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  • @DawidDoesTechStuff
    @DawidDoesTechStuff  Год назад +1163

    Not VR anymore! Rest assured, appropriate corporal punishment will be administered to the responsible party.

    • @togiisuperheavytank
      @togiisuperheavytank Год назад +103

      Thanks Dawid I didn't have a VR headset

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Год назад +181

      @@togiisuperheavytank Neither do I. :P

    • @rydoggo
      @rydoggo Год назад +24

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff I was debating using my phone but my vr insert is terrible.

    • @someguy9175
      @someguy9175 Год назад +31

      how's your butt doing Dawid? after the corporal punishment and all

    • @TeckieWeckie
      @TeckieWeckie Год назад +9

      I was going crazy trying to find the setting I changed when my phone was in my pocket.

  • @AnnaDoes
    @AnnaDoes Год назад +1255

    I can attest to the fact that when Dawid switched out these PCs, our apartment genuinely cooled down by a noticeable difference. It was wild. Kinda like having an oven on. Warms up everything just a little too much.

    • @Reuben_Gamer
      @Reuben_Gamer Год назад +46

      You could use the older pc as an oven

    • @PopTickles
      @PopTickles Год назад +27

      One of those situations where "warming sensation" isn't good

    • @90lancaster
      @90lancaster Год назад +6

      Watching the video I had to wonder what the temperature was like inside the PC's cases too.

    • @TheSwayzeTrain
      @TheSwayzeTrain Год назад +29

      My wife always gives out about my PC making the room stuffy. I recently decided to make some hardware changes, unlike David I chose violence. I'm getting a 7900XTX.....we're going to be cooking soon. Can't wait to surprise the wife. I will forever more have game with the windows open 😂

    • @moji3812
      @moji3812 Год назад +3

      Damn😆😆

  • @vladkillgore8266
    @vladkillgore8266 Год назад +57

    David: I'm going to build a system that draws less power
    Also Dawid: check out this 1300w psu guys!

    • @iris4547
      @iris4547 10 месяцев назад

      1300w psu would be pretty good for a high end system drawing in the region of 650w. psus are usually most efficient at 50% load.

    • @sporemaster97
      @sporemaster97 8 месяцев назад

      @@iris4547 I have a 1000w with a r5 1600 and gtx 980 lmao, idk if I'm even hitting 50%. And before you ask, I inherited it, I didn't buy a crazy PSU 😂

  • @cbassgomez123
    @cbassgomez123 Год назад +1

    Really awesome experiment that was a great success!

  • @projectrallus
    @projectrallus Год назад +7

    Doesn't an aio pull more power than an air cooler?

    • @Murasadramon
      @Murasadramon Год назад

      That's fair, but I think that's kind of the tradeoff. It uses power, but offers a better cooling solution because there's less airflow potential in the smaller case where you'd be space limited for a larger tower block. There also doesn't seem to be a rear exhaust fan so this would offer a better compromise between cooling and space in a small system.

    • @anita.b
      @anita.b Год назад

      Yes 0.1% of the total powerdraw, you solved the issue
      So smart

  • @devilmikey00
    @devilmikey00 Год назад +2

    Could use eco-mode AND precision boost with a negative bias of like -20 ish. Going negative lowers temps which lets the CPU boost higher. I got my 5700x to 4850mhz doing nothing else then enabling PBO at -21 (what AMD recommended in their software).

  • @DaboInk84
    @DaboInk84 Год назад

    Aww man, I found this channel back when you were installing the EVGA Hybrid kit on that 3080. RIP to the VGA part of EVGA. I have an EVGA 3090 I got 2nd hand and while it sucks back power if left at stock settings, I can't bring myself to let it go any time soon, let alone for a downgrade in VRAM capacity. In this summer heat I just drop the power slider down to 85% and barely notice the difference in performance. During the winter I max that thing out and stay nice and comfy.

  • @IronwingTechHaven
    @IronwingTechHaven Год назад +4

    We need more energy conscious builds like this!

  • @sudd3660
    @sudd3660 Год назад

    my pc was equally stupid, 12700k and 4090. i gained 9c to my room, real fun in summer time.
    pretty sure i halved my power usage with some tweaks, 220w max now on my 4090 alone. down from 400watt. cpu also needed some changes, was throttling instantly at stock.

  • @ThoughtlessDestiny
    @ThoughtlessDestiny Год назад +1

    I wonder about one those Intel Mobile CPU Erying boards with i9 and a Nvidia 3080m or something off AliExpress and see what power draw would be.

    • @sweden669
      @sweden669 Год назад

      I am also looking at a erying board...with a 4070 and a functional cooler (air) that could perhaps fit in that mech case

    • @ThoughtlessDestiny
      @ThoughtlessDestiny Год назад +1

      @@sweden669 I own the Erying i9 11900h board and it's great. I did have to put liquid metal under the adapter for heatsink tho. It beats my AMD 5800x3d in cinebench r23. Great deal to me for money. I used liquid metal to do all core overclock. If not overclocking then stock it's fine.

