Couldn't Be Happier This One is Over!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Tom and the guys are wrapping up this crazy project and everything goes very smoothly!
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Underneath that fortress of a floor is where I would be during a tornado. Or a nuke. 😂😅
As long as the foundation walls that support the floor don't cave in! If they did, that's a lot of weight landing on you!
a blast shelter its not.... but it can be a GREAT fallout shelter
I can see this series being very popular!👍👍
Best 3 part series ! Just subscribed !
Great job. 👍Greetings from Denmark.
Thanks For watching
@@Concretewiththehauses 👍Greetings from Denmark.
Jesus Tom
Whot a labour and calculating job that was . I must have lost a thousand calories just watching it
Happy new year to you and Donna and all the crew
God bless 🍾🍾🍾🍾
Thank you very much
Would love to hear /see what the owner does with all that new space they now have.
I believe they are just putting it back the way it was and not using it
Excellent work
I was just a tiny bit surprised that the homeowner didn't want to pour the basement floor, before the garage floor, but, I'm sure that $$$$$ got in the way of that. That sure was an unexpected treasure that, unfortunately, got real expensive, real fast. In this situation, how difficult would it have been to leave a hole in the garage floor that's about 30 inches wide, between the I beams, very much like the service pit you see at many oil change places?? This would obviously allow the homeowners to service their own vehicles. I have seen pre-poured slabs of concrete get used for exterior walls, as well as, for floors and ceilings. Would something like that been an option with this project, especially with those steel beams already in place?? What would the pros and cons be??
That would work for you or I not in this neighborhood they pay somebody to change the oil
I would have did a patch and resurfaced the garage with some self leveler and then there’s always the right way to do things.
Nice Tom and crew . Good to see you got an engineer . To help you with this project.. I'm glad you went with 5000 PSI.. Tom, do you use super P in your concrete.. all state jobs we used super P. And less water 💧. I used to drive a mixer truck years ago.
Great series! Really wish you guys were in Mississippi!
Challenge accepted and overcome 💪
What was the slump on the concrete.
5.5
Are you pouring the floor below and if so, how ?
The effort put forth by you and your crew was extraordinary for this project. All of your work is top notch but this was over the top! Great job, Again!,!
Much appreciated!😊
So nice to see the professional finish, the care you took to clean up and take care of the small details tells me so much! EXCELLENT WORK!
The smartest thing the home owner did was agree to trust an engineer. It was so professional of you guys to suggest this. So many times people want to cut costs by not hiring an architect, engineer, lawyer, building inspector, or other professional when one is needed. It always ends up costing them more in the long run. You guys are so impressive in doing everything the right way.
It'll cost a fortune if it caves in with a car, will need firefighters (to assess the danger of fuel and pump it out), architect (to asses the structure integrity if anyone can even enter the building/garage, possibly done by fire dep) and recovery crew (to get the car out)
Any trade worth their salt isn’t going to do a project like this without engineers rubber stamp on it all about covering yourself if things go wrong on that it’s not just a crack in the floor it a car dropping 8ft potentially with someone in it not a good look for any business
Sir you are the Michelangelo of concrete. What an amazing job you and your crew have done.
Wow, thank you!😊
He is more of a "Hack", he did state that "things" had to be done within 4 years some people call it "C.Y.A." Cover Your "Bottom"
That is just things are done now!
TBH? He never did show how the drains and the drain pipes were connected! Since they were rotted out around the drains? I can Only speculate.
First speculation: There was no Waterproofing between two dissimilar pipes (Cast to CVPVC)
Second Speculation: There was no Waterproofing between the Cast and Concrete! BTW? This won't stop the problem, JUST delay it! IF and only IF you live in the Rust Belt? Your Mechanic will attest to this theory!
In my theory? Use Stainless Steel for grates and use Grout and a sealer with the Stainless Steel! That seems to work in Bathrooms!
How do I know all of this? Let's call it experience!
40 years ago they poured of 24" thick slabs with 1.5" rebar on one of the busiest highways where I live and they said it would last a "lifetime"..I am still alive and that part of the road is now covered in asphalt!
