I've been a Wayne believer for a couple of years, with good runes his third skill hits like a drunken stepdad! More versatility then Bella? Bella heals, strips, breaks, and buffs att bar a absolute swiss army monster. Sure later game aoe becomes a little more important but so much time is spent needing his tools you use him on everything. I used him in Necro with Colleen because I had him on fast vio for extra heals and a fast armor break on captured mons and as many often do don't forget the att bar buff in a dungeon that limits speed. While everyone was bitching about a solid Necro team I had one and Bella kept it 100% only months after starting the game. I've seen Bella tanking front line in raids maybe not R5 but up until. Absolutely a necessity on Dragons and Giants till you start building speed teams. I'm sorry Wayne doesn't come even close to this versatility. There's a point Bella doesn't garner your best runes but you can be damned sure Wayne hits that ceiling long before Bella.
Devilmon is great, you can feed him to lots of 5 stars, and some 4 stars, but he's not versatile because you wouldn't feed him to anything less than a 4 star. BUT...you can feed a water sandman to like, everything- even to a devilmon if you're bored. Sandman is def most versatile food monster. You get one from an unknown scroll and you're like, cool, more crap. But in a good, "How fast can I feed this crap and try to summon something better" sort of way.
Wow, great point! I totally forgot the 2* silver drops in scenario. So omitting those, *punches numbers frantically in calculator* and omitting one stars that don't drop in dungeons (because they are less common) *wipes away sweat while double checking charts and graphs* and then narrowing the field down to the least desirable element (fire) the new clear winner is... FIRE SLIME. Get into Mt. Siz and start farming!
Holy shit I haven’t watched this yet but I’m just glad you made another top 10 video. I understand you can’t be making a top 10 video every week, but I still think you should revamp most your top tens, there’s newer monsters and with patch buffs on a lot of monsters in general. It’s what first made me even watch you in the first place and I think a lot of people would love them too. Please make more
I love your videos, continue to make more summoners war! I put you thumbs for each of them. You are a good guy. I hope people will stay on summoners war, it's a great mobile game that has a lot of potential, with many updates I have only 2 five stars in 1 year of intensive play only, I hope to have more ... Otherwise, it may be that the game will reach a bigger dimension with big competitions, cash prize with competitive players like on other games like Cs go or Leage of legend Have fun on the game Long live summoners war and long live the community and long live the United States peace!
i don't know if it was the demise of SMS that made you step up your game but this is one of the best videos you've done in some time. made me take a look at several units i have ignored.
I definitely agree with most of this list, however I feel like Darion and even Lyn deserve a spot in there. Darion can quite literally be used anywhere in the game, and Lyn too except for AD, GWD and Necro
One year ago, I thought Wayne was far better than Bernard. Made him one of my first *5s on my main. Realized I needed Bernard and started pouring good runes onto Bernard but I have always kept Wayne around. But now, hearing he is very versatile, makes me want to six star him and work to transmog him as soon as I can. Raid team comes first though, haha. Good vid Bagel tho.
pointless debuffs? def break on s1 is huge in any format of the game. I wouldnt say hes good in AD but hes decent. Hes really good in siege though in the 4* and below towers.
defence break is still huge on s1 and since he deals max hp damage he deals pretty good damage when applied. Yes he is commonly used with early-game monsters but like I said hes still an extremely strong unit in gw and siege, specifically in the 4* tower. I'm not trying to argue his viability in arena defence but to deny is viability in the other game-modes is ridiculous. You are making it sound like hes only an ok early game monster but he does have extremely useful late-game qualities in raids, GWD and siege. If you can safely lushen a high level groggo darion rina/molly/khmun in guild siege then more power to you.
