximals, in order for the Beast Machines' story to happen.
@@kelz2.0 He was, before the Transmetal upgrade. After it, Rattrap's power clearly surpassed Rhinox. Maybe not for much, but it did. Besides, as the Beast Wars progressed, Maximals and Predacons became more machines than organics. In the end, the ones who kept their "basic organic" ended up being the weakest on both sides.
I quite like the trans metal optimus. Love how the beast mode gets a hoverboard, gives me some silver surfer vibes. It’s mainly the robot mode I have issues with. The shield and turret are really cool but that face just doesn’t work for me
@@lucaswilliamson5905 story wise the reason some of the characters didn’t become transmetal was because they were born planet side so the time wave didn’t affect them while in the case of rhinox and waspinator they both were shielded by healing chambers
I have to be honest among all the Transmetal Versions that these characters been upgraded, I believe Optimus Primal is easily the worst one for me. Cause when he is Robot Mode, he looks a Jacked Up Gorilla Body Builder and it looks ....mmm I'm sorry, it looks weird and looks a walking robot furry. Even the Beast Mode looks too creepy. The only thing I like about this design is his Massize Machine Gun and he has Hoverboard. But I will say this, this design still looks alot better than his design in Rise Of The Beasts, like the Gorilla Mode is awesome, but Robot Mode looks bland, boring and no colour on him except for his green eyes. At least this design has colour even it's too bright in Beast Mode.
So does Transwarp space bridge the living world with the afterlife, or did Rhinox open a path through time to just before Optimus Primal died and his consciousness was transferred to another body?
Recuerdo cuando era chico y veía esta serie sin entenderle al inglés estando tan cerca de Estados unidos me gustaba mucho escuchar esas voces fue de la series q nunca ví dobladas
I never understood the difference between Optimus Primal/Prime or how both major bads were both called Megatron but interacted with the G1 versions... can some briefly explain? I've never been a fan of the Beast Wars/Machines, these were out when I was a child but the first I saw was the 1983 movie then Armada after that and kept up with til Cybertron and sort of stopped until Prime came out and loved the lore and the Cybertron games but I never understood how the Maximals and Predacons stood seperately, they wouldn't be very subtle either compared the Transformers we know and love and I'm not saying the Beastformers are bad, just not my cup of tea.
The Maximals and the Predacons are the descendants of the Autobots and the Decepticons respectively. Optimus Primal was a ship's captain, and is the descendant to Optimus Prime. Megatron, the Predacon one, is a criminal who renamed himself after the original Megatron, for the clout and intimidation factor. Beast Wars takes place on ancient Earth, while the Ark is still buried under rocks inside that volcano; The Maximals and Predacons don't realize they're on ancient Earth until season 2, eventually it was revealed the Predacon Megatron's actual goal was trying to get to primitive Earth all along, to kill Optimus Prime while he was comatose inside the Ark and change history. And he came pretty close to it.
...So I started with G1 and I'm deeply curious how you think that transforming into human-scale animals is less subtle than 10-30 feet high robots transforming. One of the things that always drew me to Beast Wars is that it's a lot easier for them to hide in their native environments and subtly transform than trying to disguise yourself as a car when you can easily break the ground by putting your foot down a little too fast as part of transforming.
@@AstralFireIX a giant metal robot transforming into a truck makes more sense than a giant metal robot transforming into a metal Gorilla, not exactly the best disguise for the setting of the movie being in the 90s, I'm not saying its a bad concept or that Beast Wars/Machines was bad, I'm well aware of the divided fans and that it weighs more on the side of fans who love it and I'm part of a minority that just didn't like it. The Predacons in Prime were cool though but I'll always prefer the vehicle modes over beast modes
I agree. I had the original and optimal Optimus toy as a kid. I didn't want Transmetal Optimus Primal. I didn't like the tiny legs and the face. He also look weird in beast mode. On the other hand I think Transmetal Megatron Look the Best. I didn't like Transmetal 2 Megatron. It was my Favorite beast wars toy. I wish I had the original form also. But I never find it when I was young.
I wonder if the pod they used was the third one you seen in the coming of fuzors episode. There was a scene in the storm where one of the pods had a hand that was lifeless due to its loss of spark
I think it was less about what they could animate and more about what could work as a toy. They can make anything transform to-from anything on TV, ie Beast Machines, but to sell toys the design has to work in the real world too. That's probably why they did the transmetal thing in the first place, new version of the character, new toy to sell.
