Ever notice how Lisa is always the Hero in all of her stories? She 'warns' all the other girls, they always suffer when they don't listen to her, acts like if they would listen to her she could have 'saved' them. She is delusional.
Yup, she's always given me dark and narcissistic vibes. It was confirmed for me that she was a nasty person when she went after Allison Harvard's mental health on IG. Despicable woman.
Lisa's good, omg!!!!! New found respect for the woman, wow!! And I'm not done with the video! Go Lisa, do your thing. Lisa tells the TRUTH and I love people like that, wow! Go Lisa!!!!
@@CarlosVardi basically the feeling she gave out is that Oliver used her trauma for views and likes and then, right on her face, started talking to Tyra and plan to work with her. Plenty of miscommunication and "feeling betrayed", but hey... What can you do?
@@vinnie906 nah. He summarized it pretty succinctly. Lisa is not the only 'guilty party'. She's doing entirely too much and is a mess but I see her point. Watch her interview with TashaK. Still the same chatty patty Lisa but Tasha just allowed her to speak and knew how to direct Lisa. I think Tasha has some media training. Oliver is not a journalist. He is just here for the tea and curious. So am I😃But I'm not gonna lie and sit here and say that everything Oliver does is great. Earlier in this series, he was the one asking for Tyra tea and giving side eyes, co signing on what other models have said about Tyra's issue with dark skinned models but then saying: "oh but I never worked with her. I never said I disliked Tyra? This a platform where you can talk about YOUR experience." And then you go on and answer Tyra's call and get taken in by her 'blackcent' because you tried smize cream. Yeah...I'm not hating on Oliver. he doesn't hide that he can love/hate Tyra with the girls, whenever it suits him. And I appreciate his candour when it comes to that. Oliver is loyal to letting people know, he is loyal to himself, first.
@@roddo1955 Lisa isn't any better. Opposed to Oliver who has no horse in this race, Lisa is the one who needs to be consistent. It's her situation. These days she's a mess. She doesn't know if she's for the girls or against them. She acts like she's speaking out and up for these girls. Yet trash talks them too. In the next comment, I'll post a link to US Magazine interview Lisa had after winning antm. These days she's all over videos and social media blasting ANTM crew and Tyra for what they did to Angelea. In this 2011 interview though, she's one nasty toxic piece of crap spitting down on Angelea and defending Antm...
She literally makes it so difficult as a viewer to empathize with her. She is so self absorbed and arrogant. Does she not see the pattern of her being the common denominator in all these "fights" she has with all the girls?
As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse I think lisa has a lot of hurt and anger in her soul from that time and then to have her character demonised on national television across the world not once but twice no wonder she has this attitude . My heart breaks for lisa I see a lot of her characteristics in lisa that I used to have and the only way to move forward is accepting that some people you don’t get on with ,some people you won’t get an apology from . I wish lisa health and happiness ❤️
@@crapolaist does that mean she can't or won't be able to do it lol remember she was against similar odds when it came to antm... And we're still talking about her so....
@@crapolaist like I said she's faced those kind of odds before lol who are you or anyone to say "well good luck with that" if everyone had that attitude, we'd all be idiots, going after nothing
Angelea had sexual abuse in her history and so she made a bad choice to do escorting - some people make a bad choice to do drugs and we applaud them when they go to rehab - what is the difference? Oh yeah, women can’t be forgiven for sexual acts - such bullsh*t!
@@vinnie906 lisa literally lies and numerous contestants have called her out in it. And regardless what a Allison FAN did to her is no right to say what she said about Allison. Lisa is a white feminist who cries wolf far to often but thinks it’s ok to attack others. It’s pathetic.
Here’s the Part 2 times stamps. I hope you enjoy them! 5:36 #TopModelRollCall Part 2 (starting from Dominique) -6:22 Why do you think Dominique was eliminated? -12:06 They knew that Laura was going to be eliminated + Shannon being set up -14:40 Allison + failing psychological evaluations + why she thinks Allison never won + going to a museum with her - 22:48 Angelea + her scandal + inappropriate comments+ why she thinks Angelea won and was disqualified afterwards 31:21 The original finale + she knew the finale would be reshot + reshooting the finale 38:42 Talking about Angelea in interviews after she won 41:15 Other contestants she thought should have been on all stars 43:46 Whose elimination shocked you the most? + she thought the show was cheesy 45:27 Bre’s attitude towards top model 46:37 Opinion on the Pot Ledom music videos + Lisa singing I Be Like Woah + Allison favoritism + half-baked sets + costumes 50:34 The cycle 17 and 18 correlation 51:35 Ken Mok talking to her and Allison before reshooting the finale and then threatening them 54:52 Mr Jay saying that production told the judges that Lisa was the winner 58:49 Why did she accept the title as the winner? 1:01:01 What is your favorite memory from all stars? 1:08:38 Did you read Model Land? + her thoughts on it 1:12:13 Lisa’s controversial video about Tyra 1:15:42 Joanie missing her opportunity to work with Beyoncé 1:18:00 Closing thoughts 1:20:42 If you were standing in front of Tyra Banks right now...
I mean the show is never shy of portraying Allison as the weird girl. I just have a problem on how Lisa is telling her perspective without even trying to understand her. BTW even though Allison told her about her psychological test it is not for her to announce in public, especially when she doesn't have the exact details. Mental health is a sensitive matter and can be damaging to people. A tea is a tea but I don't think that includes subjects like psycological condition, sexuality etc.
I know ppl like Lisa. I enjoy them, but I take what they say with a grain of salt. They almost have a twisted sense of reality and see things totally different than how most do. I know her experiences and feelings are valid, but she always ends up the victim. I want to like her. But I don't trust her 100%. Know what I mean?? But I'm still here for the entertainment. And for Oliver. 💕💕💕
I never liked her. And literally I said this a few days ago. She somehow takes responsibility for her actions yet comes off as a victim. Like which one is it ?
I've never liked Lisa either. Even when I watched her on cycle 5 as a teenager. Shes always been "off" to me. I never understood her popularity. She comes across extremely manipulative and like you said always paints herself as the victim.
It's classic NPD, my mother has it. You can tell by the way they word things. she just needs help but it's hard because they feel like they constantly aren't being heard.
Even if it was true about Allison (which she vehemently denied) then why shame someone for the state of their mental health? Or any aspect of their health? It’s so low to out someone’s private life and it feels mean-spirited to me
She made a little remark about Isis being mad at her and being 'BFF's with Allison', so it doesn't surprise me that she tried to made Allison look bad (but made herself look bad instead).
KInda funny LISA of all people would talk shit about somebody's mental health. Lisa, who has never been stable and still isn't... If Allison said it, she was probably joking (she has quirky sense of humor) and it flew right over Lisa's head.
I believe Lisa’s stories, but you can tell she definitely adds parts, takes parts away, and over exaggerates parts of them. The reason I say this is because she’s done two prior interviews last year retelling this same story, and the one thing I can say is that the main jist of her tellings have been consistent, but all three versions have been decorated very differently.
Whenever someone knows TOO many details, it’s usually embellished. Some of these stories, we might never know the truth, but there is a lot of fluff to them
When we were first introduced to Allison, she already let the world know that she has a fascination with blood and finds beauty in things that most people don't see. So her finding beauty in that museum isn't really a surprise imo...
eh. being obsessed with blood in an art form is one thing. taking photos with cute bunny emojis of a womans brain matter who was murdered in front of her children is a litttttttle different. lol and this is coming from someone who was utterly obsessed myself, with Allison.
Disclosing someone’s mental health isn’t tea....Lisa is completely full of herself. She has a right to explain HER story but not anyone else’s. I didn’t think it was possible but I dislike her even more now.
Lisa spills everyone's personal business and then wonders why people don't want to open up to her. It's one thing to spill the tea about production/how higher ups treated you, and another thing to announce things your fellow contestants confided in you to try to make them look bad. I never realized what a toxic personality she has until this interview.
Bc they where using someone who they knew was unstable for views! Allison has been had a huge following. She had a massive following Pre C12 on Tumbler ( I think her name was Creepy Chan) . So when she went on cycle 12 that made her following bigger. So when it come time for AS she was a no brainer. Tbh if you take your dislike for Lisa and put it aside she makes very valid points ! The message is just as valid even if you don’t like the Messenger
Also not sure why she’s acting like mental health is important and then revealing extremely private information about people (Allison’s psych, Angelea). It just kinda sounds like she wants to tear people down
How does everything turn out to be how traumatizing things are for HER?! How did Alison getting on despite her “not passing psych evaluations” traumatized her?! She is reaching sooo hard for things that aren’t there 🤦♀️
I think she was saying because she realized they were all just pawns, Allison getting in despite failing evaluations validated that for her, they used Allison for her fan base
People like Lisa will always “win” in their minds when they do these type of interviews because if it goes well, they’re validated, and if it doesn’t, they get to play the victim and talk about how “The haters don’t GeT iT” when it’s just like.... no, your personality sucks.