  • @helicopter234
    @helicopter234 Год назад

    You could also turn vsync on or cap your FPS to draw even less power :)

  • @ibrahimsarpani8882
    @ibrahimsarpani8882 Год назад

    1 way to draw less power is played at medium or even low settings and set for 100fps max... let gpu run at only 60 or 70 max.

  • @TheKillerJin
    @TheKillerJin 4 месяца назад

    Another idea would be to switch to console gaming + a steam deck for emulation and indie games.

  • @maxmouse3
    @maxmouse3 9 месяцев назад

    Very cool :) specially because that also lowers your power bill :D

  • @vladrazym9955
    @vladrazym9955 Год назад +2

    Great video!
    There should be a simple and straight forward manual on how to downvolt your system to have the same fps consuming much less power

  • @mr.electronx9036
    @mr.electronx9036 Год назад

    i love mini tx beast machines

  • @Middleseed
    @Middleseed Год назад

    What I want to know is why he uses a 3090 and an 11900k when he has 4090's and 13900k's lying around lol.

  • @why_astetics_over_everything
    @why_astetics_over_everything Год назад

    Dawid why dont you just undervolt the 3080 and chainge the cpu and motherboard

  • @attackxxx
    @attackxxx Год назад

    Make it not just draw less power, but also fanless.

  • @allnighter2949
    @allnighter2949 Год назад +406

    Watched the original upload in 360. Definitely enjoyed seeing distorted Dawid's face.

    • @KyleRuggles
      @KyleRuggles Год назад +5

      Lol! It wasn't that long ago that 360 was THE standard lol.

    • @mobarakjama5570
      @mobarakjama5570 Год назад +51

      @@KyleRuggles I don't think they mean 360p.

    • @f1rr305
      @f1rr305 Год назад +8

      that got me some great nightmare-ish screenchots

    • @MrGorpm
      @MrGorpm Год назад

      It's Dawid BTW.

    • @Fender178
      @Fender178 Год назад +10

      @@KyleRuggles Not 360p but 360 degrees. It looks in the OG video that Dawid recorded himself using a 360 degree camera or using VR.

  • @Yalden_
    @Yalden_ Год назад +298

    Distorted Dawid will be forever etched into my brain.

  • @spartaninvirginia
    @spartaninvirginia Год назад +179

    You should post every video in VR. Made me feel extra fancy.

    • @moji3812
      @moji3812 Год назад

      Right

    • @internet_userr
      @internet_userr Год назад

      ​@@moji3812Oh. So if I get the joke I am not a verb

  • @upgrade1373
    @upgrade1373 Год назад +132

    Radeon has a setting called Power Saving and also Radeon Chill that I use during the summer, and Ryzen has Eco mode. Both work pretty well to keep the high end hardware under control.

    • @stoneymahoney9106
      @stoneymahoney9106 Год назад +21

      Chill is awesome, it dynamically limits your framerate depending on your keyboard and mouse inputs, when it's set up correctly it's unnoticeable.

    • @julienparent9691
      @julienparent9691 Год назад +11

      @@stoneymahoney9106 Yup and it works wonder when in game framerate limit does not work (like valheim or dyson sphere program)

    • @essexboy
      @essexboy Год назад +1

      I've a Ryzen 5900x running a powercolor red devil 6750xt , I have it in eco mode because even with a nxzt water cooler aio it was hitting 85-90c

    • @MindBlowerWTF
      @MindBlowerWTF 11 месяцев назад

      @@essexboyYou got it figured out? Maybe look into undervolting. 5600x also heat up with most stock BIOSes, so with undervolting You can gain performance and lower temperature. I went from like 85C to ~72C.

  • @TheDinotz
    @TheDinotz Год назад +69

    This is a pretty damn great vid. Chasing efficiency when building PCs should become more of a trend rather than going with the samey and boring balls to the walls configs. Very fun and you made me consider more this facet when I am gonna build my next PC

    • @emptyshirt
      @emptyshirt Год назад +3

      I bought a 1660 Super in early 2020 because it was the most efficient GPU at the time. It still shows up in efficiency charts, though only impressive today for the low idle power draw.

    • @nadtz
      @nadtz Год назад +5

      It has been a thing for ages. Maybe it's more of a European thing for the average single gamer PC setup because electricity costs more over there but as someone who does IT for a living TCO has been a part of building clients and servers for a long time.
      Homelabbers also generally care a lot more about this kind of thing for somewhat obvious reasons. The thing I'd have liked to have seen would have been a comparison of the original PC with undervolt tweaking to see how much less power that system could have used compared to the difference in performance as well as the difference with the new setup for a more fair before and after.

  • @thewedgebiggs
    @thewedgebiggs Год назад +41

    This is about the only channel I don't skip through his in-video ad even that is well written and enjoyable to watch 😂😂

  • @octavian-mt8zy
    @octavian-mt8zy Год назад +183

    the noises Dawid makes when he flips the power switch on the power supply sure does make me wanna buy it even more

    • @ResidentIT_
      @ResidentIT_ Год назад +3

      i spec'd my next pc with one of those psus. now i REALLY wanna get one

    • @villaorange
      @villaorange Год назад +1

      Yea, that made me clicked the amazon link indeed. I closed that browser tab in a nanosec once I got a glimpse of that pricetag

    • @Grimmwoldds
      @Grimmwoldds Год назад +3

      I don't think you are exactly sane.
      If you like the noise Dawid makes when he flips the power switch on the power supply, you need to
      1)Buy a be quiet! *DARK* POWER PRO 13
      2)Buy a Dawid

    • @malloot9224
      @malloot9224 Год назад

      I have this PSU and it's every bit as hot as he sells it...