Don't believe MOST of what people say! It is THEIR JOB to make you believe!!
How many yards of concrete was used in this new garage floor, I’m thinking of replacing my 3 car floor
This is young mans work
@@williamodom2580 easy to calculate yourself with your exact dimensions.. length x width x thickness all in feet, then divide by 27 (which is 27 cu feet in a cubic yard) cheers😊
Garage fllors also have a requirement for much higher point loads .Imagine the weight exerted at one point when you jack your car or truck up! Perhaps a factor in the specfication of steel rebar?
I was wondering why they didn't elect to pour a floor in the lower room, while it was open.
I’ve been wondering the same. It was the perfect time so dig it out then pour a concrete slab in the room below.
@@ButterflySiPattaya money. This project already cost the owner probably at least an extra 10k from the original budget. Pouring a slab down there, easily another 5k.
I’m afraid I’d have gone ahead and put a floor down there for dry storage and a great storm shelter in the future. Plus you can always use that as a selling point if you ever sell the property.
Boy did that turn out to be an expensive garage floor.
I was thinking the same thing.figured they could move all utilities like water heater furnaces excetra in there and finish out the basement and greatly increase the home value.
The homeowner was very very fortunate to have you on this job. Your attention to everything that needed to be done is typical of your skill and work. No corners cut, no detail ignored. Great team, great job. Happy New Year.
I done concrete work for 55 years (curb and gutter , sidewalk) and literally could make water flow up hill but would of traded it all for an apprenticeship with you. Ps I’m retired and watching videos of you and learning 😊 love it thanks.
Quick question, could you have put a heavy plastic sheeting on the metal decking prior to rebar and concrete?
That way no concrete was touching the metal decking.
I was thinking about using some of that ice, and water shield like that you use on the roof.
there is no plastic or poly sheeting on top of the metal decking, very high slump in concrete mix , at least 5 inches, the re- bar should be higher off the metal decking, etc. etc.
There was a mention of an Engineer being on this job but they should at also be on site before and during the concrete placement, so many items outstanding here, this is why the use of the words CUSTOM HOMES is over valued because of the same lack of SKILL and INSPECTION thats carried out on Track Houses also happens on these BIGGER HOUSES.
The owner’s wallet was definitely weeping after rectifying this but has got a bulletproof piece of engineering well done all ✌️😀
The work you and your team did is excellent! But I think this would’ve been a great time to concrete the floor underneath so the room could be used as a safe room or something, and maybe even would’ve added an exit into the garage floor because you always need two exits incase something happens and the basement exit is blocked.
Why does this garage need floor drains? It seem like it would be simpler to just delete them.
I'm looking forward to seeing the finished floor. What an adventure.
All that work for a residential garage. Wow, I can't imagine the cost.
I’d say it cleared $10k
@@Drakeziel the original job was probably cleared 10k. After they found the room downstairs and did all that work, let alone all the Crete and the size of his crew I'd say it certainly cleared 30 and prob flew right by that.
@@bartholomewgreatpants3425 didn't have much choice
Seeing the size of the house and the area it’s in I wouldn’t expect them to cancel it because of the costs ;p
Yeah that was a good paying gig. (Construction guy here)
I can only imagine the cost of that floor. Very labor and material intensive!
i was saying the same thing i would say in the very High Thousands Dont get me wrong every single person work there Fannys off that was not an easy job to do and the other thing i was thinking i can not imagem how the rest of the house was built if that garage floor did not last 20 yrs do to Shoddy workmenship what other conners were cut ???? just by looking at the value of the home easy 3 million in value and you dont get a garage floor to last 20 yrs i would have to say the house was built with low grade materials and very poor workmenship and this 💰💰💰💸💸💸💰💰💰💸💸to keep the inspectors to do a about -face and walk away
normal floor rip out and install from watching concrete videos is around 8-10 a sq ft. guessing that floor is 1000 sq ft. so maybe around $10,000 orgiginally and now MAN I can only guess. all that extra man hours and new decking . the anti corossive chemical. maybe $30,000.