how is that ridiculous? he makes the bruisers that he is paired with even stronger? He makes them tankier and allows them to deal even more damage due to his defence break whilst also dealing respectable damage himself. Even if you are forced to use a different composition due to these other high power bruisers you then have to take into consideration he can attack any elemental monster if you arent running a dark unit and then the other units he is paired with have a free target to attack once he lands his defence break. He can turn a good defence into a great defence, that could be the difference between how much defence wins you get in a siege or gw which are things that definitely matter. Hes also a soft molong counter who is arguably the best elemental PVP monster right now Also to your second argument, if you're using him in dungeons early game in a team like Vero shannon bernard bella darion. You most likely dont have the rune quality to consistently apply debuffs AND survive which is why many people recommend him for your FIRST GB10 team. Just having him in your team significantly lowers the rune requirement to run a safe GB10 team. Your original argument is that he isnt versatile, yet he can be used in a multitude of ways at all stages of the game. He helps you break into the early dungeons then you can use him in raids and end-game pvp. Theres almost always a stage in the game where he can be useful. I'm simply refuting your original notion where you implied that he has no use in any of the areas that OP listed. He may not be simultaneously in all those game modes but he can certainly be used in a majority of those depending on which part of the game you are in.
^ Literally that. He's one of the most diverse mons in the game, not just most diverse nat 3's. He's usable from early game to end game, and can be used in almost every context. Sure he's not the best mon at any of that, but quality is independent of diversity. He is serviceable in almost every aspect of the game.
Peavii gb10 he drastically lowers the rune requirements, which is the exact reason why people fuse Vero for it. Toan you can beat with a starter gb10 team, so yes he works. R5 he's great, same reason people use Dias. AD he's usable to discourage cleaves and lushen teams. GW defense he's slightly more viable, and siege he's great for defense. This isn't about the best monsters, its about the most versatile monsters. Darion is serviceable in almost all aspects of the game.
bella is good for necro because he's a light tank, and thus takes all the damage from dark monsters. one of the hard things about necro is surviving the middle boss, and he gives it so much stability plus the extra heal and 100% def break. personally i use amarna(cuz of the multi hits) and my necro run almost never fails, but bella and darion do similar jobs of adding so much stability.
Considering I have used Basalt everywhere except for live Arena which I don't do anyway I have to somewhat agree with him being on this list I'd be hard-pressed to actually find another way to rank these guys good job and I suppose I'll see you in the next video
I knew it! Wayne is good, my initial reason to build him only as substitute for Bernard in guild wars/siege just in case my Bernard died. I have a plan to use him as a comp leader with Theomars/Julie + Megan/Shannon.
I always knew that Mantura was sick on despair runes but, since watching this video, I've decided to make him my next 6*. The number one was kinda surprising but I saw 2 thru 5 coming.
I think Mao is missing at least in the honorable mentions. I use my Mao in my Dragons and Giants teams as well as for water and fire Rift Beast plus in GW and GS offence because he deals a good amount of damage and heals every attack monster full due to his attack scaling.
I expected Mav in there somewhere to be honest even if it was the just missed. Tien Qin can be used in DB10, GB10, TOA, TOAH, all PVP, Rifts and raids. He should have made the list again probably in the 10+ range. In most cases you need to be in transition between needing a full healer and not needing a healer but he is capable in all of them.
what about lyn. isn't she good for most bosses, i.e. giants, dragons, toa, toah and elemental dungeons. I'm surprised she didn't at least get a mention
Yaku in Necro: He would be used as a damage dealer after the shield goes down. Dots+Max HP damage+Ignore Defense can chunk down the Ancient Lich very fast. The Problem: RNG skill 3. Could deal big damage, or meh damage. Additionally, if hes stolen, you have to pray he doesnt snipe one of your monsters. On a side note, I wonder how fast he could nuke down the Ancient Lich King. Video Idea maybe?
great vid !!! i was thinking that u could do a seris where u go on people account and offer advise on how to improve and the quickest way to progress. so i am stuck on what to do next
I loved this vid. I also know that you might have this idea already, but what about a Nat5 version of this, cus lets be honest, most of them were made for RTA or at least are good there, and for early gamers when someone gets a Leo and just stand like :v after seeing that they can't use it nowhere (at least my opinion, and im aware leo can be good in GW)
curious why you never count scenario into these lists i mean leveling your mons is a huge part of the game and theres a few nat3s that can do some cool stuff there. vamp (copper) in aiden hell for example
Where is my Mao? :O The Water Drunken Master was my 3rd 6* and today (with 25 6*) I don't regret building him early: he has been in my first safe GB10 and DB10 teams, still using him in some Toa / ToaH stage paired with Hwadam (any reviver is good to make him survive with full damage), early PvP (ignore defense 1st skill, heal on atk + resistance buff on 2nd and speed buff + atk bar boost + damage on 3rd), good for R3/4 and can be an alternative to Hwahee in beasts. Also he have low rune requirements and easy (but required) skillups.
