Very sad statistics: Canada: 1 of 14 trolleybus systems survived USA: 4 of 63 systems survived. Systems of very quiet, comfortable and effective transport
@@nasaarhiva1727 heH said big towns, not cities, there's a difference. And by the way you could just use a double decker trolleybus or an articulated trolleybus just like London in the 1900's
With a existing trolleybus overhead infrastructure, a fleet of electric battery buses can be used, to extend existing trolley bus routes without the need to erect new overhead infrastructure.
Trolley buses may be an old technology and they have their limitations but it is interesting that some cities are investing in new vehicles. Well done, Vancouver! And thank you for including some on-board scenes.
With the increase use of battery-powered electric busses though I can see these busses time being limited though. Cheaper to run as they don't need to operate an powerplant they can just pay to charge them at the moment.
@@juanzingarello4005 they don't need a power plant. It's just 650 volts from the regular power plants and companies. They need wires and poles and other electrical stuff. But not a battery.
@@juanzingarello4005 In motion charging trolleybuses also known as dual trolleybuses, they re way better than some electric buses, more ecological, more efficient, cheaper to built, ( if there re already wires )
@@PrincePaulIowa These work by taking power directly from the line. I was just suggesting an alternative to make trolley buses mobile power plants! As for battery powered buses, I believe they are more harmful that trolleys since mining and manufacturing those batteries, then replacing them in 3-5 years would all be highly energy intensive/polluting processes. That said, it's the best solution for an airport, assuming you don't have a light rail or monorail, since trolley bus infrastructure may be wasteful if stretched all the way to the airport.
3:40 That is the same announcement voice that is used on buses in York Region (YRT/Viva) near Toronto, Ontario! The difference is, on conventional York Region Transit routes (ie 4 Major MacKenzie) it would say "next stop" like here, but after, it would say "Cedar and Major MacKenzie" instead of just simply "Cedar Avenue". On Viva routes (ie Viva Blue), it would say "next stop, Weldrick Road" like the announcement here. Another difference that I noticed is the visual announcement, as it is in all capital letters and it only shows a stop when it announces it. On YRT routes (ie 5 Clark) it isn't in all caps, and it also shows the four-digit number of the stop, an example is "Next Stop" followed by "#1416 At Bathurst St" and it would go back and forth. Also, the audible announcement would say "next stop, Bathurst and Clark". On Viva routes (ie Viva Orange), it is the same, but an example would be "Next Stop" followed by "Dufferin Street" and the audible would say "next stop, Dufferin Street". Also, I wonder if anyone has tried tapping a Toronto/Ottawa Presto card on a Compass card reader in Vancouver and seeing if it works. If I come to Vancouver for whatever it may be, whether it's work or visiting family, I should try it. I would laugh my face off if it actually works.
I get fascinated when I see these trolley busses. I remember seeing them in Poland and finding it funny how sometimes the driver would veer too far off the cables and get stuck and having to re-align the poles.
@@ELC2024 Yep. The driver had to come out with a pole to re-align them the bus doesn’t veer very far but I imagine if it did a tow truck would have to come.
An old technology which is very relevant today,no need for expensive battery's or charging. Could a modern version pick up power from the road by induction ?
a bit late, but yes in theory, in practice building that much induction infrastructure would be expensive and would have some problems in non-ideal weather. Not to mention how much easier it would be for an enterprising chap to leech off the system. a pair of bars latching onto lines is easy to notice, a normal van, not so much... The system works well as it is, and doesn't use any rare earth metals, so the old, if it ain't broke don't fix it applies here.
Random reply 9 months later (I have just stumbled upon this video however). I drive 40' and 60' Trolleys in Vancouver. You are pretty safe to move one lane over on straight wire, in a bend slightly less. You can get them over a lane and a half in a pinch assuming you are at a crawl. Right now the Granville bridge is under construction and the Trolleys are all at max extension crossing it. Heat and height play big roles as well, on a hot day the wires sag and you can loose your poles more easily. As well in some areas the wires are higher for a number of reasons and you can loose them in those spots by even being a lane over. There is a railroad crossing in Burnaby where they are at max vertical angle, you really only want to be going 5-10km directly under the wires. Also the Bus plays a factor as well, the 60' keep their poles better in a bend, but when you go over a bump the artic starts to bounce and you can have your poles bounce right off the wires.
