Jacaerys was a sweetheart for sensing how uncomfortable Helaena is and asking her to dance. That smile on her was one of the few genuine moments where something better could have borne out but my sweet summer child...
@@storiax9331 well, none of the infighting would have happened if they had listened to Otto when he suggested Rhaenyra's betrothal to Aegon. Aegon would have turned out a better person in Rhaenyra's company and her kids' legitimacy would not be questioned. Otto's decisions seem cold and calculating when you look at them short-term, but they are actually better for the realm in the long-run. Marrying Jace to Halaena could have healed the rivalry a little bit but still it would not snuff out the possibility of war, but an Aegon-Rhaenyra marriage would have made sure that there was no rivalry in the first place.
@@Emy-fv5ny It was Aemond's maiming that did it. Rhaenyra suggests they torture Aemond right after her kids gang up on him and slash his eye out, even though I am team Black, I don't blame Alicent for being resentful for nobody taking her side.
Despite Rhaenyra's children are labelled as bastards, they are good boys. They are well behave and they don't do scenes in public like Alicent's children. Rhaenyra did a good job educating them.
@@Asupernaruto1 they didn't? Remind me who was the what sneering like a lil rat on the dinner table when Aemond was minding his own business? You may be blind but I ain't.
Jacaerys Targaryen was the MVP of the dance of the dragons, everywhere he went people followed. The alliances he made endured even after his and his mothers dead. He still commanded respect from lord Stark even after the pact they made to marry Jace's first born daughter to Lord Cregan Stark's son and heir. That pact was null and void on account of Jace being dead. But lord Cregan Stark kept fighting in Rheanyra and Jace's name and I think that had alot to do with how lord Stark perceived Jacaerys Targaryen. If there ever was a king more deserving to sit on the iron throne it was him.
@margarethmichelina5146 The Hour of the Wolf. Really showcases how things could be if a Stark held all the power. But Starks would rather be in the North so once they believe their oaths are fulfilled and their duty is done, they give up that power and return north. House Stark is known for their honor to their oaths after all.
yep specially Luke laughing at Aemond remembering the days when they enjoy bullying at him....such well raised boy, sadly he will die by the hand of the one he laughed...
@@mikevertilus8913 and what about it? Viserys wasnt agood fighter either...Jacaerys woud have been agood king tho....100x better than psyhopath brothers Aegon and Aemond
@@HK-gm8pe Viscerys not being able to fight doesn’t matter because of he never had to go to war and physically fight. The boys are about to enter a civil war so now it does matter
I know Aemond is badass, but can we appreciate that even after Aemond proves he is stronger than Jacaerys, he still runs to fight him to protect his family’s honour.
@@yasmina3999yeah Viserys and Daemon never cared about their children . Viserys was a great King but terrible father and Daemon was a great warrior but a terrible person
@@lukasmadrid1945 the actor said that Vizzy loved his kids with Alicent too but he loved Rhaenyra more . But in the books he loved Helaena and the twins more then anything
@@Emy-fv5ny Okay, from your comments I guess you don't know what happens in the books. Jacaerys isn't a good husband lol, or at least not to Baela. He does Robb Stark and goes back on his word to marry someone else.
3:43 I love that even tho they aren't blood related, when Daemon got between them and signaled for him to stop, Jace took a step back. I know some people think it was out of fear/intimidation but I stand behind it just being that he respects the man who raised him and stands up for him as heir.
Didn't he watch how he spoke to daemon once saying "did you not hear what I said" to daemon when telling him his mother said no one should act unless she has given the command
Remember when they confronted Aemond after he "stole" Vhagar? Those girls are also involving in the fights too. Daemon trained his girls to be like him too.
@@margarethmichelina5146 he didn't "train" his girls to be like him too jeez. Their mother just died and aemond took her dragon so she hit in with rage and at the same time pain. Just like Jace and Luke did cause they were pissed. They are good kids. Or what, were you an angel in your childhood?
And that make them weak, especially when compare to Aemond, who is rival even Daemon, Aemond should have been king, he is the best of the young ones. And pls, they are no royal, they are bastard, they not even true dragon, they sitting on a dragon is an insult to Aegon the Conqueror. They are STRONG's boy. Lady Olenna said this to Dany one, "You are a dragon, be a dragon"
@@dreamer6870they're like ¼ Targaryens 😂😂 they have Arryn , Tully and of course Strong blood too 🤣🤣 they're like the most mixed persons in the whole ASOIAF universe
@@nicksmithnutmilk y los hijos de alicent son higtowers y los hightowers no tienen sangre de la vieja valiria ni los primeros hombres su madre alicent no tiene nada de sangre targaryen, los arryn y velaryon tienen sangre valiria, jace luke y joffrey son mas puros apesar de no tener rasgos valirios su madre es targaryen nieto de targaryen, los de alicent solo tienen un padre targaryen 🤣
I like Jace so much💝the adult actor for jace is cute and his acting is good. Especially in episode 10,the rage in him and his character seems to develop much. Wish they could make him a good warrior and wish he could be the king after Rhae but alas that's not going to happen🙃
1:56- 2:17 here we can see Jace had sort of a friendship with Aegon. They were probably the only children of Rhaenyra and Alicent who did not hate each other or saw as rivals, they had the most healthy relationship among them
I mean, he was bullied, and then he lost his eye to one of those kids, do you really expect him to love those bastards? Aegon is a cunt, but Helaena is the sweetest Targ and Aemond is basically a young Daemon 2.0, brash and agressive but loves his family, maybe even more than Daemon
I just love how team black closes their eyes in lot of the scenes so they can think they're the good guys lol. Also Luce was never reprimanded nor even apologized for scarring and taking Aemond's eye. After that Luce mocks him across the dinner table years later when he was minding his own business lol, they're not evil, but "good" is questionable.
@@Ilive_420 You say it like Aemond didn't undergo bad parenting and being neglected so he lashed out by not only stealing a dragon from the Velayrons' recently deceased rider but is the agitator of their big fight and was about to rock his nephews. The knife may have been overkill but it's justifiable self defense, Jace was protecting his kin. The fight is to be blamed on both sides but if Aemond was raised right then he would have gotten over his bullying instead of choosing the wrong time to tame a dragon that wasn't his and taunting kids to get back at them. None of this would've happened if Otto and Alicent weren't so focused on Aegon and making him the heir.