I called wayne first place from the beggining of the vid, just cause y use him and i replaced mi bernard with him because he is a more solid version. 1 les base speed, but the option to one shot the enemys on his kit, with ignore def or 50 thousand shots on second skills. Beautiful unit, thks for giving him first place jew!
Hahahahaha and I was told Wayne wasn't good lol. I runed him violent and focus so I can get the most out of him. My first 5 star monster and hopefully making him even better
Jew!
Why would you do that to strawberry cupcakes! I cant believe you turn them into Strawberry Cream Pies.
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I've been a Wayne believer for a couple of years, with good runes his third skill hits like a drunken stepdad! More versatility then Bella? Bella heals, strips, breaks, and buffs att bar a absolute swiss army monster.
Sure later game aoe becomes a little more important but so much time is spent needing his tools you use him on everything. I used him in Necro with Colleen because I had him on fast vio for extra heals and a fast armor break on captured mons and as many often do don't forget the att bar buff in a dungeon that limits speed. While everyone was bitching about a solid Necro team I had one and Bella kept it 100% only months after starting the game. I've seen Bella tanking front line in raids maybe not R5 but up until. Absolutely a necessity on Dragons and Giants till you start building speed teams. I'm sorry Wayne doesn't come even close to this versatility.
There's a point Bella doesn't garner your best runes but you can be damned sure Wayne hits that ceiling long before Bella.
Can we get a most versatile nat 1 list please
yeah man like nat 3 way too unobtainable and p2w
slimes are op
Devilmon is great, you can feed him to lots of 5 stars, and some 4 stars, but he's not versatile because you wouldn't feed him to anything less than a 4 star.
BUT...you can feed a water sandman to like, everything- even to a devilmon if you're bored. Sandman is def most versatile food monster. You get one from an unknown scroll and you're like, cool, more crap. But in a good, "How fast can I feed this crap and try to summon something better" sort of way.
Wow, great point! I totally forgot the 2* silver drops in scenario. So omitting those, *punches numbers frantically in calculator* and omitting one stars that don't drop in dungeons (because they are less common) *wipes away sweat while double checking charts and graphs* and then narrowing the field down to the least desirable element (fire) the new clear winner is... FIRE SLIME. Get into Mt. Siz and start farming!
Holy shit I haven’t watched this yet but I’m just glad you made another top 10 video. I understand you can’t be making a top 10 video every week, but I still think you should revamp most your top tens, there’s newer monsters and with patch buffs on a lot of monsters in general. It’s what first made me even watch you in the first place and I think a lot of people would love them too. Please make more
It's nice to see you back with these kind of videos. Helps a lot the community. Keep it up Jewdaddy!
I love your videos, continue to make more summoners war! I put you thumbs for each of them. You are a good guy.
I hope people will stay on summoners war, it's a great mobile game that has a lot of potential, with many updates
I have only 2 five stars in 1 year of intensive play only, I hope to have more ...
Otherwise, it may be that the game will reach a bigger dimension with big competitions, cash prize with competitive players like on other games like Cs go or Leage of legend
Have fun on the game
Long live summoners war and long live the community and long live the United States
peace!
your videos have helped me sort out my gameplay and monster (the way i use them. keeping feeding ect.) cheers my dude keep up the good work
i don't know if it was the demise of SMS that made you step up your game but this is one of the best videos you've done in some time. made me take a look at several units i have ignored.
Glad to see Loren on this list she’s great in all giants dragons necro!! She’s incredible if you don’t have hwa for r5! So many rebuffs!
I love my Wayne in Necro, with his second skill, he can solo strip the shield, leaving the boss wide open for the rest of the team.