@@mib20000 i was thinking around $ 50.000 or more thats my guess ??? there was a Huge amount of work that was done and follow ups
@@rogerstlaurent8704 you might be closer than me. I looked up the cost of that decking . 6-13 a sq ft. depending on guage. so thats another $13,000 if they picked 16 guage. so my guees is at 23,000 without all the extra labor. with that house in the millions I'm sure they can afford it
@@mib20000 Saying the same thing i am sure the owner can afford it BUT should have never happened in the first place now Thousands Later it is fixed the correct way should have been done the right way the first time i would say someone was looking the other way opening up there pockets
I wish all concrete contractors had your drive and dedication to quality craftmanship.
Should have demo'd those drains and installed a trench drain at the doors, then sloped the entire floor toward the drains. Then run the trench drains to daylight.
That has to rank up there with your most technical pours and certainly very interesting. Way more than 4 guys and a case of beer could do.
Holy cow. So many little details. 🙇♂️
I won’t lie, looking at all this I would’ve asked if you could’ve built a stairwell down into that room to make it into storage. Given you pulled up all that metal roofing anyways. All you giving up is that tiny section of flooring, to build a stairwell.
We talked a lot of different options.
I feel that just clicking the like button on this one would not give this job the appropriate recognition that it deserves. Fantastic job, and the little things you do that the homeowner will never notice (like washing down the walls) sets a high bar for others in the same field as you.
I love old man Jim!! He’s a hard worker for his age! Definitely an inspiration 💪💪 keep rockin Jim!
He a good part of the team
I would have not put those drains back in. It is obvious that the failure was the drains leaking causing the decking to rust. As a homeowner and a diyer I would have preferred a flatter floor with a slight slope to the door.
They are different drains
Such amazing attention to detail. It really shows in the end result!
It’s good to see guys that are proud of their work! You are really good at what you do!
I am surprised they didn’t have you do a slab in the basement and have an access panel thru the floor.would have been great spot for all the stuff you put in storage
What $30,000 ??the original job was probably $20,000 to tear out, and to replace the old concrete ,,, after finding that basement underneath it, probably went to 50,000 $$$
I remember a while ago watching similar process going on. Apart his floor hadn't started to crack. He had big old heavy cars and wasn't sure his floor was going to take the heavyweight. The void below stayed but with more steels and cross beam and they had to make the concrete thicker. The driveway had to slope up more to meet the new height of garage floor.The customer was very happy because he ended up with twice the space and a safe space For his old heavy cars. Hard task for anyone to take on
I just watched all three videos, It really started out like a Horor movie, I can only imagine what the Home owners must of thought when the saw the Empty space under the Garage Floor,
That was an amazing Job, and you are so Lucky to have such a Great Crew
and the Quality of your work speaks for itself, >Joe, Baltimore MD.
Thank you, Joe
Wow. The homeowners were lucky to find a contractor like Hause
I bet the homeowner was glad y'all did everything for him to get his garage back into safe use and looking great too 👍
Hope so!
So glad the home owner was able to absorb the extra costs. Redesign, architect, upgrade materials, extra labor, etc … None of these are a small chunk of change.
Why didn’t they just tilt it forward to the garage doors? That’s who my garage floor was done. No drains were needed.
I'm guessing this is the last video on this garage/room, but I'm guessing you'll be doing the floor in the room?
I think it would be great for a model train layout.
Right now the homeowner does not want to concrete the lower floor could change in the future
The cleaning, the owner, the contractor, the engineer. Great job. Thank you for sharing all the details. The other option at the end of the deck is to tapper the ribs and close the gap against the bottom.
It was only on the wall and inch and a half. I didn’t want to mess with that.
Those square drains are a waste. Too small for an easy drain. I went with trough drains in my triple bay garage plus had a polyurethane multi-color chip 15-year guaranteed coating.
Woohoo. I was number one!!
Strange but great to see the boss on the levelling stick and not just pushing the float - not too many would get down & dirty & tired like that - hats off to ya boss.
Thanks
Now they know they have a weed room 😊
It probably would have been cheaper to remove the beams, pour concrete on the dirt floor, and install a custom 3 bay auto storage lift to stack vehicles in the garage. Even if they are not into cars they could store stuff underneath and this would add a ton of resale value.