@@ythandlename He never "stole" a dragon. That alone shows you know nothing. You can't steal a dragon. Dragon is not a property. Nor steal Rhaena's chance to claim him, because dragons aren't heirlooms. They aren't passed on by their parents. If that were the case then Baela stole Vhagar as well. And no, I don't make it sound like Aemond didn't have bad parents, Viserys was terrible, was more angry at him over calling bastards bastards than him being maimed. And claiming Vhagar was not him lashing out because of bad parenting, but because of the bullying he got because he lacked a dragon. Team black closing their eyes. You're just proving my point, you realize that? "It's justifiable self-defence" it was Aemond who was jumped and beaten to ground by 4 kids. The dagger wasn't needed or defense, Aemond was already incapacitated and let go of Jace by getting dirt thrown in his face. "He would've gotten over his bullying" that is so disgusting and ignorant. Your whole comment is pure victim blaming lmao. Y'all will make up bs to make victim look bad for standing up for themselves, rather than hold the perpetrators accountable just because it doesn't fit your "team black = saint" view.
Aemond got hit first and lost an eye...after taking vaghar because he was being bullied by his cousins for not having a dragon. I don't justify what he did to lucerys (when he killed him) But what I'm trying to say is how curious it is that making constant jokes to your cousin can end in sad events
I wish Harwin had never died. Younger Jace always found comfort and safety around his dad even though he didn't know the exact truth.. blood calls to blood, I guess.
Sorry, but no. The perfect one for him is without a doubt Baela. Their bond goes beyond this episode and it actually began the day of Laena's funeral. They faced trauma together. They faced confusion and heartbreak together. Baela also has the strength to give him a swift kick in the pants when he's angry or indecisive. She's ride or die and has the makings of a great warrior and Queen due to her time spent with Rhaenys as she literally helped and watched her grandmother rule Driftmark in Corlys' stead. Baela was there for six years.
I read some of Jace's actions during the Dance of Dragons. Dude was the morale booster of the Blacks. When he died, alot of them lost heart. I'm not sure if the show will follow the Dance 100% but I wonder if they'll have Jace survive or die how he did
2:43 you'll notice that in his small lisp when mentioning Aegon he really doesn't care about him and he really would have no problem killing but when he gulped and mentioned Aemond, he new that he was someone he really didn't want on his bad side. Sure luke took his eye and both cousins and nephews beat him up for taking vhagar but considering that other than daemon, Aemond is the last targarian anyone ever wants to be enemies with, you wouldn't blame him for being afraid of him...
Why these Strong boys are always shown weak, getting pwned by Aemond or Aegon. And the way Jace dies ( i read it on wiki which should be as per the books ) is just pure stupidity hope the show does him some justice.
I'm not justifying the greens,but in that cooked pig scene I was completely on Aemond's side even though I don't like him because that little punk Luke was definitely asking for it. I felt bad for Jace though.
@@shamcaster6087 I'm still not sure why he was laughing in the yard and court scene he seemed shy and reserved but here he's laughing at his scarier bigger uncle.....
@@lonemotheo1964 In dinner scene he knew his ass is safe because Daemon was there.And Daemon always got their back (specially after that throne room scene) so he became cocky and thought Aemond would just suck it up without making a scene.Specially in front of Daemon.He didn't think Aemond would pull some shit like that.
fabien frankel didn’t dismiss the idea that jace is criston’s son and avoided the question. I’m standing by this theory till the end lol until the show directly refutes it. don’t care what anyone argues. this would not be the first time the show has misled the audience into believing someone is a character’s child when they are not (aka JON SNOW).
@@qsvywadwoawhzwd9g7waores87 they are not following a strict timeline and I would bet they would do something like this. GoT never cared about timelines too. let’s see lol
@@gee2541 It would not make sense because Rhaenyra did not love Criston and therefore would never risk having his child. The only reason y'all hold on to this theory is because the actors look similar.
Are you kidding? No bully is nice and honorable. Bullies are the lowest part of humanity. Now I don't know basically anything about this character, because I don't watch the show, but I stumbled upon this comment, and I could not stop myself from replying, because bullying is a horrible crime and is a form of abuse, and there can't be such thing as nice and honorable bully. And from my standpoint it doesn't really matter what kind of character he is. The first you said about him, or the other two. But I'm sure, the two together don't exist.
@@reginaroseblack5849 completely understandable response, but trust me, there are people who watch the show that love Rhaenyra so much that they are willing to completely ignore his bullying aspects just because he grew up to be a respectful guy. Also, the kid he bullied and blinded in one eye is now objectively better than him at everything and is more respected than him
@@reginaroseblack5849 Also, GRRM intentionally does this, giving irredeemable flaws to characters that are supposed to be on the good side, and vice versa. People love Daemon for being a badass, and are shipping Daemon-Rhaenyra knowing that he groomed her when she was underaged, and the bullied kid (Aemond Targaryen) is in many ways a much better person than anyone on the "good side" and he is supposed to be the future villain of the story. There are people who say he deserved to be bullied and had his eye taken away for calling this guy a bastard (which he is). GRRM likes to bring out the biased nature of humanity in his fanbase this way. Just look at the other comments here, praising him and Daemon, you get the point.
@@atro-city Oh, okay. I understand now. It makes sense this way. It surely sounds an inetresting take on things. I'm not very familiar with GRRM's work, I saw fanvideos from both GOT and HOTD, but I never started to watch either of the shows, because of violence and the nudity. These may seem weird reasons, but the nudity bothers me because of me beinga Christian and too much violence makes me feel uncomfortable. But I believe these shows are worth watching otherwise. And yes, I've seen comments praising him, that's also why I didn't really understand your comment. But now it's clear. It sounds a bit weird that the good ones get irrdeemable flaws and also the other way around with the bad ones, but surely it's interesting. And thank you for your answers and explaining things to me.
@@atro-city Jace did not blind Aemond, that was Luke. Jace was about to get his head smashed in, lol. Also, praising him for the man he becamse is not that unreasonable, he's genuinely one of the only good guys in the entire Dance.
