Next up will be some sort of barbarian style faction but still please leave your suggestions! Time Stamps below :) Part 1 - Campaign Overview: 6:55 Part 2 - Military Overview: 23:29 Part 3 - Verdict: 55:49
Would be super awesome if you did a AOR Unit Highlights or best of. Maybe just a quick vid series where you cover individual units in short vids. Since they aren't faction specific units.
@@anthonychojvang Currently working on a best shock infantry vid but I'll definitely consider doing a best AOR unit video soon. Or at least a special show case and not necessarily the "best" of them. Just units worth highlighting. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@angryhermit4291 Thanks for the suggestion mate! I thought I heard some of their units might be slightly being adjusted soon so I'll wait for confirmation on that but otherwise I'll check em out soon!
This is my favourite faction to play in the Macedonian Wars campaign where you're up against Macedon as the underdog. Pergamon is outmatched in Pikes and Cavalry so you really need to focus on utilising your flexibility with Spearmen, Peltasts and Swordsmen to win the day.
Great jobs on your vids man. I haven't played this game in years and have recently decided to go back and give DEI a try. Since I'm rusty and DEI fundamentally transforms the game, your guides have been a real boon and helped me get a better feel for each faction's strengths and weaknesses. You are the only content creator who has such an in-depth faction analysis for DEI, so keep up the good work.
Thank you very much mate your super kind! DeI has made Rome2 one of those games you can pick up after it being a very old game and a lot of it feels brand new! If you have any questions or video requests feel free to throw them in the comments of any vid!
It's a lot harder getting to empire in DEI I've noticed trying to get there with Rome atm. I'm hoping I'll be an empire by the time I get imperial legions.
Definitely have to watch the pop at the start of a campaign (especially if you're playing on hard), one or two bad engagements and your professional army will be completely crippled without hope of resupply. It's easy to get into drawn out wars of attrition when you get into the hills just to your east as well and next thing you know you're running levy armies lol. Hoplites are a better rounded/all rounder unit to phalangists imo. They're more resilient to flanking, ranged attacks and other battlefield shenanigans while doing okay if you need to rush some infantry into a flank or weird position. They're also a safer bet when it comes to the Rome 2 dodgy path finding that spear/pike units have, you really have to babysit the pikemen to make sure they don't turn and completely ruin your front line and when they inevitably do make some weird movement that exposes their flank, they're a lot harder to pull back into formation and will drop much quicker than hoplites. Nothing beats a pike unit one on one front on but the hoplite is more versatile. If we're talking pure defense especially in towns, then pike all the way. Light hoplite are great for mobile cav defense, especially at the start where counter cav can be a bit too expensive to maintain, 4 speed on something that can poke a hole in some cav is pretty sweet. Pergamon is one of my fav factions, they have an interesting starting position and varied roster, what's not to like! The new art is great as well, although I will say I miss the completely silver silver shields! Massalia is like the western version of them in that it's an interesting spot to start.
Thanks for you input regarding hoplites and pikes mate! Definitely something to think about in the hoplite vs pike debate! Pergamon is definitely a great faction, I like to think of Massalia as being their distant cousins. Although apparently Massalia will be seeing somewhat of a rework by the DeI team in the future.
@@kais2345 I'm not too sure on specifics, I just know Massalia and Athens and 1 other faction (that I can't recall) have been mentioned as being revisited by the devs. Not completely overhauled necessarily but I'd welcome any improvements.
Nice presentation. Many thanks! Pergamon is with no doubt the faction the DEI modders put in the most love to details. Wow all their units look so great. It gives to this faction in battles always a big smile on my face. And besides the look they have really a huge number of elite units that can easily help to break the enemy. Maybe the faction I will choose for my next game.
Thanks a lot mate! Pergamon easily has one of the best looking rosters so far, although there are lots of big roster changes coming to the barbarian factions!
