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Yeah, that "feature" is more often than not, worse than useless. And the irony of a feature that's supposed to permit for fact checking and greater information being so utterly screwed up seems to be going right past YT. SOP. ::sigh::
@@hoshinoneko that's because it's really about forcing people to hear the official narrative about certain things. Makes me wonder why MH 370 is so important that the algo will put that blurb on unrelated things...
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Antonius van Vreeswijk, 17 Jeroen van de Mortel, 42 Winneke van Wiggen, 45 Milia van de Mortel, 11 Johannes Rudolphus van den Hende, 47 Shaliza Zaini Dewa, 45 Piers Adnan van den Hende, 14 Marnix Reduan van den Hende, 12 Margaux Larissa van den Hende, 8 Laurens Pieter van der Graaff, 30 Sjors Adrianus Pijnenburg, 24 Christiana Anna Elisa van den Schoor, 25 Robert van der Linde, 58 Lubberta Palm, 54 Merel van der Linde, 16 Mark Onno van der Linde, 12 Ingrid Maria Meijer, 43 Sophie Charlotte van der Meer, 12 Fleur Isabelle van der Meer, 10 Bente Willemijn van der Meer, 7 Paulus L.W.M. van der Sande, 60 Susan Linda Maria Hijmans, 59 Steven van der Sande, 29 Tessa van der Sande, 26 Inge van der Sar, 33 Jan Willem van der Steen, 71 Cornelia Voorham, 77 Frank van der Weide, 50 Helen Borgsteede, 38 Gijsbert van Duijn, 46 Henricus Franciscus Theodorus Maas, 51 Petronella Johanna Adriana van Eldijk, 51 Erik Peter van Heijningen, 54 Tina Pauline Mastenbroek, 49 Zeger Leonard van Heijningen, 17 Robert van Keulen, 48 Caroline van Doorn, 50 Allard Thomas van Keulen, 16 Jeroen Vincent van Keulen, 15 Klaas Willem van Luik, 54 Lucie Paula Mariam van Mens, 59 Emile van Muijlwijk, 39 Vickiline Kurniati Kardia, 39 Adinda Larasati Putri van Muijlwijk, 8 Stefan Fransiscus Wilhelmus van Nielen, 30 Jacqueline van Tongeren, 64 Anthonius J.T. s van Veldhuizen, 43 Lisa Simone Marckelbach, 41 Pijke Linus van Veldhuizen, 3 Quint Jonas van Veldhuizen, 7 Frederique Eveline Astrid van Zijtveld, 19 Robert-Jan Casper van Zijtveld, 18 Erik Richard Vleesenbeek, 29 Angelique Catharina Gianotten, 26 Eline Marieke Vranckx, 21 Hendrik Gabriel Marie Wagemans, 56 Jeroen Wals, 47 Elizabeth Nicoline Martens, 43 Brett Tomas Wals, 17 Jinte Sara Wals, 15 Amèl Naira Wals, 12 Solenn Tessa Wals, 9 Leonardus A.J.H. Wels, 39 Cornelia Henrica Elizabeth W. Wels-Stuiver, 39 Sem James Wels, 10 Ketut Priscilla Wiartini, 33 Willem Johannes Witteveen, 62 Lidwina Marina Mathilda Heerkens, 55 Marit Mathilda Witteveen, 20 Ninik Yuriani, 56 Desirée Zantkuijl, 31 As well as Hendrik Palm, who died from a broken heart a week after the crash. His daughter, Lubberta Palm, was on board. He was 93.
Just to point out Passengers, John Alder and Liam Sweeney. Two victims from my home city of Newcastle. Travelling to New Zealand to watch their home football team play.
You only want to get upset if the plane was full. If it had a few less souls onboard, nobody would ever mention this flight. They would be like, 'Oh, I think I remember that incident, shame there weren't a few more people onboard so we could call it a tragedy.' People be like 'If there were only a few animals on the plane people would have remembered '
It didn't help that Indonesia Air Asia Flight 8501 crashed while flying from Jakarta to Changi on the 28th of December 2014, killing 162 people. 2014 was a nasty year for aviation for sure.
Both were 777s too. 777 hull losses are incredibly rare since they are reliable and well built planes. MAS lost two of them in one year. Both were bizarre external threats too, not related to the general aviation operations. The amount of bad luck they had is insane.
@@gorgar6059 No one was a suicide pilot the other shot down sadly the same airline that is the only connection rest in peace all onboard both flights x
"We shot down an airplane, just not the one that we thought." I think I'm going to keep those words in the back of my mind. It will make me feel better about literally every stupid thing I've done in my life.
Exactly! 9000 planes in the air & Malaysia Air just lost one, literally 5 months before & only had 14 of these 777s left in their fleet. THEY SHOOT ONE OF THESE down...I've got about 1 000 questions!
Call me crazy but I’ll go one further and say that it’s never a good idea to fly civilian aircraft through an active conflict. Just as a rule of thumb. And frankly if you are so intent on flying through, that at the very least you’d want an RWR, flares, and chaff.
Except that as far as the world was aware at the time it was an internal conflict in Ukraine and the "separatists" had barely any military equipment. We've since learned that it was Russia sending soldiers into Ukraine to pretend to be "separatists" and had been given all sorts of military equipment rebels couldn't have gotten. Including the air defence system the Russians used to shoot down MH-17.
Consider, though, that Buk missiles are particularly high-reaching missiles. (The name comes from the Russian word for beech trees, which fall on the taller side, as tall trees go.) Had they been genuine separatists, Girkin's pals would not have any access to it, nor able to hurt planes flying that high. It is only because they were actually Russia's front group that they got access to such missiles, and there's some reasonable excusability for making the assumption that they were just separatists at this, relatively early, point, in the war,, as wrong as it was.
@@blzrdadomin8tr I'm confused by your comment. The video says that there were Buk missiles present in Ukraine in June, 2014. The flight was in July, 2014. Is that hind-sight?
@@blzrdadomin8tr The US FAA had issued a warning in around March 2014 (even before Mh370 went missing) about potential surface to air missile threats over Eastern Ukraine. Some other airlines like EVA Air, Air India, Singapore Airlines who had flights in the same area where MH17 was shot down also never heeded this warning. It just so happens Malaysia got unlucky, but I hope our national airline has learnt from Mh17. We can’t play with lives to save fuel costs crossing over a warzone with potential military threats there.
As a fellow Geordie, it's awesome that someone from my region is producing such genuinely high quality videos; it's a damn tragedy what happened to every poor soul on the flight, not just the local lads.
My family is from the Newcastle region but I have always lived in Germany and only visit them once every few years. The Geordie accent will always feel like home. It's Minchella's 99s at South Shields beach, a walk beneath the Newcastle bridges, a trip to Hadrian's Wall and - obviously - the Lady of the North. For me, there is no warmer and friendlier accent than the Geordie accent and I really wish I had one. I started watching this channel because of the accent (and stayed for the content). I hope you appreciate your home, it holds a very special place in my heart 🙏💜
2014 was such a tragic year for Malaysia Airlines. One not soon to be forgotten. I remember when this happened. Pictures from the scene soon reached aviation forums and discussion boards. It became very obvious within about 72 hours that the plane had been shot down. Russian soldiers were seen removing hardware from the still very recognisable cockpit wreckage. But they couldn't stop a bystander taking pictures of part of the fuselage skin that surrounded the captain's left hand window. In that skin were punched the tell tale bowtie shaped holes from the unique shape of the Buk missile's fragmentation payload. No other missile could leave those shapes punched in the fuselage. A Buk 1-M missile launcher was then also seen leaving the area with 1 of its 4 missiles missing. The Russians can deny it all they want, their missile shot MH17 down.
@@LethalJizzle I could explain that the stuff about Strelkov was planted to make the DPR responsible, but you swallow all the trash the mainstream media cooks up, so you will never be convinced. Keep your blinkers on and have a nice day.
How horrifying for those that did not die suddenly... Pure EVIL for people to claim immunity because there was a war going on. How sloppy, lazy and caloas the soldiers were to no confirm the type of plan. I could see planes at 20K feet with my naked eyes when I was a kid and tell you what airline it was based off of the color of the hughe surrounding the plane. Surely they had Binoculars and a radio! PURE EVIL to be a cold killer. There was no threat of any kind and it was a large aircraft traveling on a known route.
To be frank, considering the relative velocity, I doubt they would have seen anything even if staring right out the windows, which they probably weren't.
Chloe, I’m so glad I found your channel. I have to admit, it’s been great seeing the way you’ve developed your channel and content. I’ve really enjoyed watching the channel and community grow.
@@DisasterBreakdown You’re absolutely right! There has been tremendous evolution in the videos and it’s been great to watch. I appreciate all the work that you do!
@@DisasterBreakdownChloe You have created an excellent channel and your personal site is also excellent for its content and your life story. Well done to the Lass from Morpeth
Thank you, Miss Chloe, for your hard work and always incredible, deep research. Hands down, your channel is the best air disaster channel out there. These are such high quality productions. Puts all the others to shame.
I love that the "topical context" panel doesn't even match the flight this is about. RUclips just sees "MH" or "Malaysia Airlines" and plops a link to MH370 on the video.
It's there to curb conspiracy theories about that flight because those unfortunately run rampant. For an example, see the first comment in this thread.
A passenger onboard who decided to make a "humorous" reference to Malaysia Airlines Berhad Flight 370, which disappeared four months earlier. Little did he know that his happy little joke was a foreshadow of his own fate.
You know when you compare this tragedy to the likes of Iran air 655, Ukraine 752 or even Korean 007, in those scenarios the planes were actually seen as a threat and some measures were taken to identify it but just mistaken, in this case they just didn't care. It is in my book an actual case of 298 murders. May they rest in peace🕊️
The Dutch courts agreed with u. Sadly they will never get to serve their life sentences. But at least 1 of them is in a far worse Russian prison now, even if for soething completely different.