TOM, ... GREAT video! Explanation of the work and material used to do this job, definitely will open eyes of homeowners as to why it costs so much to do this!
"Buy once cry once"
"Don't be brave to try to save"
Well done Tom and Crew!
I am a concrete cutting contractor in Phoenix and I found this series interesting for two reasons. First, because I recently discovered a similar situation in a commercial building I was working in. It was a very old industrial warehouse in downtown phoenix probably over 100 years old. I was getting ready to saw cut plumbing trenches for a new butcher shop going in when I noticed what looked like an abandoned conduit cut off flush to the surface. I looked down it and it went deeper than I expected. I put my measuring tape in and it went about 8.5 feet. I grabbed a flashlight and i could see a void space with a cast concrete wall. I looked all around the building and could find no stairs, but there was a suspicious rectangular patch in the floor. I packed up and left as I had no idea how big the cellar was. I returned a few weeks later and the general contractor had cut and removed a 2' square of the suspicious patch and revealed that it had covered up a concrete stairway into a roughly 15' x 25' cellar that extended under the demising wall to about 10' under the next suite. The building was originally a warehouse for a florist. I suspect that it was used for cold storage before refrigeration was invented. The building owner apparently vaguely remembered having it covered over when he split the place up into storefront spaces, but had forgotten about it. As i understand it they decided to us it as dry storage for the new shop. One of the trenches and the grease trap were marked out for me to cut over top of this cellar. I could have easily fallen into that hole with a 700 lb machine following me, had I cut it like it was marked on day 1. I suspect that you had a similar feeling when you saw that hole in the decking instead of dirt.
The second reason is that my house has a similar basement under what was built as a carport. The construction is different and it's not hidden but a similar idea. The parking deck is supported by steel trusses on 18" centers sitting on 6" cast concrete walls. The deck itself is formed on the bottom by this strange wire mesh reinforced twine and paper like fabric laid across the trusses. It is 4" of concrete with rebar grid that can be seen in a penetration they made for ventilation. You can see where the mesh paper sagged between trusses about 1/2 inch. The house was built in the 50s and I think the carport was enclosed in the 80s. They parked two cars from that era on it for many years, as is apparent from oil spots still visible on what is now a stained concrete floor. There is some surface cracking that looks like it happened early on, maybe as the concrete shed its water and got lighter and it flexed back up. I'm curious to know if you have a similar condition with your pour? I enjoy your videos and appreciate the extra effort you put into capturing them on video for us. Thanks
That reminds me of a sidewalk job I seen a company do in the downtown area where the buildings were 3-4 stories. Any way when they started to demo the sidewalk they found that the basement from the building went out to the street curb ,it was quite a job to replace that sidewalk. On an interesting note though in some towns it is not that all uncommon for buildings to have their basements run out to the street curb. I never have found out why some were designed that way.
If it was mine I would've poured creat in basement. floor and wall garage . Then built a new garage
what are you setting your EPA at the guy on the Ramset needs training he meant to say firing look around for 20 to30 seconds and then fire
Question: Have you guys ever considered the "Ever-Seal" product/treatment waterproofing sealant (lifetime stuff)? Did my exterior driveway/sidewalk with this and have been pleased thus far.
Driving a cement mixer for 15 years I've seen guys building do a lot of stuff but never seen anything like that corrugated floor, that was highly interesting watching you and your crew are amazing like a well-oiled machine I didn't see a video for the steel floor removal and installation but I'm sure there was a job all by itself... I hope them bottom floor was originally concrete, if not why did they not do it? Could have turned it into living area or game room or something Workshop man cave... Beautiful job
Thanks for watching. It was a video right before this one.
I don't know anything about concrete or Construction but I binge watched this entire project that your team did and I enjoyed it thoroughly! Appreciate the time and effort y'all put forth in filming this so that we could all see it bear fruit.
I just happened across this video. I am wanting to build a garage over a basement and you have given me a lot of tips of what to watch for. I am hoping my building will stand for 75-100 years. I will need a garage floor that will last longer than the 18 years this old floor lasted. Thanks for the great video.