@@Immersaholic I am a huge fan of the hellenistic factions. I tried once Pergamon but on contrast to your assessment my start was very rough. After approximately 6 turns almost all neighbours declared war on me and even Rhodes prepared for an invasion. And with the restrictions in economy and trade to effort more than 1 army was not possible. And it took a longer time to increase my territory.
Facts tho! They almost single handedly made me want to do a video of like the top 10 best looking units in DeI. Will have to consider it in the future :D
This has been a nice overview with some very useful tips, thanks! Concerning the supposedly elite slingers: your pointing out of the description got me curious, so I looked at the database entries, and the Trallian slingers seem to be exactly the same as the ordinary Greek slingers in all combat stats except for their training level attribute: they are "well trained" as opposed to "poorly trained", which, afaik, should make them take reduced morale and fatigue penalties as well as move and turn with more cohesion as a unit. On the question of pikes vs. hoplites, I think hoplites are supposed to be worse at dealing damage and holding against melee units, but better at withstanding missile fire, and I definitely notice that e.g. the bronze shields get shredded by javelins much faster then hoplites seem to.
Thanks for looking into those slingers mate! I was really confused by them lol. And your definitely right about the hoplites/pikes debate. I'm still not sure if I'd ever use a hoplite instead of a pike since you can counter skirmishers with cav. I'll have to do a vid about it with the pros and cons!
@@Immersaholic huzzah! REALLY looking dorward to thaat :) I've only recently started using Peltast to their full effect. Playing as Epirus so I have 2 great options. I'm still a little hazy on shields and some other stats. Googling can be unhelpful at times so maybe ways down the road a battle stats vid would be sweet :) As a Queanbeyan lad it's great hearing a familiar accent, Love ur work
@@AbnormalObs Epirus definitely has fantastic options! The Skirmisher vid will be mainly about the different types of classes and options but I could maybe do a vid covering stats and what each is responsible for if ya like. Just gotta get more info before I do. Appreciate your support mate proper nice of ya!
I personally use Pikes as the main front and Hoplites on the flanks. They are a lot more mobile so you can react to flanking units a lot better, but also flank with them yourself and obliterate those units attacking the pikes. For sieges they can also absorb a bit of the missiles, which would devistate the pikemen.
Not a bad tactic at all, since checking out some of these older overviews I've heard similar strategies for using hoplites instead of pikes. Pikes still easily will win in a head to head engagement but hoplites certainly have their uses.
Thats what I did against Carthage as Rome had 2 stacks of hoplites and pikes mixed with Roman line sword troops who I'd use to take on infantry attacking my pikes and hoplites legions getting behind them completely destroy them. Saw a unit lose 70 men at once when they ran from my hastati into a line of pikes lol. The pikes and spearmen saved many from elephants and heavy cav. Still keeping some of my hoplites and triarii even though I'm pretty well into the marian reforms. Rome cav is a lot better in DEI too at least I feel like love the ala legionares they've me many times in battle usually get 500 kills or more with my cav each battle I use them in.
I restarted my Pergamon Campaign 4 times and Rhodes declared war by turn 4 in each one. One time they straight up broke a non aggression pact I signed with them the previous turn.
That makes no sense at all man lol, they don't even border you :/ I'd get it if it was Lydia but Rhodes shouldn't be so aggroed. Historically they were allies lol. Out of my 5 runs they declared war twice but still 4/4 for you is rough man.
@@Immersaholic As a prolific Pergamon player, the only way around it is to part with some of your cash and bribe them into a defensive alliance in the first turn. It sucks, but its the only thing that works for me, I've managed to even confederate them doing it that way
@@AstuteEnglishman I'm not too surprised, if you throw enough money at the ai you can get them to do a lot of things. Nice job and tip for beginners though mate!
Great review! Thanks for this one. Never took interest in Pergamon in the base game but in DEI the modders have made the roster amazing, so much choice and their top units are so colourful as you mentioned!
Great info, learned a lot that's gonna help with my current Pergamon (Hellenic League now) campaign. Gonna start utilizing pikemen a lot more. 122 turns in and have been at war with the Seleucids since turn 1 but haven't actually seen them yet lol. Very interested to see an Iberian faction overview as I've never even really looked at the culture group.