@@portlandjetaime that’s your interpretation of her personality but it doesn’t make it fact. I agree she is a very polarizing personality. But 99% of people have already made up their mind about her based on the version of her that has been spoon fed to you by ANTM. Yes she does do some things that I don’t always agree with. But I truly believe she does them with good intentions. Tbh if Allison had done and said the same things had Lisa y’all would be eating it TF up! But bc it’s Lisa y’all are quick to spin her words and her truth in a negative light! Don’t let your disdain for the messenger distract your from message
She’s not happy in her life. She may have a successful business but it’s clear her personal life is in shambles. Talking 💩 makes her feel better about herself.
Lisa seems to be full of resentment, isn’t honest, and is unwilling to take accountability for anything. Her talking about Allison’s mental health was just gross. And since Lisa seems to be all about expressing opinions/the truth: Lisa didn’t deserve to win all stars. She doesn’t strike me as a model at all.
Also: She didn't want anyone to get hurt in the editing, yet tried to push the angry Black woman stereotype on Bianca who was literally just asking Shannon a reasonable question? The hypocrisy.
I still can't get over the whole situation. Bianca politely asked about how much time each person gets on the phone, and Shannon started crying over a simple question out of nowhere.
I remember reading somewhere that other contestants there had said it wasn't exactly how they showed it on TV and that Bianca ripped up the paper that Shannon wrote for her with her phone time on it. I can't remember which girls witnessed it unfortunately and one of them could or could not have been Lisa LOL. I think one of them was Laura , Kayla or Allison. Anyways we can't forget that TV editing is a thing too guys even in instances like this. But im not saying Bianca is guilty either I just wanted to mention reading about it.
@@edo27 Thanks for the update. You're right about editing, and the clip on RUclips of the incident shows the choppy editing. Definitely some scenes were cut from the final product.
@@edo27 I will consider that. However, it seems like Bianca was very calm and you would think she would be visibly upset if she had just ripped up a sheet of paper. I could see Bianca doing that after Shannon started crying or Lisa jumped in, but since I wasn't there, I guess I truly don't know what happened. Maybe it was completely edited. It still seems weird that Lisa would jump in and try to make Bianca look horrible if she is all about making sure no one gets thrown under the editing bus. Wouldn't you try to de-escalate the situation if that was your actual concern?
Oh, Lisa. The inability to take any type of responsibility many years later, the unnecessary shade, revealing the business of random people and people who she had no beef with, getting into other people’s business and drama. Yet, she seems to think people don’t like her just because she’s “out-going” and “tells it like it is”.
She's so childish. If something I have learned from reading about psychology is that one becomes an adult when it stops blaming others for what's happened to them. She's still a kid, she keeps blaming everyone for what happened to her. And I'm not talking about the abuse, that's certainly something that was out of her control, I'm talking about her ANTM experiences. We are responsible for what we do, for what we don't do and for how we respond to what others do to us, she news to grow up
it's kind of refreshing to see that for once, somebody's character really showed through despite all the editing. i mean, she is exactly what i thought she was back then, lol
Also, Allison also lost her father before the show, so that is most likely why she never passed the psych test. Lisa is not a good person. She points out everyone's flaws except for her own!
@@branniechan4338 that’s honestly just what Lisa said until Alison speaks about her own psych eval (which she has every right to not disclosure ) then whatever Lisa is saying isn’t valid. We don’t know why she failed and if she did. And honestly it does not matter.
If she really felt guilt and wanted to have Angelea's back, she could have declined the prizes and fought for Angelea to keep the prize. Lisa just wants to be seen as the victim.
Would you do that if you got a modeling contract and a paid deal? I wouldn’t. There’s a lot to hate Lisa for but if I were in her position I would’ve probably done the same. We all need to eat.
@@soufbayshawty sure, but then I wouldn't pretend like I did everything I could to help Angelea and I wouldn't say shit like "I have Angelea's back 100%". If you gonna put yourself first that's understandable, but you don't get to have it both ways.
Watched both interviews of Lisa, and I just want to say 3 things: 1. I commend you Oliver for handling Lisa especially when she's going overboard. 2. It is just so ironic that Lisa tells us that she loves the girls but then went on to diss them. Also, if you notice, she waged war on almost everyone. Like I cannot believe how can you have an issue with Laura??? 3. I hope Lisa minds her own business. I love that she stands in solidarity with the minority, and against the trauma caused by realiTV, however, after watching her 2-part interviews-she does things for the wrong reasons which makes me wonder if she's only performative online and doesn't really genuinely care for people. I hope not. Mic drop 🎤
I've read your comment and I just want to say 3 things: 1. Oliver is just as OTT as Lisa 2. You know what's ironic? You say your a fan of the show and of Oliver's interviews and all you wanna do s 'wage war' on Lisa 3. Mind your own damn bidness !
...Allison has a dry sense of humor. I can totally see her saying she failed the psych test but it was sarcasm/a joke that Lisa didn’t pick up on. It’s also like, regardless of whatever the state of Allison’s mental health she has always been classy, put together, well spoken, and free of any scandals (that I know of). If that’s what makes up failing mental health tests, then we should all be so lucky to have whatever Alison has 🙃 But yeah, I think that’s what Lisa thought she heard but I’m not buying it as truth. I wish Lisa well. I root for the wounded birds but her next round of therapy needs to cover not deflecting so much and defending herself in such an over the top way. She has a good heart (I do believe that) but she’s so deep in defense mode that she doesn’t see how she’s coming across and further victimizes herself. I hope she heals more.
The thing about the evaluations....Mr and Ms Jay already explained that process. After the evals, each contestant is graded: red (don’t let them into the house), yellow (be cautious but cast if you want), green (they’re good to go). I feel Alison was probably graded yellow (not necessarily failing but production might want to reconsider). Obviously given that Alison is a huge fan favorite, and rightfully so, they let her into the All Star house to compete.
I feel that IF she was yellow, it would be due to her grief. She never came across as unstable. Look at how she handled being in situation with heavy drinking in Greece.... never a single breakdown in both seasons, no scandals after the shows... other contestants were speaking nicely of her. So she might have been slighly depressed due to grief on All Stars... but well, she never peed on diaper on national TV.
Now Lisa did not have to tell us about Allison’s mental health concerns. That was NOT her place. Her explaining that ANTM being a billion dollar brand over and over and over again was her trying to get us to see her point even though she didn’t have one. That was so trash and she knows it.
I didn't like how she went on about it and was like "No hate to Allison but I'm only exposing ANTM" Then girl why are you bringing up Allison's business?? It didn't make sense
Bruh stop being so soft. She was explaining her concerns about Allison and how antm wouldn’t even play by their own rules about the evaluations. She wasn’t being rude to Allison in any way she was just stating facts.
Lisa is full of it. She doesn’t want Tyra to step up to give the girls closure or ‘explain herself’. She just wants attention. I believed her at first but I don’t trust a word she says anymore
Even just from Allison's and Lisa's public personas, you can tell that this was likely a misunderstanding. Something to the effect of: Allison: *expresses that she is nervous she failed her psych exams* Lisa: *takes that and runs with it, shortening it to "she failed her psych exams!!1" despite no supporting testimony whatsoever*
Oliver referenced the main issues within the following video although there is even more to this story- ruclips.net/video/Dj0XgEC5s2I/видео.html But it’s a good starting point!
There's exposing ANTM for "breaking their own rules" but there's also telling very personal stories that aren't hers to tell. She could have gotten the message across by simply saying "one of the girls told me they failed their psyc exam" she didn't have to tell who it was, also going into detail about the museum..there was no need for all of that. Completely tactless. One of those people who have no idea how their behaviour affects others and can't deal with it when they are called out on it.
I already said this like 100 times, but didn’t like her back in 2005 and don’t like her now in 2021, and it’s crazy cuz she hasn’t changed. Still hella immature. She wants to be politically correct and while she can admit her wrongdoings she still comes off as playing victim. I can see why Bianca doesn’t like her.... like no reason .. she’s just one of those people..
I actually find people like her hilarious. They're so desperate to perform political correctness they actually end up being problematic in the process lol. Like it's really funny ha.
@@lgfuad4lyf I'm leftist AF and I 100% agree Every time Lisa mentions somebody's race or any social issue, I'm just sucking on my teeth like "GIRL NO STOP RED LIGHT" She's always juuuuust on the cusp of being your "wokeish" Grandpa who votes Democrat, but also drops racial epithets like nickels out a torn pocket
Love Allison but not for that I’m going to deny reality. Allison was mentally unstable and it’s completely normal, remember her dad died one year before going to cycle 17??, of course she was NOT okay, and that’s not offensive. Saying someone need help for their mentally issues is not offensive…. If you think mental health is offensive you are totally wrong and I feel sad for u
not sure where you saw i said it wasn't normal? i'm referring to lisa calling alison unstable when she herself seems unstable. pot calling the kettle black. @@simplyrachel_1
I have to say I liked Lisa until these two most recent interviews. If she says “I tried to tell her...” or “I tried to help her...” one more time! This whole interview annoyed me but at the same time I couldn’t stop watching. She comes very much as a know it all and not as open minded as she wants people to think she is. I’m basically here for Oliver.