Wow been a long time since I heard someone call out that Educate and Dominate series. Great video, JB. Very intriguing idea.
be honest you were playing with that megaphone for hours weren't you?
lol
I admire your dedication. I wish I could find something that I could invest a lot of time into it while also enjoying it.
i've been playing SW for 3 years, never missed a monthly LD or event LD, i still dont have basalt nor mantura nor thrain.....
I love your videos man, so original ! keep up the good work.
I definitely agree with most of this list, however I feel like Darion and even Lyn deserve a spot in there. Darion can quite literally be used anywhere in the game, and Lyn too except for AD, GWD and Necro
One year ago, I thought Wayne was far better than Bernard. Made him one of my first *5s on my main. Realized I needed Bernard and started pouring good runes onto Bernard but I have always kept Wayne around. But now, hearing he is very versatile, makes me want to six star him and work to transmog him as soon as I can. Raid team comes first though, haha.
Good vid Bagel tho.
Yeah, Wayne. I love him. I use him in combo with taor and it works sooo good.
Can you try making a video try to see what is the best nat5
Great video!
Love the *hard* effort you have put in.
What about Darion? GB10, DB10, Could work on necro, R5, AD, GWD, Siege. Poor Darion :(
Pan Banan nat 2
pointless debuffs? def break on s1 is huge in any format of the game. I wouldnt say hes good in AD but hes decent. Hes really good in siege though in the 4* and below towers.
defence break is still huge on s1 and since he deals max hp damage he deals pretty good damage when applied. Yes he is commonly used with early-game monsters but like I said hes still an extremely strong unit in gw and siege, specifically in the 4* tower. I'm not trying to argue his viability in arena defence but to deny is viability in the other game-modes is ridiculous. You are making it sound like hes only an ok early game monster but he does have extremely useful late-game qualities in raids, GWD and siege. If you can safely lushen a high level groggo darion rina/molly/khmun in guild siege then more power to you.
how is that ridiculous? he makes the bruisers that he is paired with even stronger? He makes them tankier and allows them to deal even more damage due to his defence break whilst also dealing respectable damage himself. Even if you are forced to use a different composition due to these other high power bruisers you then have to take into consideration he can attack any elemental monster if you arent running a dark unit and then the other units he is paired with have a free target to attack once he lands his defence break. He can turn a good defence into a great defence, that could be the difference between how much defence wins you get in a siege or gw which are things that definitely matter. Hes also a soft molong counter who is arguably the best elemental PVP monster right now
Also to your second argument, if you're using him in dungeons early game in a team like Vero shannon bernard bella darion. You most likely dont have the rune quality to consistently apply debuffs AND survive which is why many people recommend him for your FIRST GB10 team. Just having him in your team significantly lowers the rune requirement to run a safe GB10 team.
Your original argument is that he isnt versatile, yet he can be used in a multitude of ways at all stages of the game. He helps you break into the early dungeons then you can use him in raids and end-game pvp. Theres almost always a stage in the game where he can be useful. I'm simply refuting your original notion where you implied that he has no use in any of the areas that OP listed. He may not be simultaneously in all those game modes but he can certainly be used in a majority of those depending on which part of the game you are in.
^ Literally that. He's one of the most diverse mons in the game, not just most diverse nat 3's. He's usable from early game to end game, and can be used in almost every context. Sure he's not the best mon at any of that, but quality is independent of diversity. He is serviceable in almost every aspect of the game.
The best Summoners War show on the internet is clearly the Malaka Show !
No darion? Feel he could get a mention at least haha
Darion is overrated
Peavii gb10 he drastically lowers the rune requirements, which is the exact reason why people fuse Vero for it. Toan you can beat with a starter gb10 team, so yes he works. R5 he's great, same reason people use Dias. AD he's usable to discourage cleaves and lushen teams. GW defense he's slightly more viable, and siege he's great for defense.
This isn't about the best monsters, its about the most versatile monsters. Darion is serviceable in almost all aspects of the game.
stuartc593 k
bella is good for necro because he's a light tank, and thus takes all the damage from dark monsters.
one of the hard things about necro is surviving the middle boss, and he gives it so much stability plus the extra heal and 100% def break.
personally i use amarna(cuz of the multi hits) and my necro run almost never fails, but bella and darion do similar jobs of adding so much stability.
