I think the reason I don’t mind this being a flop from Drinker is because he never touted it as the next step in media or movies or like even to “offset the woke movies we have” or anything like that. Dude wrote a book series and got offered to make a short film off it, can’t blame him for trying. But just as he can criticize the bullshit Hollywood puts out, it’s only fair we get to judge the pile of she he gave us! He’s also not trying to vehemently defend it or go after people saying it’s bad like we’ve seen directors and actors do so this is just a miss from him. I still enjoy his other content! Just like I still enjoy your guys’ content!
I'm not really into this, but saying they criticize multi-million dollar Hollywood garbage so we can criticize their small movie is a bit of a stretch Isn't it kinda obvious that their own movie won't meet their expectations of actual movies? And they aren't trying to meet it either? I doubt any critic actually thinks they can make a good movie, but they can still expect a million dollar movie to be good.
Drinkers reputation is quickly souring. I don’t know if he was always a hack or if it’s just that he no longer has any passion for filmmaking. You can really tell in his recent videos that he’s just going through the motions and repeating the same talking points with nothing new or insightful. I still don’t understand why he makes videos whining about movies and shows he hasn’t even seen (like The Boys season 4)
Because rage bait is very popular, his audience soared when he stumbled into hating on Star Wars and he just kept that up with hating anything Disney or "woke". There are hilarious breakdowns of his reviews that shows how dumb he is as a critic, his Glass Onion "reviews" are an example, he's too stupid to understand the movie so he just yells at it.
It was never meant to be a TV Proof of Concept. It was marketed as a "movie" and then when he realised it was getting roasted, dumped it on his channel, changed the title and pretended it never happened. He's not referenced it since, never acknowledged the criticism and he's still getting daily comments absolutely slating it. I wonder what he really did with the £303 grand, because it's not on the screen. He's a grifter.
@23:33 That's a nice summary of the situation. The reality is that the "formula" for making something as complex as a movie is made of SO many little parts.. and even one of them can make what should otherwise be "good", feel lacking.
Ironically the algorithm made me aware of you guys a few months ago from some of Drinker's old Dr Who stuff. I like his old stuff but genuinely can't watch him now because of how everything is viewed through the lens of modern day politics for him and the increasingly painful people he seems to associate with (Mauler seems a good egg though). Ironic as they constantly complain about politics in media then do exactly the same in their content. I felt it was all getting very right wing and then a few weeks ago my quite right wing father who also likes RUclips - he's English and watches US fox news - but doesn't have much interest in movies and TV, asked me whether Id heard of the Critical Drinker. The algorithm never lies. Keep up the good content as i think you give a fair analysis and point out "the message" when necessary but dont let it override your feedback on story, dialogue,.production etc
@burgunbeerd Im sorry, but now you have to talk about how everything is woke/anti-woke (delete where appropriate) and give us daily updates on Disney's stock price. I don't make the rules
Stop listening to the critical drinker when he just couldn’t shut the hell up about railing against Woke all the time. Just became the same noise constantly. The people who constantly complain about Woke are Now surpassing the people who are woke in levels of annoyance. So yeah, I couldn’t give a shit.
My thoughts exactly. It's like animals being used for infestations. Woke was just small annoying bugs and now it's large disgusting rats (Anti-Woke) eating those bugs that we have to deal with now.
He gets a million views by talking over a trailer while making fart jokes. You get 500 for breaking down every camera angle of a whole episode. He wins
@buckkowalzek9745 Lol the dirt-tier scrub hate is fuel I don't think he's truly capable of what he's attempting but it's more than anything you are attempting, which is nothing
@@jasonsantiago6308 "What exactly is he attempting? To keep a huge base of people in the miasma of 'anti-WOKE' propaganda on behalf of the black cube's people... I truly think he is capable of that! You're proof."
@ "What exactly is he attempting? To keep a huge base of people in the miasma of 'anti-WOKE' propaganda on behalf of the black cube's people... I truly think he is capable of that! You're proof."