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Год назад

      @@Grimmwoldds Dawids are expensive these days

  • @fyebil
    @fyebil Год назад +24

    Never forget the stretched 360 Dawid that was taken from us

    • @Foggy404
      @Foggy404 Год назад +2

      Luckily I still have it for future viewing, plus it's still somewhat up

    • @AnnaDoes
      @AnnaDoes Год назад

      @@Foggy404 its just been unlisted but might be available if you saved it :D

    • @AchiragChiragg
      @AchiragChiragg Год назад

      ​@@Foggy404link

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz Год назад +45

    I love how previous upload matched the theme of "stupid".

    • @uzuhl2
      @uzuhl2 Год назад +4

      i saw the original video and thought it was just part of the bit for the first minute or so

  • @nightbirdds
    @nightbirdds Год назад +25

    @DawidDoesTechStuff Effeciency is pretty good, there. But, what if building a system is not an option? It would be fun to see if that 11900K could be detoasterified.

    • @Blackwing2345635
      @Blackwing2345635 Год назад +6

      11900k is cursed, but IIRC still undervolts quiet fine

  • @TheCuriousLittleRhino
    @TheCuriousLittleRhino Год назад +25

    Makes the 15-25w in gaming handhelds(steamdeck and such) even more impressive given their performance. Would be interesting to see some direct comparisons.

    • @helicopter234
      @helicopter234 Год назад +10

      Does it though? He is gaming at 1440p high while the handhelds mostly play AAA games at 720p often low settings. At those settings the desktop doesent use much power either.

    • @AchiragChiragg
      @AchiragChiragg Год назад +1

      ​@@helicopter234I think such desktops will draw 50W even after idle.

    • @Zellonous
      @Zellonous Год назад +1

      ​@@AchiragChiraggthat's because power supplies are not efficient at low usage. Handhelds don't have that issue.

  • @terig5584
    @terig5584 Год назад +10

    Dawid did a 180 on his 360 video which I think was the right angle to take.

  • @AwSomeNESSS
    @AwSomeNESSS Год назад +22

    Went from a 980 Ti (~220W while gaming) to a 4060 (~115W) while gaming. With a power cap on the processor it’s a night and day difference on ambient temperatures while seeing double the performance. Guess going from 28nm to 5nm will do that.

    • @1O1O11
      @1O1O11 Год назад +6

      People on RUclips like to hate on the RTX 4060 and 4060 ti, but one thing they really have going for them is they produce a lot less heat than the RTX 3060 ti.

    • @stoneymahoney9106
      @stoneymahoney9106 Год назад +6

      @@1O1O11 That efficiency is a lie - Nvidia have been selling gamers the worst binned dies off their production lines for a while now so they can sell the good stuff to data centres and laptop manufacturers. Nvidia always could have sold us a 3060Ti with half the power consumption but that would have ruined their market segmentation and pricing ambitions.

    • @trikop7575
      @trikop7575 Год назад +4

      We've found one of the few people that actually bought the 4060

    • @AwSomeNESSS
      @AwSomeNESSS Год назад +4

      @@trikop7575 equal in price to a 7600/3060, my region doesn’t have the fire sale 6700/XT/50XT, so price/perf wasn’t that much better moving up a tier. Instead got a a cheap 2TB 4.0 drive for a few dollars more than the upgrade would’ve cost me.

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 Год назад +3

      @@Gatorade69 or if the 4060ti wasn't hot garbage that even loses to the 3060ti....

  • @dbsterben3902
    @dbsterben3902 Год назад +105

    The 1% lows getting higher while unvervolting is quite shocking lol

    • @jebreggie4225
      @jebreggie4225 Год назад +35

      it makes total sense if the gpu wasnt capable of maintaining the clocks consistently. companies push high clock speeds for marketing even if its not practical. gaming for hours needs consistent speed to hit your target framerate having a high boost clock wont help if the card gasses out and slows down because its going to look like youre getting stutters which means you would probably want to turn down settings anyway for a better experience.

    • @AliceC993
      @AliceC993 Год назад +9

      @@jebreggie4225 I have a 6700 XT and it actually performs better when I drop the power target to -6% and lower the core voltage just a little bit. Or, I can just ramp the fans up a little bit. Both have the same effect.

    • @akshatsingh9830
      @akshatsingh9830 Год назад +4

      @@AliceC993 means its doing good generally these gpu have higher power targets and clocks to become first in benchmarks etc resulting in heat and lot of power draw . undervolting is a very under rated trick to lower temps without performance loss but only to a certain point lmao

    • @AliceC993
      @AliceC993 Год назад

      @@akshatsingh9830 Yeah, my card is very picky about how far you can undervolt it; at stock clocks (2581 boost) it doesn't accept anything less than a 20 mV under without artifacting, but HWinfo says that actually results in about 1.14 V at the GPU instead of 1.18 (stock is 1.2). If I drop the boost clocks to ~2400 it'll go all the way down to 1.1v without issue.