Thomas MASELKO That’s because they are the same model. E40LFR. The big difference is, the emergency power set up on ours, to go around a dead spot where there is no power, or detour around a car accident or any other reason, is powered by an onboard battery pack. Where the off wire power system on the Philadelphia units is via a small Diesel engine.
Very sad statistics:
Canada: 1 of 14 trolleybus systems survived
USA: 4 of 63 systems survived. Systems of very quiet, comfortable and effective transport
These electric buses are a good idea for big towns.
@The secular humanist Articulated trolleybuses can do the same thing as trams for substantially lower cost.
@@ironmatic1 basically the trolley buses in Boston run on diesel hybrid
@@ironmatic1 you cam fit more people in trams
@@nasaarhiva1727 heH said big towns, not cities, there's a difference. And by the way you could just use a double decker trolleybus or an articulated trolleybus just like London in the 1900's
@@FiqFake157 double decker trolleys weren’t just in London they were all over the UK
so much quieter, cleaner and efficient than stinky diesel buses
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With a existing trolleybus overhead infrastructure, a fleet of electric battery buses can be used, to extend existing trolley bus routes without the need to erect new overhead infrastructure.
Don't replace the existing network; just keep the existing Tolley's and extend the network as and when required with battery electric buses.
@@clivebroadhead4381 Which is exactly what Chris said...
Trolley buses may be an old technology and they have their limitations but it is interesting that some cities are investing in new vehicles. Well done, Vancouver! And thank you for including some on-board scenes.
With the increase use of battery-powered electric busses though I can see these busses time being limited though. Cheaper to run as they don't need to operate an powerplant they can just pay to charge them at the moment.
@@juanzingarello4005 they don't need a power plant. It's just 650 volts from the regular power plants and companies. They need wires and poles and other electrical stuff. But not a battery.
Actually diesel buses are an older technology than trolleybuses.
@@juanzingarello4005 In motion charging trolleybuses also known as dual trolleybuses, they re way better than some electric buses, more ecological, more efficient, cheaper to built, ( if there re already wires )
Very well done!! The overhead shots are a nice bonus.
On a non-transit note, Vancouver's green street signs should be blue for better readability.
Impressive how they can accelerate to keep up with with traffic. And these lines have been used since 1948, although the buses are newer.
Electric motors actually accelerate faster than a combustion engine can
@@brandonking1737 unless it's a battery electric bus
Solar powered trolley buses! They use the energy from the sun when available and feed into the grid all excess electricity!
Is that how this works? At Schipol airport they charge their batteries like Tesla’s do and off they go! What’s better for environment?
@@PrincePaulIowa These work by taking power directly from the line. I was just suggesting an alternative to make trolley buses mobile power plants! As for battery powered buses, I believe they are more harmful that trolleys since mining and manufacturing those batteries, then replacing them in 3-5 years would all be highly energy intensive/polluting processes. That said, it's the best solution for an airport, assuming you don't have a light rail or monorail, since trolley bus infrastructure may be wasteful if stretched all the way to the airport.
@@RR-jz9pq thank you so much ☺️ that was insightful. Yeah, I guess more cities could use this model and curb emissions
@@PrincePaulIowa Appreciate this discussion and I learned things too, thank you😀
3:40 That is the same announcement voice that is used on buses in York Region (YRT/Viva) near Toronto, Ontario! The difference is, on conventional York Region Transit routes (ie 4 Major MacKenzie) it would say "next stop" like here, but after, it would say "Cedar and Major MacKenzie" instead of just simply "Cedar Avenue". On Viva routes (ie Viva Blue), it would say "next stop, Weldrick Road" like the announcement here.
Another difference that I noticed is the visual announcement, as it is in all capital letters and it only shows a stop when it announces it. On YRT routes (ie 5 Clark) it isn't in all caps, and it also shows the four-digit number of the stop, an example is "Next Stop" followed by "#1416 At Bathurst St" and it would go back and forth. Also, the audible announcement would say "next stop, Bathurst and Clark". On Viva routes (ie Viva Orange), it is the same, but an example would be "Next Stop" followed by "Dufferin Street" and the audible would say "next stop, Dufferin Street".