Its interesting to see that this Optimus Primal acted much more bitter and darker compared to Season 1. He was much less naive and less optimistic. Death killed a lot of his "optimism" (pun intended)
TBF he died when he attempt to destroy the alien construct but Megatron sealed the pod.
3:00 when your team is losing but the pro player respawn in time
0:33 he screamed "MEGATRON!!!!" like his ancestor once
Fun Fact: Optimus Primal was a jet type autobot before arriving to Earth, and the blank slate he's downloaded into was intended to be a Cybertronian surfer/riot cop(?), but Hasbro nicked the idea, so the Devs compromised the models, which is why the result was a bit off in synergy
Ok that’s actually really cool!
I love how Rhinox went above and beyond to bring back Optimus Primal!
3:36
I don't know who came up with a genius idea of having a robot gorilla riding on a rocket surfboard, but whoever that person was, I sure hope they got a pay raise.
Optimus unlocked Funky Mode.
3:15 the "My turn" was always the best part. Done fucked up preds
You're not a true Prime until you've died and returned from the Matrix.
Twice.
When I was young, Optimus's death was the last episode in Korea because, I remember, later episodes were not imported anymore. I was shocked and learned good side do not win always.
If you can understand English well enough the complete series is on a free streaming service called Tubi including the episodes after this and the Sequel series Beast Machines.
It's honestly why I liked Beast Wars so much: They weren't afraid to let the bad guys win. And not just little things either.
@@R3dB0t1 theres also youtube channel called "als replays" and it has all of beast wars
One thing that always got me about the end of this series, they still had a lot of stasis pods floating around in space when they went back to Cybertron.
A comic followed up on the fate of the remaining and a second beast wars
Wouldn't they all be maximals or did the Darksyde drop them into orbit too I guess?@@moseskuria1234
They crashed down to Earth, Primal probably intended to inform the council to do a clean up operation.
That “MEGATRRRROOOOOONNNNN” is so iconic lol the scene that stood out most in my memory hands down
Some people are divided on this design, but I love it. It's just so out there. I like it better than his 3rd form.
Transmetal Optimus Primal: Well That's Just Prime!
Cheetor, “Big bot?!??!!”
Rhinox, “Yes…it work”
3:10!
Notice the little matrix of leadership floating around the bottom when Rhinox was searching ?
2:00 There
@@GeneralHeavy Indeed. 💭
He is basically Astral Projecting, it is posible he could see all the "spiritual" entities nearby, including the sparks of the Autobots hybernating in the Ark, and the Matrix of Leadership would be like a giant spark, a lighthouse among tiny matches.
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I admit the moment I saw this scene I cheered like nobody's business, and I think I might've gotten the other neighbors attention thinking something was wrong with me😅
Those transmetals sold a lot of toys for them! Lol
I’ll never forget the free “Beast Wars” VHS my brother and I got at Kay B Toys for buying Inferno. The tape had the first 2 episodes of season 2 and it was watched to death and awesome!
Such a sick design
Fun fact: both transmetal Optimus primal and megatron in robot mode never share screen time with each other, only their beast modes
What ? In Other Visits Part 1 everybody transforms to robot mode in the same scene. Megatron blasts Optimus in robot mode in the Agenda Part 2. Optimus is also in robot mode when Megatron gets captured by Ravage the episode prior, and they both can be seen in the same shot.
I still like this form ( not as much as I like transmetal Cheetor) However, I didn’t like how they removed all of Primal’s built in weapons.
Silverbolt: Consider That My Resignation From The Predacons, Megatron!
One thing that confused me is while BlackArachnia and Inferno were reprogrammed into predacons, Quickstrike just had the personality of one.
Silverbolt: I see now my place has always been with the maximals. May I join you?
A crown jewel in the transformers crown. Voices, writers this was a great three year series
I always wondered How was primeal able to come back being blown to bits and just assumed he just made his way back to the planet after the explosion with his surfboard
My biggest complaint with this version is that it didn't stick around long. I would have also liked Rhinox getting a transmetal body in the cartoon. I know after BM, the remaining Vox reborn
ecreated him into a transmetal body to help fix things.
From what I heard the reason why Rhinox never got a Transmetal upgrade in spite of the toy was because either the show's staff didn't want to make a new model for him or couldn't think of a way to make Rhinox more relevant at that part of the show beyond the "Medic and tech guy" type.