    • @rubenalmeida1423
      @rubenalmeida1423 Год назад +5

      @@AliceC993 i undervolted my 3070 to 950mV while raising the clocks to 1960mhz, but then i decided to go the extra mile and drop it all the way to 850mV, dropping the clock to 1860mhz, i lost an average of 3~5 fps in gpu bound games, but the power draw and temperatures were a massive success. the game i play withe the biggest power draw is divison 2 and that went from 260w to 180w (i have an aorus master with raised tdp) and the temps barely break the 55º ehrn before it reached 70 something

  • @bafon
    @bafon Год назад +16

    You should use Ryzen Master Curve Optimizer for the CPU, automatic undervolts each core :)

    • @ZAND4TSU
      @ZAND4TSU Год назад +1

      Is it safe?

    • @lucidnonsense942
      @lucidnonsense942 Год назад +1

      @@ZAND4TSU yes. It can be bit optimistic and if you do a 24h prime 95 / y cruncher burn in, it might throw the odd error - just use the offset button to bring the voltage back up a notch. IMPORTANT - after you find the settings that work with Ryzen Master (it's AMD's 1st party tuning software) - put them in the BIOS, or you will lose them when you reboot/power down. (Unless you set Ryzen Master to fire up every time.)

    • @ZAND4TSU
      @ZAND4TSU Год назад +1

      @@lucidnonsense942 hmm.ok

    • @ZAND4TSU
      @ZAND4TSU Год назад +1

      Does undervolting mean that the PC will draw less power due to the reduction of Voltage?

    • @bafon
      @bafon Год назад

      @@ZAND4TSU Undervolting the CPU with Ryzen Master will drop the Volt on a per core basis, so that it does not draw more power than it needs to function safely.Less Volt equals less wattage being used for the same operation, and it is safe as the only thing that could possibly go wrong is instability under load, which is easy to recover from. On my 5900X the voltage is dropped significantly, less powerdraw and typical temp under load 60-65C, would definitly recommend trying it.

  • @swede7581
    @swede7581 Год назад +8

    Insane how big difference it is between the 2(im happy im not using or need 600+watt to play at homw during the summer)
    Great video as always

    • @yumri4
      @yumri4 Год назад +2

      The only system i have looked at that draw anything like it was a system i was looking at for at home AI processing. To reduce my times for training from a week to a day and AI generated content from minutes to seconds. Why AI? Well AI is the new big thing so have to learn how to use it to be competitive in the job market. Still the price tag of around 4500USD to 6000USD is a price that is hard to swallow for a system that will also raise the power bill even when idle and generate a lot of heat when at 100% loads which will go on then off then on then off as AI gen is not a consistent load but on then off kind of then. Gaming probably is nicer to consumer hardware then AI software.

  • @EnigmaticGentleman
    @EnigmaticGentleman Год назад +8

    You really shouldve used AMD Curve Optimizer on the CPU, i was able to shave 25 watts off my 5600 with only a 2% performance loss.

  • @TheTryingDutchman
    @TheTryingDutchman Год назад +25

    i have a 5700x with a 4070, the powerdraw to performance ratio is insane.
    i upgraded a few months ago, before that i was using a ryzen 3600 with the rtx 3060 12gb.
    after the upgrade the powerdraw was nearly similar, while the performance drastically increased.
    an upgrade path i totally recommend btw

    • @Cris-P-Bacon
      @Cris-P-Bacon Год назад

      Did you retain your PSU or also upgrade it along with the CPU and GPU?

    • @TheTryingDutchman
      @TheTryingDutchman Год назад

      @@Cris-P-Bacon i kept the same 500 watt psu, because it was only 18 months old and i do not do any overclocking. Although i would recommend 550 or 600 watts to have a bit more margin :)

    • @Cris-P-Bacon
      @Cris-P-Bacon Год назад +1

      @TheTryingDutchman that sounds good! I also currently have a 3600 and 550w PSU and am looking to upgrade to a 4070.

    • @TheTryingDutchman
      @TheTryingDutchman Год назад

      @@Cris-P-Bacon your psu will be fine :)
      The 3600 will definitely become a bottleneck though, it wont be able to feed the 4070 enough data to get the most out of it. (It even bottlenecked my rtx 3060 in some games, i have some benchmarks on my channel)
      Going up to a Ryzen 5600 (should be plug&play) will be sufficient, however if you also do some video editing or want some '8 core bragging rights' (lol) the 5700x is perfect.
      Enjoy the 4070 :D

  • @sovic20
    @sovic20 Год назад +2

    I'm just wondering if the PC runs stable. I see B550-I is used together with an RTX 4000 series GPU. A lot of people sees instability and crashing with this combination and Asus is not going to fix that

  • @evl619
    @evl619 Год назад +2

    For those who doesn't know, ROG B550i does NOT work with RTX40 series and Asus is doing NOTHING about it!
    We need help from Tech Jusus!