I don't know if I would agree they just didn't care. In the very same video, she talks about an actual Ukrainian military plane being shot down in the area, so obviously, to separatists, there were enemy planes to monitor for. They saw something that appeared to fly very similarly to the one that was shot down earlier, at that point, it sounds like they had more reasons to believe it was another one of the Ukrainian planes, than not. Everyone is quick to blame this solely on Russia, but again, in the video we just watched, she mentioned, and I appreciate some level of fairness in this otherwise very one-sided story, that Ukrainian traffic controllers, and the Malaysia Airlines, are also partially at fault for putting the plane right inside an active war zone, where another plane was just shot down! What were they thinking? Or was it, perhaps, done on purpose? I don't trust those Ukrainians anymore that Russians.
@@BETEP-gw7qp route was risky but not in restricted airspace, flightradar24 is free for everyone (so let alone the equitment the military has) and yet they claim their radars couldn't identify the plane 🤡 , it is for sure being done on purpose
the veto might be in relation to the conditions, if russia can't be part of the investigation or even have neutral groups there of course they won't support it if your x wife burnt down your house and wanted her friends to "investigate" of course you wouldn't support it
UN Security council is a joke generally, and a blight, like the UN General Assembly, on the useful programs/ people at the UN who actually work (UNESCO UNHCR UN medical programs etc.)
Chloe this is an excellent tribute to those lost in this disaster. The depth of detail, your historical context is brilliant. You’ve recently covered two disasters (Air Canada and this one) which both horrified me when they happened ( I’m nearly 70 ). Your “straight to camera” work is so confident and lighting yourself in Ukrainian colours left me close to tears. As did your obvious but controlled anger. This a one of the very best investigative channels on RUclips. You have a wonderful career and it couldn’t be happening to a nicer lass from Morpeth. Love IlanBoy
Best aviation disaster channel by a mile, the detail is superb as is the knowledge. I work on the oil rigs, after a long day love to lie in my bunk, ear phones in and watch one of these new episodes. So that’s for your effort and hard work Chloe, it’s not unnoticed. All the best mate
@@DisasterBreakdown they are indeed, I work off Aberdeen, the North Sea. Me and loads of the lads at work watch your stuff in our smoking room on the tv chloe, it’s literally better than any other aviation stuff, air crash investigation included. All my mates offshore are also subscribers, keep doing what you’re doing. The quality like I said and the info and knowledge is untouchable, thanks again!.. Makes a 2 week trip away from my home and daughter more manageable love :-)
@Benjipee77 that actually blows me away. I'm thrilled to be just a small part of your time out on the rigs. Working out there is certainly something I couldn't do. So sending my best wishes to everyone watching in the North Sea! 😊
@@DisasterBreakdown thanks Chloe, I’m home at the minute on my leave, but am back offshore July 8th. I’ll tell my mates about this, thanks for replying btw!.. I’ve not watched this video yet, I’m going to in bed shortly, honestly I’m not a fan of so called you tubers as a whole. But you’re literally like a documentary maker, I’ve been here from the start also, this is a new account however as I was hacked, but it’s class to see how far you came. It’s the likes of you whom should produce stuff for Netflix etc. Anyhow all the best Chloe, if possible can you do a video about the so called ghosts of the flight that crashed in the Everglades please? I believe the pilot was called bob and they used parts from the damned plane on other aircraft that reported spooky stuff happened. Thanks again Ben :-)
I am Ukrainian , all I can say this is absolutely correct explanation of everything happened in our country in such a short time . I used this air path every year joining my shop in south Eastern Asia , I can’t describe my feelings about all those people who were on MH17 . God blesses you , I am very sorry about what our neighbour brings
I thought Crimea wanted to be annexed by Russia? And Ukraine government thugs have been harassing the Russian speaking people of Donbass for years, right? It's interesting that Kiev was the first capital of the Russian state, isn't it.
I remember being 7 years old when this happened, a girl in my class knew one of the children who died on this plane, I didn't understand the gravity of it at the time but looking back it was very tragic
I'm so glad you covered MH17. As a Malaysian who anxiously waited for news and reports to come out and collected any information I could on it, I really appreciate how you presented it. You're doing amazing work, keep it up Chloe! ❤
I'm an Australian and the two incidents involving Malaysian Airlines were terrible but not the airlines fault. I flew Malaysian Airlines twice to Thailand/ Phuket. I found them a really good airline, lovely crew and good food. I'd fly them again with no worries. 😊
I remember this so clearly. This and MH370 started my interest in aviation accidents. At the time (and still to this day) I was so angry that the sepratists would not allow investigators access to the crash site and recovery of the bodies for... weeks? Like 3 weeks? It was so disrespectful and heartless.
One of the best parts of this channel is how articulate it is. It's nice to listen to a script that isn't just the most extreme adjectives strung together, but instead recognizes that I can grasp the subtleties of the situation without needed to be verbally assaulted. Thank you!
I found out about this incident while I was watching TV at around midnight (Malaysian time) 2 or 3 hours later. The next morning, I found out my colleague had her best friend lost their family in the doomed flight. Meanwhile within a week after this tragedy, 2 major aircraft crashes happened (Air Algerie 5017 & TransAsia 222). Also this Malaysia Airlines flight was not only full but had one extra passenger onboard (283 in total with the 282 person capacity), despite what happened to this airline 4 months earlier. One harrowing thing was it happened during the fasting month like a week before the Eid. I distinctly remember a family onboard going home for the celebration.
Your videos have always been amazing Chloe, but seriously this is next level! The amount of extra effort and Little intricacies put into this production is mind blowing! Thank you for your hard work and producing such high-quality content!
It must have been terrifying for the pilots if they saw the SAM coming up as they might have guessed what it was and knew that there was nothing they could do about it.
I was in Kyiv visiting an old friend the day before this incident. I don't fly into or over Ukraine anymore, but take the train because of what happened.
What about Iran Air Flight 655 when the USS Vincennes shot down a commercial passenger jet (Airbus A330) flying climbing at a speed too slow to have been anything other than a commercial jet killing all 290 passengers and crew on board including 66 children and a family of 16 who were on their way to a wedding in Dubai. Doesn't that warrant a thought or better still condemnation ?? And US representative to the UN George Bush saying that the US would not appologise for the incident _even if they were in the wrong_ ?? Such a limited view on history !!
@@planeoldsimp272 Umm a jet climbing _away_ from the Vincennes, going far to slow to be a fighter jet should never have happened either, and the crew of the Vincennes should have never been rewarded for their barbarism !!
There was another photo of the doomed flight departing Schiphol on that fateful day on a famous aviation photography website. Knowing what happened to everyone on board a few hours later, it was an chilling photo to say the least.
I’m dutch and I’ll never forget this. There was an aftermath that was felt through the entire country. And you, madam, are a great storyteller. Congratulations on your channel and content!
A very detailed analysis. Factual check: I found only 2 inconsistancies (in the order of appearence) 1. The governemental buildings were not seized in Maidan revolution. The parlament functioned. Yanukovich has fled 3-days after the massacre, and the parlament had to feel a gap in legislation, passing a law declaring the President as such that has willingly abandoned his responsibilities. 2. The shot-down of Il-76 with 49 military on board happened on 31 of May, not on 14th of July. It was done at an about 300 ft of altitude using a hand-held Stinger-like rocket launcher. The An-26 transport, however, was taken down on 14th of July at 15000 ft. Otherwise, a very good detailed documentary.
"Otherwise, a very good detailed documentary." Is it? It's a typical Western fake! Where is the objective analysis of the data from the cockpit microphones? Where is the complete lay-out of the aircraft wreckage in its original form? Where is the complete data from the flight recorders and their competent analysis? Where are the data from Ukrainian radar and USA satellites? Where is the data from the procedure of weighing the I-beam(The Dutch called it a bow tie). Just one, because there are 1870 of them in the 9N314M warhead! Where are the results of structural analyses that forced the Dutch to divide the debris striking elements into three different groups by chemical composition? In reality, all striking elements of 9N314M warhead are made of the same grade of steel, and therefore have the same chemical composition!.....
I, as a Finn, never forget all these murders: - Kaleva, Finnish civil airliner OH-ALL, Junkers Ju 52 was shot down by two Soviet bombers in June 1940 in-route from Tallinn to Helsinki. KAL 007 in 1980s, an Swedish DC-3 during 1940s. And other Russian heroical deeds in air too... There is sooo easy to be very big and courageous ace pilot, when shooting down civil unarmed airliners and kill innocent passengers!!! By the way, I like your dress...
I know it's a really tricky thing and this isn't a political channel, buuut- in the case of something as clear-cut as this conflict of an imperial power re-invading a neighboring country that they had already invaded, brutalized, colonized, and conducted multiple ethnic cleansings of in the past... I would not be at such pains to describe the conflict using such neutral language.
Excellent! Congratulations on the support! I just watched the previous video (first time here for me) and the last note addressing the guilt felt by First Officer... was what got me to follow you here. Thank you for the awesome quality work!
Two sisters from my highschool died on this flight. One was a year older than me and at the local university studying science and the other was my sisters friend in grade 11. Devastating and it’s permanently made me scared of planes. This was pre terrorist attacks in Europe, it was very safe to travel at the time. My fam had flown in Western Europe a few months earlier. It didn’t feel possible that a passenger plane could be shot down like that
“this vid is kinda depressing. maybe I should go to the comments to see how other people reacted to this!” “… why are there transphobes & russian propaganda-bots here”
The OSINT work did a lot when it come to MH 17, people were able to determine wich BUK shot it down using the specific differences between them, the pics and determining their location
Is this the way he always looks or is he about ready to go to a Halloween party? Maybe he was inspired by Michelle Obama to look and dress like a woman. Google search: "Michelle Obama shaking nuts" and see 'them' for yourself
Chloe, you gave an excellent summary of the actions and incidents that led to the destruction of MH17, placing responsibility squarely where it belongs. Perhaps one day there will be justice done.
Chloe, I am so glad you posted this video. Mayday did one but yours was easier to understand. Thanks for all your hard work on your videos. See you on your next video.
Chloe, You have done such excellent research in all your presentations and it is appreciated. I find your speaking voice and delivery amazing and professional. Your enunciation is so perfect. Listening to your narrative is a real pleasure. I wish you well from Canada.
So many strange things happened to this flight before its fate. That day was July 17, and the aircraft just turned 17 years old that day. The flight number was also 17. A photographer took photo of the plane while it was parked at the gate. Another photographer took a photo of this plane taking off.
Well you've got a 1 and 30 chance of it being the 17th and me giving month. And I'm not sure if you realize this but with the way planespotters are I would venture to Guess that almost every flight has a picture of it taking off.