Also, I wonder if anyone has tried tapping a Toronto/Ottawa Presto card on a Compass card reader in Vancouver and seeing if it works. If I come to Vancouver for whatever it may be, whether it's work or visiting family, I should try it. I would laugh my face off if it actually works.
Translink busses only announce both street at the first stop after the bus turns onto a new street. Otherwise only the cross street is announced.
Awesome video! When I'm older in going to drive the Vancouver busses! Articulated, Trolley, And the other ones!
Nice, a kid who wants to do a real job and help people, instead of yet another youtuber/tech billionaire wannabe!
I like the E60LFR’s lol I kinda wish they made more of them, like as many as they did with the E40LFR’s 😜
I get fascinated when I see these trolley busses. I remember seeing them in Poland and finding it funny how sometimes the driver would veer too far off the cables and get stuck and having to re-align the poles.
after disconnecting, did the bus suddenly stop or lose power?
@@ELC2024 Yep. The driver had to come out with a pole to re-align them the bus doesn’t veer very far but I imagine if it did a tow truck would have to come.
congratulations Vancouver Canadá for trólebus the best
This is amazing . I love riding the famous #14 out to UBC OR Hastings
Keep the Tolley's and extend the network with battery electric buses!
+1
Fuck battery buses. Trolleys and diesels will always be far superior and cheaper!
Maybe a hybrid Trolley-Battery. It will charge while in the trolley section.
Batteries have relatively poor range, need mining and waste time with charging intervals. Trams/street level light rail is the way forward.
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Wonderful . Thanks dear friend
An old technology which is very relevant today,no need for expensive battery's or charging.
Could a modern version pick up power from the road by induction ?
a bit late, but yes in theory, in practice building that much induction infrastructure would be expensive and would have some problems in non-ideal weather. Not to mention how much easier it would be for an enterprising chap to leech off the system. a pair of bars latching onto lines is easy to notice, a normal van, not so much...
The system works well as it is, and doesn't use any rare earth metals, so the old, if it ain't broke don't fix it applies here.
I love trolleytbuses!
+1
Fact: these are Canada's last remaining trolleybuses.
trólebus mais modernos com ar condicionado e tudo mais , deveria ser inspiração para a PMSP e ambiental transportes
I wonder how far off the centerline of the overhead can the bus be driven, without going off the trolley wire.
Random reply 9 months later (I have just stumbled upon this video however). I drive 40' and 60' Trolleys in Vancouver. You are pretty safe to move one lane over on straight wire, in a bend slightly less. You can get them over a lane and a half in a pinch assuming you are at a crawl. Right now the Granville bridge is under construction and the Trolleys are all at max extension crossing it. Heat and height play big roles as well, on a hot day the wires sag and you can loose your poles more easily. As well in some areas the wires are higher for a number of reasons and you can loose them in those spots by even being a lane over. There is a railroad crossing in Burnaby where they are at max vertical angle, you really only want to be going 5-10km directly under the wires. Also the Bus plays a factor as well, the 60' keep their poles better in a bend, but when you go over a bump the artic starts to bounce and you can have your poles bounce right off the wires.
I was wondering the same. Thank you for the information.
6:12 this used to ran on 19 Stanley park
Wonder what North American city has the most trolleybuses in operation?
Trólebus articulados , trólebus standart , tamanho Midi size , muito bom
These look just like the philadelphia ones
Thomas MASELKO That’s because they are the same model. E40LFR. The big difference is, the emergency power set up on ours, to go around a dead spot where there is no power, or detour around a car accident or any other reason, is powered by an onboard battery pack. Where the off wire power system on the Philadelphia units is via a small Diesel engine.
cool
4:06 this click sounds like an animation
5:56
I’ve took it before
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They should use hydrogen power plants and battery power plants for these vehicles.
hydrogen power "plants" are called "wood" or "coal"
likes in the capital of Moscow, Russia and Pyongyang, North Korea :D
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