  • @renerant
    @renerant Год назад +35

    I was expecting a 7800x3d, or 5800x3d, but that's fine also. Generally, the 4070 should be faster at FHD, equal at WQHD and slower at 4k compared to the 3080.

    • @thejaegerbomber99
      @thejaegerbomber99 Год назад +1

      I got a 4070 for my next build. The performance at 1080p is the same as the 3080 Ti, but consuming way less power.

    • @bootchoo96
      @bootchoo96 Год назад +1

      @@thejaegerbomber99 why would you want a top card for 1080p...?

    • @renerant
      @renerant Год назад +1

      @@thejaegerbomber99 according to TechpowerUps' 4070 Founders Edition launch review (April 2023), the 3080ti was "only" 6% faster at 1080p than the 4070, so it's quite possible that with 3 months of driver development, it is now almost equal. Though, at 1440p, the 3080ti was 11%, and at 4k 19% faster, and those gaps are too much to make up with driver updates.

    • @renerant
      @renerant Год назад +1

      @@mikeycrackson and you SEEM to think I was expecting x3d CPUs because of their performance, not knowing that the (at least the 8-core) V-cache CPUs are actually very very efficient, especially the 7800x3d...

    • @thejaegerbomber99
      @thejaegerbomber99 Год назад

      @@bootchoo96 the 4070 isn't a top card by any means. If you were talking about the 4080 or 4090, I'd believe you, but the 4070 is an upper mid-range graphics card.

  • @IcebergTech
    @IcebergTech Год назад +1

    Sort of wish I'd heard about the "fondle"payment option for the 5700X. I'm always in favour of a five finger discount 👌

  • @KioRio_
    @KioRio_ Год назад +9

    Now that's what happens when Dawid decides to experiment a bit. He breaks stuff and then has to reupload it :-)

  • @Deja117
    @Deja117 Год назад +7

    Thank you, watching again to see that sweet setup. The VR is a nice idea though... For future things perhaps. Maybe if you go abroad to buy another PC or something? :)

  • @lyzrchllyhvd
    @lyzrchllyhvd Год назад +22

    You should flip the fans around, exhaust helps system temps hugely in these systems

    • @MartinGibault
      @MartinGibault Год назад

      Yes in particular in the Meshlicious !

    • @LordComdrGC
      @LordComdrGC Год назад

      I guess it all depends on components. With a 13700K and a 3080 my Meshy performs better with the fans on the AIO set to intake. I also did the 92mm top fan exhaust mod.

  • @MrSnackpackable
    @MrSnackpackable Год назад +5

    Good job. One of the more interesting build videos I've seen. I myself tend to forget about power draw and temperature when considering parts but now that I've seen this I'll make sure to reconsider. 👍

  • @joannaatkins822
    @joannaatkins822 Год назад +7

    I think the difference efficiency makes when idling and gaming is massively underrated, so I'm really glad to see you exploring this so publicly!
    I'm in a household with four, regularly used, computers. For work, play etc they are very carefully balanced between performance and efficiency. I built them this way specifically with our electricity bill in mind!
    We have a art/work computer, two light gaming rigs for our two kids, and a gaming system for myself.
    All together at 100% utilisation all four systems would only just manage to use more wattage than a 4k gaming system, coming in at 700w combined, which is honestly kind of mind blowing.
    Thank goodness you're making that switch to efficiency, for your own sake and Anna's!

  • @Fender178
    @Fender178 Год назад +7

    Good to see that you found a more power efficient system and made even more power efficient by undervolting it. Also the 4070 has the same amount of vRAM or 2gb more of vRAM depending on what version of the 3080 you have. LOL you should use your 11900K system in the winter as a space heater.

    • @iris4547
      @iris4547 10 месяцев назад

      this is why i dont usually buy the top end. its a matter of diminishing returns. youll get 10% more performance for 200% the cost and 300% the power draw. i dont buy cheap by any means, but 1 or 2 steps down from the top end usually nets far better results and means you can upgrade sooner rather than holding on for dear life to the thing that cost more than the modern parts to replace it.

  • @dgorry
    @dgorry Год назад +5

    You and Brian seem to be the only ones that try to be practical about finding a sweet spot and not just the latest and greatest. Similar performance, but cheaper or more efficient makes more sense than a huge electricity bill.

  • @rickymclaren7102
    @rickymclaren7102 Год назад +6

    That’s better! 😂

    • @ifourie418
      @ifourie418 Год назад

      I feel like is not nearly as hilarious though 😂

  • @cptwhite
    @cptwhite Год назад +10

    4:50
    Dawid - "Yeah I think I'll mount the radiator like this"
    GN Steve - "Why do I bother?"

    • @shanekearney78
      @shanekearney78 Год назад

      Thank you. I spotted that and I was beginning to doubt myself!

    • @TheMattaBase
      @TheMattaBase Год назад

      Thanks for mentioning this, I was hoping I wasn't alone in noticing.

  • @Eric_Wolfe-Schulte
    @Eric_Wolfe-Schulte Год назад +6

    Now without 360!

  • @MarcosCodas
    @MarcosCodas Год назад +5

    Would be cool to hear what this means for you in terms of electricity bills.