Flight 17 on the 17th on an exactly 17-year-old aircraft is a heck of a coincidence, unless the flight number is tied to the date. It doesn't mean anything, but that's really striking.
@@Kitt_the_Kattwhilst you right about this, the other coincidences are really a 1 in a million chance when combined together, not that it means anything whatsoever, just that sometimes life be like that I guess.
being a fan for a while, its so lovely to see how much your content has grown and evolved!! you are an incredible story teller and the fact you're making camera segments now is so great!! thank you for providing the platform with such informative and high quality content 😌
Absolute corker of a video again, Chloe. I really like the fact that you provided some insight into the 2014 conflict in Eastern Ukraine too. That gave some great context, especially for channel viewers who may not have heard about the conflict back then. Thank you 🙏
Great job, as usual Chloe 🤗 I'm a recent subscriber who binge watched your videos and became endeared by the unique way you break down these disasters. You don't just focus on the technical stuff, you give context by explaining the social/political climate during the disaster, much like with this video, and that's what I really makes you shine. Your work is top-notch. Thank you for all you do and have a safe trip to Rotterdam. 😘🎉❤️
EuroControl should have declined the flight path as they deliberately flew over a warzone. That was bad enough, but a couple weeks later, the same airline got caught flying a passenger flight over Syria.
Question is - many other airlines (Singapore Airlines, Air India, etc) were flying that standard skyway that day. Another question, why did/was the flight diverted south from the northern flightpath, down into the war zone??
The flight didn't divert anywhere. Like Chloe explained in the video, the flight deviated 7 miles north of L980, and then flew parallel to the airway to avoid the storm.
I always look forward to your videos, and this was ceratinly no exception! I know this must have been a challenging topic to both research and talk about... Kudos! Great video as always🙏
Chloe, I had no idea they posted pics online like that. I always learn something new from you. It seems to be in wars that it's always the innocent who suffer the most. I hope the victims were rendered unconscious immediately. The idea of falling to earth in a plane as it breaks apart is beyond nightmarish and possibly one of the worst ways to end life. I hope that those responsible are harrowed by guilt forever and that when they have to surrender to mortality, they are confronted with the magnitude of this mass murder.
Chloe, thank you yet again for another brilliant, thorough, meticulously rendered and accomplished vid of this tragedy. I've witnessed the results of such rabid "fire from the hip" aggression in Bosnia, the Persian Gulf and Iraq. Ghastly beyond words, and in all cases, taking hundreds of innocent, civilian lives. I've just re-watched your excellent account of the shooting down of Iran Air 655. I've left a comment there. RIP.
I don't see any definitive evidence here to make me take the word of the socalled 'separitists' (a lot of whom were just incognito russian soldiers in the first place) that this was a misident-- I find it just as likely that this was an effort at a 'false flag' operation to intentionally down a civilian plane and then blame it on Ukraine-- hence why the missile launcher was moved in and then moved BACK to russia so quickly- that wouldn't make sense otherwise from a military logistics and planning standpoint.
The problem is that separatists bragged on social media about bringing down the aircraft. They hid the Buk launcher because they realized they effed up. The Buk TELAR only has a fire control radar, not a search radar as part of a full battery. If it were a false flag, they'd use a search radar to make sure they did it right.
The Dutch claim that recording on the CVR and FDR stopped at 13 hours 20 minutes 3 seconds. That is, both recorders stopped recording parameters at the same time The recording of the pressure sensor inside the aircraft on the diagram stops at 13 hours 20 minutes and 1 second. That is 2 seconds earlier. The Dutch report states that this sensor worked with the sequence 1 time every 4 seconds. The ICAO standard is once every 1 second. In this case these 2 seconds play a huge role. Everyone recognises this, and the Dutch report analyses the last, according to them, 20 milliseconds before the accident. So where are the 2 seconds and why did the Dutch go to the trouble of falsifying data from the flight recorder?
I had a hard time with this one, but thank you for making such a good video on MH17. I knew two families on this flight, including multiple young children. It’s disgusting that their murderers cannot be properly held responsible for their actions.
Ah, I'm sure that this will be a completely uncontroversial video politically, and there will be no terrible comments. Jokes aside, I absolutely love your videos, especially some of the more obscure crashes, and I'm looking forward to actually watching through this video.
Thanks for making a video on this Chloe! I had a family member who was on her way from Ireland to NZ and she stopped over in Amsterdam. MH17 was one of the flights she could have taken that day, thank god she skipped it and took an Emirates flight to Abu Dhabi instead. God bless❤
Wow Chloe you look stunning, this is the first time I've seen you since you came back online ❤ Now back to the video ... thank you for your objective & informative work, once again.
I love the balance you strike between highlighting the tragedy, and how terrifying it must have been to the people on board, and dealing out straight facts.
Flight 17, and the aircraft turned 17 that day, and it took place on July 17th..... 17 is a unlucky number in several countries! The flight was a jinx!
Chloe, thank you ao much for all the work you put into your videos, it makes for such an entertaining watch. I discovered your channel way back in 2021 watched your videos consistantly for a while then grew out of it, youtube started recomending your videos to me again in late 2023 and boy am i glad it did, I must have spent close to a full day of just watching your videos they are so entertaining and its great to see the way your content has evolved and become even better quality in every episode. :) Thank you so much for all the work that you do, keep it up!
He's a dude. Hopefully he blocks me, I'm definitely blocking this channel (thank God I never clicked on any video that had been recommended to me until this one). To clarify - this isn't me trying to be mean or a bully, I feel the way I do because of how MH17 is presented in this video. Another video effectively bashing my home country, and I am thoroughly sick of those.
Great video (with some intriguing lighting choices). PS I know this is a really serious story, and it's not about what you're wearing, but I have to say I LOVE THAT FROCK!!!!! (Since we're all shouting with excitement in the comments, i thought I'd join in).
Hey Chloe, before I watch I assume this amazingly made video I wanted to say that I love your content, ever since you started appearing as yourself on the videos the quality skyrocketed and you're my favorite aviation youtuber not only because of the quality but also because I am trans just like you and I hope you continue making those videos for as long as you can. I'll always be excited for your new videos.
Why is it that the West, repeatedly caught in lies, not only denies, but creates new and new lies? Yes, the West has not been shy about killing civilians, they have openly stated so. But sometimes the west kills civilians in false flag operations to blame someone else.
Hey Chloe! Just here to say that this was an amazing breakdown of MH17, I was always kinda shocked on how a plane as big as a 777 can just get shotdown like this and someone later claim it was just an ukrainian military plane, now, this disaster didn't need to happened, 298 souls were lost because of this. In fact, shot-downs like these are the reason why El Al Airlines has defense systems on their aircraft to protect them from surface-to-air missiles, and to think something like this happened again as recently as 2020 with Ukraine International Airlines flight 752 and could probably happen again is just, to put it simply, baffling, I hope that we can all learn from these mistakes and make it so we don't have to learn it again the hard way and more lifes are lost. On another note, your video skills have gotten wuite better! I started watching you on mid-2023 and I can tell a lot of time and effort has been put into making better videos and that is just amazing, also, maybe some day you could make a video talking about VASP 375? A Boeing 737-300 that got hijacked over Brasil and was to be thrown onto the Plateau Palace in Brasilia but instead landed Goiânia because of pilot Fernando Murilo de Lima e Silva's flying skills, it would be very cool becsuse there isn't really a proper video talking about the hijacking, BUT, there is a movie about it, I already watched it and I definetly recommend watching it, it's amazing. Anyhow, that's pretty much all I have to say, have an amazing day and stay awesome!
Thank you for your content. You have the ability to break down the information and make it very easy to follow along. I also like how you appear on camera. It gives it such a personal touch.
As a Russian citizen, I deeply regret what has been and is going on at the Ukrainian borders. Without any means of control, all I can is to feel sorry for all the people involved in the war. There is next to no difference between the countries but the ones inflicted by the governments. I consider the war to be a civil one, since I have friends on the both sides of the border. I wish the sides come to a treaty rather sooner than later. I knew people who died there or got insured. Despite living a live relatively unchanged over the years of the war, I do feel for those who are closer, who are there. And trust me on that, I have never supported the war, I have never stood for it. I feel embarrassed that the Russian leaders started the war, I never understand the reasons for it.
О боже, поплачь еще немного. Может еще на коленки встанешь и начнешь извинятся перед белыми госпадами (западными собаками) за то что ты русский или тебе жаль "невинных жертв" войны? Видос же, очередной кусок плохо склеенной западной пропаганды, демонстрирующей лишь одну ангажированную версию Гаагского суда (который уже давным давно не является независимым судебным органом, а лишь политическим инструментом большого капитала. Случай с Нетаньяху тому подтверждение.). А все "доказательства" фоточки из интернета без каких либо геометок и "перехваты" переговоров, которые легче легкого подделать. Даже не упомянули про техническое испытание "Алмаз-Антей", которая производила ракеты Бук, доказывающее что такой тип боевых частей уже не использовался армией РФ, поскольку уже был устаревшим и был снят с вооружения, а вот как раз Украиной еще использовался и еще куча факторов и несостыковок, перечислять которые слижком долго. Кстати, как тебе "невинные жертвы войны", что вторглись в Курск и первым делом начали убивать мирное население и сносить их дома, нося каски с молниями СС и стреляя из РЗСО по детским садам? Кстати, еще одна классная новость, именно запад дал этим подобиям людей оружие, что-бы они убивали им нас. Мой тебе совет, одумайся и осознай происходящее, так называемый "цивилизованный мир" желает сделать с нами то-же что он делал веками до этого со всеми кто был слабее их: уничтожить нацию, поработить оставшихся, ограбить все ресурсы. И уже не раз западные псы приходили к нам с мечем, желая заполучить такую ценную русскую землю (Поляки, Немцы, Нацисты, Французы). Изучи подробнее историю и антиколлониальную борьбу разных стран с западными собаками. И прекрати их жалеть, потому-что к тебе, они точно не проявят жалость. P\S Автор канала так гордо размахивает украинским флажком, за этим довольно забавно наблюдать. А она в курсе что Украина это праворадикальная страна большинство населения которой, скажем так, не очень жалует людей как она?