I'm surprised they didn't want an access point into that space. Shame not to use it.
You couldn't sell them a slab in the lower level?
I tried no
What a difficult challenge! But you and your guys did a great job (as usual). Thank you for sharing it with us. Aren't you glad you don't have to handle this type of job all the time?
Believe me a good crew is everything I've been doing a basement dig out and underpinning by myself. Hard to get good guys. I'm managing well because this is nothing new but man would it be nice having a few good guys. I'm not complaining and the customer is very happy
It's difficult to get anyone to help with anything, at least in my area.
Dang, that was stressful just watching.
15:22 Guy with the green hoodie didn’t look too happy about the cement splash. He looked like he had a word or two for the boss, that was priceless
I saw that
Wasn’t wearing safety glasses
Hey check out the soux chief plastic floor drain system. It comes in two pieces and is adjustable and you install the top after the pour. I used them alot in the plumbing trade for years and they make trench drains and other things that are traffic rated.
That was a lot of mud that went under that chase in the corner. What was the total weight on the garage floor? Nice work.
16 yards times 4000 pounds each
Great set of videos. My son ran a crew that pumped concrete up 13+ floors in a new building...now I see the equipment he used on a small scale.
My knees are hurting watching this, well done boys. Good job.
My dad was a cement finisher for 5 years after he got home from WW2. He taught me how to finish too. Dad finished a lot of cement of our neighbors. It is an art!
Outstanding job gentlemen. Will you show what the homeowner does with the extra room under the garage?
Nice work. The effort the maintain cleanliness is what really makes the difference in the outcome of a job!
One note on this awesome job. When using a corded electric drill, one should always use something to seal where the drill plug meets the extension power line. If that plug pulls out slightly and gets against that rebar or decking, then everyone on that decking could be killed. Yeah yeah yeah…..we used a GFCI outlet. Tell that to the dead laborers’ families. Just an observation and a thought from an old state investigator…..
Thanks I never ever even thought about that
Hey there one question I'm from the Pittsburgh area . As well who supplied the corrugated metal sheeting for this job? My buddy is trying to build a garage and has some issues finding the corrugated sheeting. Thank yinz!
Chambers Steel
I learned about watering concrete from my Grandpa, you're the only other person I've seen or heard of doing it.
Where's this house at what area. Im in kcmo that would definitely be a tornado shelter and by the weather is looks like the midwest.
The house and everything above grade would be gone in an f5 but with a proper floor joist system that room would still stand tall.
Ok.looks like Pittsburgh PA. Well the rebar should be good steel.
Thats a 2 million dollar house give or take a dime. The 30k some change spent on the floor is a dent in his savings account. Me it devastate my budget.
Thats a big 3 car garage on a very nice looking home. Its a shame the job wasn't done right from the start.
And you cant go back on the orignal contractors for the mistakes made.
Id have added a drain outside also 16" wide the length of all 3 doors
My driveway slopes to the house it also has a lip step and it started to drop but it was pined to the garage floor I dont have any drains in a 2 car garage that 25' wide and 30' deep. You guys get a hell of a lot more snow. With s troft type drain you can push everything to it.
I really do like the inside floor drains a lot of people don’t use that but it leaves a lot of garbage laying at the door. The drips off the car with the driveway sloping away from the door. No drain needed in your case I can see how that would be different. Thanks for commenting. See you on the next one.
I'm shocked that relatively thin decking is able to hold such weight. I wouldv'e thought it necessary for much thicker gauge material. Can anybody tell me what gauge decking they think that is?
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DOOMED to fail in the exact same way as it did before requiring replacement AGAIN The concrete must be waterproof to prevent water from running through the concrete. Once the PH of the concrete becomes neutral or acid the deck will decay and you start again. IN areas where roads are salted this condition occurs more rapidly. WHY do al this work to not reconcile the original underlying issue and set the owner up to have the same problem?
And now if you were to waterproof the finish on the concrete is improper for most waterproofing systems
At a minimum there should be a Siloxane topically applied before the concrete has had a chance to cure
Be patient we have one more video coming up. Thanks.