Thanks mate! I'm not surprised you haven't had to actually deal with the Seleucids yet, they are probably busy in their dozen other wars they get involved in. Good luck with your campaign! Just be careful of skirmishers on your pikemen D:
You did a good job with this as always.👍 I'm looking into making Ephessus a walled port ATM. A few cities on the map I wanna wall up. Really wish we could edit the map but I'll settle for changing the file that certain locations point to for battles.
There’s quite a lot of new units and some reskins for the eastern side of the map. I just hope they update the barbarians more like the germanic tribes
Yeah there is definitely some love left out for some of the barbarians, although its probably because they aren't too popular compared to others. The Scordisci were particularly disappointing I thought. But then again the modders have to prioritize right.
Yeah, Especially the start if you don’t get lucky or fast enough. The harsh climate will devistate you and making travel impossible without the baggage train
@Vanja Soskic Quite likely yeah, they also don't hold much popularity in modern popular culture at the moment. Whereas Rome and Greek cultures are celebrated almost non-stop so that probably has quite a bit to do with it.
@@5Lanius5 Its a Pila in his hand that many swordsmen get access to, that shield is too oval to be a hoplite hence why I thought it might be a Thorax sword unit.
I disagree with Your opinion of militia goplites being a step-up from light hoplites. Quite the contrary imho. Don't get me wrong - as a trash spear "plug-the-hole" type of unit Your assesment is correct. But the whole selling point of light hoplites is...well the fact that the're in fact ligh - hence the speed of 4. You can do so much combined arms shenanigans with them accompanying good shock cav!
That's a interesting opinion mate! However what do you think of the light hops not getting the phalanx ability? That's what puts me off them as a "hoplite" unit really. But as more of a spearmen unit they can definitely be useful like you suggest!
@@Immersaholic They use hoplon shield - thus they're hoplites. Their usage on the battlefield is of course completely different. Just try outflanking with mixed group of light hoplites and shock cav: hoplites can lock down enemy spearmen, which means that Your cav is uncheked, and we all know what does it mean in DEI ;)
The v1.3.0 update added World Wonder buildings that have massive money boosts on them and in Pergamon's starting province, you have TWO world wonders (Colossus of Rhodes and Mausoleum at Halicarnassus) that make their starting province one of the richest in all of the map at low building level(Tier II). You also have two other wonders you can conquer towards nearby (Statue of Zeus in Sparta and Sanctuary of the Great Gods in Pulpudeva).
Indeed! This overview was done before the wonders were released but since then I did a Wonders guide showing where they all are on the map. Very powerful buildings to own!
Yes I've said this in a few of my videos now, basically if you play on Hard or above diplomacy becomes completely irrelevant pretty much which sucks :/ These campaign overviews are focused on people playing a "Normal" difficulty setting.
I think in campaign pikes have more upkeep than hoplites. That's how it is as Sparta anyways. Helotes pikes have more upkeep than the Helot hoplites. I'm not sure if this is the same for all factions
Thanks for the input mate! I saw another comment where someone also added that pikes take a lot more damage from skirmishers so there is that difference. Although I'm still not sure if its worth a hoplite over a pike for either of the 2 reasons. I imagine its very context-based on when it would be better for a hoplite.
Again great video ! I just installed my ssd and the game work fine, however what graphical option to you choose for your rome II ? And what reshade do you use for completing the graphic of the base game ?
I'm glad its working good for you now mate! Most of my graphic options are set to very high/ultra. Although the main fps killers in graphics would be unit size and detail plus probably object detail. So I'd suggest you turn everything to maximum and then begin to lower certain settings 1 at a time.
@@EstebanPalomino620 I used to and it was great (you can see my Spartan vids if you wanna see it in action) but I'm currently using a personal preset I've thrown together. I may share it in the future if enough people are interested and I can figure out exactly how to do it lol :P
How do Greek normal/city state specific thorax swordsmen fare against normal Legionaries and how do elite versions of Legionaries perform against elite Thorakites?