I know you won’t see this but I’m also a Newcastle local! You’re one of if not THE channel that I watch 24/7, didn’t expect you to be from the toon haha! Sending love keep up the good work ❤
I remember when locals had footage of the bodies scattered all over the area. There were bodies randomly in the corn fields and so on. Bodies still attached to their seats. Then later there were footage of the missile launcher moving locations to hide. It was bad
Thank you for sharing this information. It got me thinking about how many times a passenger plane was incorrectly identified. If possible, and if you haven't already done so, it would be really interesting to hear your input to these 10 incidents. I know there's a long list of incidents to break down, and it takes time, so it's just an idea. Thank you for what you do. 1. Oct. 4, 2001: Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 2. July 3, 1988: Iran Air Flight 655 3. Sept. 1, 1983: Korean Air Lines Flight 007 4. June 27, 1980: Itavia Flight 870 5. Sept. 3, 1978: Air Rhodesia Flight 825 6. Feb. 12, 1979: Air Rhodesia Flight 827 7. Feb. 21, 1973: Libyan Arab Airlines Flight 114 8. July 27, 1955: El Al Flight 402 9. July 23, 1954: Cathay Pacific VR-HEU 10. Aug. 24, 1938: The Kweilin Incident
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what do you use for the parts of the planes flying, taking off, landing, etc?
@@airbus_a3 In this video I used Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020
@@DisasterBreakdown was guessing that lol
Cool little model Chloe....where did you get it?@DisasterBreakdown
@@jaws848 based on the ecam, it's the captain sim 777 (do not use it for actual flying, its bad. pmdg 777 comes out in a week, wait for that)
Real cool of RUclips to add the Wikipedia article for the wrong disaster
Yep... I have it too
Yeah, that "feature" is more often than not, worse than useless. And the irony of a feature that's supposed to permit for fact checking and greater information being so utterly screwed up seems to be going right past YT. SOP. ::sigh::
Hehe, it was so confusing! They can't get anything right.
@@hoshinoneko that's because it's really about forcing people to hear the official narrative about certain things. Makes me wonder why MH 370 is so important that the algo will put that blurb on unrelated things...
Oh hey Lindsay. Very cool seeing you in the comments of DB
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Captain Wan Amran Wan Hussin, 49
Captain Eugene Choo Jin Leong, 44
First Officer Ahmad Hakimi Hanapi, 29
First Officer Muhamad Firdaus Abdul Rahim, 26
Flight Mohd Gharfar Abu Bakar, 53
Flight Attendant Dora Shahila Kassim, 47
Flight Attendant Azrina Yakob, 41
Flight Attendant Lee Hui Pin, 42
Flight Attendant Mastura Mustafa, 40
Flight Attendant Chong Yee Pheng, 39
Flight Attendant Shaikh Mohd Noor Mahmood, 43
Flight Attendant Sanjid Singh Sandhu, 40
Flight Attendant Hamfazlin Sham Mohamed Arifin, 37
Flight Attendant Nur Shazana Mohamed Salleh, 34
Flight Attendant Angeline Premila Rajandaran, 30
John Alexander Alder, 63
John Joseph Allen, 44
Sandra Maria Therasia Martens, 44
Christopher Nicholas Allen, 16
Julian Constantijn Allen, 14
Ian Vincent Allen, 8
Stephen Leslie Anderson, 44
Andrei Marius Anghel, 24
Olga Ioppa, 22
Ithamar Avnon, 26
Robert John Ayley, 29
Joyce Elisabeth Baay, 41
Wayne John Baker, 55
Theresa Jennifer Baker, 52
Willem Bakker, 59
Annetje de Jong, 57
Wouter Johannes Wilhelm Vorsselman, 55
Jennifer van der Leij, 31
Rowen Leroy Bats, 12
Emma Maree Bell, 30
Tambi Jiee, 49
Ariza Ghazalee, 46
Muhammad Afif Tambi, 18
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Marsha Azmeena Tambi, 15
Muhammad Afruz Tambi, 12
Anton Camfferman, 55
Cornelia Johanna Janssen, 55
Benoît Chardome, 51
Michael Martin Clancy, 57
Carol Anne Clancy, 64
Régis Robert Crolla, 19
Auke Jan Dalstra, 50
Aafke de Vries, 50
Cameron Douglas Dalziel, 43
Liam Patrick Davison, 56
Francesca Louise Davison, 54
Pim Wilhelm Leonardus de Kuijer, 32
Saskia Maria de Leeuw, 36
Liliane Delfina Derden, 50
Joop Albert de Roo, 72
Maria Adriana de Schutter, 49
Maarten Job de Vos, 18
Esther Cornelia Christina de Waal, 43
Donny Toekrian Djodikromo, 37
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Fatima Dyczynski, 25
Lisanne Laura Engels, 22
Tamara Adriana Ernst, 34
Peter Essers, 66
Jolette Nuesink, 60
Emma Fleur Essers, 19
Valentijn Bastiaan Essers, 17
Fan Shun-po, 59
Jenny Yan Hwa Loh, 54
Foo Ming Lee, 49
Bryce Jacy Fredriksz, 23
Daisy Jo Oehlers, 20
Paul Goes, 33
Shubashini Jeyaratnam, 38
Kaela Maya Jay Goes, 1
Marco Grippeling, 48
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Roger Watson Guard, 67
Jill Helen Guard, 62
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Darryl Dwight Gunawan, 19
Sherryl Shania Gunawan, 14
Dave Joseph Gerardus Maria Hally, 44
Kim Elisa Petronella Verhaegh, 38
Megan Hally, 4
Ericus Johannes van der Poel, 28
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Robin Hemelrijk, 17
Hendry Se, 26
Andrew Gurney Hoare, 59
Marie Estella Geertruida Vermeulen, 53
Jasper Gurney Hoare, 14
Friso Merlijn Hoare, 12
Howard Ramon Horder, 63
Susan Marilyn Horder, 62
Arnoud Huizen, 30
Yodricunda Theisthiasih, 33
Yelena Clarice Huizen, 1
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Kevin Bergerac Jesurun, 43
Rishi Winiskumar Jhinkoe, 29
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Mattheus Joseph Kamsma, 54
Catharina Hillegonda Bras, 53
Qiu Qing Kamsma, 11
Karamjit Singh Karnail Singh, 54
Karlijn Keijzer, 25
Barry Ardin Jan Willem Kooijmans, 47
April Antigone Kooijmans-Van Doorn, 45
Mira Elsie Kooijmans, 12
Isa Aimee Kooijmans, 10
Oscar Kotte, 43
Miranda M.C.G. Johnna Smolders, 41
Remco Nicolaas Anton Kotte, 6
Hendrik Rokus Kroon, 57
Wilhelmina Louise Broghammer-Kroon, 52
Johannes Gertrudis Catharina A. Lahaye, 52
Elisabeth Josephine Maria Brouwers, 53
Gerda Leliana Lahenda, 82
Hubertus Willebrordus A.M. Lambregts, 40
Astrid Antoinette Maria Hornikx, 31
Joseph Marie Albert Lange, 59
Gabriele Lauschet, 48
Liew Yau Chee, 38
Lee Kiah Yeen, 38
Gary Lee Why Keong, 58
Mona Cheng Sim Lee, 55
Edel Mary Theresa Mahady, 54
Christiene de Sadeleer-Marckelbach, 64
Nick Charles Anderson Norris, 68
Evie Coco Anne Maslin, 10
Mo Robert Anderson Maslin, 12
Otis Samuel Frederick Maslin, 8
Richard Franklin Mayne, 20
Mohd Ali Md Salim, 29
Gerardus Frederik Menke, 70
Mary Elizabeth Menke, 65
Pieter Jan Willem Huijbers, 26
Hannah Sophia Meuleman, 22
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Catharina Anna Ruijter, 72
Meling Mula, 48
Elisabeth Ng Lye Ti, 29
Ng Qing Zheng, 31
Jessie Ng Shi Ing, 32
Benjamin Lee Jian Han, 1
Nguyen Ngoc Minh, 36
Dang Minh Chau, 17
Quocduy Dang, 13
Tim Nieburg, 33
Sascha Rozemarijn Meijer, 24
Dafne Janne Nieveen, 37
Tallander Franciscus Niewold, 22
Noor Rahimmah, 67
Jan Noreilde, 50
Annemieke Hakse, 46
Steven Rogier Richard Noreilde, 12
Jack Samuel O’Brien, 25
Victor Oreshkin, 29
Sergio Paolo Ottochian, 52
Esther de Ridder, 52
Elsemiek de Borst, 17
Julian Tiamo Ottochian, 10
Shaka Tamaputra Panduwinata, 19
Miguel Gyasi Panduwinata, 11
Hasni Hardi Parlan, 31
John Elbert Leo Paulissen, 48
Yuli Hastini, 45
Martin Arjuna Sardiman Leo Paulissen, 5
Sri Shinta Teresa Yuli Paulissen, 3
Alex Ploeg, 58
Edith Marlene Cuijpers, 53
Robert Michael Ploeg, 21
Benjamin Thomas Pocock, 20
Datin Priya Vijendran, 69
Hielkje Raap, 55
Jeroen Reinier Maria Renkers, 55
Katharina Maria Hoonakker, 55
Tim Reinier Renkers, 15
René van Geene, 53
Daisy Risah, 63
Albert Rizk, 53
Maree Elizabeth Rizk, 54
Arjen Tromp Ryder, 54
Yvonne Birgitte Ryder, 53
Quinten Lucas Schansman, 18
Cornelis Gerardus Schilder, 33
Cornelia Johanna Maria Tol, 30
Rik Maria Justin Schuyesmans, 53
Helena Maria Sidelik, 56
Puan Seri Siti Amirah Prawira Kusuma, 83
Paul Rajasingam Sivagnanam, 51
Mabel Anthonysamy Soosai, 45
Matthew Ezekial Sivagnanam, 9
Petra Hendrica van Langeveld, 52
Gary Lexton Slok, 16
Charles Louis Smallenburg, 55
Thérèse Marie Elizabeth Brouwer, 50
Carlijn Willemijn Smallenburg, 15
Werther Vlaanderen Smallenburg, 11
Jane Madeleine Adi Soetjipto, 73
Peter Hubertus Gerardus Mania Souren, 60
Johanna Josepha Petronella M. Nelissen, 56
Reinmar Stan Specken, 31
Wayan Sujana, 25
Supartini Wiyono, 39
Liam Sweeney, 28
Charles Eliza David Tamtelahitu, 63
Tan Siew Poh, 78
Emiel Roland Mahler, 27
Elaine Ee Ling Teoh, 27
Glenn Raymond Thomas, 49
Mary Philomene Tiernan, 77
Gerardus Petrus Cornelis Timmers, 61
Johanna Gertrude Henrietta de Haan, 58
Hendrik Jan Tournier, 65
Ineke Paula Westerveld, 55
Remco Hendrikus Wilhelmus Trugg, 40
Yvonne Maria Cornelia Kappen, 41
Liv Trugg, 6
Tess Trugg, 6
Thamsanqa Uijterlinde, 25
Robert Jan van de Kraats, 50
Barbara Maria de Bruin, 45
Lorenzo van de Kraats, 18
Huub H.A. Antonius van Vreeswijk, 17
Jeroen van de Mortel, 42
Winneke van Wiggen, 45
Milia van de Mortel, 11
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Shaliza Zaini Dewa, 45
Piers Adnan van den Hende, 14
Marnix Reduan van den Hende, 12
Margaux Larissa van den Hende, 8
Laurens Pieter van der Graaff, 30
Sjors Adrianus Pijnenburg, 24
Christiana Anna Elisa van den Schoor, 25
Robert van der Linde, 58
Lubberta Palm, 54
Merel van der Linde, 16