After watching this video, I really wonder if Lisa was the one who threw Angelea under the bus and exposed that she was an escort to production just to get ahead 🧐
I think they most likely knew she had been an Escort,Ether before C14 or AS. They do insane background checks for shows like this. Especially when big contracts like CG are involved. It’s easy to believe that Lisa “ threw her under the bus. “. But I really believed they knew all along and used it for views. Remember what Mr.Jay Said, at this point they where doing anything for views and shock values. So is it really that wild for them to cast someone they knew they could easily disqualify. Especially when they never had a disqualification before!
@@isrealmontelongo8473 I too thought they already knew, but one of the contestants (can't remember who) said that someone outed her... I don't know what version is true tbh
Both could be true. I have literally zero insider knowledge; I'm just speculating. But it's easy to believe that Angelea shared a percentage of the reality to production -- the equivalent to what you would on a job application -- and was transparent enough that it was a "known secret." But then, Lisa could get spiteful after the finale and decide to alert production or even authorities with direct testimony (potential recorded evidence in the form of all the production recordings?) of Angelea escorting. Then it goes from "known secret" to "criminal investigation" and everyone runs away, but it sure explains why Lisa knew that a reshoot was coming. Again: Theory!
I’m not going to sugarcoat this: I used to really like Lisa. Apart of me still does, but I think she needs some serious help. The way she views people makes me very sad 😢 (this is coming from someone who has been through EXTREMELY traumatic things as well, along with chemical dependency & other mental illnesses).
I very much enjoyed her first Oliver chat. It was great to hear her reasoning behind some of the things that she did. However...the rest of all this mess is a lot. She seems....entitled or maybe self absorbed is a better term.
@@Anjeecm I think she’s hurting. Her husband has cancer, she’s taking care of a lot of things all by herself, her past trauma, and now I think she feels like she’s constantly being attacked online. I feel very very bad for her. I just hope she can rest up a little, take a step back, and see that she isn’t being attacked and also to stop and think before speaking. She’s lacking self awareness. I’m not judging her because I’ve been that person in the past. I’m really worried about her
@@Whatastorymark8 yes!!! A LOT of insecurity! You can tell she doesn’t feel good about herself. She’s attempting to make herself appear confident; which makes a lot of people misunderstand and see her as “cocky” or “narcissistic”. I don’t think it’s that at all. I think she’s just going THROUGH IT right now and needs to take a break from social media to gather her thoughts.
lisa didnt feel bad for angelea's situation because if she was she wouldve stood by angelea and not had taken anything that was given.. she doesnt care how she won just the fact it happened in her favor.. To mention someones alleged mental health on a public platform is so irresponsible and not everybody is as compassionate towards mental health as they should be and this can cause people to attack her and be cruel to her and that in itself can cause someones mental to decline. i feel like she shouldve been more tactful being that after the show she still carries pain due to how she was handled on the show.. Is it that her pain is the only one that matters to her? i get Narcissist vibes from lisa
I don’t buy that Alison didn’t pass her psych evals. Or that she would tell Lisa that. Also It is NOT cool that Lisa revealed anything about that. That is so awful. What a terrible person.
why she calling Allison stupid? omg I'm trying to like Lisa but her attitude really off and rub me also in the wrong way, like girl be matured and humble.
I don't buy Lisa's story about Allison's psych evaluations for a second. Also, how is that 'traumatizing'??!! She can take anything and make it all about herself.
@Sebastián Baeza I can actually believe this too. Lisa isnt shaming Allison, rather it can give red flags that they made an exception to such a serious rule by allowing a girl compete given the circumstances. Failing a psych evaluation doesnt mean you are dangerous, unhealthy or even unstable. At the time she was vulnerable given her recent loss of her father, so it's plausible psychologist may have deemed the show too stressful for her, or something along those lines. Allison is still an amazing model and person.
@@qorv4973 but thing is Lisa didn't go oh Allison was let into the house and put in a though envorment when she was going through such a hard time in her life no she basically bashed how Allison is a person and implying cause she interests that may be odd to some people she is unstable read some of her insta posts
Listen...ima need Allison or Angelea to do another chat explaining the original finale. Because this was not an explanation. She knew it was fake? Oh how convenient. And even if she “knew” that Angelea didn’t really win, how did she know it wasn’t Allison who was the real winner? Seems very narcissistic to me.
Imagine being with Lisa, 10 years ago, in the show telling her, as an example, that you are HIV positive, and ten years later she comes and says: _"Mr. Balzac told me he is HIV+ and I was like WTF?!"_ and then _"I love Mr. Balzac... but he told me that he is HIV+ and I have to tell it"_ ... like, she doesn't respect other people's intimacy/privacy and instead of spilling tea she is spilling intimate/private stuff, which is disgusting. XOXO
This is no hate towards Lisa but mama you have to live and let things go...like this isn't even spilling the tea ☕ in life when you forgive and forget and move on you become free and happy❤️ sending nothing but blessings ✨
Probably won’t ever happen. I think she would Of done one by now. My Theory is that when she sued Tyra and Bankable Productions for breach of contract , they settled out of court. They probably paid her off and made her sign an iron clad NDA.
I like Lisa, but I do think it is uncomfortable when she spills other peoples tea. I understand that this happened a long time ago, but it seems like Allison was talking about the psych eval in confidence. I do not feel like it was Lisa’s place to share that. Hopefully Allison is ok with it, but Lisa should have checked with her before talking about it or just not mentioned it at all. Seems like a very personal detail.
she seems VERY untrustworthy. And revealing any type of info about Allison's mental health records is violation of a HIPPA law. Don't she got enough CRAZY business of her OWN to tend to? ugh I can't STAND her , with her BLM WANNA BE Fight the Power weird Ass.
I think is funny how ENVIOUS of Allison is Lisa. You can tell. She hates everything about her lol. Of course they won’t put you on a swing with a whimsical set to say: I BE LIKE WHOA. (I can’t believe this woman thinks she knew they will reshoot the finale and that she had the idea of the Shannon video set. Her delusion is SOMETHING ELSE)
@@katbabydoll1321 Lisa just did an interview here on youtube with a sweet photographer named Jessica Kobeissi. She flat out says that she threatened production to make her the winner (before the songs were done) because she felt she deserved it. That she was a serious musician and wanted to make sure it was known that she did it all on her own without any help like the other models did. So it wouldn't affect her music career. But Allison was chosen anyway, which myself and many others felt was the right decision, that Allison's song was meaningful and her video was fitted to her perfectly, enhancing it and bringing out her ethereal beauty.
I feel like evidence has proven Allison did not fail her psych exams, yet Lisa keeps insisting on a false narrative. Maybe one day Allison will sue lying Lisa for defamation of character.
is she the person that told on angelea? she’s acting as if sëx workers are disgusting and she said she needed to get angelea help. and no this isn’t tea, lisa. this is you pulling BS up from 10 years ago and trying to become relevant again. seems like lisa has been hanging around mr. jay!!
I'm not going to say anything ugly or hateful about Lisa, and I don't necessarily believe she is lying or means any harm in the things that she says. I think this could all be true, and that she has good intentions. However, I find it inappropriate that she outed Allison as having not passed her psych evaluations, spoke on Alexandria's behalf in regards to her mental health, insinuated that Laura didn't support BLM just because she didn't speak publicly about it, and then blamed Oliver and his fan base after ANTM fans reacted negatively to it all.
Lisa is without a doubt the most qualified winner in ANTM history since she’s as PROBLEMATIC as the show. She’s not spilling the tea. She’s simply being an asshole. It’s a shame Tyra and her have beef. They could have been best friends cuz she’s just like Tyra: Everything is about HER.
It annoys me Lisa has spent so much time bashing ANTM/Tyra yet Lisa wasted no time bringing up her 'win' on All Stars when she was pitching to the Sharks on Shark Tank...
i didn't want to watch this cause I don't like her, but she's now threatening Oliver to put down her interviews, so now i have to see this before someone makes that happen 😪 every word she says is obnoxious 🥴
Does Lisa really believe that Allison’s psych evaluation would make big brands skeptical of hiring her? Allison one of the most successful contestants ever if not the most successful even before All Stars was thought of. Make it make sense girl make it make sense.
Oh my god. This should honestly be deleted. As Lisa just outted a s-worker this is insane...she has no business sharing other people's business. I know shes great for being messy but shes sharing people's personal information that could effect their wellbeing and safety. This is not cool or cute of funny at all. It's crazy she uses pc buzzwords and is incredibly problematic and harmful.