It kills me the fact that not only Rinox got out transmetal toy, but so did airrazor and tigertron.... the last two had to be killed off, which made me mad after going through so much with them....Just like Dinobot.
Transmetal Optimus Primal: We'll That's Just Prime!
3:03 “Well, that’s just prime!”
I remember this on ABC kids after school! Loved it
Same here lol 🎉😂😊
Fox Kids
3:09 WELCOME back optimus primal!
GOATed moment.
God I loved beast wars
The Megatron scream reminds me of the scene in Demolition Man, where he screams at the car because it wont brake. "BRAKE NOW YOU MICKEY MOUSE PIECE OF SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!"
No offense to the character artists, but this is probably the one Transmetal form that I always felt was a downgrade from their original design 😅
I remember the cartoonists weren't too happy with Transmetal Optimus not having major weaponry other than just a puny mace pistol. So they made their own fan mode with converting the backpack to some sort of machine gun harness. Still prefer more weapons though.
I agree. Taking his iconic faceguard was a big mistake and the way his legs work when he transforms is just bizarre. I certainly can't see Transmetal Optimus relaxing in beast mode the way base form Optimus did.
@@michaellam2508 well that explain opitimal Optimus
I felt like they were all downgraded. The only one I liked was Megatron’s robot mode
@@logger22 what I didn't like about Transmetal Megatron however was his toy had Brown Plastic Syndrome (Hasbro version).
Idk why all the hate for this design. Oh, well. For me, this optimus primal is more badass than the first and third one.
it's the blue gorilla has the most hate because he looks stupid they could've done something but they just made him blue like super blue not other colors that's it
What's there to underdtand? It's just an ugly design.
Dinobot soccer punch his metal butt 4:37
Didn't like the design but his re entrance was bad ass, soon as he says my turn and owns them best moment
Well that's just Prime..................................
ratrap and dino is dinamic
Awwwwwwwwoooooooo!
Best warcry
I think the downgrade might’ve been planned with Optimus primal’s transmental form as he died, and the spark was brought back to a blink, stasis pod and that blank may or may not have been exposed to the trans warp explosion in his beast form look better than the robot form.
I wonder his Transmetal face would look like in Rise of the Beasts
NOOOOO!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!MEGATROOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!
I really wished Rhinox had Transmetal form...
I think the toy line had a transmetal version
Yeah I was pissed when Rhinox didn't get one, but everyone else did
He had one in the toy line, but it was never adapted into the series. Besides, I believe Rhinox had to stay the "weak link" of the Maximals, in order for the Beast Machines' story to happen.
@@Amdrag25 my definition of the 'weak link' now looking back on it was Rat-trap
@@kelz2.0 He was, before the Transmetal upgrade. After it, Rattrap's power clearly surpassed Rhinox. Maybe not for much, but it did. Besides, as the Beast Wars progressed, Maximals and Predacons became more machines than organics. In the end, the ones who kept their "basic organic" ended up being the weakest on both sides.
I quite like the trans metal optimus. Love how the beast mode gets a hoverboard, gives me some silver surfer vibes. It’s mainly the robot mode I have issues with. The shield and turret are really cool but that face just doesn’t work for me
What happened to Tigertron and why wasn’t he a transmetal?
@@lucaswilliamson5905 “I don’t know” - master Oogway 2008
@@lucaswilliamson5905 he died as well as air razor and the VOX took their souls and merged them to form tigerhawk who then also died
@@KyleDoroja thank you for explaining
@@lucaswilliamson5905 story wise the reason some of the characters didn’t become transmetal was because they were born planet side so the time wave didn’t affect them while in the case of rhinox and waspinator they both were shielded by healing chambers
I have to be honest among all the Transmetal Versions that these characters been upgraded, I believe Optimus Primal is easily the worst one for me. Cause when he is Robot Mode, he looks a Jacked Up Gorilla Body Builder and it looks ....mmm I'm sorry, it looks weird and looks a walking robot furry. Even the Beast Mode looks too creepy. The only thing I like about this design is his Massize Machine Gun and he has Hoverboard. But I will say this, this design still looks alot better than his design in Rise Of The Beasts, like the Gorilla Mode is awesome, but Robot Mode looks bland, boring and no colour on him except for his green eyes. At least this design has colour even it's too bright in Beast Mode.