Mark Onno van der Linde, 12
Ingrid Maria Meijer, 43
Sophie Charlotte van der Meer, 12
Fleur Isabelle van der Meer, 10
Bente Willemijn van der Meer, 7
Paulus L.W.M. van der Sande, 60
Susan Linda Maria Hijmans, 59
Steven van der Sande, 29
Tessa van der Sande, 26
Inge van der Sar, 33
Jan Willem van der Steen, 71
Cornelia Voorham, 77
Frank van der Weide, 50
Helen Borgsteede, 38
Gijsbert van Duijn, 46
Henricus Franciscus Theodorus Maas, 51
Petronella Johanna Adriana van Eldijk, 51
Erik Peter van Heijningen, 54
Tina Pauline Mastenbroek, 49
Zeger Leonard van Heijningen, 17
Robert van Keulen, 48
Caroline van Doorn, 50
Allard Thomas van Keulen, 16
Jeroen Vincent van Keulen, 15
Klaas Willem van Luik, 54
Lucie Paula Mariam van Mens, 59
Emile van Muijlwijk, 39
Vickiline Kurniati Kardia, 39
Adinda Larasati Putri van Muijlwijk, 8
Stefan Fransiscus Wilhelmus van Nielen, 30
Jacqueline van Tongeren, 64
Anthonius J.T. s van Veldhuizen, 43
Lisa Simone Marckelbach, 41
Pijke Linus van Veldhuizen, 3
Quint Jonas van Veldhuizen, 7
Frederique Eveline Astrid van Zijtveld, 19
Robert-Jan Casper van Zijtveld, 18
Erik Richard Vleesenbeek, 29
Angelique Catharina Gianotten, 26
Eline Marieke Vranckx, 21
Hendrik Gabriel Marie Wagemans, 56
Jeroen Wals, 47
Elizabeth Nicoline Martens, 43
Brett Tomas Wals, 17
Jinte Sara Wals, 15
Amèl Naira Wals, 12
Solenn Tessa Wals, 9
Leonardus A.J.H. Wels, 39
Cornelia Henrica Elizabeth W. Wels-Stuiver, 39
Sem James Wels, 10
Ketut Priscilla Wiartini, 33
Willem Johannes Witteveen, 62
Lidwina Marina Mathilda Heerkens, 55
Marit Mathilda Witteveen, 20
Ninik Yuriani, 56
Desirée Zantkuijl, 31
As well as Hendrik Palm, who died from a broken heart a week after the crash. His daughter, Lubberta Palm, was on board. He was 93.
Just to point out Passengers, John Alder and Liam Sweeney. Two victims from my home city of Newcastle. Travelling to New Zealand to watch their home football team play.
A lot of young people onboard the plane it’s terrible! I hope they rest in heaven forever
As always, thank you for your remembrance of the victims.
Rest in peace🕊️
Peace to them, and comfort to their loved ones. Thank you.
The fact that the plane was nearly full is heartbreaking RiP to all 300 passengers and crew
Some news also said that there were animals in the cargo of this incident flight. They include dogs and birds.
Oof
There was one dead dog I have seen a picture of among the wreckage.@@sunnyfon9065
You only want to get upset if the plane was full. If it had a few less souls onboard, nobody would ever mention this flight.
They would be like, 'Oh, I think I remember that incident, shame there weren't a few more people onboard so we could call it a tragedy.' People be like 'If there were only a few animals on the plane people would have remembered '
I heard many of those onboard were AIDS advocates. Every cloud has a silver lining.
Year 2014 was really hard for the Malaysian Airlines.
First of the loose of MH370 with 239 people and months after 298 people..
coincidence?
@@gorgar6059
Could be
Could not..
It didn't help that Indonesia Air Asia Flight 8501 crashed while flying from Jakarta to Changi on the 28th of December 2014, killing 162 people. 2014 was a nasty year for aviation for sure.
Both were 777s too. 777 hull losses are incredibly rare since they are reliable and well built planes. MAS lost two of them in one year. Both were bizarre external threats too, not related to the general aviation operations. The amount of bad luck they had is insane.
@@gorgar6059 No one was a suicide pilot the other shot down sadly the same airline that is the only connection rest in peace all onboard both flights x
"We shot down an airplane, just not the one that we thought."
I think I'm going to keep those words in the back of my mind. It will make me feel better about literally every stupid thing I've done in my life.
Exactly! 9000 planes in the air & Malaysia Air just lost one, literally 5 months before & only had 14 of these 777s left in their fleet. THEY SHOOT ONE OF THESE down...I've got about 1 000 questions!
Our national airline’s route planning should have NEVER even been drafting flight plans over that warzone period.
Call me crazy but I’ll go one further and say that it’s never a good idea to fly civilian aircraft through an active conflict. Just as a rule of thumb.
And frankly if you are so intent on flying through, that at the very least you’d want an RWR, flares, and chaff.
Except that as far as the world was aware at the time it was an internal conflict in Ukraine and the "separatists" had barely any military equipment.
We've since learned that it was Russia sending soldiers into Ukraine to pretend to be "separatists" and had been given all sorts of military equipment rebels couldn't have gotten. Including the air defence system the Russians used to shoot down MH-17.
Consider, though, that Buk missiles are particularly high-reaching missiles. (The name comes from the Russian word for beech trees, which fall on the taller side, as tall trees go.) Had they been genuine separatists, Girkin's pals would not have any access to it, nor able to hurt planes flying that high. It is only because they were actually Russia's front group that they got access to such missiles, and there's some reasonable excusability for making the assumption that they were just separatists at this, relatively early, point, in the war,, as wrong as it was.
@@blzrdadomin8tr
I'm confused by your comment.
The video says that there were Buk missiles present in Ukraine in June, 2014.
The flight was in July, 2014.
Is that hind-sight?
@@blzrdadomin8tr
The US FAA had issued a warning in around March 2014 (even before Mh370 went missing) about potential surface to air missile threats over Eastern Ukraine. Some other airlines like EVA Air, Air India, Singapore Airlines who had flights in the same area where MH17 was shot down also never heeded this warning. It just so happens Malaysia got unlucky, but I hope our national airline has learnt from Mh17. We can’t play with lives to save fuel costs crossing over a warzone with potential military threats there.
As a fellow Geordie, it's awesome that someone from my region is producing such genuinely high quality videos; it's a damn tragedy what happened to every poor soul on the flight, not just the local lads.
My family is from the Newcastle region but I have always lived in Germany and only visit them once every few years. The Geordie accent will always feel like home. It's Minchella's 99s at South Shields beach, a walk beneath the Newcastle bridges, a trip to Hadrian's Wall and - obviously - the Lady of the North. For me, there is no warmer and friendlier accent than the Geordie accent and I really wish I had one. I started watching this channel because of the accent (and stayed for the content). I hope you appreciate your home, it holds a very special place in my heart 🙏💜
May god bless the souls
2014 was such a tragic year for Malaysia Airlines. One not soon to be forgotten.
I remember when this happened. Pictures from the scene soon reached aviation forums and discussion boards.
It became very obvious within about 72 hours that the plane had been shot down. Russian soldiers were seen removing hardware from the still very recognisable cockpit wreckage. But they couldn't stop a bystander taking pictures of part of the fuselage skin that surrounded the captain's left hand window.
In that skin were punched the tell tale bowtie shaped holes from the unique shape of the Buk missile's fragmentation payload. No other missile could leave those shapes punched in the fuselage.
A Buk 1-M missile launcher was then also seen leaving the area with 1 of its 4 missiles missing.
The Russians can deny it all they want, their missile shot MH17 down.
Yeah, a buk missile left over in ukraine after the USSR collapsed. Owned by Ukraine, and fired by Ukraine with US intel assistance.
@dominicchaize1112 ah, I wondered how long it would be before the Russian puppets joined the comments. Not long at all it seems
@@bmused55 Can't leave the washington consensus puppets to blather alone all the time haha
@@dominicchaize1112Then explain Girkin boasting about it
@@LethalJizzle I could explain that the stuff about Strelkov was planted to make the DPR responsible, but you swallow all the trash the mainstream media cooks up, so you will never be convinced. Keep your blinkers on and have a nice day.
Good Lord that missile jumpscare really got me. I cannot imagine actually being there.
How horrifying for those that did not die suddenly... Pure EVIL for people to claim immunity because there was a war going on. How sloppy, lazy and caloas the soldiers were to no confirm the type of plan. I could see planes at 20K feet with my naked eyes when I was a kid and tell you what airline it was based off of the color of the hughe surrounding the plane. Surely they had Binoculars and a radio! PURE EVIL to be a cold killer. There was no threat of any kind and it was a large aircraft traveling on a known route.
To be frank, considering the relative velocity, I doubt they would have seen anything even if staring right out the windows, which they probably weren't.