Thorax swordsmen I believe are usually slightly better than Legionaries in attack/defense, although their stamina wouldn't be as good and their armor might not be as good but I can't say for certain. The main difference is Legionaries come from the easy to maintain 3rd social class pop while Thorax units come from the elite social class of Greeks.
@@longyu9336 That's probably worthy of a video on its own to be honest man. But off the top of my head, it would be almost totally equal. IF you don't take into account campaign aspects such as population class and stuff then I'd say their almost equal with the Greeks slightly being ahead with melee attack.
If you mean the lighting itself its a bit darker than normal because it is Winter in this video for the campaign section. In addition, I also use a few different visual mods along with a Reshade preset I've made recently. Mods used are in the description if you want to check them out, I hope this helps! :)
Thanks mate! I appreciate the suggestion. I think next will be an Iberian faction but then our next barbarian faction will be Galatia or Arverni I reckon :)
Nothing wrong with that to be honest mate. I've actually lost at least 1 or 2 campaigns as Rome. Although that was when I used to play with submods that made the campaign way harder than normal. I think Rome is a easy faction to BUT they also can easily be finished off quickly if you get unlucky with the ai declaring war on you all at once while your busy elsewhere like say in Syracuse or southern Italy. For the average player like me I think Rome is surprisingly losable, but generally speaking it is also one of the most powerful factions in game too. You just have to weather through the early hordes of barbarians lol :D
No not yet mate, currently editing an Iberian overview and then we will probably do the Mauryans. However if people are interested we can always check out the Kartli
Purely look wise I'd say it would be roughly like this: Hellenic/Greeks>=Imperial Romans>Continental Celtics>Early Romans>British Celtics>Germanic tribes. Seriously, why are Germanic units displayed as this primitive in the Game?
I could almost agree with that list although I'd put the Romans higher but I'm a fanboy :D I don't think the Germans are toooo bad considering they have pretty good progression on display. Early tier units are mostly in rags but elite units look pretty badass.
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Next up will be some sort of barbarian style faction but still please leave your suggestions!
Time Stamps below :)
Part 1 - Campaign Overview: 6:55
Part 2 - Military Overview: 23:29
Part 3 - Verdict: 55:49
Would be super awesome if you did a AOR Unit Highlights or best of. Maybe just a quick vid series where you cover individual units in short vids. Since they aren't faction specific units.
@@anthonychojvang Currently working on a best shock infantry vid but I'll definitely consider doing a best AOR unit video soon. Or at least a special show case and not necessarily the "best" of them. Just units worth highlighting.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Odrysian kingdom
@@angryhermit4291 Thanks for the suggestion mate! I thought I heard some of their units might be slightly being adjusted soon so I'll wait for confirmation on that but otherwise I'll check em out soon!
This is my favourite faction to play in the Macedonian Wars campaign where you're up against Macedon as the underdog. Pergamon is outmatched in Pikes and Cavalry so you really need to focus on utilising your flexibility with Spearmen, Peltasts and Swordsmen to win the day.
Interesting mate thanks for the info! I haven't really played that campaign much at all but I'll have to try one day.
Best looking faction so far, which naturally makes it the best faction in every regard
Great jobs on your vids man. I haven't played this game in years and have recently decided to go back and give DEI a try. Since I'm rusty and DEI fundamentally transforms the game, your guides have been a real boon and helped me get a better feel for each faction's strengths and weaknesses. You are the only content creator who has such an in-depth faction analysis for DEI, so keep up the good work.
Thank you very much mate your super kind! DeI has made Rome2 one of those games you can pick up after it being a very old game and a lot of it feels brand new!
If you have any questions or video requests feel free to throw them in the comments of any vid!
My favorite city-state turned kingdom that just couldn't make the leap to empire.
It's a lot harder getting to empire in DEI I've noticed trying to get there with Rome atm. I'm hoping I'll be an empire by the time I get imperial legions.