I don't know if you were counting the elemental dungeons as well but Spectra has been pretty good to me in Wind B10 and water B10.
Considering I have used Basalt everywhere except for live Arena which I don't do anyway I have to somewhat agree with him being on this list I'd be hard-pressed to actually find another way to rank these guys good job and I suppose I'll see you in the next video
I knew it! Wayne is good, my initial reason to build him only as substitute for Bernard in guild wars/siege just in case my Bernard died. I have a plan to use him as a comp leader with Theomars/Julie + Megan/Shannon.
I always knew that Mantura was sick on despair runes but, since watching this video, I've decided to make him my next 6*. The number one was kinda surprising but I saw 2 thru 5 coming.
I think Mao is missing at least in the honorable mentions. I use my Mao in my Dragons and Giants teams as well as for water and fire Rift Beast plus in GW and GS offence because he deals a good amount of damage and heals every attack monster full due to his attack scaling.
Excellent video, do one about the bats 4 and natrs 5 as well.
Hello Bagel, with the release of the light Ifrit, will you be making a how to rune Ifrit video?
I expected Mav in there somewhere to be honest even if it was the just missed. Tien Qin can be used in DB10, GB10, TOA, TOAH, all PVP, Rifts and raids. He should have made the list again probably in the 10+ range. In most cases you need to be in transition between needing a full healer and not needing a healer but he is capable in all of them.
what about lyn. isn't she good for most bosses, i.e. giants, dragons, toa, toah and elemental dungeons. I'm surprised she didn't at least get a mention
nice video! pls do more top 10s they are always fun to watch :)
What about wind drunk master, he is my god, Huan is luv Huan is life
god is a drunk? that explains a lot
oof
don't oof me
pervert
He's a very underrated mon
LOL I love the megaphone dude!!! Do it in every video!!!
I built yaku really good and he's very versatile
Glad to see wayne get a little recognition. Lvl. 48 currently on my new account and i still use him lol.
Yaku in Necro: He would be used as a damage dealer after the shield goes down. Dots+Max HP damage+Ignore Defense can chunk down the Ancient Lich very fast.
The Problem: RNG skill 3. Could deal big damage, or meh damage. Additionally, if hes stolen, you have to pray he doesnt snipe one of your monsters.
On a side note, I wonder how fast he could nuke down the Ancient Lich King. Video Idea maybe?
Vigor... "you can do him in so many places" -Bagel
A little surprised you didn’t Mav on the list, but he may or may not have on your honorable mentions list.
great vid !!! i was thinking that u could do a seris where u go on people account and offer advise on how to improve and the quickest way to progress. so i am stuck on what to do next
I use Mantura over my Rica in of TOAH. Got to love that defence break, and strip.
I loved this vid. I also know that you might have this idea already, but what about a Nat5 version of this, cus lets be honest, most of them were made for RTA or at least are good there, and for early gamers when someone gets a Leo and just stand like :v after seeing that they can't use it nowhere (at least my opinion, and im aware leo can be good in GW)
Most versatile nat 5 is Jaara. Can do everything but sucks at all of it.
I understand what you meaaan, I got a Leo but I just managed to get GB10 recently, before that it was like.... How could I use that Leo my god
Do one for 4 stars if u wouldn't mind
“I think it’s kind of a stretch to use her in RTA”
Haha... not anymore
curious why you never count scenario into these lists i mean leveling your mons is a huge part of the game and theres a few nat3s that can do some cool stuff there. vamp (copper) in aiden hell for example
literally just rina that whole map
Love these kinds of videos
Jewbagel, if you make love to strawberry cupcakes, does that make them strawberry cream cupcakes?
Where is my Mao? :O
The Water Drunken Master was my 3rd 6* and today (with 25 6*) I don't regret building him early: he has been in my first safe GB10 and DB10 teams, still using him in some Toa / ToaH stage paired with Hwadam (any reviver is good to make him survive with full damage), early PvP (ignore defense 1st skill, heal on atk + resistance buff on 2nd and speed buff + atk bar boost + damage on 3rd), good for R3/4 and can be an alternative to Hwahee in beasts. Also he have low rune requirements and easy (but required) skillups.
mao is also one of my early 6*s
love that mon to pieces.