    • @AwSomeNESSS
      @AwSomeNESSS Год назад +2

      Where Dawid lives, barely a difference. Average the two different stages of power consumption, it comes out to $0.10 USD/KWH. Now, if you’re in a country where it’s $0.4 or more, than you could see some noticeable savings.

    • @PyromancerRift
      @PyromancerRift Год назад

      250w = 1 dollar per 20h of gaming at 20cent a kilowatt. Given that you don't spend your money elsewhere when gaming, it's free realestate. Skip going to see barbie the movie and you can play 200h. People are overblowing the 40 series efficiency. The only tangible good side is temperature and noise if the card is overbuilt.

    • @AwSomeNESSS
      @AwSomeNESSS Год назад

      @@PyromancerRift the way I also see it is if you have the disposable income to be buying 3080/4080/3090/4090 cards, the extra $50-100 on the high end per year in costs with be almost unnoticeable in your general budget. If we’re talking the low end, then turning on the kettle one less time gains you back those couple hours of gaming time.
      Edit: some hard numbers - the difference between a 4060 and a 4090, gaming at SIX hours everyday, is $20 a month at 0.40/kWh. If you’re unable to eat that difference in power usage and your budget, why are you even splurging for a 4090 to begin with?

    • @TV-xv1le
      @TV-xv1le Год назад

      ​@PyromancerRift 250 watts at 4 hours per day where I live is $6 per month. Around $70 per year. In the warm months that also means running the ac less as well. Stretched over a few years you save yourself a few hundred bucks. People forget about the increased cost of cooling your pc room. I had to run the ac in the late fall just to keep my pc room cool.

  • @ChristoMastoroudes
    @ChristoMastoroudes Год назад +10

    You don't need to build a new system. Just set PL1 on the CPU in the bios to something more reasonable like 85watt, and set the power target on the GPU a bit lower in Afterburner. You can take it further and undervolt both.

    • @evrythingis1
      @evrythingis1 Год назад +4

      I think the point was to not lose performance...

  • @bryans8656
    @bryans8656 Год назад +16

    I do enjoy this kind of content. I often learn something new, and I'm always entertained. Keep it coming!

  • @hananas2
    @hananas2 11 месяцев назад +1

    I honestly love efficient PCs more than super powerful ones. Limited my CPU to 3.9GHz all core instead of 4.1 and went from 75W to 60W peak power draw.
    That's 95% of the performance for 80% of the power draw!

  • @darealmrcuts
    @darealmrcuts Год назад +3

    We weren't ready for the 360° 😅

  • @ianemery2925
    @ianemery2925 Год назад +1

    As soon as "for less power" was mentioned, I KNEW it was going to be a Ryzen build; the 240 AIO might be overkill though, I use an old 120mm Corsair H40 on my Ryzen 5600, same as I used on my Ryzen 2600 and previous Intel Xeon 5450 builds, and it doesnt break 70C - ever; even with the original rattly Corsair fan replaced with a much slower (and quieter) Noctua.
    TBF, I have a humungous E-ATX case though a Phantek Enthoo Pro in Titanium Green.
    I Was hoping you would try an AMD GPU though; here in the UK, electric prices are still VERY high (over 40 pence per KWh), so I was very concerned about upgrading from an RX5600XT to an RX6700XT (the 5600XT was an awful purchase I regret), as the 6700XT's TDP is a LOT higher.
    Now I dont play shooters, my nerve damage means I cant hit shit if I tried; I play Eve online; on my 1440 system, with the game capped to 60 fps (all it really needs), the 5600XT was regularly causing my system to hit 220 watts with the fans rather noisy, even after all my undervolting efforts, both hardware and game detail settings, and was averaging 190 watts.
    The bigger, more powerful 6700XT is running smoother, with higher detail levels, and using 20-50 watts less; I havent seen the draw from the wall go past 170 watts, and it never gets hot enough for the fans to spin up.
    That 170 watts means I can realistically expect to play for free once I have the 3x 100 watt solar panels fitted and feeding a 120 A/H leisure battery, at least during the expensive, daylight hours (cheap electric between midnight and 7 am).

  • @markolacic1519
    @markolacic1519 Год назад +4

    Very interesting how power efficient new graphics cards have become.

    • @gametime2473
      @gametime2473 Год назад +2

      The 20 series were pretty power efficient. My 2070 draws like 179W max.

    • @MindBlowerWTF
      @MindBlowerWTF 11 месяцев назад

      They have mostly been efficient. x080 and above and higher end 6800xt and above are the ones taking crazy power to run.

  • @NeneaHerlecu
    @NeneaHerlecu Год назад +1

    I have just upgraded my 2600x AMD Rx480 to 5950x AMD 6700x . Full load is the same on CPU Cuz b350 has a max socket power draw around 150 and gpu is Less, Rx480 pulled 230 with an 8pin. But Performance is way bigger , definetly Waiting 3 years of stutters in Wow and Lol Worth It Now . LOVE ur clips man !

  • @TheDeathM
    @TheDeathM Год назад +6

    I like this kind of review, I don't think I have seen anyone else do it. I would like to see say an all AMD GPU, and a newer Intel CPU to see what they do under the same conditions.