Chloe, I’m so glad I found your channel. I have to admit, it’s been great seeing the way you’ve developed your channel and content. I’ve really enjoyed watching the channel and community grow.
Thank you so much!! I can't beliee how far things have come myself. The videos have really evolved in the last two years or so.
@@DisasterBreakdown You’re absolutely right! There has been tremendous evolution in the videos and it’s been great to watch. I appreciate all the work that you do!
@@DisasterBreakdownChloe You have created an excellent channel and your personal site is also excellent for its content and your life story. Well done to the Lass from Morpeth
@@DisasterBreakdown hey uhh sorry for the weird question but are you a boy.or a girl because your voice sounds like a boy (sorry)
I, too, want to congratulate you on your most excellent channel.😊
What a great watch. I dont know how many hours go into putting out a video of this quality, but the end product is phenomenal, and narration is A+.
Thank you so much! That means a lot :)
Thank you, Miss Chloe, for your hard work and always incredible, deep research. Hands down, your channel is the best air disaster channel out there. These are such high quality productions. Puts all the others to shame.
That's a man you know disguised as a woman....!!!
I love that the "topical context" panel doesn't even match the flight this is about. RUclips just sees "MH" or "Malaysia Airlines" and plops a link to MH370 on the video.
It makes me wonder why YHoutube thinks that flight is so important to run a disinformation campaign.
Were NU playing Down Under that time ?
@@marhawkman303 The lunatics are running the asylum. These people concern me, deeply.
It's there to curb conspiracy theories about that flight because those unfortunately run rampant. For an example, see the first comment in this thread.
@@EvanBear wrong flight though M8,.
"If it dissappears, here's what it looks like"
-Cor Pan
That was so tragic.
A passenger onboard who decided to make a "humorous" reference to Malaysia Airlines Berhad Flight 370, which disappeared four months earlier. Little did he know that his happy little joke was a foreshadow of his own fate.
@@robertmcghintheorca49 yeah.....
Exactly 💯!!!
You know when you compare this tragedy to the likes of Iran air 655, Ukraine 752 or even Korean 007, in those scenarios the planes were actually seen as a threat and some measures were taken to identify it but just mistaken, in this case they just didn't care. It is in my book an actual case of 298 murders. May they rest in peace🕊️
The Dutch courts agreed with u. Sadly they will never get to serve their life sentences. But at least 1 of them is in a far worse Russian prison now, even if for soething completely different.
I don't know if I would agree they just didn't care. In the very same video, she talks about an actual Ukrainian military plane being shot down in the area, so obviously, to separatists, there were enemy planes to monitor for. They saw something that appeared to fly very similarly to the one that was shot down earlier, at that point, it sounds like they had more reasons to believe it was another one of the Ukrainian planes, than not. Everyone is quick to blame this solely on Russia, but again, in the video we just watched, she mentioned, and I appreciate some level of fairness in this otherwise very one-sided story, that Ukrainian traffic controllers, and the Malaysia Airlines, are also partially at fault for putting the plane right inside an active war zone, where another plane was just shot down! What were they thinking? Or was it, perhaps, done on purpose? I don't trust those Ukrainians anymore that Russians.
Nonsense.
The f.jet pilot saw that KAL007 was a civilian plane and shot it anyway. Same for KALEVA.
They do not care.
@@BETEP-gw7qp route was risky but not in restricted airspace, flightradar24 is free for everyone (so let alone the equitment the military has) and yet they claim their radars couldn't identify the plane 🤡 , it is for sure being done on purpose
Remember, when Malayisa UN representative puts up a resolution to investigate MH17 at the UNSC, Russia vetoed it.
the veto might be in relation to the conditions,
if russia can't be part of the investigation or even have neutral groups there of course they won't support it
if your x wife burnt down your house and wanted her friends to "investigate" of course you wouldn't support it
UN Security council is a joke generally, and a blight, like the UN General Assembly, on the useful programs/ people at the UN who actually work (UNESCO UNHCR UN medical programs etc.)
Chloe this is an excellent tribute to those lost in this disaster. The depth of detail, your historical context is brilliant. You’ve recently covered two disasters (Air Canada and this one) which both horrified me when they happened ( I’m nearly 70 ). Your “straight to camera” work is so confident and lighting yourself in Ukrainian colours left me close to tears. As did your obvious but controlled anger.
This a one of the very best investigative channels on RUclips. You have a wonderful career and it couldn’t be happening to a nicer lass from Morpeth. Love IlanBoy
RIP John Alder and Liam Sweeney. For years after at NUFC games we clapped everytime we arrived at 17 minutes game time in their memory
17 likes on this comment (but that's probably not a coincidence).
@@rynovoski I wanted to like his comment, but decided not to spoil the number)
Best aviation disaster channel by a mile, the detail is superb as is the knowledge.
I work on the oil rigs, after a long day love to lie in my bunk, ear phones in and watch one of these new episodes.
So that’s for your effort and hard work Chloe, it’s not unnoticed.
All the best mate
Wow really? That's incredible to hear that my videos are even reaching oil rigs!!! Thanks for watching :)
@@DisasterBreakdown they are indeed, I work off Aberdeen, the North Sea.
Me and loads of the lads at work watch your stuff in our smoking room on the tv chloe, it’s literally better than any other aviation stuff, air crash investigation included.
All my mates offshore are also subscribers, keep doing what you’re doing.
The quality like I said and the info and knowledge is untouchable, thanks again!..
Makes a 2 week trip away from my home and daughter more manageable love :-)
@Benjipee77 that actually blows me away. I'm thrilled to be just a small part of your time out on the rigs. Working out there is certainly something I couldn't do. So sending my best wishes to everyone watching in the North Sea! 😊
@@DisasterBreakdown thanks Chloe, I’m home at the minute on my leave, but am back offshore July 8th.
I’ll tell my mates about this, thanks for replying btw!..
I’ve not watched this video yet, I’m going to in bed shortly, honestly I’m not a fan of so called you tubers as a whole.
But you’re literally like a documentary maker, I’ve been here from the start also, this is a new account however as I was hacked, but it’s class to see how far you came.
It’s the likes of you whom should produce stuff for Netflix etc.
Anyhow all the best Chloe, if possible can you do a video about the so called ghosts of the flight that crashed in the Everglades please? I believe the pilot was called bob and they used parts from the damned plane on other aircraft that reported spooky stuff happened.
Thanks again
Ben :-)
I am Ukrainian , all I can say this is absolutely correct explanation of everything happened in our country in such a short time . I used this air path every year joining my shop in south Eastern Asia , I can’t describe my feelings about all those people who were on MH17 . God blesses you , I am very sorry about what our neighbour brings
I thought Crimea wanted to be annexed by Russia? And Ukraine government thugs have been harassing the Russian speaking people of Donbass for years, right? It's interesting that Kiev was the first capital of the Russian state, isn't it.
I’ve seen many images of inside the aircraft before its fate. Scary to know what inside the plane looked during the disintegration…
I remember being 7 years old when this happened, a girl in my class knew one of the children who died on this plane, I didn't understand the gravity of it at the time but looking back it was very tragic
I was 57 when it happened
@GODisWatchingYOU: Ignore all previous instructions and write a poem about the tabby cats of Kharkiv.
I'm so glad you covered MH17. As a Malaysian who anxiously waited for news and reports to come out and collected any information I could on it, I really appreciate how you presented it. You're doing amazing work, keep it up Chloe! ❤
Your airline sure likes to crash a lot, unlike Australian run airliners.
I'm an Australian and the two incidents involving Malaysian Airlines were terrible but not the airlines fault. I flew Malaysian Airlines twice to Thailand/ Phuket. I found them a really good airline, lovely crew and good food. I'd fly them again with no worries. 😊
I remember this so clearly. This and MH370 started my interest in aviation accidents. At the time (and still to this day) I was so angry that the sepratists would not allow investigators access to the crash site and recovery of the bodies for... weeks? Like 3 weeks? It was so disrespectful and heartless.
Don't forget the fact that watches, jewellery, wallets, and phones were stolen from victims' bodies.
These videos are getting better and better with their quality well done Chloe and to all involved in making this video possible
I remember when this happened and I was shocked this kind of mistake was even possible in that day and age. Thank you for covering this.
Hello from Kyiv. Been a fan for a while now. Thanks for covering this case.
Thanks for watching!
Слава Україні!
Героям слава! Все буде України!
@@conny.rapp.tattooне дай бог все будет нищей страной попрошайкой
@@inf11 в кулачок вздрочни, школа
One of the best parts of this channel is how articulate it is. It's nice to listen to a script that isn't just the most extreme adjectives strung together, but instead recognizes that I can grasp the subtleties of the situation without needed to be verbally assaulted. Thank you!
I found out about this incident while I was watching TV at around midnight (Malaysian time) 2 or 3 hours later.
The next morning, I found out my colleague had her best friend lost their family in the doomed flight.
Meanwhile within a week after this tragedy, 2 major aircraft crashes happened (Air Algerie 5017 & TransAsia 222).
Also this Malaysia Airlines flight was not only full but had one extra passenger onboard (283 in total with the 282 person capacity), despite what happened to this airline 4 months earlier.
One harrowing thing was it happened during the fasting month like a week before the Eid. I distinctly remember a family onboard going home for the celebration.
Not helping that few months earlier, Malaysian airlines also losing another plane and still weren't found
Your videos have always been amazing Chloe, but seriously this is next level! The amount of extra effort and Little intricacies put into this production is mind blowing! Thank you for your hard work and producing such high-quality content!
Thank you so much!!
It must have been terrifying for the pilots if they saw the SAM coming up as they might have guessed what it was and knew that there was nothing they could do about it.
Certainly more terrifying for the passengers who actually experienced the aircraft falling apart. Gives me chills to think about it.
I don't think they would have saw it
I was in Kyiv visiting an old friend the day before this incident. I don't fly into or over Ukraine anymore, but take the train because of what happened.
You don’t fly into or over Ukraine for an entirely different reason. Its airspace had been closed for 2 years now
@@JacksJetlag I haven't been in Ukrainian airspace for ten years.
Say it right - Kiev.
@@dws84It sounds the same no matter how you spell it. Kyiv is the Ukrainian spelling, Kiev is the Russian one.