I never cared for Lisa. I wish her good health and all. But I am so disgusted with everything she said in this video. I hate that she's telling secrets and things that should have remained confidential and painting it in a way of her "trying to help them" or trying to "reach out." True or not, you should never share personal and confidential things about others without their consent. This video makes me so sad.
Lisa is one of those contestants that I always really wanted to like. Unfortunately the more I see her on shows like this... I realize that that is never going to happen. Good luck to her and her success I think she’s very smart business wise, but there was a fine line between being “real“ and downright petty and mean and she definitely crosses it.
seriously??? not that i wish her any harm but she didn't come off particualry nice on either of her antm cycles. i seem to be the only person who doesn't think angelea was robbed...though letting her win then taking it away is not nice
In my opinion the true enemy is obviously the ANTM production. The ones who, above all else, commited the cardinal sin of casting Alison in the first place. Because, due to her predetermined failure in her evaluations, apparently she was never meant to win any cycle at all. So what that tells me is that she was used for ratings since the very beginning, and that was a disservice to herself and everyone else that she replaced in her cycles. Lisa had an amazing redemption arc, but Alison's favoritism was so powerful that it destroyed not only hers but anyone else's chance at redemption. If Angelea kept her crown, all the hate Lisa got would be redirected towards her. If Alexandria won, she would have gotten all the heat instead. Same with Dominique. Sheena. Given the time ANTM aired, even Isis. People were more concerned with "Alison must win this time around", but the true tragedy was... She was never MEANT to win. And Lisa just so happened to be the victim who wore the crown shaped target. Alison was always meant to be successful, with or without ANTM. Production had no business abusing her popularity and ignoring her mental heath issues just for ratings. That's another problem that should be talked about. In my opinion.
I would like to see Dominique (Cycle 10). I hope Stacy-Ann did reach out to Dominique and convince her to do an interview with Oliver TwiXt, if Dominique is willingly comfortable to do it.
Lisa omg u did NOT know that you were going to be the televised winner... Stop giving yourself so much credit...u may have known something was fishy but girl....please PLUS if you care about Angelea why did u not object to the new ending
Id research her. Shes made it out of some horrific situations. She was a succesful model way before antm. Shes an inventor and a rapper and singer. Shes made costumes for other celebrities too.
@@soniquecat4745 Watch her product on shark tank. You seem like the type that cannot undertsand that people can grow and change for the better. Her stunt was how long ago I sure hope youve been perfect.
I think you asked an excellent question. These people abused her and were horrible. So why was it so important for her to win an award from the very people that caused her so much pain? She still needed validation from the very folks that damaged her. This is not so much of a judgment but I’m asking the question because I want to understand. I do think her purpose of telling the story about Allison was not to harm Allison but to make people aware of the unethical practices of the producers.
Exactly!!!! Lisa stfu u didnt know a damn thing! U were kept in the dark til they called u back with Allison. She is a walking contradiction I don't know about her but if there was a situation that was so stressful...giving you nervous breakdowns and what not...you can offer me a million dollars an hour and I will still decline.
Ever notice how Lisa is always the Hero in all of her stories? She 'warns' all the other girls, they always suffer when they don't listen to her, acts like if they would listen to her she could have 'saved' them. She is delusional.
Lisa should have won Rock of Love! Not top model All-stars
She was right about Coryn and Bianca tho. Should've listened.
Yup, she's always given me dark and narcissistic vibes. It was confirmed for me that she was a nasty person when she went after Allison Harvard's mental health on IG. Despicable woman.
Lisa's good, omg!!!!! New found respect for the woman, wow!! And I'm not done with the video! Go Lisa, do your thing. Lisa tells the TRUTH and I love people like that, wow! Go Lisa!!!!
who’s here after lisa wants oliver to take this down 😂😂🤦🏽♀️ so full of herself
@@CarlosVardi check oliver’s community tab on youtube, lisa is mad that oliver doesn’t hate tyra 😭
@@CarlosVardi basically the feeling she gave out is that Oliver used her trauma for views and likes and then, right on her face, started talking to Tyra and plan to work with her. Plenty of miscommunication and "feeling betrayed", but hey... What can you do?
@@MegaTamia1000 there's more to that, but you're just taking one side. Not surprising, of course, but still... Bruh.
@@vinnie906 nah. He summarized it pretty succinctly. Lisa is not the only 'guilty party'. She's doing entirely too much and is a mess but I see her point. Watch her interview with TashaK. Still the same chatty patty Lisa but Tasha just allowed her to speak and knew how to direct Lisa. I think Tasha has some media training. Oliver is not a journalist. He is just here for the tea and curious. So am I😃But I'm not gonna lie and sit here and say that everything Oliver does is great. Earlier in this series, he was the one asking for Tyra tea and giving side eyes, co signing on what other models have said about Tyra's issue with dark skinned models but then saying: "oh but I never worked with her. I never said I disliked Tyra? This a platform where you can talk about YOUR experience." And then you go on and answer Tyra's call and get taken in by her 'blackcent' because you tried smize cream. Yeah...I'm not hating on Oliver. he doesn't hide that he can love/hate Tyra with the girls, whenever it suits him. And I appreciate his candour when it comes to that. Oliver is loyal to letting people know, he is loyal to himself, first.
@@roddo1955 Lisa isn't any better. Opposed to Oliver who has no horse in this race, Lisa is the one who needs to be consistent. It's her situation. These days she's a mess. She doesn't know if she's for the girls or against them. She acts like she's speaking out and up for these girls. Yet trash talks them too. In the next comment, I'll post a link to US Magazine interview Lisa had after winning antm. These days she's all over videos and social media blasting ANTM crew and Tyra for what they did to Angelea. In this 2011 interview though, she's one nasty toxic piece of crap spitting down on Angelea and defending Antm...
She literally makes it so difficult as a viewer to empathize with her. She is so self absorbed and arrogant. Does she not see the pattern of her being the common denominator in all these "fights" she has with all the girls?
Just because she's the common denominator it doesn't mean the other girls aren't stupid and whack.
Lisa saying Dominique talked a lot😂😂😂
And i wish lisa would stop talking.
@@InternetWAPx you and Coryn!! 😂😂
As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse I think lisa has a lot of hurt and anger in her soul from that time and then to have her character demonised on national television across the world not once but twice no wonder she has this attitude . My heart breaks for lisa I see a lot of her characteristics in lisa that I used to have and the only way to move forward is accepting that some people you don’t get on with ,some people you won’t get an apology from . I wish lisa health and happiness ❤️
Angelea is becoming a Journalist. 🥰
I hope that she becomes successful. She deserves it!
She looks like one!!!
@@freddiegrace3770 She will. She intelligent and driven.
@@crapolaist does that mean she can't or won't be able to do it lol remember she was against similar odds when it came to antm... And we're still talking about her so....
@@crapolaist like I said she's faced those kind of odds before lol who are you or anyone to say "well good luck with that" if everyone had that attitude, we'd all be idiots, going after nothing
An Angelea interview is now looking way more appealing than ever. Please get Angelea!
@lu k awww why not?
I think Angelea settled out of court and got paid a couple of million dollars to legally keep quiet about the Top Model experience
Angelea had sexual abuse in her history and so she made a bad choice to do escorting - some people make a bad choice to do drugs and we applaud them when they go to rehab - what is the difference? Oh yeah, women can’t be forgiven for sexual acts - such bullsh*t!
She has some bitterness towards Alison cause she’s a fan favorite and close to Isis.
Or because an Alison fan physically assaulted her and caused her to need surgery? How about doing research?
@@vinnie906 lisa literally lies and numerous contestants have called her out in it. And regardless what a Allison FAN did to her is no right to say what she said about Allison. Lisa is a white feminist who cries wolf far to often but thinks it’s ok to attack others. It’s pathetic.
Here’s the Part 2 times stamps. I hope you enjoy them!
5:36 #TopModelRollCall Part 2 (starting from Dominique)
-6:22 Why do you think Dominique was eliminated?
-12:06 They knew that Laura was going to be eliminated + Shannon being set up
-14:40 Allison + failing psychological evaluations + why she thinks Allison never won + going to a museum with her
- 22:48 Angelea + her scandal + inappropriate comments+ why she thinks Angelea won and was disqualified afterwards
31:21 The original finale + she knew the finale would be reshot + reshooting the finale
38:42 Talking about Angelea in interviews after she won
41:15 Other contestants she thought should have been on all stars
43:46 Whose elimination shocked you the most? + she thought the show was cheesy
45:27 Bre’s attitude towards top model
46:37 Opinion on the Pot Ledom music videos + Lisa singing I Be Like Woah + Allison favoritism + half-baked sets + costumes
50:34 The cycle 17 and 18 correlation
51:35 Ken Mok talking to her and Allison before reshooting the finale and then threatening them
54:52 Mr Jay saying that production told the judges that Lisa was the winner
58:49 Why did she accept the title as the winner?
1:01:01 What is your favorite memory from all stars?
