Great "power" vid Bob and the locos were really working hard. It's a measure of the severity of Cockett that a Super 60 and a 66 were crawling up the bank, albeit from a near standing start. What a noise at Margam Knuckle yard as the train entered the yard with much squealing and groaning off the tanks. Liked your bit a history of loco practice over the years and didn't know you were bilingual! Thanks for a great video, Ken
Thanks Kev, 74 was down here for ages, but I think they needed to have two of the best for working over the bank at Cockett....hence 63 and 40 are currently resident....Bob
Thanks both, having already filmed at Loughor, and heavy rain preventing filming during the week, thank goodness it stayed dry on the last chance to get this on Cockett Bank....Bob
Without a run at the bank because of Loughor Bridge, it's full power to the summit, despite that I didn't hear this train until it came round the bend, such is the improvement of these 60's. In steam days a Castle would be restricted to six coaches up here unassisted, They still run steam over here, but the load has to be restricted to prevent failures, of which there are a few. Last one was 5029 Nunney Castle in September 2011 . Thanks for watching...Bob
Thanks very much Bob, that's most helpful and confirms the one I saw 60054 is a Super 60. They must have made some some pretty radical changes to them. Cheers Ken
Thanks Wayne, I can imagine how strange all this is to you, in the same way, I find it amazing to see much larger and longer trains over there with you. Over here the loading gauge restricts the use of larger locomotives, and routes are very old and have steep gradients and shap curves, all of which are limiting factors.....Regards...Bob
Now you're talking Austin, it's interesting to note, that in days of steam, even the wonderful Castles only took five or six coaches up there unaided....yet only last year Nunney Castle took nine up there but had a 47 on the back end to help....Bob
Like the HST's Ken these super 60's are so quiet even at full power, but you can't but admire these giants....with such a load on board, no wonder these tanks creak and groan, into those old sidings at Margam. I am pleased to day I have spoken Welsh for longer than I've spoken English, unfortunately doing neither particularly well,,,,Bob
very nice Bob great coverage of what goes on in your erea. strange for us over the pond to see such short trains. Our Oil tank trains are 80 tankers with three engines. but here it is strange to see trains carring crude oil tank cars. This is not normal but it seems to be now that oil people have no way of transporting it from North Decota USA to refineres.
Power climbing a bank, that's my kind of thing. Truly excellent watch, gives an insight into the effort required to shift a load of around 3000 tons up a gradient. It surprises me they don't need a banking loco from the Robeston terminal to Johnston station as this is an awkward climb with S bends to negotiate. I have seen the full Murcos pass here and the 60 was at melting point at full bore at around 10-12mph
Major engineering works on Ynysforgan Viaduct and Tawe Bridge, couple of hundred yards to the east are the reasons why some trains are being re-routed over the 1 in 50 of Cockett banks.
No Dean the empties go West to the Gulf refinery at Robeston in Pembrokeshire and the loaded wagons travels to Theal and Westerleigh for distribution.....Bob
Shows the gradient well, to make two locos of 3000 hp + work that hard. the 25 mph speed restriction sign seems a bit optimistic. Do they ever have steam along that way? I know Stormy bank does sometimes, but the other one would be interesting.
Yes the 60 was very quiet and I was amazed just how quiet! Are all the refurbished 60s classed as Super 60s? My reason for asking is that I finally caught one [first one in years I understand, 60054] in Scotland on Friday last in tandem with its electric contemporary, 92003 on a special load 6X65 and I thought it sounded quiet for the load it had on as the 92 was DIT! Will be posting within the next 24 hours. The two brush locos looked good together
There's nothing else capable of doing this hard slog, day in and day out...Thanks again Mike....Bob
Thanks very much for your kind and much appreciated comments...Bob
Great "power" vid Bob and the locos were really working hard. It's a measure of the severity of Cockett that a Super 60 and a 66 were crawling up the bank, albeit from a near standing start. What a noise at Margam Knuckle yard as the train entered the yard with much squealing and groaning off the tanks. Liked your bit a history of loco practice over the years and didn't know you were bilingual! Thanks for a great video, Ken
It's a very striking colour Keith, and looks good in any lighting conditions......