Ok so. Here we have: -Viserys: The grandfather and patriarch. The loving granfather who hates seeing his family with inner fights - Alicent: That younger wife and evil stepmother who also had his own children - Otto: The in-law who hates family gatherings but still attends without complaint - Rhaenyra: the dear and only daughter who dislikes those gatherings but keeps attending because she loves her father - Daemon: The uncle who gets along with most of his family but despises his in-laws - Aegon: The oldest of all the grandsons, yet the most inmature and childish - Aemond: The second older grandson who gets amused by provoking his cousins and fighting them - Luke: The shy, yet smart grandson who will receive a big amount of support in his professional life - Jace: The kind and most polite of all the grandsons - Baela: The granddaughter who acts mature - Helaena: The antisocial granddaughter whose hobbies are kinda weird
Viserys: the father that badly neglected Aegon, Aemond, Helaena and Daeron. Alicent: woman that after being lied to by her friend that swore on her dead mother and having done her duty and cared for Viserys, keeps getting the end of the shortstick. Otto: horrible man that manipulated everyone. Rhaenyra: who gets to have everything despite not doing her duty and lying to everyone, including her father. Daemon: a groomer that killed his first wife, doesn't take care of his daughters much. Aegon: who's a horrid man and a warning in itself. Good tactician. Aemond: who gets victim blamed by dumb fans that think being provoked over dinner table and having none of it is actually him provoking. Luke: innocent looking boy, but was never reprimanded nor made to apologize for hurting Aemond forever. Gets amused by mocking Aemond who minds his own business at dinner table. Jace: worthy of being a king in moral and duty sense, but not by claim. Baela and Rhaena: badasses that truly deserve the throne, by claim and morality. Helaena: the Dreamer who's badly neglected by her father, that could prevent the war if only he spent some time with her and realized she has powers he always wanted.
They’re good kids. Kind of ironic. Alicent is a good person but raised horrible children. Rhaenyra is deeply flawed but raised very good children. If only Alicent could mother those three as the heirs but sadly no luck.
Nah, only Aegon is a cunt. Aemond is basically a young Daemon 2.0, brash and impulsive but loves his family, while both Helaena and Daeron (Alicent third son, he will appear on season 2) are the sweetest Targs alive
@@nicolas0402 I agree Aemond and Daemon have redeemable qualities but they’re terrible people. Daemon has murdered multiple times to get himself ahead including his own wife. And Aemond has also now murdered poor Lucaerys
@@cald1421 daemon killing his wife is a show invention. in the book when she dies, he's off fighting in the stepstones and it takes rhea days to die and she's conscious during it making it highly unlikely daemon killed her
@@Tsukiakari-qb3tk ok the show is also nicer to him by changing his cold blooded murder of Laenor into some kind of pardon. But even then some innocent servant boy was killed. So…
It's more about Viserys and Otto I think. Otto physically harmed Aegon (and manipulated Alicent) and Viserys neglected them all very badly. He was more angry at Aemond calling them bastards (which they are, everyone knows), than Luce maiming Aemond forever. He didn't even reprimand him lmfao. Just "yea let's make amends and forget about this aight?" Aemond calls them bastards "WhO tOlD yOu ThEsE SlAndEroUS LieS??!?"
the show did not give justice to these 2 characters. they are raised well by there parents and they are good children unlike aegon and aemond. there characters are evil and are given most detail and attention
@@curtisdunn2909 I think Tommen did pretty well considering his age and the amount of pressure that was dumped on his shoulders after Joffrey's passing
So, this part kinda annoyed me. How do they not know Valyrian? It's supposed to be their native language, and the Common Tongue of Westeros only their second language.
Harry Collett is 5 11, why does he look so much shorter than everyone? Like at 1:41 Matt Smith is 6 0 only 1 inch taller in real life but in that shot he looks at least 6 inches taller. Weird.
To deliberately make himself look younger or “weaker”, maybe? I’m presuming he survives this series, so he might look taller in the second series as his character develops.
I have a crush on Aemond so I am biased in my dislike of the strong bastards. But they are well behaved. They didn't really give them personalities or appeal. They're just there. I felt more sad for lukes dragon. I didn't want Luke to die but I was like NOOOO not the dragon 😭
That's kind of how Robb Stark was in season 1. Just there without alot of personality. But then Robb became my favorite character. Also I don't care about the dumb dragon, it was sad that a child died who was doing nothing but being a messenger.
Jace would have been the second coming of Jaehaerys. Yes, his features would calls to murmurs about his lineage, but he literally got Arrax. Doesnt get anymore Targaryen than that. (Reminds me of that one time the old king scare away someone just by feeding Vermithor) (spoiler alert) I cant wait to see how theyre gonna handle Sara snow in the upcoming season. She is pretty much inconsequential, so scraping her make sense especially after estabilishing how upright Jace is. Then again this show is full of boy meet girl, sleeps together, forget concequences (robb stark, jon snow). She could be the first time Jace choose something for himself instead of his duties, or the power of being, even contested, Prince of Dragonstone.
I can’t believe they made the strong boys so lanky and scrawny looking. Harwin was a sturdy hearty man with a big body mass and tall. I would have never pictured his sons like this. They seem so short and small for their age. The way Aemond was able to push jace away was comical. The way they look u wouldn’t think they could win any fight let alone one with Alicent’s kids that have been trained with one of best swordsman and fighters at this time. They should have made it look somewhat even imo. I know they are still a bit young but jace the oldest is supposed to be like 19 maybe 20, at that age ur not going to have much more growing and definitely not any big growth Spurts that add height and mass. They looked heartier when they were younger. It just makes no sense why they would depict them this way story wise, because it doesn’t come out to a very compelling story knowing how it ends the first thing that comes into my mind was like well yeah of course they lost against Allison‘s kids.
Why it makes sense is that they are spoiled and coddled like their mother. Relying on the King and Daemon to defend them. Judging from Luke’s smirking at Aemond, they also seem to lack awareness that a war is even coming. She hasn’t been training them and Daemon barely pays attention to his own daughters, it makes sense he’s neglected to teach his stepsons how to fight. It also makes perfect sense Aemond who got maimed and had no backup from the King would see himself as having to protect himself, mom, and brother alone. He’s bigger because he took training seriously and Aegon is lazy so he’s basically stopped growing
@@Bepzinol nope if u watch the inside the episode they say all the kids are around 21-17 age rage so jace will be like 19 not 14 and Aemond would be like 20 with Aegon being the oldest at 21
@@tommyp.7108 ur so right he is younger then her Well then idk what the show runners are thinking cuz in the inside episode 9 clip they run after the show they say all the kids are considered “adults” now not “young adults” and that they are all between the ages 21-17 That’s why I guessed at some ages in that rage cuz it seems to me that Joffrey would be around 17 since he was the youngest in her first marriage
Jacaerys was a sweetheart for sensing how uncomfortable Helaena is and asking her to dance. That smile on her was one of the few genuine moments where something better could have borne out but my sweet summer child...