Definitely have to watch the pop at the start of a campaign (especially if you're playing on hard), one or two bad engagements and your professional army will be completely crippled without hope of resupply. It's easy to get into drawn out wars of attrition when you get into the hills just to your east as well and next thing you know you're running levy armies lol.
Hoplites are a better rounded/all rounder unit to phalangists imo. They're more resilient to flanking, ranged attacks and other battlefield shenanigans while doing okay if you need to rush some infantry into a flank or weird position. They're also a safer bet when it comes to the Rome 2 dodgy path finding that spear/pike units have, you really have to babysit the pikemen to make sure they don't turn and completely ruin your front line and when they inevitably do make some weird movement that exposes their flank, they're a lot harder to pull back into formation and will drop much quicker than hoplites. Nothing beats a pike unit one on one front on but the hoplite is more versatile. If we're talking pure defense especially in towns, then pike all the way.
Light hoplite are great for mobile cav defense, especially at the start where counter cav can be a bit too expensive to maintain, 4 speed on something that can poke a hole in some cav is pretty sweet.
Pergamon is one of my fav factions, they have an interesting starting position and varied roster, what's not to like! The new art is great as well, although I will say I miss the completely silver silver shields! Massalia is like the western version of them in that it's an interesting spot to start.
Thanks for you input regarding hoplites and pikes mate! Definitely something to think about in the hoplite vs pike debate! Pergamon is definitely a great faction, I like to think of Massalia as being their distant cousins. Although apparently Massalia will be seeing somewhat of a rework by the DeI team in the future.
@@Immersaholic Oh that's exciting! Very keen to see what they come up with for Massalia
@@kais2345 I'm not too sure on specifics, I just know Massalia and Athens and 1 other faction (that I can't recall) have been mentioned as being revisited by the devs. Not completely overhauled necessarily but I'd welcome any improvements.
Nice presentation. Many thanks!
Pergamon is with no doubt the faction the DEI modders put in the most love to details. Wow all their units look so great. It gives to this faction in battles always a big smile on my face. And besides the look they have really a huge number of elite units that can easily help to break the enemy.
Maybe the faction I will choose for my next game.
Thanks a lot mate!
Pergamon easily has one of the best looking rosters so far, although there are lots of big roster changes coming to the barbarian factions!
@@Immersaholic I am a huge fan of the hellenistic factions. I tried once Pergamon but on contrast to your assessment my start was very rough. After approximately 6 turns almost all neighbours declared war on me and even Rhodes prepared for an invasion. And with the restrictions in economy and trade to effort more than 1 army was not possible. And it took a longer time to increase my territory.
Pergamon probably has one of the strongest melee cavalry and late game rosters available. And they’re 100% the most stylish!
Facts tho!
They almost single handedly made me want to do a video of like the top 10 best looking units in DeI. Will have to consider it in the future :D
@@Immersaholic looking forward to any videos actually, lots of good quality here
@@mangyminotaur30 Thanks a lot mate! :)
@@Immersaholic I'm still waiting
@@Immersaholic You should def make that best looking units vid!
This has been a nice overview with some very useful tips, thanks!
Concerning the supposedly elite slingers: your pointing out of the description got me curious, so I looked at the database entries, and the Trallian slingers seem to be exactly the same as the ordinary Greek slingers in all combat stats except for their training level attribute: they are "well trained" as opposed to "poorly trained", which, afaik, should make them take reduced morale and fatigue penalties as well as move and turn with more cohesion as a unit.
On the question of pikes vs. hoplites, I think hoplites are supposed to be worse at dealing damage and holding against melee units, but better at withstanding missile fire, and I definitely notice that e.g. the bronze shields get shredded by javelins much faster then hoplites seem to.
Thanks for looking into those slingers mate! I was really confused by them lol.
And your definitely right about the hoplites/pikes debate. I'm still not sure if I'd ever use a hoplite instead of a pike since you can counter skirmishers with cav. I'll have to do a vid about it with the pros and cons!