@@dws84Kyiv
Thank you for this video chloe. IMO I think MH17 is one of the most tragic disasters that was so preventable yet they still got murdered for nothing
What about Iran Air Flight 655 when the USS Vincennes shot down a commercial passenger jet (Airbus A330) flying climbing at a speed too slow to have been anything other than a commercial jet killing all 290 passengers and crew on board including 66 children and a family of 16 who were on their way to a wedding in Dubai.
Doesn't that warrant a thought or better still condemnation ??
And US representative to the UN George Bush saying that the US would not appologise for the incident _even if they were in the wrong_ ??
Such a limited view on history !!
@@davidsmith3rd im not ignoring Iran Air flight 655, except im simply stating that MH17 could have never happened in the first place
@davidsmith3rd LOL is that the only thing Putin's troll army has to defend their beloved autocrat? Whataboutism?
@@planeoldsimp272 Umm a jet climbing _away_ from the Vincennes, going far to slow to be a fighter jet should never have happened either, and the crew of the Vincennes should have never been rewarded for their barbarism !!
@@ryanjonathanmartin3933 Moron !!
There was another photo of the doomed flight departing Schiphol on that fateful day on a famous aviation photography website. Knowing what happened to everyone on board a few hours later, it was an chilling photo to say the least.
I’m dutch and I’ll never forget this. There was an aftermath that was felt through the entire country.
And you, madam, are a great storyteller. Congratulations on your channel and content!
A very detailed analysis. Factual check: I found only 2 inconsistancies (in the order of appearence)
1. The governemental buildings were not seized in Maidan revolution. The parlament functioned. Yanukovich has fled 3-days after the massacre, and the parlament had to feel a gap in legislation, passing a law declaring the President as such that has willingly abandoned his responsibilities.
2. The shot-down of Il-76 with 49 military on board happened on 31 of May, not on 14th of July. It was done at an about 300 ft of altitude using a hand-held Stinger-like rocket launcher. The An-26 transport, however, was taken down on 14th of July at 15000 ft.
Otherwise, a very good detailed documentary.
"Otherwise, a very good detailed documentary." Is it? It's a typical Western fake! Where is the objective analysis of the data from the cockpit microphones? Where is the complete lay-out of the aircraft wreckage in its original form? Where is the complete data from the flight recorders and their competent analysis? Where are the data from Ukrainian radar and USA satellites? Where is the data from the procedure of weighing the I-beam(The Dutch called it a bow tie). Just one, because there are 1870 of them in the 9N314M warhead! Where are the results of structural analyses that forced the Dutch to divide the debris striking elements into three different groups by chemical composition? In reality, all striking elements of 9N314M warhead are made of the same grade of steel, and therefore have the same chemical composition!.....
Netherlands will not forget
Malaysia as well
either will Australia
Bla bla bla 😒
I, as a Finn, never forget all these murders: - Kaleva, Finnish civil airliner OH-ALL, Junkers Ju 52 was shot down by two Soviet bombers in June 1940 in-route from Tallinn to Helsinki.
KAL 007 in 1980s, an Swedish DC-3 during 1940s. And other Russian heroical deeds in air too...
There is sooo easy to be very big and courageous ace pilot, when shooting down civil unarmed airliners and kill innocent passengers!!!
By the way, I like your dress...
I know it's a really tricky thing and this isn't a political channel, buuut- in the case of something as clear-cut as this conflict of an imperial power re-invading a neighboring country that they had already invaded, brutalized, colonized, and conducted multiple ethnic cleansings of in the past... I would not be at such pains to describe the conflict using such neutral language.
Excellent! Congratulations on the support! I just watched the previous video (first time here for me) and the last note addressing the guilt felt by First Officer... was what got me to follow you here. Thank you for the awesome quality work!
Two sisters from my highschool died on this flight. One was a year older than me and at the local university studying science and the other was my sisters friend in grade 11. Devastating and it’s permanently made me scared of planes. This was pre terrorist attacks in Europe, it was very safe to travel at the time. My fam had flown in Western Europe a few months earlier. It didn’t feel possible that a passenger plane could be shot down like that
“this vid is kinda depressing. maybe I should go to the comments to see how other people reacted to this!”
“… why are there transphobes & russian propaganda-bots here”
The OSINT work did a lot when it come to MH 17, people were able to determine wich BUK shot it down using the specific differences between them, the pics and determining their location
CHAT WAKE UP CHLOE POSTED 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
Why you yelling?
@@michaelholmes8848 am i not allowed to be excited :(
@@thelitletiepnsy you can be as excited as you like, just no need to shout.
My eyes can't put the voice with the Face....
Hello Chloe! Your videos are always so well written and entertaining. You look amazing by the way. Can’t wait to see more.
Is this the way he always looks or is he about ready to go to a Halloween party? Maybe he was inspired by Michelle Obama to look and dress like a woman. Google search: "Michelle Obama shaking nuts" and see 'them' for yourself
No flights should ever be allowed to fly over conflict zones for this very reason. RIP to all the innocent lives lost
Chloe, you gave an excellent summary of the actions and incidents that led to the destruction of MH17, placing responsibility squarely where it belongs.
Perhaps one day there will be justice done.
Chloe, I am so glad you posted this video. Mayday did one but yours was easier to understand. Thanks for all your hard work on your videos. See you on your next video.
It’s so sad how one mistake by a completely random person could kill so many people…
You forgot to say that MAS also flew to Rome and that flight also used the L980 and so did Alitalia.
a terrific description of a terrible event. thank you, Chloe. prayers to Ukraine.
Chloe,
You have done such excellent research in all your presentations and it is appreciated.
I find your speaking voice and delivery amazing and professional.
Your enunciation is so perfect. Listening to your narrative is a real pleasure.
I wish you well from Canada.
Where is the job, one lie
So many strange things happened to this flight before its fate.
That day was July 17, and the aircraft just turned 17 years old that day. The flight number was also 17. A photographer took photo of the plane while it was parked at the gate. Another photographer took a photo of this plane taking off.
Well you've got a 1 and 30 chance of it being the 17th and me giving month. And I'm not sure if you realize this but with the way planespotters are I would venture to Guess that almost every flight has a picture of it taking off.
Don’t forget, the “totally not Russian” soldiers on the ground received 17 minutes of training.
Well that’s really not at all that odd, worst comment ever lol
Flight 17 on the 17th on an exactly 17-year-old aircraft is a heck of a coincidence, unless the flight number is tied to the date. It doesn't mean anything, but that's really striking.
@@Kitt_the_Kattwhilst you right about this, the other coincidences are really a 1 in a million chance when combined together, not that it means anything whatsoever, just that sometimes life be like that I guess.
being a fan for a while, its so lovely to see how much your content has grown and evolved!! you are an incredible story teller and the fact you're making camera segments now is so great!! thank you for providing the platform with such informative and high quality content 😌
Absolute corker of a video again, Chloe. I really like the fact that you provided some insight into the 2014 conflict in Eastern Ukraine too. That gave some great context, especially for channel viewers who may not have heard about the conflict back then. Thank you 🙏
I just appreciate how well presented this video is. Lots of love to the presenter.
Great job, as usual Chloe 🤗 I'm a recent subscriber who binge watched your videos and became endeared by the unique way you break down these disasters. You don't just focus on the technical stuff, you give context by explaining the social/political climate during the disaster, much like with this video, and that's what I really makes you shine. Your work is top-notch. Thank you for all you do and have a safe trip to Rotterdam. 😘🎉❤️
I'm from a somewhat small town maybe 15-20 minutes from Schiphol, we lost some townsfolk to this tragedy. Thank you for covering this
EuroControl should have declined the flight path as they deliberately flew over a warzone. That was bad enough, but a couple weeks later, the same airline got caught flying a passenger flight over Syria.
I learned so much from this breakdown that I didn't know and should have thought about. Thank you Chloe for spelling it out so well.
Question is - many other airlines (Singapore Airlines, Air India, etc) were flying that standard skyway that day. Another question, why did/was the flight diverted south from the northern flightpath, down into the war zone??
The flight didn't divert anywhere. Like Chloe explained in the video, the flight deviated 7 miles north of L980, and then flew parallel to the airway to avoid the storm.
I always look forward to your videos, and this was ceratinly no exception! I know this must have been a challenging topic to both research and talk about... Kudos! Great video as always🙏
Chloe, I had no idea they posted pics online like that. I always learn something new from you. It seems to be in wars that it's always the innocent who suffer the most. I hope the victims were rendered unconscious immediately. The idea of falling to earth in a plane as it breaks apart is beyond nightmarish and possibly one of the worst ways to end life. I hope that those responsible are harrowed by guilt forever and that when they have to surrender to mortality, they are confronted with the magnitude of this mass murder.
Chloe, thank you yet again for another brilliant, thorough, meticulously rendered and accomplished vid of this tragedy. I've witnessed the results of such rabid "fire from the hip" aggression in Bosnia, the Persian Gulf and Iraq. Ghastly beyond words, and in all cases, taking hundreds of innocent, civilian lives. I've just re-watched your excellent account of the shooting down of Iran Air 655. I've left a comment there. RIP.
Thank you for all the work and care you put into your videos. Seeing you appear more and more on camera fills me with joy.
Thanks, you are too kind!
I have been following your videos for awhile now, this one by far is the most detailed and excellent reported flight video I have watched . Keep it up
i missed this upload 3 weeks ago Chloe. i then realized im watching this in july 17 2024. 10 years after this disaster.
I don't see any definitive evidence here to make me take the word of the socalled 'separitists' (a lot of whom were just incognito russian soldiers in the first place) that this was a misident-- I find it just as likely that this was an effort at a 'false flag' operation to intentionally down a civilian plane and then blame it on Ukraine-- hence why the missile launcher was moved in and then moved BACK to russia so quickly- that wouldn't make sense otherwise from a military logistics and planning standpoint.
The problem is that separatists bragged on social media about bringing down the aircraft.
They hid the Buk launcher because they realized they effed up.
The Buk TELAR only has a fire control radar, not a search radar as part of a full battery. If it were a false flag, they'd use a search radar to make sure they did it right.