He did that too get back at Aegon and no other reason
@@imrulfarhanpritom6864 he also was showing aegon how a woman should be treated
@@storiax9331 well, none of the infighting would have happened if they had listened to Otto when he suggested Rhaenyra's betrothal to Aegon. Aegon would have turned out a better person in Rhaenyra's company and her kids' legitimacy would not be questioned. Otto's decisions seem cold and calculating when you look at them short-term, but they are actually better for the realm in the long-run. Marrying Jace to Halaena could have healed the rivalry a little bit but still it would not snuff out the possibility of war, but an Aegon-Rhaenyra marriage would have made sure that there was no rivalry in the first place.
It makes me think they could have been happy together if Alicent was not so resentful towards Rhaenyra.
@@Emy-fv5ny It was Aemond's maiming that did it. Rhaenyra suggests they torture Aemond right after her kids gang up on him and slash his eye out, even though I am team Black, I don't blame Alicent for being resentful for nobody taking her side.
Baela and Rhaena were so happy when Rhaenys announced their engagement, they knew they would be safe with Rhaenyra's sons, she raised them good
Yes. They were ok about it.
The kids aren’t the problem rhaenyra daemon allicent and Otto are
@@user-wy1et9dk9w The problem are the Hightowers and their ambition, specially Otto.
They can’t even protect themselves
@@NebulasOnyx bold of you to assume Baela and Rhaena need protection
Despite Rhaenyra's children are labelled as bastards, they are good boys. They are well behave and they don't do scenes in public like Alicent's children. Rhaenyra did a good job educating them.
"well behaved" my ass 🤣
@@ML-sv5ez Good for your ass... 😅
@@ML-sv5ez Well atleast better than Alicent’s sons
@@ML-sv5ez well at least Rhaenyra kids didn't start shit unlike Alicent's kids
@@Asupernaruto1 they didn't? Remind me who was the what sneering like a lil rat on the dinner table when Aemond was minding his own business? You may be blind but I ain't.
Jace was so smooth with that toast in turning that situation in not only making Heleana have fun, but he also made Aegon look like a child.
Rhaynera's children are a demonstration of how a Queen's/princess' son can be humble and well behavied.
Who’s the fathers of all her children
@@fellurs Harwin Strong.
They wasn't behaved. They were horrible to Aemond even though he is the Kings son. They should be looking up to aemond.
Lol dont make me laugh please. "Well behaved" 🤣
@@Themistocles30 They were kids...
Jace seems like the nicest kid
He has the likeness of a king, and he has the blood of Old Valyria and the First Men.
He would have been good king aswell, marriage between him and Helaena would have been amazing
Lol
@@HK-gm8pe a bastard with a royal blood hell nah Alicent legit for refusing it
@@AnkitSingh-cd7tw lol for real. These Black stans probably hated Ned Stark for calling out Cersei's bastards too. Disgusting
Rhaenyra raised her children so well. Well-behaved, humble, respectful, and loving to one another. Jace would have made the perfect Targaryen king.
Bro it's ok you're a black fan but pls stop capping with all these lies
@@AnkitSingh-cd7tw it’s true, though, Alicent’s children are mentally unstable…
so well behaved they attacked and blinded Aemond
@@l0necroc lol what. Aemond attacked them after he stole a dragon. Then got his eye slashed for the trouble
Yes. They were wonderful. Their "SEND US"🥺
Jacaerys Targaryen was the MVP of the dance of the dragons, everywhere he went people followed. The alliances he made endured even after his and his mothers dead. He still commanded respect from lord Stark even after the pact they made to marry Jace's first born daughter to Lord Cregan Stark's son and heir. That pact was null and void on account of Jace being dead. But lord Cregan Stark kept fighting in Rheanyra and Jace's name and I think that had alot to do with how lord Stark perceived Jacaerys Targaryen.
If there ever was a king more deserving to sit on the iron throne it was him.
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Jace and Cregan Stark are the real MVP of the events. Even Cregan later accompany Aegon III to rule the Westeros.
@margarethmichelina5146
The Hour of the Wolf. Really showcases how things could be if a Stark held all the power. But Starks would rather be in the North so once they believe their oaths are fulfilled and their duty is done, they give up that power and return north. House Stark is known for their honor to their oaths after all.
Jace has such First born energy. Working to be the best but ready for the smoke if you mess with him or his family.
he can't do shit, all he does is act tough but stumbles around after one shove. LMAO
Jace and Luke are such sweet boys. They were raised well by Rhaenyra. They remind me of the temper and demeanour of Jon Snow.
yep specially Luke laughing at Aemond remembering the days when they enjoy bullying at him....such well raised boy, sadly he will die by the hand of the one he laughed...
They both die without direct descendants . No children for them
Yes, Jon had also problems accepting he was insult as bastard, until Tyrion showed a new perpective of how to cope with that.
Jace and Luke should have just played along, once you show the bully he can’t hurt your feelings, he gives up
Such strong boys
Jace and Luke is always ready for the smoke. I respect it.
To bad they can't fight
@@mikevertilus8913 and what about it? Viserys wasnt agood fighter either...Jacaerys woud have been agood king tho....100x better than psyhopath brothers Aegon and Aemond
@@HK-gm8pe their inability to fight is why they never got the throne
@@HK-gm8pe Viscerys not being able to fight doesn’t matter because of he never had to go to war and physically fight. The boys are about to enter a civil war so now it does matter
Jace actually becomes a skilled fighter, I hope they show it in the show.
The quote from GoT "The seed is strong" goes to a whole new level in HotD
He's already my favorite kid
Don’t get too attached
Nah he and Lucerys are goofballs
yep...heand Helaena are my favorites , they would have been great king and queen as well
@@kylecason6680 that won’t be for a while yet though, end of season 2 or season 3 I imagine.
Well...
I like the juxtaposition of the relationship between the two heir, their mothers and their feelings towards their duty as heirs
I know Aemond is badass, but can we appreciate that even after Aemond proves he is stronger than Jacaerys, he still runs to fight him to protect his family’s honour.