Really keen on your skimisher guide if ur up for it
Thanks mate I have still been working on it so I hope to get it done this coming week :)
@@Immersaholic huzzah! REALLY looking dorward to thaat :)
I've only recently started using Peltast to their full effect. Playing as Epirus so I have 2 great options.
I'm still a little hazy on shields and some other stats. Googling can be unhelpful at times so maybe ways down the road a battle stats vid would be sweet :)
As a Queanbeyan lad it's great hearing a familiar accent, Love ur work
@@AbnormalObs Epirus definitely has fantastic options! The Skirmisher vid will be mainly about the different types of classes and options but I could maybe do a vid covering stats and what each is responsible for if ya like. Just gotta get more info before I do.
Appreciate your support mate proper nice of ya!
I personally use Pikes as the main front and Hoplites on the flanks. They are a lot more mobile so you can react to flanking units a lot better, but also flank with them yourself and obliterate those units attacking the pikes. For sieges they can also absorb a bit of the missiles, which would devistate the pikemen.
Not a bad tactic at all, since checking out some of these older overviews I've heard similar strategies for using hoplites instead of pikes. Pikes still easily will win in a head to head engagement but hoplites certainly have their uses.
Thats what I did against Carthage as Rome had 2 stacks of hoplites and pikes mixed with Roman line sword troops who I'd use to take on infantry attacking my pikes and hoplites legions getting behind them completely destroy them.
Saw a unit lose 70 men at once when they ran from my hastati into a line of pikes lol. The pikes and spearmen saved many from elephants and heavy cav.
Still keeping some of my hoplites and triarii even though I'm pretty well into the marian reforms. Rome cav is a lot better in DEI too at least I feel like love the ala legionares they've me many times in battle usually get 500 kills or more with my cav each battle I use them in.
Same
I restarted my Pergamon Campaign 4 times and Rhodes declared war by turn 4 in each one. One time they straight up broke a non aggression pact I signed with them the previous turn.
That makes no sense at all man lol, they don't even border you :/ I'd get it if it was Lydia but Rhodes shouldn't be so aggroed. Historically they were allies lol.
Out of my 5 runs they declared war twice but still 4/4 for you is rough man.
@@Immersaholic As a prolific Pergamon player, the only way around it is to part with some of your cash and bribe them into a defensive alliance in the first turn. It sucks, but its the only thing that works for me, I've managed to even confederate them doing it that way
@@AstuteEnglishman I'm not too surprised, if you throw enough money at the ai you can get them to do a lot of things.
Nice job and tip for beginners though mate!
@@Immersaholic A pleasure, need more dei to players for mp battles
Great review! Thanks for this one. Never took interest in Pergamon in the base game but in DEI the modders have made the roster amazing, so much choice and their top units are so colourful as you mentioned!
Thanks mate! Their units are definitely more of the well detailed units and look fantastic overall!
Great info, learned a lot that's gonna help with my current Pergamon (Hellenic League now) campaign. Gonna start utilizing pikemen a lot more. 122 turns in and have been at war with the Seleucids since turn 1 but haven't actually seen them yet lol.
Very interested to see an Iberian faction overview as I've never even really looked at the culture group.
Thanks mate! I'm not surprised you haven't had to actually deal with the Seleucids yet, they are probably busy in their dozen other wars they get involved in. Good luck with your campaign! Just be careful of skirmishers on your pikemen D:
You did a good job with this as always.👍 I'm looking into making Ephessus a walled port ATM. A few cities on the map I wanna wall up. Really wish we could edit the map but I'll settle for changing the file that certain locations point to for battles.
Thanks mate! Very kind of ya!
I wish we could do a lot more too man, imagine the replayability! Could be EPIC.
For some reason Pergamon always does well in my campaigns. Once I get to them they've usually pushed into Syria already.
That's interesting! For me they last for a long time but never expand :/ Usually get overrun by Thracians for me haha.
There’s quite a lot of new units and some reskins for the eastern side of the map. I just hope they update the barbarians more like the germanic tribes
Yeah there is definitely some love left out for some of the barbarians, although its probably because they aren't too popular compared to others. The Scordisci were particularly disappointing I thought. But then again the modders have to prioritize right.