1:08:38 Did you read Model Land? + her thoughts on it
1:12:13 Lisa’s controversial video about Tyra
1:15:42 Joanie missing her opportunity to work with Beyoncé
1:18:00 Closing thoughts
1:20:42 If you were standing in front of Tyra Banks right now...
You are Everything!!! Thank u so much!!!
You do gods work every time thank you 💕
Girl we be waiting for you lol
We don’t deserve ppl like you, but thank you
Thank you very much
I mean the show is never shy of portraying Allison as the weird girl. I just have a problem on how Lisa is telling her perspective without even trying to understand her. BTW even though Allison told her about her psychological test it is not for her to announce in public, especially when she doesn't have the exact details. Mental health is a sensitive matter and can be damaging to people. A tea is a tea but I don't think that includes subjects like psycological condition, sexuality etc.
I know ppl like Lisa. I enjoy them, but I take what they say with a grain of salt. They almost have a twisted sense of reality and see things totally different than how most do. I know her experiences and feelings are valid, but she always ends up the victim. I want to like her. But I don't trust her 100%. Know what I mean?? But I'm still here for the entertainment. And for Oliver. 💕💕💕
You said that perfectly I 💯 Agree !
I never liked her. And literally I said this a few days ago. She somehow takes responsibility for her actions yet comes off as a victim. Like which one is it ?
I've never liked Lisa either. Even when I watched her on cycle 5 as a teenager. Shes always been "off" to me. I never understood her popularity. She comes across extremely manipulative and like you said always paints herself as the victim.
@@missyd1215 I was 12 when cycle 5 came on and I still didn’t like her then.
It's classic NPD, my mother has it. You can tell by the way they word things. she just needs help but it's hard because they feel like they constantly aren't being heard.
Even if it was true about Allison (which she vehemently denied) then why shame someone for the state of their mental health? Or any aspect of their health? It’s so low to out someone’s private life and it feels mean-spirited to me
I can’t believe she revealed this. 😳
She made a little remark about Isis being mad at her and being 'BFF's with Allison', so it doesn't surprise me that she tried to made Allison look bad (but made herself look bad instead).
Funny because Lisa was the one who peed in a diaper in front of everyone Lol
KInda funny LISA of all people would talk shit about somebody's mental health. Lisa, who has never been stable and still isn't... If Allison said it, she was probably joking (she has quirky sense of humor) and it flew right over Lisa's head.
Wait Allison response to this? Where?
I believe Lisa’s stories, but you can tell she definitely adds parts, takes parts away, and over exaggerates parts of them. The reason I say this is because she’s done two prior interviews last year retelling this same story, and the one thing I can say is that the main jist of her tellings have been consistent, but all three versions have been decorated very differently.
Whenever someone knows TOO many details, it’s usually embellished. Some of these stories, we might never know the truth, but there is a lot of fluff to them
Mr Hill u took the words Right outta my mouth!
When we were first introduced to Allison, she already let the world know that she has a fascination with blood and finds beauty in things that most people don't see. So her finding beauty in that museum isn't really a surprise imo...
Yeah but remember Lisa said she never watched Top Model, so she basically didn’t know any of these girls.
Im surprised they didn’t kick her out of that museum , they’re VERY strict about photos
It's still inappropriate
eh. being obsessed with blood in an art form is one thing. taking photos with cute bunny emojis of a womans brain matter who was murdered in front of her children is a litttttttle different. lol and this is coming from someone who was utterly obsessed myself, with Allison.
@@laceylynn1561 honesty same like i love allison but gurl..
We need Allison to give her side of the story
hi youre handsome
@@ccyan6748Bro? XD
@@simplyrachel_1 whahahaha
Disclosing someone’s mental health isn’t tea....Lisa is completely full of herself. She has a right to explain HER story but not anyone else’s. I didn’t think it was possible but I dislike her even more now.
Lisa spills everyone's personal business and then wonders why people don't want to open up to her. It's one thing to spill the tea about production/how higher ups treated you, and another thing to announce things your fellow contestants confided in you to try to make them look bad. I never realized what a toxic personality she has until this interview.
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Same. It’s really disappointing 😕 i do hope that she gets help, though.
@@jackichemslave Really do.
I literally just posted this! Spilling tea is one thing but plain talking shit is another.
THIS!
Not sure how Allison’s psych test traumatized her
Right?? Lisa is just...🙄🙄
Bc they where using someone who they knew was unstable for views! Allison has been had a huge following. She had a massive following Pre C12 on Tumbler ( I think her name was Creepy Chan) . So when she went on cycle 12 that made her following bigger. So when it come time for AS she was a no brainer.
Tbh if you take your dislike for Lisa and put it aside she makes very valid points ! The message is just as valid even if you don’t like the Messenger
@@陳卓威-o2b no we don't.
because of how they treated her
Also not sure why she’s acting like mental health is important and then revealing extremely private information about people (Allison’s psych, Angelea). It just kinda sounds like she wants to tear people down
How does everything turn out to be how traumatizing things are for HER?!
How did Alison getting on despite her “not passing psych evaluations” traumatized her?!
She is reaching sooo hard for things that aren’t there 🤦♀️
I think she was saying because she realized they were all just pawns, Allison getting in despite failing evaluations validated that for her, they used Allison for her fan base
@@karma-616 exactly
Their is no reason why She didn’t win. It had to be something like that.
@@karma-616 ok that makes sense. Maybe she’s so passionate about what she’s trying to say that it’s just not coming out right?
People like Lisa will always “win” in their minds when they do these type of interviews because if it goes well, they’re validated, and if it doesn’t, they get to play the victim and talk about how “The haters don’t GeT iT” when it’s just like.... no, your personality sucks.
@@portlandjetaime that’s your interpretation of her personality but it doesn’t make it fact. I agree she is a very polarizing personality. But 99% of people have already made up their mind about her based on the version of her that has been spoon fed to you by ANTM. Yes she does do some things that I don’t always agree with. But I truly believe she does them with good intentions. Tbh if Allison had done and said the same things had Lisa y’all would be eating it TF up! But bc it’s Lisa y’all are quick to spin her words and her truth in a negative light! Don’t let your disdain for the messenger distract your from message
👀 Lisa be saying some out of pocket shit. I like Lisa, but at the same time she minds everyone else’s business.
Right! Listen it’s one thing to spill tea, it’s another to talk shit.
She’s not happy in her life. She may have a successful business but it’s clear her personal life is in shambles. Talking 💩 makes her feel better about herself.
And that’s why I didn’t like her 😬😬 I get she might be going through stuff though
literally. she's always in the business that don't pay her
Thats why Coryn dragged the floor with her on cycle 5, for minding others peoples bussiness
This interview was extremely disappointing. I’ve never liked her and this cemented that feeling fully. No wonder no one wants to be around her.
She is unattractive inside and out.
Lisa seems to be full of resentment, isn’t honest, and is unwilling to take accountability for anything. Her talking about Allison’s mental health was just gross. And since Lisa seems to be all about expressing opinions/the truth: Lisa didn’t deserve to win all stars. She doesn’t strike me as a model at all.
PERIODT
@O H Exactly
Disagree. Shes extremely talented intelligent and beautiful.
Also: She didn't want anyone to get hurt in the editing, yet tried to push the angry Black woman stereotype on Bianca who was literally just asking Shannon a reasonable question?
The hypocrisy.
I still can't get over the whole situation. Bianca politely asked about how much time each person gets on the phone, and Shannon started crying over a simple question out of nowhere.
I remember reading somewhere that other contestants there had said it wasn't exactly how they showed it on TV and that Bianca ripped up the paper that Shannon wrote for her with her phone time on it. I can't remember which girls witnessed it unfortunately and one of them could or could not have been Lisa LOL. I think one of them was Laura , Kayla or Allison. Anyways we can't forget that TV editing is a thing too guys even in instances like this. But im not saying Bianca is guilty either I just wanted to mention reading about it.
@@edo27 Thanks for the update. You're right about editing, and the clip on RUclips of the incident shows the choppy editing. Definitely some scenes were cut from the final product.
@@edo27 I will consider that. However, it seems like Bianca was very calm and you would think she would be visibly upset if she had just ripped up a sheet of paper.
I could see Bianca doing that after Shannon started crying or Lisa jumped in, but since I wasn't there, I guess I truly don't know what happened. Maybe it was completely edited. It still seems weird that Lisa would jump in and try to make Bianca look horrible if she is all about making sure no one gets thrown under the editing bus. Wouldn't you try to de-escalate the situation if that was your actual concern?
Exactly! Typical white liberal using BLM
Oh, Lisa. The inability to take any type of responsibility many years later, the unnecessary shade, revealing the business of random people and people who she had no beef with, getting into other people’s business and drama. Yet, she seems to think people don’t like her just because she’s “out-going” and “tells it like it is”.