I feel like Jace is the son Viserys had always wanted. He could be an amazing king. 😭
I think he confused between a son and a grandson in his dream
He had Daeron but didn't care about him too
@@yasmina3999yeah Viserys and Daemon never cared about their children . Viserys was a great King but terrible father and Daemon was a great warrior but a terrible person
@@nicksmithnutmilkhe was a terrible father w/ his kids by allicent but clearly loved reynerya dearly
@@lukasmadrid1945 the actor said that Vizzy loved his kids with Alicent too but he loved Rhaenyra more . But in the books he loved Helaena and the twins more then anything
Jace would've been jaeherys reborn.
He's perfect King material, just perfect.
Yes, he's not even a grown man and he already knows about his future duties and responsabilities as king. Damn war...
He would've been a good king. Rhaenyra raised them well.
Him and Helaena together could have stopped war. If only Alicent wasn't so bitter
@@bibimbap5917 Alicent's hate and resentment prevented her daughter to have a good husband.
@@Emy-fv5ny Okay, from your comments I guess you don't know what happens in the books.
Jacaerys isn't a good husband lol, or at least not to Baela. He does Robb Stark and goes back on his word to marry someone else.
3:43 I love that even tho they aren't blood related, when Daemon got between them and signaled for him to stop, Jace took a step back. I know some people think it was out of fear/intimidation but I stand behind it just being that he respects the man who raised him and stands up for him as heir.
They are blood related tho
Didn't he watch how he spoke to daemon once saying "did you not hear what I said" to daemon when telling him his mother said no one should act unless she has given the command
Helps when your step-dad is also your great-uncle
@@raymondhsu6407 Fair
Bittersweet: Jace and Helena would have been good together and brought peace but......Alicent refused!
Yes, Helaena would have been respected and happy with him. She seems so sad and lonely.
Daemon would never let that happen. He world probably kill Halaena and wed his daughter Rhaena to Jace instead
@@tyfoparalax8894 This I agree with
@@tyfoparalax8894 i doubt he would do that. He seems to care little about his daughters
Lol and Alicent would let a bastard marry her daughter naah she legit for refusing it..
3:42 we can see Baela warming up to fight. But Rhaena holds her back
You're right, you can even hear Rhaena say "Baela! Wait!"
well they are daemon's children
Remember when they confronted Aemond after he "stole" Vhagar? Those girls are also involving in the fights too. Daemon trained his girls to be like him too.
@@margarethmichelina5146 he didn't "train" his girls to be like him too jeez. Their mother just died and aemond took her dragon so she hit in with rage and at the same time pain. Just like Jace and Luke did cause they were pissed. They are good kids. Or what, were you an angel in your childhood?
I never noticed that before!!! Baela was READY!!
The way she says Jace and looks at Aemond. You could tell he terrified them cause of the history of him being bullied by them and the eye 😂😂
scared little shits
The actor in this role is cute as hell
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@@amany247 shut upppp
Despite being Targaryen Royals who ride Dragons they have no attitude or pride. So humble and gentle.
Rhaenyra raised them really well.
And that make them weak, especially when compare to Aemond, who is rival even Daemon, Aemond should have been king, he is the best of the young ones.
And pls, they are no royal, they are bastard, they not even true dragon, they sitting on a dragon is an insult to Aegon the Conqueror. They are STRONG's boy.
Lady Olenna said this to Dany one, "You are a dragon, be a dragon"
@@kimphuoc96 i think you're forgetting that, they are targaryens
@@dreamer6870they're like ¼ Targaryens 😂😂 they have Arryn , Tully and of course Strong blood too 🤣🤣 they're like the most mixed persons in the whole ASOIAF universe
@@nicksmithnutmilk y los hijos de alicent son higtowers y los hightowers no tienen sangre de la vieja valiria ni los primeros hombres su madre alicent no tiene nada de sangre targaryen, los arryn y velaryon tienen sangre valiria, jace luke y joffrey son mas puros apesar de no tener rasgos valirios su madre es targaryen nieto de targaryen, los de alicent solo tienen un padre targaryen 🤣
@@jesussideralcarrion2580english please
I just love how Helaena was clapping in 3:33 , SHE'S SO CUTEEEJJERPJVPERJVPRJV
I like Jace so much💝the adult actor for jace is cute and his acting is good. Especially in episode 10,the rage in him and his character seems to develop much. Wish they could make him a good warrior and wish he could be the king after Rhae but alas that's not going to happen🙃
Harry Collett ❤️
1:56- 2:17 here we can see Jace had sort of a friendship with Aegon. They were probably the only children of Rhaenyra and Alicent who did not hate each other or saw as rivals, they had the most healthy relationship among them
Yeah I assume because Aegon had no desire to be king, and was very much okay with Jace being the heir. And so they were no legit threat to each other.
Ah yes, what friendship is complete without offering to sleep with your’s bud’s fiancée
Helaena said marriage ain't shit and Jace really said: Girl that won't be me
I love him 🥰😤
Jace was a true prince and always so kind and classy.
I just love how people who had watch this scene still claim that Aemond was bullied. And Alicent's kids are good.
I mean, he was bullied, and then he lost his eye to one of those kids, do you really expect him to love those bastards?
Aegon is a cunt, but Helaena is the sweetest Targ and Aemond is basically a young Daemon 2.0, brash and agressive but loves his family, maybe even more than Daemon
I just love how team black closes their eyes in lot of the scenes so they can think they're the good guys lol.
Also Luce was never reprimanded nor even apologized for scarring and taking Aemond's eye. After that Luce mocks him across the dinner table years later when he was minding his own business lol, they're not evil, but "good" is questionable.
@@Ilive_420 You say it like Aemond didn't undergo bad parenting and being neglected so he lashed out by not only stealing a dragon from the Velayrons' recently deceased rider but is the agitator of their big fight and was about to rock his nephews. The knife may have been overkill but it's justifiable self defense, Jace was protecting his kin. The fight is to be blamed on both sides but if Aemond was raised right then he would have gotten over his bullying instead of choosing the wrong time to tame a dragon that wasn't his and taunting kids to get back at them. None of this would've happened if Otto and Alicent weren't so focused on Aegon and making him the heir.
@@ythandlename He never "stole" a dragon. That alone shows you know nothing.