One upgrade they hated.
how can i listen this battle music alone?
So does Transwarp space bridge the living world with the afterlife, or did Rhinox open a path through time to just before Optimus Primal died and his consciousness was transferred to another body?
Recuerdo cuando era chico y veía esta serie sin entenderle al inglés estando tan cerca de Estados unidos me gustaba mucho escuchar esas voces fue de la series q nunca ví dobladas
This scene feel like in reboot when Megabyte send bob away
Happened in the same year too. Double cliffhangers until the next season.
It was made by the same people
@@Me-wx1mt yup i know they done reboot beastwar/beastie and shadow raider
@@Sergus914 oh my bad
@Martin Li man, I waited so long to see what happened next.
A true WTF moment!
I never understood the difference between Optimus Primal/Prime or how both major bads were both called Megatron but interacted with the G1 versions... can some briefly explain? I've never been a fan of the Beast Wars/Machines, these were out when I was a child but the first I saw was the 1983 movie then Armada after that and kept up with til Cybertron and sort of stopped until Prime came out and loved the lore and the Cybertron games but I never understood how the Maximals and Predacons stood seperately, they wouldn't be very subtle either compared the Transformers we know and love and I'm not saying the Beastformers are bad, just not my cup of tea.
The Maximals and the Predacons are the descendants of the Autobots and the Decepticons respectively. Optimus Primal was a ship's captain, and is the descendant to Optimus Prime. Megatron, the Predacon one, is a criminal who renamed himself after the original Megatron, for the clout and intimidation factor.
Beast Wars takes place on ancient Earth, while the Ark is still buried under rocks inside that volcano; The Maximals and Predacons don't realize they're on ancient Earth until season 2, eventually it was revealed the Predacon Megatron's actual goal was trying to get to primitive Earth all along, to kill Optimus Prime while he was comatose inside the Ark and change history. And he came pretty close to it.
...So I started with G1 and I'm deeply curious how you think that transforming into human-scale animals is less subtle than 10-30 feet high robots transforming. One of the things that always drew me to Beast Wars is that it's a lot easier for them to hide in their native environments and subtly transform than trying to disguise yourself as a car when you can easily break the ground by putting your foot down a little too fast as part of transforming.
@@AstralFireIX a giant metal robot transforming into a truck makes more sense than a giant metal robot transforming into a metal Gorilla, not exactly the best disguise for the setting of the movie being in the 90s, I'm not saying its a bad concept or that Beast Wars/Machines was bad, I'm well aware of the divided fans and that it weighs more on the side of fans who love it and I'm part of a minority that just didn't like it. The Predacons in Prime were cool though but I'll always prefer the vehicle modes over beast modes
@@WaffleAfterHours thank you, that helps
@@AzimuthPrime You're welcome ^^
I liked the original gorilla form, and the optimal Optimus form better than this one🤢
I kinda am ok with it, though not his beast mode personally.
The blue ape bits just don't look good to me and contrast with the 2nd for .
I agree. I had the original and optimal Optimus toy as a kid. I didn't want Transmetal Optimus Primal. I didn't like the tiny legs and the face. He also look weird in beast mode. On the other hand I think Transmetal Megatron Look the Best. I didn't like Transmetal 2 Megatron. It was my Favorite beast wars toy. I wish I had the original form also. But I never find it when I was young.
I wonder if the pod they used was the third one you seen in the coming of fuzors episode. There was a scene in the storm where one of the pods had a hand that was lifeless due to its loss of spark
Nope, that one was dead. The pod they used was a sparkless protoform found elsewhere.
From what I've heard, there ship had a few blank protoforms stored on the ship for whatever reason which is what I think Optimus went into.
blu monke...
His robot mode face looks like Michael Jackson
Ok…. I get back then this is all they had to work with…. But they could have tried better with the trans metal design…
I think it was less about what they could animate and more about what could work as a toy. They can make anything transform to-from anything on TV, ie Beast Machines, but to sell toys the design has to work in the real world too. That's probably why they did the transmetal thing in the first place, new version of the character, new toy to sell.
They had to recreate the toy design, they didn’t intentionally want it to look this shitty
Wow
Hated this form. Loved optimal optimus however.
That is not primal that is apelinq
No that’s primal, apelinq was created in 2000, a few years after this episode