She's so childish. If something I have learned from reading about psychology is that one becomes an adult when it stops blaming others for what's happened to them. She's still a kid, she keeps blaming everyone for what happened to her. And I'm not talking about the abuse, that's certainly something that was out of her control, I'm talking about her ANTM experiences.
We are responsible for what we do, for what we don't do and for how we respond to what others do to us, she news to grow up
Yeah, Lisa is a total narcissist honestly. She can’t get over the fact people just didn’t like her on the show.
it's kind of refreshing to see that for once, somebody's character really showed through despite all the editing. i mean, she is exactly what i thought she was back then, lol
@@stuporspoon Lmao you do have a point tbh
Its funny and ironic to see Lisa revealing Allison failing Psych Exams when Lisa was also the same girl who peed in a diaper. Lol
Also, Allison also lost her father before the show, so that is most likely why she never passed the psych test. Lisa is not a good person. She points out everyone's flaws except for her own!
The point is that the show let Alison knowing she had failed. The rules should apply to everybody.
@@branniechan4338 But I think she crossed the line talking about someone's mental health.
I'd believe Allison over Lisa.
@@branniechan4338 that’s honestly just what Lisa said until Alison speaks about her own psych eval (which she has every right to not disclosure ) then whatever Lisa is saying isn’t valid. We don’t know why she failed and if she did. And honestly it does not matter.
If she really felt guilt and wanted to have Angelea's back, she could have declined the prizes and fought for Angelea to keep the prize. Lisa just wants to be seen as the victim.
Would you do that if you got a modeling contract and a paid deal? I wouldn’t. There’s a lot to hate Lisa for but if I were in her position I would’ve probably done the same. We all need to eat.
@@soufbayshawty sure, but then I wouldn't pretend like I did everything I could to help Angelea and I wouldn't say shit like "I have Angelea's back 100%". If you gonna put yourself first that's understandable, but you don't get to have it both ways.
@@jonmoree116 I don’t think production would’ve cared if she said it was wrong either way LMFAO
@Sebastián Baeza I watched it and I don't believe her 🤷♂️
@Sebastián Baeza I do what I want 😎
Watched both interviews of Lisa, and I just want to say 3 things:
1. I commend you Oliver for handling Lisa especially when she's going overboard.
2. It is just so ironic that Lisa tells us that she loves the girls but then went on to diss them. Also, if you notice, she waged war on almost everyone. Like I cannot believe how can you have an issue with Laura???
3. I hope Lisa minds her own business. I love that she stands in solidarity with the minority, and against the trauma caused by realiTV, however, after watching her 2-part interviews-she does things for the wrong reasons which makes me wonder if she's only performative online and doesn't really genuinely care for people. I hope not.
Mic drop 🎤
I've read your comment and I just want to say 3 things:
1. Oliver is just as OTT as Lisa
2. You know what's ironic? You say your a fan of the show and of Oliver's interviews and all you wanna do s 'wage war' on Lisa
3. Mind your own damn bidness !
@@CCTrubiak wat
@@jeremyjaysonnool4329 that person who commented made no sense. I couldn't agree more
@@jeremyjaysonnool4329 that person who commented made no sense. I couldn't agree more
@@CCTrubiak How much did Lisa pay you?
...Allison has a dry sense of humor. I can totally see her saying she failed the psych test but it was sarcasm/a joke that Lisa didn’t pick up on. It’s also like, regardless of whatever the state of Allison’s mental health she has always been classy, put together, well spoken, and free of any scandals (that I know of). If that’s what makes up failing mental health tests, then we should all be so lucky to have whatever Alison has 🙃
But yeah, I think that’s what Lisa thought she heard but I’m not buying it as truth. I wish Lisa well. I root for the wounded birds but her next round of therapy needs to cover not deflecting so much and defending herself in such an over the top way. She has a good heart (I do believe that) but she’s so deep in defense mode that she doesn’t see how she’s coming across and further victimizes herself. I hope she heals more.
@@marteenee88 agreed!!
The thing about the evaluations....Mr and Ms Jay already explained that process. After the evals, each contestant is graded: red (don’t let them into the house), yellow (be cautious but cast if you want), green (they’re good to go). I feel Alison was probably graded yellow (not necessarily failing but production might want to reconsider). Obviously given that Alison is a huge fan favorite, and rightfully so, they let her into the All Star house to compete.
I feel that IF she was yellow, it would be due to her grief. She never came across as unstable. Look at how she handled being in situation with heavy drinking in Greece.... never a single breakdown in both seasons, no scandals after the shows... other contestants were speaking nicely of her. So she might have been slighly depressed due to grief on All Stars... but well, she never peed on diaper on national TV.
@@soniquecat4745 LMAOOOO that final bit of your comment SENT ME 😂😂😂
And whats wild is the first time Lisa was on the show she got so drunk she was making friends with a freaking bush and she claims Allison is unstable.
Do you really believe them?… oh god
Now Lisa did not have to tell us about Allison’s mental health concerns. That was NOT her place. Her explaining that ANTM being a billion dollar brand over and over and over again was her trying to get us to see her point even though she didn’t have one. That was so trash and she knows it.
I didn't like how she went on about it and was like "No hate to Allison but I'm only exposing ANTM" Then girl why are you bringing up Allison's business?? It didn't make sense
That was absolutely shameful and hypocritical.
Well people do talk about Lisa's alcoholism etc so really nobody should talk about anyone.
@@mpacino1224 yeah i agree that’s wrong but doesn’t excuse her tbh. Nobody should talk about those things like that when it isn’t your business.
Bruh stop being so soft. She was explaining her concerns about Allison and how antm wouldn’t even play by their own rules about the evaluations. She wasn’t being rude to Allison in any way she was just stating facts.
Lisa is full of it. She doesn’t want Tyra to step up to give the girls closure or ‘explain herself’. She just wants attention. I believed her at first but I don’t trust a word she says anymore
I personally don't know why she went back because she dogged antm after cycle 5.
Lisa speaking about Allison is really uncomfortable for me- also she won, why is she so fucking acerbic?? Messy boots
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Its interesting to me how Isis and Allison are besties...and with Lisa comments about Alison you can tell she’s so butthurt about that 😂
Even just from Allison's and Lisa's public personas, you can tell that this was likely a misunderstanding. Something to the effect of:
Allison: *expresses that she is nervous she failed her psych exams*
Lisa: *takes that and runs with it, shortening it to "she failed her psych exams!!1" despite no supporting testimony whatsoever*
I think is wrong for lisa to expose those private issues about mental health and confessions of other people
I agree it was wrong for her to name the individual!
It’s crazy rewatching this after how Lisa turned against Oliver in real life
Oh damn I just started watching this channel, did she!?
@@FabiolaRVela yeah he made a video on this channel addressing it you should search for it!
Oliver referenced the main issues within the following video although there is even more to this story- ruclips.net/video/Dj0XgEC5s2I/видео.html
But it’s a good starting point!
Lmao "were you guys good friends?" 😂 caught that shade Oliver 😎
lisa might of picked some of Tyra's "this reminds me of my life..." syndrome
YESSS....
Might have*
....when I went to Harvard'
Narcissism. Lol.
There's exposing ANTM for "breaking their own rules" but there's also telling very personal stories that aren't hers to tell. She could have gotten the message across by simply saying "one of the girls told me they failed their psyc exam" she didn't have to tell who it was, also going into detail about the museum..there was no need for all of that. Completely tactless. One of those people who have no idea how their behaviour affects others and can't deal with it when they are called out on it.
I already said this like 100 times, but didn’t like her back in 2005 and don’t like her now in 2021, and it’s crazy cuz she hasn’t changed. Still hella immature. She wants to be politically correct and while she can admit her wrongdoings she still comes off as playing victim. I can see why Bianca doesn’t like her.... like no reason .. she’s just one of those people..
I actually find people like her hilarious. They're so desperate to perform political correctness they actually end up being problematic in the process lol. Like it's really funny ha.
@@lgfuad4lyf I'm leftist AF and I 100% agree
Every time Lisa mentions somebody's race or any social issue, I'm just sucking on my teeth like "GIRL NO STOP RED LIGHT"
She's always juuuuust on the cusp of being your "wokeish" Grandpa who votes Democrat, but also drops racial epithets like nickels out a torn pocket
Good gosh lol so much hate
Strange... because.. Lisa seems a lot more unstable than Allison does lol.. Just sayin'.
Love Allison but not for that I’m going to deny reality.
Allison was mentally unstable and it’s completely normal, remember her dad died one year before going to cycle 17??, of course she was NOT okay, and that’s not offensive.
Saying someone need help for their mentally issues is not offensive…. If you think mental health is offensive you are totally wrong and I feel sad for u
not sure where you saw i said it wasn't normal? i'm referring to lisa calling alison unstable when she herself seems unstable. pot calling the kettle black. @@simplyrachel_1
Call the POLICE 🚨
😂
Call the sheriff 💀
It's a good thing we love Oliver, cause the comments would be even worse....I know I'm holding back that for sure.