You can't steal a dragon. Dragon is not a property. Nor steal Rhaena's chance to claim him, because dragons aren't heirlooms. They aren't passed on by their parents. If that were the case then Baela stole Vhagar as well.
And no, I don't make it sound like Aemond didn't have bad parents, Viserys was terrible, was more angry at him over calling bastards bastards than him being maimed.
And claiming Vhagar was not him lashing out because of bad parenting, but because of the bullying he got because he lacked a dragon.
Team black closing their eyes. You're just proving my point, you realize that?
"It's justifiable self-defence" it was Aemond who was jumped and beaten to ground by 4 kids.
The dagger wasn't needed or defense, Aemond was already incapacitated and let go of Jace by getting dirt thrown in his face.
"He would've gotten over his bullying" that is so disgusting and ignorant.
Your whole comment is pure victim blaming lmao.
Y'all will make up bs to make victim look bad for standing up for themselves, rather than hold the perpetrators accountable just because it doesn't fit your "team black = saint" view.
Aemond got hit first and lost an eye...after taking vaghar because he was being bullied by his cousins for not having a dragon.
I don't justify what he did to lucerys (when he killed him)
But what I'm trying to say is how curious it is that making constant jokes to your cousin can end in sad events
00:44 Those guys dueling I'm the Background are the twin brothers I'm the Kingsguard Arryk and Erryk that Queen Alicent was talking about earlier.
Whom of wich support rhaenyras claim
@@lukewillam8336 Erryk supports Rhaenyra and Arryk supports Alicent(according to the book)
spoiler…..
but in the book don’t these brothers fight to the death bc one tried to infiltrate where Rhaenyra was and the other one caught him?
@@tiosb4081 we don't really know who exactly Arryk was supposed to kill, but yes
@@xandroy1273 he was supposed to kill Rhaenyra's sons. Any one of them or all of them.
I wish Harwin had never died. Younger Jace always found comfort and safety around his dad even though he didn't know the exact truth.. blood calls to blood, I guess.
Good job 👏 with these clips
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he would have been a good king....with Helaena by his side....oh what could have been....
So many lives would have been saved if they had gotten married :'(
Sorry, but no. The perfect one for him is without a doubt Baela. Their bond goes beyond this episode and it actually began the day of Laena's funeral. They faced trauma together. They faced confusion and heartbreak together. Baela also has the strength to give him a swift kick in the pants when he's angry or indecisive. She's ride or die and has the makings of a great warrior and Queen due to her time spent with Rhaenys as she literally helped and watched her grandmother rule Driftmark in Corlys' stead. Baela was there for six years.
They are both handsome💕 I cried for luke😭
Sweet summer boy, he will be a winter man in season 2. I hope they do him justice, he has lots of great badass content.
I read some of Jace's actions during the Dance of Dragons. Dude was the morale booster of the Blacks. When he died, alot of them lost heart. I'm not sure if the show will follow the Dance 100% but I wonder if they'll have Jace survive or die how he did
jace reminds me of early jon snow, a sweet and humble boy :)
Such a strong boy…
Aemond is stronger
LOVE the blacks as much as I love the greens (well, almost as much). Rhaenyra raised these bois right.
His accent when he speaks Valyrian is Strong
Jace is a great character. I wish characters had better endings in the GoT universe lol
Nice kids. I sure hope Lucaerys doesn’t get gobbled up by some huge dragon or something
He looks like Enhypen’s Jake😂
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE THINKING THIS OH MY GOD
oh my god i literally said that yesterday like he had this enha sort of look to him and it was def some resemblance to jake!!!
@@jeonwonwoos right??🙄 ahahaha
I am not the only one yesss I’m not hallucinating 😅 even their names, Jace and Jake
okay but can we talk about his posture in a few scenes 💀
2:43 you'll notice that in his small lisp when mentioning Aegon he really doesn't care about him and he really would have no problem killing but when he gulped and mentioned Aemond, he new that he was someone he really didn't want on his bad side. Sure luke took his eye and both cousins and nephews beat him up for taking vhagar but considering that other than daemon, Aemond is the last targarian anyone ever wants to be enemies with, you wouldn't blame him for being afraid of him...
Right after this video ended played an ad giantly titled “Xtra Strong”
This actor was in Doolittle 🥺 he is so cutie ❤❤
Why these Strong boys are always shown weak, getting pwned by Aemond or Aegon. And the way Jace dies ( i read it on wiki which should be as per the books ) is just pure stupidity hope the show does him some justice.
I'm not justifying the greens,but in that cooked pig scene I was completely on Aemond's side even though I don't like him because that little punk Luke was definitely asking for it. I felt bad for Jace though.
Because they are lol
They are weak bastard boys who’s names aren’t in the history books
@@shamcaster6087 I'm still not sure why he was laughing in the yard and court scene he seemed shy and reserved but here he's laughing at his scarier bigger uncle.....
@@lonemotheo1964 In dinner scene he knew his ass is safe because Daemon was there.And Daemon always got their back (specially after that throne room scene) so he became cocky and thought Aemond would just suck it up without making a scene.Specially in front of Daemon.He didn't think Aemond would pull some shit like that.
People fighting in the comment section Blacks vs Greens when both sides are painted shades of grey. 😂
All humans are grey. But Team Black has less war crimes on their side and Rhaenyra is both rightful heir and more competent than Aegon.
I can't wait to see how he is next season! 🤣
Well,he's dead unfortunately😢
Daemon is such a badass..... i cant believe thats the same nerdy guy who played Dr Who. what a great actor
fabien frankel didn’t dismiss the idea that jace is criston’s son and avoided the question. I’m standing by this theory till the end lol until the show directly refutes it. don’t care what anyone argues. this would not be the first time the show has misled the audience into believing someone is a character’s child when they are not (aka JON SNOW).
he isn't. It literally would not make sense timeline wise.
@@qsvywadwoawhzwd9g7waores87 they are not following a strict timeline and I would bet they would do something like this. GoT never cared about timelines too. let’s see lol
i highly doubt it since it since it would not make sense but sure, we will see
@@qsvywadwoawhzwd9g7waores87 how would it not make sense? it would be shakespearean and that’s what GRRM called this series
@@gee2541 It would not make sense because Rhaenyra did not love Criston and therefore would never risk having his child. The only reason y'all hold on to this theory is because the actors look similar.