Bob
Thanks Kev, 74 was down here for ages, but I think they needed to have two of the best for working over the bank at Cockett....hence 63 and 40 are currently resident....Bob
That's such a heavy train Bob. I couldn't help but think how you wouldn't mind seeing a couple of 9F's struggling up that bank. As ever, great filming
Thank you very much for your support...Bob
Thanks both, having already filmed at Loughor, and heavy rain preventing filming during the week, thank goodness it stayed dry on the last chance to get this on Cockett Bank....Bob
Without a run at the bank because of Loughor Bridge, it's full power to the summit, despite that I didn't hear this train until it came round the bend, such is the improvement of these 60's. In steam days a Castle would be restricted to six coaches up here unassisted, They still run steam over here, but the load has to be restricted to prevent failures, of which there are a few. Last one was 5029 Nunney Castle in September 2011 . Thanks for watching...Bob
Thanks very much Bob, that's most helpful and confirms the one I saw 60054 is a Super 60. They must have made some some pretty radical changes to them. Cheers Ken
Thanks very much for that information, it's certainly improved things for a while.....Bob
Thanks Wayne, I can imagine how strange all this is to you, in the same way, I find it amazing to see much larger and longer trains over there with you. Over here the loading gauge restricts the use of larger locomotives, and routes are very old and have steep gradients and shap curves, all of which are limiting factors.....Regards...Bob
Something a little different for you Rich.....Thanks again...Bob
Now you're talking Austin, it's interesting to note, that in days of steam, even the wonderful Castles only took five or six coaches up there unaided....yet only last year Nunney Castle took nine up there but had a 47 on the back end to help....Bob
Fantastic shots!!!! Very Very good!
Another excellent video Bob,it was a bit of a effort up Cocket well captured (C&A)
Like the HST's Ken these super 60's are so quiet even at full power, but you can't but admire these giants....with such a load on board, no wonder these tanks creak and groan, into those old sidings at Margam. I am pleased to day I have spoken Welsh for longer than I've spoken English, unfortunately doing neither particularly well,,,,Bob
Thanks Adam, with 3,000 tons behind it even a 60 needs a banker up Cockett Bank at 1:50 and no chance to have a run at it....Bob
It's fantastic! :)
Great vid Bob,loved the sound's of working loco's! Rich
Fantastic location Bob.
very nice Bob great coverage of what goes on in your erea.
strange for us over the pond to see such short trains.
Our Oil tank trains are 80 tankers with three engines.
but here it is strange to see trains carring crude oil tank cars.
This is not normal but it seems to be now that oil people have no way
of transporting it from North Decota USA to refineres.
Power climbing a bank, that's my kind of thing. Truly excellent watch, gives an insight into the effort required to shift a load of around 3000 tons up a gradient. It surprises me they don't need a banking loco from the Robeston terminal to Johnston station as this is an awkward climb with S bends to negotiate. I have seen the full Murcos pass here and the 60 was at melting point at full bore at around 10-12mph
Major engineering works on Ynysforgan Viaduct and Tawe Bridge, couple of hundred yards to the east are the reasons why some trains are being re-routed over the 1 in 50 of Cockett banks.
It's the steepest part of the climb Justin, but difficult location to film at....Bob
Amazing how these modern locos produce barely any exhaust smoke, unlike the older classes used to.
All the Super 60's are out shopped in the DBS red livery, Ken and are to all intents and purpose new locos. 54 certainly being one of them.....Bob
No Dean the empties go West to the Gulf refinery at Robeston in Pembrokeshire and the loaded wagons travels to Theal and Westerleigh for distribution.....Bob
Shows the gradient well, to make two locos of 3000 hp + work that hard. the 25 mph speed restriction sign seems a bit optimistic. Do they ever have steam along that way? I know Stormy bank does sometimes, but the other one would be interesting.
Yes the 60 was very quiet and I was amazed just how quiet! Are all the refurbished 60s classed as Super 60s? My reason for asking is that I finally caught one [first one in years I understand, 60054] in Scotland on Friday last in tandem with its electric contemporary, 92003 on a special load 6X65 and I thought it sounded quiet for the load it had on as the 92 was DIT! Will be posting within the next 24 hours. The two brush locos looked good together
The are the ones that have been upgraded Ken
60007
60015
60054
60059
60063
60074
60079
60091
Regards...Bob
Not really Dave, I can have an extra few hours in bed, and the toot was to warn the yard staff of its arrival......Many thanks....Bob
Will you be sad it returns to normal route Bob ? I take it the toot was for you ...good one
Wouldnt that be the empties?
They must made some pretty radical changes to them. My video is just uploaded. Cheers, Ken
Gwych! Wedi dal yr action or dachre ir diwedd! Unwaith eto! Diddorol gweld y route newydd! Sion
Diolch Sion, mae wedi bod yn gyffrous iawn i weld digwyddiadau prin o'r fath, felly diolch i chi fel bob amser am eich cefnogaeth ... Bob