Yeah, Especially the start if you don’t get lucky or fast enough. The harsh climate will devistate you and making travel impossible without the baggage train
@Vanja Soskic Quite likely yeah, they also don't hold much popularity in modern popular culture at the moment. Whereas Rome and Greek cultures are celebrated almost non-stop so that probably has quite a bit to do with it.
Hey 👋🏼 my DEI background for the main screen looks different, do I have a different outdated dei?
I use hoplites for guarding the flanks of my pikemen
Interesting use mate, especially with the lighter hoplites.
Pikes are so vulnerable to missile units in general and if something goes out of your control in your formation they die very quickly
Excellent point in the pike vs hoplite debate!
The guy on the thumbnail looks sick
He does! Believe its a Pergamene Thorax swordsmen? I can't recall exactly. Their whole roster looks epic though!
@@Immersaholic Well that doesn't look like a javelin so he might just a high tier hoplite
@@5Lanius5 Its a Pila in his hand that many swordsmen get access to, that shield is too oval to be a hoplite hence why I thought it might be a Thorax sword unit.
@@Immersaholic yeah i guess it could be but don't they hold javelins differently than spears?
@@5Lanius5 I'm not too sure mate I think its similar but slightly different.
I disagree with Your opinion of militia goplites being a step-up from light hoplites.
Quite the contrary imho.
Don't get me wrong - as a trash spear "plug-the-hole" type of unit Your assesment is correct.
But the whole selling point of light hoplites is...well the fact that the're in fact ligh - hence the speed of 4.
You can do so much combined arms shenanigans with them accompanying good shock cav!
That's a interesting opinion mate! However what do you think of the light hops not getting the phalanx ability? That's what puts me off them as a "hoplite" unit really. But as more of a spearmen unit they can definitely be useful like you suggest!
@@Immersaholic They use hoplon shield - thus they're hoplites.
Their usage on the battlefield is of course completely different.
Just try outflanking with mixed group of light hoplites and shock cav: hoplites can lock down enemy spearmen, which means that Your cav is uncheked, and we all know what does it mean in DEI ;)
Love the vids, keep up the great work!
Thanks so much mate!
Caledones, unique and underappreciated.
Definitely underappreciated, I'll have to see what their roster is like!
love the colors of this faction
Same mate!
The v1.3.0 update added World Wonder buildings that have massive money boosts on them and in Pergamon's starting province, you have TWO world wonders (Colossus of Rhodes and Mausoleum at Halicarnassus) that make their starting province one of the richest in all of the map at low building level(Tier II). You also have two other wonders you can conquer towards nearby (Statue of Zeus in Sparta and Sanctuary of the Great Gods in Pulpudeva).
Indeed! This overview was done before the wonders were released but since then I did a Wonders guide showing where they all are on the map. Very powerful buildings to own!
Maybe mayrian kingdom will be very interesting overview (i wait to siracuse and ather greek colonies overview too)
The Indian faction has been highly requested so they definitely won't be too far away!
If you play on hard campaign settings, sometimes the AI will all declare war on you though, even Rhodes and Athens after making non aggression packs.
Yes I've said this in a few of my videos now, basically if you play on Hard or above diplomacy becomes completely irrelevant pretty much which sucks :/
These campaign overviews are focused on people playing a "Normal" difficulty setting.
I think in campaign pikes have more upkeep than hoplites. That's how it is as Sparta anyways. Helotes pikes have more upkeep than the Helot hoplites. I'm not sure if this is the same for all factions
Thanks for the input mate! I saw another comment where someone also added that pikes take a lot more damage from skirmishers so there is that difference. Although I'm still not sure if its worth a hoplite over a pike for either of the 2 reasons. I imagine its very context-based on when it would be better for a hoplite.
I love the Greek factions. Sele is my fav, but I hate pike warfare and personally I never use them. Id rather have the mobility of the hoplites
Pikes are definitely hard to use! especially against players!