He would be the best king of his time, the only worthy and fair heir to the throne during the dance
What did ageon say to jace that caused him to stand up and hit his hands on the table
Something about Baela coming to him if Jace can't satisfy her.
He said Strong boys sense there’s bastards of Hardin strong. Not true borns. It was a way of insulting them of there true parentage.
@@arthurvane3901 That's what Aemond said
@@Argos-xb8ek oh ok thank you for telling me
What 😢
Who else thinks he looks like ENHYPEN’s Jake?
Bestie pls do Lucerys scenes I will love u forever
God's he was strong then!!!😂
Funny I was staring at the uploaders prof pic of Eren. Now I cannot unsee the resemblance between Eren Yeager and Harry Collett (who plays Jacaerys).
He gives off young James Potter vibes: bully but also nice and honorable.
Are you kidding? No bully is nice and honorable. Bullies are the lowest part of humanity. Now I don't know basically anything about this character, because I don't watch the show, but I stumbled upon this comment, and I could not stop myself from replying, because bullying is a horrible crime and is a form of abuse, and there can't be such thing as nice and honorable bully. And from my standpoint it doesn't really matter what kind of character he is. The first you said about him, or the other two. But I'm sure, the two together don't exist.
@@reginaroseblack5849 completely understandable response, but trust me, there are people who watch the show that love Rhaenyra so much that they are willing to completely ignore his bullying aspects just because he grew up to be a respectful guy.
Also, the kid he bullied and blinded in one eye is now objectively better than him at everything and is more respected than him
@@reginaroseblack5849 Also, GRRM intentionally does this, giving irredeemable flaws to characters that are supposed to be on the good side, and vice versa. People love Daemon for being a badass, and are shipping Daemon-Rhaenyra knowing that he groomed her when she was underaged, and the bullied kid (Aemond Targaryen) is in many ways a much better person than anyone on the "good side" and he is supposed to be the future villain of the story. There are people who say he deserved to be bullied and had his eye taken away for calling this guy a bastard (which he is). GRRM likes to bring out the biased nature of humanity in his fanbase this way. Just look at the other comments here, praising him and Daemon, you get the point.
@@atro-city Oh, okay. I understand now. It makes sense this way. It surely sounds an inetresting take on things. I'm not very familiar with GRRM's work, I saw fanvideos from both GOT and HOTD, but I never started to watch either of the shows, because of violence and the nudity. These may seem weird reasons, but the nudity bothers me because of me beinga Christian and too much violence makes me feel uncomfortable. But I believe these shows are worth watching otherwise. And yes, I've seen comments praising him, that's also why I didn't really understand your comment. But now it's clear. It sounds a bit weird that the good ones get irrdeemable flaws and also the other way around with the bad ones, but surely it's interesting. And thank you for your answers and explaining things to me.
@@atro-city Jace did not blind Aemond, that was Luke. Jace was about to get his head smashed in, lol. Also, praising him for the man he becamse is not that unreasonable, he's genuinely one of the only good guys in the entire Dance.
Ok so. Here we have:
-Viserys: The grandfather and patriarch. The loving granfather who hates seeing his family with inner fights
- Alicent: That younger wife and evil stepmother who also had his own children
- Otto: The in-law who hates family gatherings but still attends without complaint
- Rhaenyra: the dear and only daughter who dislikes those gatherings but keeps attending because she loves her father
- Daemon: The uncle who gets along with most of his family but despises his in-laws
- Aegon: The oldest of all the grandsons, yet the most inmature and childish
- Aemond: The second older grandson who gets amused by provoking his cousins and fighting them
- Luke: The shy, yet smart grandson who will receive a big amount of support in his professional life
- Jace: The kind and most polite of all the grandsons
- Baela: The granddaughter who acts mature
- Helaena: The antisocial granddaughter whose hobbies are kinda weird
Viserys: the father that badly neglected Aegon, Aemond, Helaena and Daeron.
Alicent: woman that after being lied to by her friend that swore on her dead mother and having done her duty and cared for Viserys, keeps getting the end of the shortstick.
Otto: horrible man that manipulated everyone.
Rhaenyra: who gets to have everything despite not doing her duty and lying to everyone, including her father.
Daemon: a groomer that killed his first wife, doesn't take care of his daughters much.
Aegon: who's a horrid man and a warning in itself. Good tactician.
Aemond: who gets victim blamed by dumb fans that think being provoked over dinner table and having none of it is actually him provoking.
Luke: innocent looking boy, but was never reprimanded nor made to apologize for hurting Aemond forever. Gets amused by mocking Aemond who minds his own business at dinner table.
Jace: worthy of being a king in moral and duty sense, but not by claim.
Baela and Rhaena: badasses that truly deserve the throne, by claim and morality.
Helaena: the Dreamer who's badly neglected by her father, that could prevent the war if only he spent some time with her and realized she has powers he always wanted.
They’re good kids. Kind of ironic. Alicent is a good person but raised horrible children. Rhaenyra is deeply flawed but raised very good children.
If only Alicent could mother those three as the heirs but sadly no luck.
Nah, only Aegon is a cunt. Aemond is basically a young Daemon 2.0, brash and impulsive but loves his family, while both Helaena and Daeron (Alicent third son, he will appear on season 2) are the sweetest Targs alive
@@nicolas0402 I agree Aemond and Daemon have redeemable qualities but they’re terrible people. Daemon has murdered multiple times to get himself ahead including his own wife. And Aemond has also now murdered poor Lucaerys
@@cald1421 daemon killing his wife is a show invention. in the book when she dies, he's off fighting in the stepstones and it takes rhea days to die and she's conscious during it making it highly unlikely daemon killed her
@@Tsukiakari-qb3tk ok the show is also nicer to him by changing his cold blooded murder of Laenor into some kind of pardon. But even then some innocent servant boy was killed. So…
It's more about Viserys and Otto I think.
Otto physically harmed Aegon (and manipulated Alicent) and Viserys neglected them all very badly.
He was more angry at Aemond calling them bastards (which they are, everyone knows), than Luce maiming Aemond forever. He didn't even reprimand him lmfao. Just "yea let's make amends and forget about this aight?"
Aemond calls them bastards "WhO tOlD yOu ThEsE SlAndEroUS LieS??!?"
the show did not give justice to these 2 characters. they are raised well by there parents and they are good children unlike aegon and aemond. there characters are evil and are given most detail and attention
Alicent's children have more than a few screws loose, barring Helaena and Daeron.