Hmmmmmm this is a bit odd... In some ways they are mostly right, but its a bit like saying these 3 are terrible presenters and dont have the charisma of prime time chatshow hosts... Or they are too ugly for video, because they dont look like Holywood A-listers, so they really should NOT be seen. Its true, but at the same time, they are just doing a job, like the actors/director etc... These film people will NEVER be as good as their A-list peers. Critical Drinker is fair game (for the record i like him), its his product, he wrote some of it, i think... But unless they had bags of cash, and could of got S-tier Hollywood filmakers to make this, i find it distasteful to say the actors are shit. The casting argument just doesn't hold up, why dont we replace these 3 with Hammond, May & Clarkson... The answer is mostly in the green.
So... how is Critical Drinker different in that regard when he complains about movies? Imagine defending the film of a film critic by disparaging film criticism. The movie is generic action sludge and is therefore going to get criticism. I don't know what else to tell you.
You do know - when you do the gif or clip that says / who are you - you are three men in shorts - and at least he has made a piece of work - - and you sound great - but you have produced ? Erm produced? Let’s all move on!
Why are you guys on my feed… three ppl sitting around and blaming a film enthusiast trying his best in film making…is this insightful..? Is this a review? I just don’t get how 3 guys putting their mind to review a passion project…the comparisons are with jack reacher, MI and John wick… what made you guys to release this video.. Did you guys think you did some productive work.?
@@Raiders1917 critical drinker being pretentious is your perception. I am neither questioning it nor disagreeing your point.. But it is rather diminishing and belittling to see critics, who review mainstream movies and tv shows created by well established and experienced crew with budgets you have never seen in your life, ganging up on some RUclipsr’s Debutal movie.
@dee_babs Anyone could have made this, and it would have been seen as shit. If it talks like a duck and walks like a duck. It's probably a duck. The novel this is based on is not highly rated either. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Your argument for letting productions have bad actors falls apart when you compare budgets, if you’re given 250 mill for 8 episodes you can fly actors out, paying for all that stuff on a shoestring budget is just not practical, so it makes way more sense for them to have hired Canadian actors where as Disney or whoever else has no excuse when they’re throwing that amount of money at every project they do. Sorry but that one’s truly unfair, and it’s right after you saying you’re going to be overly harsh. Direct it towards something a little bit more fixable without money, like better camera work or having better direction, and dialogue. Not hiring choices limited by money and location.
Generally with independent productions, the actors are as bad as the directors who direct them. It's a collaboration to get the actor and their performance to serve the story in a satisfying way. And you might get very lucky with non-professional or unknown actors. With that said, some big budget films get bad actors assigned by producers for clout as well.
Rouge Elements is best discribled as "We have Jack Ryan at home, but he is British."
The best way to enjoy Rogue Elements is with friends so you can laugh at it
Very rude to bring Freddie W up in the same breath as Hypocritical Drinker 😅
I think the reason I don’t mind this being a flop from Drinker is because he never touted it as the next step in media or movies or like even to “offset the woke movies we have” or anything like that. Dude wrote a book series and got offered to make a short film off it, can’t blame him for trying. But just as he can criticize the bullshit Hollywood puts out, it’s only fair we get to judge the pile of she he gave us! He’s also not trying to vehemently defend it or go after people saying it’s bad like we’ve seen directors and actors do so this is just a miss from him. I still enjoy his other content! Just like I still enjoy your guys’ content!
Ew
👏👏👏👏 this
I'm not really into this, but saying they criticize multi-million dollar Hollywood garbage so we can criticize their small movie is a bit of a stretch
Isn't it kinda obvious that their own movie won't meet their expectations of actual movies? And they aren't trying to meet it either?
I doubt any critic actually thinks they can make a good movie, but they can still expect a million dollar movie to be good.
Unt vhat do you meen? I zink ze akzents are perfoctly servizibal! Veri goot ya!