You should do this for nat4s and 5s too
next will be top 10 most versatile nat2 monster in summoners war ?
at what spot did darion end
I called wayne first place from the beggining of the vid, just cause y use him and i replaced mi bernard with him because he is a more solid version. 1 les base speed, but the option to one shot the enemys on his kit, with ignore def or 50 thousand shots on second skills. Beautiful unit, thks for giving him first place jew!
Oh man went to read description and had me rollin I guess I’m the only one who reads descriptions hahahaha.
I like strawberry cupcakes. Although i do not love them :-P
Could you give us the spreadsheet?
Hey Jew, what is YD talking about in his new video he just posted about verifying emails?
Tell Strawberry Cupcakes I said whaddup.
I want to you build your dhc progression. I want to see your peaks and your failings.
What are the stat requirements for Wayne to use in gb10, db10, and necro b10?
ah yes those moments when you're stuck on a deserted island and have to choose a monster for necro b10
you can bring anything to necro^^
i use 4 with triple-hit first skill + brandia(moves last) to nuke the boss ^_^
I hope he does this with 2, 4, and 5 star monsters
Lol and there’s me thinking Raoq was like the most awesome beast in the game I’ll still build a Raoq team just cos it’s awesome for multiple hits
I used to use bulldozer on my starter dragons team. Tried it as a joke but it worked pretty well tbh
Love Jamie, used to be part of my safe dragons team, just recently found a faster safe one.
Every time i see Bella on defense in conqueror level i say to myself "yeah, i can lushen that.".
Turns out that Bella is on nemesis and i loose.
Never going to eat strawberry cupcakes if they're made by you....
Ermeda(wind serpent) should have made the top 10 list. One of my favorite nat 3s to use in alot of places.
Yeah great...look at me. Never ever got a Basalt or Mantura...but hey...I've got multiple of their light buddies to feed to them if I ever get them :D
This sounds like a top ten Ld list for Nat 3s
no spoilers! love that jewbagel. good review on the monsters
Of this top 10 list I just didn't six'stared maxed skilled Loren (yet). The nº 1 is also better than bernie for World Boss.
Jew can you do top 15 or 10 most versatile nat four?
I feel Jamie (dark bounty hunter) should take Waynes place as #1. He can be used everywhere even r5.
I have used yaku with good success in necro when I first started it. Though he would kill something on my team a lot lol
I love Loren in toah 100, especially against the guy boss
I thought Darion was gonna be number, can't believe he wasn't on the list.
Hahahahaha and I was told Wayne wasn't good lol. I runed him violent and focus so I can get the most out of him. My first 5 star monster and hopefully making him even better
Cruzzin Gangsta5 focus? why?
What do you mean no one reads the description.
where was the light drunk on the list, I love my light drunk and I know he's useful in a lot of places.
I still feel like Zinc should make top 10. I used him in raid, gb10, db10, and hes good in arena offense, toa/toah. siege, not too sure.
Also Megan should be top 3
Do a series where you can only 6 star a limited number of monsters like 6-10 6 stars max
Where’s the Hathor video... need Hathor video...
Strawberry cupcake... good choice..
Fresh content, I feel thats something nobody made a video of :3 could you do the same with nat4?
Lol i was literally just looking for a how to rune megan and then she is in the thumbnail of your next video xD
I'd love to see one for nat 4,5, and 2
do top 10 most underrated monsters!
Good thing I kept Wayne! Still need to finish maxing his skills, tho...
petition to make number 15 burger king foot lettuce
Now we need a DHC version
Still never got a Basalt...I have 4 Marbles though 😠
Are top 10s back cuz we need it
Make a series with only the top 5-10 (your call) on the list :D
I really thought Darion and Shannon would have been in the list
Tbh, i liked Bernard More than spectra on db10, he doesnt need good rng, he provides alot of turns and he Is tanky enough to survive even as a 5* :)
pls make a beginner nb10 video :D
WHY DO YOU DO LOVE TO STRAWBERRY CUPCACKES ?!?
(btw i do that too 😉)