I hope insurance paid for some of this..... And like a few others said, I think I would have wanted you to pour that lower room too. Would have been a slow cure though....
We tried no
I have been a concrete contractor since 1988 and I only ran into a space like this underneath porches. After the first one, when we poked through with a jackhammer and saw the homeowners beer can collection on the shelves, I ALWAYS check the basements for another open area. I have never found an open space like you did under a garage! You can bet that I will be checking on those too from now on! Thank you for this video. You probably saved a lot of contractors a lot of headaches.
Why did you always down the inside of the garage or the concrete? What's the purpose of getting the concrete all wet after the poor? From my understanding water weakens the concrete.
Correct the more water in the mix the weaker the cement. The longer the concrete takes to dry the stronger it will get.that’s why we hydrate it after the set.
Why does the home wrap not leave the marks? My garage shows every mark with the plastic that was recommended by big box store, lol. This was a great 3 part project...
It can breath
Would have been interesting to see the results if you guys would have used a concrete vibrator and it hit from the underside. May have made the edges flow under the wall better maybe? Nevertheless, great work and very professional.
Thanks
That turned out beautiful. I have this in my house, but it's with spancrete and another 6" of concrete on top of that. No floor drains, I wish I would have put some of those in.
Thanks
I can't wait to see the final video. This has been an amazing job. You guys are like concrete artists. Came over from OWTM channel and looking forward to when yall do his woodyard concrete.
May be a dumb question, but did those 2x4 walls underneath from the earlier videos come out or were they needed permanently?
I would say those are temporary, my thought was they wouldn’t used regular lumber contacting the ground
@@waltjames9988 Yeah good point. You’re probably right.
Grate video
half inch chairs seems a bit close to the bottom of the pour ,though guess you have different rules over there re the placement of steel and how its location effects the structural strength of the slab also would have placed slip joints where it sits on existing structure to allow movement without cracking,here if you added to the mix would be rejected immediately,what strength was the mix ??and slump , and YES have done many slabs on this type of suspended floors with metal decking here in AU prior to a pour the engineers checks all is correct and writes off as such ,as said interesting you , would find green seal or similar works wonders ,just spray on and no need for the coverage you used ,here use a stud gun to tie sheets together and to fix to the structural steel ,quick fast and cheaper labour wise
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With the Engineer calling for the decking to be fastened every foot along the perimeter, was there any spec as to edge distance of the fasteners ? It looked like the concrete nail holes along the front of the slab (by the doors) were only about 1/2" from the edge of the steel. Not much strength there.
That was all the lip we have
Man I can’t believe this homeowner didn’t know that room was there. I bet previous owner saw the rust and got the hell outta there. And I have to ask, why not put an epoxy floor down? Would that not seal out water intrusion?
Final video we sealed the floor and caulked all the joints to keep water out
advanced job for sure did you pour the previous floor that got 18 yrs respect from Ontario great job
No. Thanks
I take my hat off to you, a great job, well-organized and executed 😇 London England
Thanks so much! 😊
Why do you have to many guy's working not that I am saying that it can be done with 3 men but you are waisting money. Maybe I over work my men well I work with them we can beat any 6 man crew out there and have the quality the same or better for less.
It’s a long race
Wow, what a job. Were you able to tell me about the decking and what dimensions it was? Thanks
Such a shame the underneath wasn’t turned into a room. Could have put ceiling ladder at the back of the garage as well as Al alternate entry point
I agree
What a nightmare for the homeowner. At least they drew the lucky straw on the concrete crew and got the best crew possible to fix the problem.
Thanks
There is a puddle visible at the end of the video (close to the pair of windows). Shouldn't the slope of the floor prevent that?
I will have to look, did not notice it
How deep did you pour this? I have something similar at my house and what was the reason for doing the job in the first place?
Floor was cracking and failing. 4 inches at the drain 6 inches at the wall.
Looks Great 👍. Did the owner ever say what he was going to do with all of the extra space that y'all found.
For now they are leaving it as unused space