Drinkers reputation is quickly souring. I don’t know if he was always a hack or if it’s just that he no longer has any passion for filmmaking. You can really tell in his recent videos that he’s just going through the motions and repeating the same talking points with nothing new or insightful. I still don’t understand why he makes videos whining about movies and shows he hasn’t even seen (like The Boys season 4)
Because rage bait is very popular, his audience soared when he stumbled into hating on Star Wars and he just kept that up with hating anything Disney or "woke". There are hilarious breakdowns of his reviews that shows how dumb he is as a critic, his Glass Onion "reviews" are an example, he's too stupid to understand the movie so he just yells at it.
This editing is gold, love it :D
It was never meant to be a TV Proof of Concept. It was marketed as a "movie" and then when he realised it was getting roasted, dumped it on his channel, changed the title and pretended it never happened. He's not referenced it since, never acknowledged the criticism and he's still getting daily comments absolutely slating it. I wonder what he really did with the £303 grand, because it's not on the screen. He's a grifter.
Listening to you guys rag on Critical Drinker is amazing!
Still love the Drinker. They ain't all 10s son
@23:33 That's a nice summary of the situation.
The reality is that the "formula" for making something as complex as a movie is made of SO many little parts.. and even one of them can make what should otherwise be "good", feel lacking.
"I got a lot of RUclipsr books I need you to read"- Right into a Shadow of the Conqueror Jumpscare. No one deserves to read Shadow of the Conqueror.
Ironically the algorithm made me aware of you guys a few months ago from some of Drinker's old Dr Who stuff. I like his old stuff but genuinely can't watch him now because of how everything is viewed through the lens of modern day politics for him and the increasingly painful people he seems to associate with (Mauler seems a good egg though). Ironic as they constantly complain about politics in media then do exactly the same in their content. I felt it was all getting very right wing and then a few weeks ago my quite right wing father who also likes RUclips - he's English and watches US fox news - but doesn't have much interest in movies and TV, asked me whether Id heard of the Critical Drinker. The algorithm never lies. Keep up the good content as i think you give a fair analysis and point out "the message" when necessary but dont let it override your feedback on story, dialogue,.production etc
The Aussies have officially joined the Culture War™️
aw dangit, we just wanted to make fun of a bad movie!
@burgunbeerd Im sorry, but now you have to talk about how everything is woke/anti-woke (delete where appropriate) and give us daily updates on Disney's stock price. I don't make the rules
Pretty tempted to shoot myself on the foot and take the dishonourable discharge!
@@burgunbeerd Huge props for taking shots at this drunk intelligence asset!
'Ryan Drake' already sounds generic.
27:38 is that critical drinker
@@reneeeve it sure is. That's his cameo
wait till you notice the caps still on the bottle he's drinking
I watched 10 minutes and honestly thought ‘this has got to be a joke?’
The books aren’t much better.
i enjoyed this, good to see im not alone in my thinking. cheers mates
I'm imagining a Barry Norman kitchen-sink drama and it's pretty awesome (in my head).
Great wrestling references 👍🏾
Awful movie, made by one of the lamest people on youtube, I love it.
Respect to you guys for actually watching this cause I couldn't 😭
Lead actor's accent sounds like Sean Bean mixed with Ali G
His movie looked like a low budget ABC series
@criticaldrinkr You have become the very thing you swore to destroy!
Stop listening to the critical drinker when he just couldn’t shut the hell up about railing against Woke all the time. Just became the same noise constantly. The people who constantly complain about Woke are Now surpassing the people who are woke in levels of annoyance. So yeah, I couldn’t give a shit.
The anti-woke are the new snowflakes. Nothing but complaining.
My thoughts exactly. It's like animals being used for infestations.
Woke was just small annoying bugs and now it's large disgusting rats (Anti-Woke) eating those bugs that we have to deal with now.
Those conservatives just make great films. There is all those classic right winger films like ............like..........the movie about Jesus
aussie dollar store redlettermedia
Keen
The critical drinker is an intelligence asset.
Drinker wishes he was Tom Clancy.
@@Raiders1917 Ah YO! Just glad RUclips stopped deleting my comments.