    • @ARedditor397
      @ARedditor397 Год назад

      That is the worst combo for efficiency

  • @djsnowpdx
    @djsnowpdx Год назад +1

    5700X + 4070 is the sensible efficient PC right now. Too sensible for this channel. Unsubscribed. Sidebar: if you got a 12700K for $230 on Prime Day, that’s better, but you have to power limit it to get the consumption down to 5700X levels, where it still outperforms the 5700X.
    I happen to have more dollars than sense, and that’s why I have the 7800X3D and a power-limited 4090 instead. My 4090 is capped to 175 watts and gets less than 60 FPS in Portal Prelude RTX when Frame Generation is disabled, which I’m guessing is approximately 4070 performance using a bit less power. The 7800X3D is a 50% faster, 50% more efficient 5700X, and both components and the associated platform cost over double what Dawid paid.

  • @kaisersolo76
    @kaisersolo76 Год назад +3

    5800x3d - this is what your cpu should be, you went crazy on the best of build, pulls less when gaming and way better gaming cpu. 4070 good choice. nice informative video

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers Год назад

      ''the average power consumption of the Ryzen 7 5700X was only 73.5 watts, while the R7 5800X3D consumed more, averaging 89.4 watts.''

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 Год назад

      @@Safetytrousers average is not a good point of comparison, median is

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers Год назад

      @@jesusbarrera6916 Median depends on what you are doing with the CPU at any given time. It is a pointless measurement if you want to find out which CPU will use the most power over time.

  • @alejandrohaynes81
    @alejandrohaynes81 Год назад +4

    Glad that Dawid's new pc was able to cool AND un-distort his apartment

  • @mt-ze7bd
    @mt-ze7bd Год назад +1

    I have a laptop with a rtx 3060 and ryzen 7 5800H and my whole system draws like 170 watts, THE WHOLE THING. That's just as much as his old CPU alone. btw the CPU draws 30 watts at max.

  • @OldManBadly
    @OldManBadly Год назад +1

    You missed one additional control in the whole deal that would have really confirmed the difference: how much the room would go up with just the monitor and such turned on and all PCs out of the room. My guess is if it is more than say 25-28C outside, your ambient temp in the room with the AC off would have gone from 20.5 to probably 22. So the "new" system would contribute 1.5 degrees, and the old system nearly 3. That difference is so much more significant when you put it in those terms.
    In money terms, it's also super important: If you game all day (say a nice 10 hour session) you would use both the higher amount of power (200 watts between the systems) AND whatever additional power the AC would be pulling to try to keep the room temp in check. Depending on how close to mafia pricing your local utilities use, that could just about pay for your new system in a relatively short amount of time - and you could sell the power hungry system to someone who is "in the family" and might not have to pay the power mafia off.

  • @malloot9224
    @malloot9224 Год назад +1

    You could propably have just tuned down the TDP of both the GPU and the CPU to 200 and 65w to achieve the same result without building a PC, but that makes a more boring video lol

  • @drg19841
    @drg19841 Год назад +1

    Kind of shocked you didn't reach for an RTX A4000 or A4500. They're both under 200 watts peak draw, and comparable to the 3080

  • @Tonka710
    @Tonka710 Год назад +1

    Man I stumbled across this channel like two days ago and this is like the third time one of your videos pops up, now I have no choice but to subscribe.
    Thanks alot...

  • @Kaiken07
    @Kaiken07 Год назад +1

    How are those random black screen crashes treating you? You can thank Asus and their B550I for that nonsense. Almost a whole year later and they give zero f*cks.

  • @PCJesus0
    @PCJesus0 Год назад +1

    this is the reason i've been thinking about selling my desktop and getting a laptop, my system runs HOT, i have no clue how much it uses, but i think a 11700k and 3060ti is suitable for a heater in winter

  • @petrinafilip96
    @petrinafilip96 Год назад +1

    Maybe I'm crazy but I live without AC in an area where summers are like 80% humidity and 38 C in shade and I still game in a small room with terrible airflow. I just got used to it since I was a kid.

  • @xingbutcher
    @xingbutcher Год назад +1

    These videos are truly useful and so much better than watching computer techs slap together horrible PC's from Aliexpress trash for the lols. Thanks!

  • @doctorno3912
    @doctorno3912 Год назад +1

    Throw down a rug in front of your computer and cuddle up to your girl. It's like making sweet love down by the fireplace 😆

  • @ryankhelil1512
    @ryankhelil1512 Год назад +1

    You are not using all the 4070 pretentious that R7 5700x is bottlenecking your system at 1440p

  • @kyriakos2311
    @kyriakos2311 Год назад +1

    Now, that's a trend that every techtuber should start promoting. Nice vid Dawid!!!

  • @xanderwusky3001
    @xanderwusky3001 Год назад +1

    Can we please get one in the winter for a system that will function not only as your gaming pc, but also as your neighborhoods central heating unit?

  • @tae_mx
    @tae_mx 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ah yes, very innefficient
    *looks at 3090ti drawing 80w at idle*

  • @Zebra_Paw
    @Zebra_Paw Год назад +1

    An ITX build is very much not a great idea, because the motherboards are usually less power efficient, there's a lot less room for cooling, and usually you can put a lot less stuff inside when it comes to like hard drives, PCI cards etc...