@@janellejulianajoy Daeron
Jace, at the dinner table, was 5 seconds away from calling Aegon out for being a window licker.
Did he whisper something to baela before asking Helaena to dance?
yes he said if you’ll excuse me
He reminds me of Tommen, mature and wise beyond his years.
Except Tommon didn't have a backbone.
@@curtisdunn2909 Well he was a kid so
@@curtisdunn2909 I think Tommen did pretty well considering his age and the amount of pressure that was dumped on his shoulders after Joffrey's passing
Aww i really wish i didnt know how it turns out for Helaena...
Young adult more like it lol, he looks so young. Jacaerys and Lucerys to me seem so much better than Aegon and Aemond.
So, this part kinda annoyed me. How do they not know Valyrian? It's supposed to be their native language, and the Common Tongue of Westeros only their second language.
Harry Collett is 5 11, why does he look so much shorter than everyone? Like at 1:41 Matt Smith is 6 0 only 1 inch taller in real life but in that shot he looks at least 6 inches taller. Weird.
To deliberately make himself look younger or “weaker”, maybe? I’m presuming he survives this series, so he might look taller in the second series as his character develops.
He’s standing behind Matt not beside him
@@phoenixrose1192 he doesnt survive the series.
@@gustavoritter7321 Series 1?
@@phoenixrose1192 i mean the dance of dragons in general. He survives season 1
Why am i the only one saying this
But jace is effing hot
I might be incredibly dumb, but I’m new to scene packs. How do I download this??
Lucerys Velaryon Scenes???
stan jace
Did Joffrey also shows up?
Yes
Haelena Targaryen reminds me of Sansa stark
He really is a handsome "strong" boy
To be fair they do look like strong boys.
I love this actor
I can’t be the only fool who keeps looking at him unable to concentrare cause I think he looks so much like Jake from Enhypen… am I??
Hes so fine and RESPECTFUL 📢📢📢📢🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊
I love jace man
It's sad knowing these boys wouldn't be like Jon Snow.
What if prince Jace never died and became king of the realm? 🤔
About how old are they supposed to be here?
Jace: 15/16
Luke: 14
Aemond: 16/17
Helaena: 19
Aegon: 20
Jake looks so much like ser Crispín.
Jace was born 2 years after crispin took Rheanyra's maidenhood.
@@yusufraage8554 They never confirmed that in the show.
@@gee2541I’m sure if Jace popped up 9 months after sex with Crispin. He would confirm it. Or is he too honourable?
@@yusufraage8554 Who would confirm it?
@@gee2541 Alicent would gladly confirm
I have a crush on Aemond so I am biased in my dislike of the strong bastards. But they are well behaved. They didn't really give them personalities or appeal. They're just there. I felt more sad for lukes dragon. I didn't want Luke to die but I was like NOOOO not the dragon 😭
I feel the same way
That's kind of how Robb Stark was in season 1. Just there without alot of personality. But then Robb became my favorite character.
Also I don't care about the dumb dragon, it was sad that a child died who was doing nothing but being a messenger.
I found them boring much preferred Aemond
I dont get people who crush on aemond when Jace is litterally right there. Even though hes a bastard hes the better targeryen in my opinion🙄
What a Strong Boy
Who is their father ? Strong?
They look as him
Jace would have been the second coming of Jaehaerys. Yes, his features would calls to murmurs about his lineage, but he literally got Arrax. Doesnt get anymore Targaryen than that. (Reminds me of that one time the old king scare away someone just by feeding Vermithor) (spoiler alert) I cant wait to see how theyre gonna handle Sara snow in the upcoming season. She is pretty much inconsequential, so scraping her make sense especially after estabilishing how upright Jace is. Then again this show is full of boy meet girl, sleeps together, forget concequences (robb stark, jon snow). She could be the first time Jace choose something for himself instead of his duties, or the power of being, even contested, Prince of Dragonstone.
Jacaerys Strong* or Jacaerys snow
Hey can u do a logo less for Luke and aegon 2??
Why does he walk around like he has neck problems
He has scoliosis
@@malcolm7447 irl?
I can’t believe they made the strong boys so lanky and scrawny looking. Harwin was a sturdy hearty man with a big body mass and tall. I would have never pictured his sons like this. They seem so short and small for their age. The way Aemond was able to push jace away was comical. The way they look u wouldn’t think they could win any fight let alone one with Alicent’s kids that have been trained with one of best swordsman and fighters at this time. They should have made it look somewhat even imo. I know they are still a bit young but jace the oldest is supposed to be like 19 maybe 20, at that age ur not going to have much more growing and definitely not any big growth Spurts that add height and mass. They looked heartier when they were younger. It just makes no sense why they would depict them this way story wise, because it doesn’t come out to a very compelling story knowing how it ends the first thing that comes into my mind was like well yeah of course they lost against Allison‘s kids.
Idk it too well but i saw someone say that aemond is meant to be like 18, so jace is probably like 16 and luke 14
Why it makes sense is that they are spoiled and coddled like their mother. Relying on the King and Daemon to defend them. Judging from Luke’s smirking at Aemond, they also seem to lack awareness that a war is even coming. She hasn’t been training them and Daemon barely pays attention to his own daughters, it makes sense he’s neglected to teach his stepsons how to fight. It also makes perfect sense Aemond who got maimed and had no backup from the King would see himself as having to protect himself, mom, and brother alone. He’s bigger because he took training seriously and Aegon is lazy so he’s basically stopped growing
@@Bepzinol nope if u watch the inside the episode they say all the kids are around 21-17 age rage so jace will be like 19 not 14 and Aemond would be like 20 with Aegon being the oldest at 21
@@lizzystar5346 Halaena is older than Aemond, and if Aegon is 21, Aemond wouldn't be 20.
@@tommyp.7108 ur so right he is younger then her
Well then idk what the show runners are thinking cuz in the inside episode 9 clip they run after the show they say all the kids are considered “adults” now not “young adults” and that they are all between the ages 21-17
That’s why I guessed at some ages in that rage cuz it seems to me that Joffrey would be around 17 since he was the youngest in her first marriage
It should be Jace and Helaena together..
I like Jace
Bella THORNE ???
He thought he was strong but clearly he’s not lol
Ep 10 please
Someone had to do this.
Jace❤️
Jace 🥰🥰🥰