Same here
Again great video !
I just installed my ssd and the game work fine, however what graphical option to you choose for your rome II ?
And what reshade do you use for completing the graphic of the base game ?
I'm glad its working good for you now mate! Most of my graphic options are set to very high/ultra. Although the main fps killers in graphics would be unit size and detail plus probably object detail. So I'd suggest you turn everything to maximum and then begin to lower certain settings 1 at a time.
@@Immersaholic thank for your informations ! I shall test my game with reshade, do you use the Lux Un Umbra preset ?
@@EstebanPalomino620 I used to and it was great (you can see my Spartan vids if you wanna see it in action) but I'm currently using a personal preset I've thrown together. I may share it in the future if enough people are interested and I can figure out exactly how to do it lol :P
@@Immersaholic Yeah that would be good, my game turn around 25 fps while doing 20 vs 20 battle
How do Greek normal/city state specific thorax swordsmen fare against normal Legionaries and how do elite versions of Legionaries perform against elite Thorakites?
Thorax swordsmen I believe are usually slightly better than Legionaries in attack/defense, although their stamina wouldn't be as good and their armor might not be as good but I can't say for certain.
The main difference is Legionaries come from the easy to maintain 3rd social class pop while Thorax units come from the elite social class of Greeks.
@@Immersaholic What about elite or Veteran legionaries? How does the Roman real elite stack up against Greek elite soldiers?
@@longyu9336 That's probably worthy of a video on its own to be honest man. But off the top of my head, it would be almost totally equal. IF you don't take into account campaign aspects such as population class and stuff then I'd say their almost equal with the Greeks slightly being ahead with melee attack.
@@Immersaholic Oh yes, please do unit testing
What's a 10/10 campaign for you?
I'm not really sure if there is one in this game, at least not for normal difficulty.
Thank you for this one
Thank you for watching! :)
hey man, just wondering what you use to make the campaign map dark
If you mean the lighting itself its a bit darker than normal because it is Winter in this video for the campaign section. In addition, I also use a few different visual mods along with a Reshade preset I've made recently.
Mods used are in the description if you want to check them out, I hope this helps! :)
@@Immersaholic thanks alot man
@@jru7th No worries champ!
You know my suggestion, Galatia in Asia or Arverni for that thicc Gallic Kingdom
Good overview also👍
Thanks mate! I appreciate the suggestion. I think next will be an Iberian faction but then our next barbarian faction will be Galatia or Arverni I reckon :)
good job sir!
Thanks mate!
not sure if they are really barbaric but could you cover the indians or edetani?
I've been wanting to do an Iberian tribe for a while so Edetani will certainly be up for consideration! Thanks for the suggestion :)
How do I unlock Pergamon?
You need to buy the Black sea faction DLC
@@Immersaholic ahhh...thank you, mate.
I struggle with rome believe it or not.
Nothing wrong with that to be honest mate. I've actually lost at least 1 or 2 campaigns as Rome. Although that was when I used to play with submods that made the campaign way harder than normal. I think Rome is a easy faction to BUT they also can easily be finished off quickly if you get unlucky with the ai declaring war on you all at once while your busy elsewhere like say in Syracuse or southern Italy. For the average player like me I think Rome is surprisingly losable, but generally speaking it is also one of the most powerful factions in game too. You just have to weather through the early hordes of barbarians lol :D
Have you done Kartli yet? 👌
No not yet mate, currently editing an Iberian overview and then we will probably do the Mauryans. However if people are interested we can always check out the Kartli
Purely look wise I'd say it would be roughly like this: Hellenic/Greeks>=Imperial Romans>Continental Celtics>Early Romans>British Celtics>Germanic tribes. Seriously, why are Germanic units displayed as this primitive in the Game?
I could almost agree with that list although I'd put the Romans higher but I'm a fanboy :D
I don't think the Germans are toooo bad considering they have pretty good progression on display. Early tier units are mostly in rags but elite units look pretty badass.
Nervii please
Thanks for the suggestion! They just received a BIG cultural change too!