I have to say I liked Lisa until these two most recent interviews. If she says “I tried to tell her...” or “I tried to help her...” one more time! This whole interview annoyed me but at the same time I couldn’t stop watching. She comes very much as a know it all and not as open minded as she wants people to think she is. I’m basically here for Oliver.
She’s been that way since she was on cycle 5
Yall are way to hard on lisa. Im living for lisa
After watching this video, I really wonder if Lisa was the one who threw Angelea under the bus and exposed that she was an escort to production just to get ahead 🧐
No way. Production knows everything that's said in the house because of the mic packs. Angelea herself said that production was already aware of it
I think they most likely knew she had been an Escort,Ether before C14 or AS. They do insane background checks for shows like this. Especially when big contracts like CG are involved. It’s easy to believe that Lisa “ threw her under the bus. “. But I really believed they knew all along and used it for views. Remember what Mr.Jay Said, at this point they where doing anything for views and shock values. So is it really that wild for them to cast someone they knew they could easily disqualify. Especially when they never had a disqualification before!
@@isrealmontelongo8473 I too thought they already knew, but one of the contestants (can't remember who) said that someone outed her... I don't know what version is true tbh
Please pipe that down.
Both could be true. I have literally zero insider knowledge; I'm just speculating. But it's easy to believe that Angelea shared a percentage of the reality to production -- the equivalent to what you would on a job application -- and was transparent enough that it was a "known secret."
But then, Lisa could get spiteful after the finale and decide to alert production or even authorities with direct testimony (potential recorded evidence in the form of all the production recordings?) of Angelea escorting. Then it goes from "known secret" to "criminal investigation" and everyone runs away, but it sure explains why Lisa knew that a reshoot was coming.
Again: Theory!
I’m not going to sugarcoat this:
I used to really like Lisa. Apart of me still does, but I think she needs some serious help. The way she views people makes me very sad 😢 (this is coming from someone who has been through EXTREMELY traumatic things as well, along with chemical dependency & other mental illnesses).
I very much enjoyed her first Oliver chat. It was great to hear her reasoning behind some of the things that she did. However...the rest of all this mess is a lot. She seems....entitled or maybe self absorbed is a better term.
Exactly- hear a lot of resentment and insecurity when she talks. That isn’t good for her.
@@Anjeecm I think she’s hurting. Her husband has cancer, she’s taking care of a lot of things all by herself, her past trauma, and now I think she feels like she’s constantly being attacked online. I feel very very bad for her. I just hope she can rest up a little, take a step back, and see that she isn’t being attacked and also to stop and think before speaking. She’s lacking self awareness. I’m not judging her because I’ve been that person in the past. I’m really worried about her
@@Whatastorymark8 yes!!! A LOT of insecurity! You can tell she doesn’t feel good about herself. She’s attempting to make herself appear confident; which makes a lot of people misunderstand and see her as “cocky” or “narcissistic”. I don’t think it’s that at all. I think she’s just going THROUGH IT right now and needs to take a break from social media to gather her thoughts.
@O H 100% agree. My first thought was BPD.
We need a Angelea Interview the TRUE ALL STAR winner ⭐️
@lu k I’m sure her NDA was over like years ago
Period
"Everyone just needs to calm down. CALM DOWN! Take a break.... eat a cookie!"
With a nappy wig and smired lipstick 💄🤭🤣👋🏼
lisa didnt feel bad for angelea's situation because if she was she wouldve stood by angelea and not had taken anything that was given.. she doesnt care how she won just the fact it happened in her favor.. To mention someones alleged mental health on a public platform is so irresponsible and not everybody is as compassionate towards mental health as they should be and this can cause people to attack her and be cruel to her and that in itself can cause someones mental to decline. i feel like she shouldve been more tactful being that after the show she still carries pain due to how she was handled on the show.. Is it that her pain is the only one that matters to her? i get Narcissist vibes from lisa
Exactly!!!
I don’t buy that Alison didn’t pass her psych evals. Or that she would tell Lisa that. Also It is NOT cool that Lisa revealed anything about that. That is so awful. What a terrible person.
Nope. Lisa is the bomb and isnt sharing any diagnosis. This woman has more talent in her pinky finger than most have in her body.
@@helixmoore7636 then most have in her body? 😂
The justice we are all waiting for angelea❤️🙏🏻
I want Angelea to be the final interview!! It would be the biggest and best one if Angelea is able to speak her truth freely!
Her and Jade
They did that young lady wrong. I hope she wins her lawsuit.
Let’s not forget Tiffany! I’d kind of want to hear from Elyse too 👀 she was iconic
@@Kyy625 yes, I remember Elyse. I believe she was the atheist from cycle 2?
Bianca is right about Lisa
why she calling Allison stupid? omg I'm trying to like Lisa but her attitude really off and rub me also in the wrong way, like girl be matured and humble.
I don't buy Lisa's story about Allison's psych evaluations for a second. Also, how is that 'traumatizing'??!! She can take anything and make it all about herself.
Yep ! Distasteful
@Sebastián Baeza I can actually believe this too. Lisa isnt shaming Allison, rather it can give red flags that they made an exception to such a serious rule by allowing a girl compete given the circumstances.
Failing a psych evaluation doesnt mean you are dangerous, unhealthy or even unstable. At the time she was vulnerable given her recent loss of her father, so it's plausible psychologist may have deemed the show too stressful for her, or something along those lines. Allison is still an amazing model and person.
I believe lisa
@@qorv4973 but thing is Lisa didn't go oh Allison was let into the house and put in a though envorment when she was going through such a hard time in her life no she basically bashed how Allison is a person and implying cause she interests that may be odd to some people she is unstable read some of her insta posts
@@qorv4973 she kinda is shaming her tho? Like what’s the point of talking about someone else’s mental health state? It’s not her place.
The audacity of Lisa thinking that asking Angelea to open for her on her failed tour that nobody went to is an opportunity.
Tiffany going on all-stars, Tyra apologizing to her, and then Tiffany winning >>>>>
That’s the all stars we all needed
Listen...ima need Allison or Angelea to do another chat explaining the original finale. Because this was not an explanation. She knew it was fake? Oh how convenient. And even if she “knew” that Angelea didn’t really win, how did she know it wasn’t Allison who was the real winner? Seems very narcissistic to me.
Imagine being with Lisa, 10 years ago, in the show telling her, as an example, that you are HIV positive, and ten years later she comes and says: _"Mr. Balzac told me he is HIV+ and I was like WTF?!"_ and then _"I love Mr. Balzac... but he told me that he is HIV+ and I have to tell it"_ ... like, she doesn't respect other people's intimacy/privacy and instead of spilling tea she is spilling intimate/private stuff, which is disgusting. XOXO
This is no hate towards Lisa but mama you have to live and let things go...like this isn't even spilling the tea ☕ in life when you forgive and forget and move on you become free and happy❤️ sending nothing but blessings ✨
Do a live chat with Angelea Preston and I’m DONE !!!
Probably won’t ever happen. I think she would
Of done one by now. My Theory is that when she sued Tyra and Bankable Productions for breach of contract , they settled out of court. They probably paid her off and made her sign an iron clad NDA.
@@marteenee88 she did
I like Lisa, but I do think it is uncomfortable when she spills other peoples tea. I understand that this happened a long time ago, but it seems like Allison was talking about the psych eval in confidence. I do not feel like it was Lisa’s place to share that. Hopefully Allison is ok with it, but Lisa should have checked with her before talking about it or just not mentioned it at all. Seems like a very personal detail.
Lisa has a lot of growing up to do......
@@antmsurvivorpokemon1 , truth 🤣🤣🤣
she seems VERY untrustworthy. And revealing any type of info about Allison's mental health records is violation of a HIPPA law. Don't she got enough CRAZY business of her OWN to tend to? ugh I can't STAND her , with her BLM WANNA BE Fight the Power weird Ass.
@@bombyboo6335 As surprising as it may seem, a LOT of White SJW Liberal's act just like her .....
Who remembers Lisa’s “I BE LIKE WOAHHHH!” music video? 🤣😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Iconic
I think is funny how ENVIOUS of Allison is Lisa. You can tell. She hates everything about her lol. Of course they won’t put you on a swing with a whimsical set to say: I BE LIKE WHOA.
(I can’t believe this woman thinks she knew they will reshoot the finale and that she had the idea of the Shannon video set. Her delusion is SOMETHING ELSE)
She did have the idea for Shannon’s video set. Shannon confirmed it in her live with Adrienne
Shannon's video set wasn't exactly super innovative or anything
Her face when Allison got best video, if looks could kill!
Yea it’s really weird, she’s very envious of her and it’s super obvious .
@@katbabydoll1321 Lisa just did an interview here on youtube with a sweet photographer named Jessica Kobeissi. She flat out says that she threatened production to make her the winner (before the songs were done) because she felt she deserved it. That she was a serious musician and wanted to make sure it was known that she did it all on her own without any help like the other models did. So it wouldn't affect her music career. But Allison was chosen anyway, which myself and many others felt was the right decision, that Allison's song was meaningful and her video was fitted to her perfectly, enhancing it and bringing out her ethereal beauty.