  • @greenerell484
    @greenerell484 Год назад +1

    more reviewers need to talk about performance per watt especially with how much the cost of electricity has increased

  • @FoxRacingGaming
    @FoxRacingGaming Год назад +1

    You need a much bigger case..... idk how you didnt notice that but yeah... cramming everything in a super small case doesnt help with heat, or airflow.

  • @krazypeople4
    @krazypeople4 Год назад +1

    560 watts thats cute, my computers radiator fans alone pull 200 watts.

  • @Fard1n2
    @Fard1n2 Год назад +1

    I have a 15.6 inch laptop. Does any know how big 24inch monitor will be compared to the laptop screen?

  • @PyromancerRift
    @PyromancerRift Год назад +1

    Makes me laugh everytime a canadian or briton complains about summer heat

  • @EmbeddedEnigma
    @EmbeddedEnigma Год назад +1

    Only legends know the 360 view of this video 😂😂😂😂😂😂 with zoomed in face of dawid

  • @robbiegoff7713
    @robbiegoff7713 10 месяцев назад +1

    A couple pennies and a brief fondle? Sounds like the name of a band.

  • @LAffinity
    @LAffinity Год назад +1

    Did actually watch this on my Quest when it was published

  • @sam-in8231
    @sam-in8231 Год назад +1

    The video in 360 gave me a newfound love for Dawid's beard

  • @bloxoss
    @bloxoss Год назад +2

    Such a clean and cool build!!

  • @conor9100
    @conor9100 Год назад +1

    I love your videos in general, and I definitely watch whenever one comes up. In this case though, I was with you until you put the 240mm AIO on the 65w cpu in search of efficiency. Any chance you would do a video on a decent cheap tower cooler vs AIO on these low power 65w chips?

  • @raf9826
    @raf9826 8 месяцев назад +1

    Ahhh Intel+nvidia, the house fire combo😂

  • @LukeZalvino
    @LukeZalvino Год назад +1

    RIP to all the comments in first upload that roasted the hell outta you

  • @real_rivolta
    @real_rivolta Год назад +1

    And here's me getting an RTX 4080 with i7-13700KF 😂

  • @jeffc3160
    @jeffc3160 Год назад +2

    Ive been obsessing over power consumption for months regarding almost the same parts. Thanks for making this video, super enjoyable

  • @blueleyedldevil71
    @blueleyedldevil71 Год назад +1

    Steve says you have your radiator in the wrong orientation. 😊

  • @michaellegg9381
    @michaellegg9381 Год назад +1

    550W is about standard for most everyday computers over the last 15 years so I don't know why it's a problem.. I mean my old mid 90's 486DX4 100mhz had a 300W PSU my Pentium 4 pre built Dell had a 450W PSU witch I harvested as a car battery to run my 3x amps 2x subs 2 6"x9" and 2x 6" coaxial and 2x dome tweeters I built into a home stereo system because it sounds better than than most over the counter hi-fi systems.. witch all run off that old 450W PSU so a newer AMD/NVIDIA GPU and AMD/Intel CPU package with RGB and ram and NVME drive and spinning HDD 550W is pretty much standard equipment.

  • @allenellisdewitt
    @allenellisdewitt Год назад +1

    I don't have a lot of power available in my home, so this kind of focus is SUPER appreicated!!

  • @rustler08
    @rustler08 Год назад +1

    I've very confused why you didn't do a 7600 or a 7600X, or even a 7800X3D if you want baller performance. All sip on power compared to that 11th gen and don't generate that much heat.
    Also, a 4070? You could have just bought a 6900 XT, undervolted, and had more performance.

    • @dragos2010full1
      @dragos2010full1 Год назад

      dud are you serious that fookin 6900xt pulls 100w more than the 4070 and still you wont be able to undervolt it that much to make a difference nvidia is still king in terms of power efficiency while amd tries to give you the same performance for cheaper $$$ but with 3 major drawbacks 1 is way higher power usage 2 is inferior drivers and 3 is inferior ray traycing and Ai stuff

  • @InsanityPrevails
    @InsanityPrevails Год назад +1

    No more Sad Onion Dawid, this is truly the worst day in the History of Humanity 😔

  • @spooksy1982
    @spooksy1982 Год назад +2

    I bought a 4070 for my son who also games at 1440p. My favourite thing about this card is 3080 performance with a much superior power efficiency. The sweet spot of the 40x range.

  • @jameslamb7197
    @jameslamb7197 Год назад +1

    You know, if you looked at a PC as a heater, they suddenly look incredibly efficient. With the average fan-heater drawing around 1500-2000w, a 500w PC doesn't look so bad.

    • @PileOfEmptyTapes
      @PileOfEmptyTapes Год назад

      That's not how _efficiency_ works. A PC has the exact same thermal efficiency as a space heater - exactly 100% of the energy it consumes is being dissipated as heat. It takes up less power but it also heats less.
      Besides, that's also the least efficient such a device can get. If you were to use a heat pump instead, that might reach up to 300-400% (COP = 3-4).