@@buckkowalzek9745 lol welcome back
There’s already jokes about this being his Threat Level Midnight right? Photoshop his face on Agent Michael Scarn’s
Boost
He gets a million views by talking over a trailer while making fart jokes. You get 500 for breaking down every camera angle of a whole episode. He wins
Yeah, cause it's all about money and views and nobody cares about being respected for what they create, right? Braindead take.
His channel isn't natural, not everyone gets invited to go on Russel Brand and Ben Shapiro.
@buckkowalzek9745 Lol the dirt-tier scrub hate is fuel
I don't think he's truly capable of what he's attempting but it's more than anything you are attempting, which is nothing
@@jasonsantiago6308 "What exactly is he attempting? To keep a huge base of people in the miasma of 'anti-WOKE' propaganda on behalf of the black cube's people... I truly think he is capable of that! You're proof."
@ "What exactly is he attempting? To keep a huge base of people in the miasma of 'anti-WOKE' propaganda on behalf of the black cube's people... I truly think he is capable of that! You're proof."
Hmmmmmm this is a bit odd...
In some ways they are mostly right, but its a bit like saying these 3 are terrible presenters and dont have the charisma of prime time chatshow hosts...
Or they are too ugly for video, because they dont look like Holywood A-listers, so they really should NOT be seen.
Its true, but at the same time, they are just doing a job, like the actors/director etc...
These film people will NEVER be as good as their A-list peers.
Critical Drinker is fair game (for the record i like him), its his product, he wrote some of it, i think...
But unless they had bags of cash, and could of got S-tier Hollywood filmakers to make this, i find it distasteful to say the actors are shit.
The casting argument just doesn't hold up, why dont we replace these 3 with Hammond, May & Clarkson...
The answer is mostly in the green.
Imagine 3 Brits nobody has ever heard of complaining about people who are actually productive.
So... how is Critical Drinker different in that regard when he complains about movies? Imagine defending the film of a film critic by disparaging film criticism.
The movie is generic action sludge and is therefore going to get criticism. I don't know what else to tell you.
You do know - when you do the gif or clip that says / who are you - you are three men in shorts - and at least he has made a piece of work - - and you sound great - but you have produced ? Erm produced? Let’s all move on!
Why are you guys on my feed… three ppl sitting around and blaming a film enthusiast trying his best in film making…is this insightful..? Is this a review? I just don’t get how 3 guys putting their mind to review a passion project…the comparisons are with jack reacher, MI and John wick… what made you guys to release this video.. Did you guys think you did some productive work.?
Chill out man
So, Drinker can be a pretentious ass, no one can, though.
He made his bed, he can lay in it.
@@Arander92 I was being logically sound.. I don’t understand why do you think I have lost my ‘chill’.
@@Raiders1917 critical drinker being pretentious is your perception. I am neither questioning it nor disagreeing your point.. But it is rather diminishing and belittling to see critics, who review mainstream movies and tv shows created by well established and experienced crew with budgets you have never seen in your life, ganging up on some RUclipsr’s Debutal movie.
@dee_babs Anyone could have made this, and it would have been seen as shit. If it talks like a duck and walks like a duck. It's probably a duck.
The novel this is based on is not highly rated either. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Your argument for letting productions have bad actors falls apart when you compare budgets, if you’re given 250 mill for 8 episodes you can fly actors out, paying for all that stuff on a shoestring budget is just not practical, so it makes way more sense for them to have hired Canadian actors where as Disney or whoever else has no excuse when they’re throwing that amount of money at every project they do. Sorry but that one’s truly unfair, and it’s right after you saying you’re going to be overly harsh. Direct it towards something a little bit more fixable without money, like better camera work or having better direction, and dialogue. Not hiring choices limited by money and location.
Generally with independent productions, the actors are as bad as the directors who direct them. It's a collaboration to get the actor and their performance to serve the story in a satisfying way. And you might get very lucky with non-professional or unknown actors. With that said, some big budget films get bad actors assigned by producers for clout as well.