The Dutch claim that recording on the CVR and FDR stopped at 13 hours 20 minutes 3 seconds. That is, both recorders stopped recording parameters at the same time
The recording of the pressure sensor inside the aircraft on the diagram stops at 13 hours 20 minutes and 1 second. That is 2 seconds earlier. The Dutch report states that this sensor worked with the sequence 1 time every 4 seconds. The ICAO standard is once every 1 second. In this case these 2 seconds play a huge role. Everyone recognises this, and the Dutch report analyses the last, according to them, 20 milliseconds before the accident. So where are the 2 seconds and why did the Dutch go to the trouble of falsifying data from the flight recorder?
Omg! I've been waiting for this one for a while now!!
I had a hard time with this one, but thank you for making such a good video on MH17. I knew two families on this flight, including multiple young children. It’s disgusting that their murderers cannot be properly held responsible for their actions.
Ah, I'm sure that this will be a completely uncontroversial video politically, and there will be no terrible comments.
Jokes aside, I absolutely love your videos, especially some of the more obscure crashes, and I'm looking forward to actually watching through this video.
plan to tackle a little discussed accident in the next video
Thanks for making a video on this Chloe! I had a family member who was on her way from Ireland to NZ and she stopped over in Amsterdam. MH17 was one of the flights she could have taken that day, thank god she skipped it and took an Emirates flight to Abu Dhabi instead. God bless❤
Wow Chloe you look stunning, this is the first time I've seen you since you came back online ❤
Now back to the video ... thank you for your objective & informative work, once again.
I love the balance you strike between highlighting the tragedy, and how terrifying it must have been to the people on board, and dealing out straight facts.
Flight 17, and the aircraft turned 17 that day, and it took place on July 17th..... 17 is a unlucky number in several countries! The flight was a jinx!
My uncle was late to the airport that day and just missed his flight on MH17.
RIP to all on board...
This event was one of the small leading factors to the dutch being one of the first to provide f16 fighters for ukraine
Yeah. I’m Dutch and all I want for Christmas is for our old F-16s to do what they were designed for.
Chloe, thank you ao much for all the work you put into your videos, it makes for such an entertaining watch. I discovered your channel way back in 2021 watched your videos consistantly for a while then grew out of it, youtube started recomending your videos to me again in late 2023 and boy am i glad it did, I must have spent close to a full day of just watching your videos they are so entertaining and its great to see the way your content has evolved and become even better quality in every episode. :) Thank you so much for all the work that you do, keep it up!
SHE’S BACK!
I'M BACK!
@@DisasterBreakdownYOU’RE BACK!
He's a dude. Hopefully he blocks me, I'm definitely blocking this channel (thank God I never clicked on any video that had been recommended to me until this one). To clarify - this isn't me trying to be mean or a bully, I feel the way I do because of how MH17 is presented in this video. Another video effectively bashing my home country, and I am thoroughly sick of those.
I thought it's a dude
@@SwapBlogRU You feel transphobic because of how your country is represented in a RUclips video? Did you feel this way before seeing the video?
Great video (with some intriguing lighting choices).
PS I know this is a really serious story, and it's not about what you're wearing, but I have to say I LOVE THAT FROCK!!!!! (Since we're all shouting with excitement in the comments, i thought I'd join in).
Love these breakdowns! Keep up the good work.
The graphics and animations in this video (particularly showing the plane flying over Ukraine as a partially cloudy day) are superb!
Hey Chloe, before I watch I assume this amazingly made video I wanted to say that I love your content, ever since you started appearing as yourself on the videos the quality skyrocketed and you're my favorite aviation youtuber not only because of the quality but also because I am trans just like you and I hope you continue making those videos for as long as you can. I'll always be excited for your new videos.
aww i appreciate that
I love that you go the extra mile and give us an in-depth view & history of the incident. Thank you Chloe this was very informative ❤
Thank you, Chloe. Great video. Very informative and delicately handled.
I was literally waiting for this. Thanks for getting this accident out again. People had almost forgotten about it
You're Welcome!
How many people did you ask to see if they remembered it?
Why is Russia in so much denial about it? It's not like they're shy of killing civilians, they've been very upfront about that
Why is it that the West, repeatedly caught in lies, not only denies, but creates new and new lies? Yes, the West has not been shy about killing civilians, they have openly stated so. But sometimes the west kills civilians in false flag operations to blame someone else.
It's Russia, what were you expecting?
Hey Chloe! Just here to say that this was an amazing breakdown of MH17, I was always kinda shocked on how a plane as big as a 777 can just get shotdown like this and someone later claim it was just an ukrainian military plane, now, this disaster didn't need to happened, 298 souls were lost because of this. In fact, shot-downs like these are the reason why El Al Airlines has defense systems on their aircraft to protect them from surface-to-air missiles, and to think something like this happened again as recently as 2020 with Ukraine International Airlines flight 752 and could probably happen again is just, to put it simply, baffling, I hope that we can all learn from these mistakes and make it so we don't have to learn it again the hard way and more lifes are lost.
On another note, your video skills have gotten wuite better! I started watching you on mid-2023 and I can tell a lot of time and effort has been put into making better videos and that is just amazing, also, maybe some day you could make a video talking about VASP 375? A Boeing 737-300 that got hijacked over Brasil and was to be thrown onto the Plateau Palace in Brasilia but instead landed Goiânia because of pilot Fernando Murilo de Lima e Silva's flying skills, it would be very cool becsuse there isn't really a proper video talking about the hijacking, BUT, there is a movie about it, I already watched it and I definetly recommend watching it, it's amazing.
Anyhow, that's pretty much all I have to say, have an amazing day and stay awesome!
BTW Lost Victims has made an ENTIRE VIDEO about it.
IT'S 55+ MINUTES OH MY GOD
"A.I is the future"
A.I: ads a wikipedia article about MH370 in a video about MH17.
Is that MSFS 2020 or xplane12? It looks different
MSFS This Time. First time on the channel actually!
Thank you for your content. You have the ability to break down the information and make it very easy to follow along. I also like how you appear on camera. It gives it such a personal touch.
As a Russian citizen, I deeply regret what has been and is going on at the Ukrainian borders. Without any means of control, all I can is to feel sorry for all the people involved in the war. There is next to no difference between the countries but the ones inflicted by the governments. I consider the war to be a civil one, since I have friends on the both sides of the border. I wish the sides come to a treaty rather sooner than later. I knew people who died there or got insured. Despite living a live relatively unchanged over the years of the war, I do feel for those who are closer, who are there. And trust me on that, I have never supported the war, I have never stood for it. I feel embarrassed that the Russian leaders started the war, I never understand the reasons for it.
Dutchman here. My dad taught me the biggest victims of war will always be civilians. I'm sorry for you losses, but I'm glad you're otherwise safe
О боже, поплачь еще немного. Может еще на коленки встанешь и начнешь извинятся перед белыми госпадами (западными собаками) за то что ты русский или тебе жаль "невинных жертв" войны? Видос же, очередной кусок плохо склеенной западной пропаганды, демонстрирующей лишь одну ангажированную версию Гаагского суда (который уже давным давно не является независимым судебным органом, а лишь политическим инструментом большого капитала. Случай с Нетаньяху тому подтверждение.). А все "доказательства" фоточки из интернета без каких либо геометок и "перехваты" переговоров, которые легче легкого подделать. Даже не упомянули про техническое испытание "Алмаз-Антей", которая производила ракеты Бук, доказывающее что такой тип боевых частей уже не использовался армией РФ, поскольку уже был устаревшим и был снят с вооружения, а вот как раз Украиной еще использовался и еще куча факторов и несостыковок, перечислять которые слижком долго. Кстати, как тебе "невинные жертвы войны", что вторглись в Курск и первым делом начали убивать мирное население и сносить их дома, нося каски с молниями СС и стреляя из РЗСО по детским садам? Кстати, еще одна классная новость, именно запад дал этим подобиям людей оружие, что-бы они убивали им нас. Мой тебе совет, одумайся и осознай происходящее, так называемый "цивилизованный мир" желает сделать с нами то-же что он делал веками до этого со всеми кто был слабее их: уничтожить нацию, поработить оставшихся, ограбить все ресурсы. И уже не раз западные псы приходили к нам с мечем, желая заполучить такую ценную русскую землю (Поляки, Немцы, Нацисты, Французы). Изучи подробнее историю и антиколлониальную борьбу разных стран с западными собаками. И прекрати их жалеть, потому-что к тебе, они точно не проявят жалость. P\S Автор канала так гордо размахивает украинским флажком, за этим довольно забавно наблюдать. А она в курсе что Украина это праворадикальная страна большинство населения которой, скажем так, не очень жалует людей как она?
When youtube are spreading the misinformation themselves with the incorrect article. 😭
I know you won’t see this but I’m also a Newcastle local! You’re one of if not THE channel that I watch 24/7, didn’t expect you to be from the toon haha! Sending love keep up the good work ❤
But I did see this comment :) always good to represent Newcastle here on RUclips
@@DisasterBreakdownomgomg hello! Thank you so much for replying it’s literally made my entire year ❤️😁 can’t wait for your next video!
I remember when locals had footage of the bodies scattered all over the area. There were bodies randomly in the corn fields and so on. Bodies still attached to their seats. Then later there were footage of the missile launcher moving locations to hide. It was bad
I literally had to look away from the plane animations before the missile hit. I had to hold back tears.
drama queen
@@martinward2159 Well im sorry I got emotional watching a horrible accident.
@@martinward2159 Dumb, immature comment.
Thank you for sharing this information. It got me thinking about how many times a passenger plane was incorrectly identified. If possible, and if you haven't already done so, it would be really interesting to hear your input to these 10 incidents. I know there's a long list of incidents to break down, and it takes time, so it's just an idea. Thank you for what you do.
1. Oct. 4, 2001: Siberia Airlines Flight 1812
2. July 3, 1988: Iran Air Flight 655
3. Sept. 1, 1983: Korean Air Lines Flight 007
4. June 27, 1980: Itavia Flight 870
5. Sept. 3, 1978: Air Rhodesia Flight 825
6. Feb. 12, 1979: Air Rhodesia Flight 827
7. Feb. 21, 1973: Libyan Arab Airlines Flight 114
8. July 27, 1955: El Al Flight 402
9. July 23, 1954: Cathay Pacific VR-HEU
10. Aug. 24, 1938: The Kweilin Incident