All I have to say is.....i don't believe Lisa.And Bianca is right,Lisa really needs to stop minding other people's bussiness.
Me too
Exactly! I agree
Once the sheriff of Top Model Town, always the sheriff of Top Model Town XD
@@theguybrarian Omgg I’m cackling
I feel like evidence has proven Allison did not fail her psych exams, yet Lisa keeps insisting on a false narrative. Maybe one day Allison will sue lying Lisa for defamation of character.
Would love to hear Bianca side on all stars or Allison’s
I want to hear both!
bianca did
is she the person that told on angelea? she’s acting as if sëx workers are disgusting and she said she needed to get angelea help. and no this isn’t tea, lisa. this is you pulling BS up from 10 years ago and trying to become relevant again. seems like lisa has been hanging around mr. jay!!
ur facial expressions during this interview have me WEAAAAK it’s giving me “girl I know you fucking lying” 😂😂😂
I'm not going to say anything ugly or hateful about Lisa, and I don't necessarily believe she is lying or means any harm in the things that she says. I think this could all be true, and that she has good intentions.
However, I find it inappropriate that she outed Allison as having not passed her psych evaluations, spoke on Alexandria's behalf in regards to her mental health, insinuated that Laura didn't support BLM just because she didn't speak publicly about it, and then blamed Oliver and his fan base after ANTM fans reacted negatively to it all.
Lisa is without a doubt the most qualified winner in ANTM history since she’s as PROBLEMATIC as the show.
She’s not spilling the tea. She’s simply being an asshole.
It’s a shame Tyra and her have beef. They could have been best friends cuz she’s just like Tyra: Everything is about HER.
It annoys me Lisa has spent so much time bashing ANTM/Tyra yet Lisa wasted no time bringing up her 'win' on All Stars when she was pitching to the Sharks on Shark Tank...
Lisa has a winner mentality with loser actions
i didn't want to watch this cause I don't like her, but she's now threatening Oliver to put down her interviews, so now i have to see this before someone makes that happen 😪
every word she says is obnoxious 🥴
she's awful.
Damn, I just started watching these, why does she want him to take this down? 😮🙇♀️
Thank you Tyra for cutting her sound. 👀
🤣🤣 💯
Does Lisa really believe that Allison’s psych evaluation would make big brands skeptical of hiring her? Allison one of the most successful contestants ever if not the most successful even before All Stars was thought of. Make it make sense girl make it make sense.
Oliver’s face during the 20 min mark like 😰
LOL
They did evil to Angelea. I know that they knew ahead of time because theyre evil.
Exactly!
Oh my god. This should honestly be deleted. As Lisa just outted a s-worker this is insane...she has no business sharing other people's business. I know shes great for being messy but shes sharing people's personal information that could effect their wellbeing and safety. This is not cool or cute of funny at all. It's crazy she uses pc buzzwords and is incredibly problematic and harmful.
I never cared for Lisa. I wish her good health and all. But I am so disgusted with everything she said in this video. I hate that she's telling secrets and things that should have remained confidential and painting it in a way of her "trying to help them" or trying to "reach out." True or not, you should never share personal and confidential things about others without their consent. This video makes me so sad.
Lisa is one of those contestants that I always really wanted to like. Unfortunately the more I see her on shows like this... I realize that that is never going to happen. Good luck to her and her success I think she’s very smart business wise, but there was a fine line between being “real“ and downright petty and mean and she definitely crosses it.
Yeah I think I like her even less now… I had forgotten how she was and it’s all coming back to me 😅 yikes
Has Lisa addressed what happened with her and Joanie where Joanie lost a House of Dereon Gig after a night out with her?...👀👀👀
Angelea was such a sweet girl I really hope she's doing a lot better since ANTM days.
Love her! Saw her on the train platform but didn't bother her. Gorgeous NYC girl!!!
@@missbiancaleigh100 Facts my favorite girl she kept it real when others didn't. I feel like the others were intimidated by her.
seriously??? not that i wish her any harm but she didn't come off particualry nice on either of her antm cycles. i seem to be the only person who doesn't think angelea was robbed...though letting her win then taking it away is not nice
@@nellrose4699 She's from New York not to excuse her behavior but she was also misunderstood what a stunning girl.
@Tobie Sky I know she's doing well I follow her on IG.
did she really just try to come for Allison, the all time fan fav? oh baby naw...
In my opinion the true enemy is obviously the ANTM production. The ones who, above all else, commited the cardinal sin of casting Alison in the first place. Because, due to her predetermined failure in her evaluations, apparently she was never meant to win any cycle at all. So what that tells me is that she was used for ratings since the very beginning, and that was a disservice to herself and everyone else that she replaced in her cycles.
Lisa had an amazing redemption arc, but Alison's favoritism was so powerful that it destroyed not only hers but anyone else's chance at redemption. If Angelea kept her crown, all the hate Lisa got would be redirected towards her. If Alexandria won, she would have gotten all the heat instead. Same with Dominique. Sheena. Given the time ANTM aired, even Isis. People were more concerned with "Alison must win this time around", but the true tragedy was... She was never MEANT to win. And Lisa just so happened to be the victim who wore the crown shaped target.
Alison was always meant to be successful, with or without ANTM. Production had no business abusing her popularity and ignoring her mental heath issues just for ratings. That's another problem that should be talked about. In my opinion.
I used to get Beyoncé and Tyra mixed up when I was younger
Said no one lol
Same lmao it’s the hair
You should do an interview with Nicole from cycle 3. I feel like she would have all the behind the scenes tea.
I would like to see Dominique (Cycle 10). I hope Stacy-Ann did reach out to Dominique and convince her to do an interview with Oliver TwiXt, if Dominique is willingly comfortable to do it.
Loved Nicole
“If you want to talk for hours, you’ll love Dominique.”
“Did you two get along?”
That shade 😂.
Lisa omg u did NOT know that you were going to be the televised winner... Stop giving yourself so much credit...u may have known something was fishy but girl....please PLUS if you care about Angelea why did u not object to the new ending
Because objecting to the new ending
would have most likely ended with her in a big lawsuit.
She might be the messiest woman to walk the face of the earth lol 😂
Id research her. Shes made it out of some horrific situations. She was a succesful model way before antm. Shes an inventor and a rapper and singer. Shes made costumes for other celebrities too.
@@helixmoore7636 What did she invent? Peeing in diaper on TV?
@@soniquecat4745 Watch her product on shark tank. You seem like the type that cannot undertsand that people can grow and change for the better. Her stunt was how long ago
I sure hope youve been perfect.
@@helixmoore7636 did she change though? She is still mean and bitter and nasty, imho.
Helix Moore the product although "innovative" it's useless and offers little value to the market.
I still refuse to believe that Angelea winning was fake. Of course Lisa saying it was makes it look good on her part.
I’m with you
maybe she knew cause se snitched on her
I still don't understand why she went back because she dogged ANTM so badly after cycle 5.
To redeem herself n money duh
@@rlast4698 don't duh me! Because after she won she still trashed the show and BTW, not everyone liked Lisa on All Stars.
I think you asked an excellent question. These people abused her and were horrible. So why was it so important for her to win an award from the very people that caused her so much pain? She still needed validation from the very folks that damaged her. This is not so much of a judgment but I’m asking the question because I want to understand.
I do think her purpose of telling the story about Allison was not to harm Allison but to make people aware of the unethical practices of the producers.
If you took a shot every time Lisa said my or mine you would be absolutely trashed and probably hospitalised by the end of this. Just saying
Hm, if Lisa knew they were setting her up and making her think she won for months before taking her title, why didn’t she warn her? 🤔
Exactly!!!! Lisa stfu u didnt know a damn thing!
U were kept in the dark til they called u back with Allison.
She is a walking contradiction I don't know about her but if there was a situation that was so stressful...giving you nervous breakdowns and what not...you can offer me a million dollars an hour and I will still decline.
Sorry, but she still is acting trash. Not a fan! She definitely didn't deserve to win either!
but she did. Because Angelea got disqualified and Allison was never gonna win cause she failed her psycologycal test. Get over it.
@@vinnie906 shaming and talking about someone else's (aledged) mental illness is a real trash move from you and her.
Justice for Angelea Preston! 💪
Sure, lisa's an empath but says allison was stupid for not understanding a situation that had not been explained to them
She’s not an empath...she’s a narcissist. People who claim to be empathetic are usually the opposite.
Honestly, whenever someone goes on and on about how much of an 'empath' they are I roll my eyes lol. It seems to be a trend to say that now.
I always knew you could never trust a word out of Lisa's mouth. Girl is crazy
Those are the people you believe
i don’t believe anything that comes out of Lisa’s mouth.
High key same
Lol i do. Lol