@waterside Why would it make the news? It was all approved expenses by the higher ups. The report just asked why he was being allowed to and it snowballed from there. He simply got caught and slapped on the hands. He didn't have to return the money. He wasn't fired or severely reprimanded. All he is being asked to do is document his expenses. Don't be surprised if he goes back to doing the same shit again once the furor dies down.
$62,000 over 4 years is a drop in the bucket for how much the government wastes. Imagine how much the guys being interviewed are making for not doing their job. This went on for 4 years.
He’s not a thief- he worked after hours from home, he asked if he could log those hours because he still had to be on the clock, he was granted approval. The fact that they did him like this is so wrong
It's government. Doesn't matter which government. ALL GOVERNMENTS FUNCTION THE SAME WAY. No one cares. Very few people are ever held accountable in governments, at any level. ...for anything. In Canada, EVERY government level is UNIONIZED throughout the entire country. In Vancouver, British Columbia, the B.C.Teachers Union is now (JUNE 2022) setting themselves up for a new contract with .....wait for it .....WAGES as the primary complaint. Teachers in B.C. make $100,000 annually ......for working NINE MONTHS. They have benefits superior to the majority of ALL non-union workers, as well as BENEFITS, PENSIONS, AND PENSION BENEFITS. The "justification" for increases is being ADVERTISED IN THE LOCAL MEDIA BY WAY OF ADS that claim "teachers pay is not keeping up with inflation", along with a few other "claims". Yet hardly anyone in B.C. makes $100,000 annually ....more like $60,000 "might" be an average good salary for most workers in the province .....so teachers are getting paid $40,000 MORE than most workers to begin with .....but the "claim" is they are not keeping up with "inflation" ....regardless of the high pay and working 25% less than most everyone else!! THIS IS GOVERNMENT ...........AND UNIONIZED. All this does is attract GREEDY PEOPLE ......NOT GOOD TEACHERS. ......and should I bother mentioning that when the teachers get this pay raise .....(they will get it because they will go on strike if they don't) .....then EVERY OTHER GOVERNMENT UNION WILL DEMAND EQUAL TREATMENT. And then guess what. TAXES WILL GO UP FOR EVERYONE ...TO PAY FOR THESE INCREASES. According to GOVERNMENT WORKERS ......FAIR IS FAIR. .
It's because everything he did was legal. He didn't do anything legally wrong double dipping with pension he got lucky with the timing. With the extra pay he asked and it was approved. I
Unfortunately @Appropriate-ChannelName is correct. But follow up question... WTF are you mad at a civilian who beat the system to get 62k, when he probably got the least payout of any corrupt scheme? He was a civilian who beat the system, sounds like the system is to blame. There are people who steal millions (for the benefit of harming other people), don't be mad at a community college fund instead of 1000x more atrocities unless you plan to hold the real money grabbers in account. I am not by any means saying he is a hero, but if you are calling him a world class thief you may as well call politics in general a doomsday machine.
@@appropriate-channelname3049 Exactly! He just gamed the system--good for him! The whole "double-dipping" thing is stupid, anyway. He already earned his pension, so why should it be wrong to turn around and get a job where he collects from both? The are tens of millions of people working two jobs. The smart ones are working two jobs at the same time!
This guy gamed the system with their own bureaucratic rules. He played the government with their own rules they set. I credit him for his ingenuity, but he also points out bureaucratic loopholes and how useless fellow bureaucrats are.
@Gabriel No. This is literally how government operates. Why is it corruption when one of us does it? Are you do deeply entrenched in your slavery that you are pissy someone hustled?
I work for a housing department and we have so many geriatric old farts double-dipping the pension and sleeping all day it's unreal. Some of them have like 6 months of vacation time too so they literally take the entire winter off and are pulling in $10,000/mo. between state pension and vacation time. Full health benefits, everything. We keep waiting around for them to die off or catch COVID or something but they just won't go away. They got sued one time for age discrimination and lost so now they just give them B.S. tasks to do and let them ride it out. My boss is one of them, he's "been there since the building went up in '73" he proudly declares to everyone he meets, even claims he helped design it (I doubt that). He technically "retired" in 2008. He gets an X-plate car. He hasn't been on a site or visited a client in years. He gets to park it in the (climate-controlled) basement and take a special elevator right up. I have to PAY out of each check to park on the roof of the garage just to walk down 7 flights because it's faster than the one out of three elevators that's working, and then wait for 2 more elevators to get up to my office on the 23rd floor. And people think younger civil servants have it all easy, those old farts ruined it for us. They also discovered asbestos in the building 2 weeks ago so there's that.
@@craigjensen6853 What I'm hearing is I'm too young to have yet found my hustle'. I'd say keep trying but the collapse of the system might be a bee in your bonnet. If if helps, the collapse will take out that guy you mentioned and all like him.
@@quietquitter6103 "Literally" operates? As opposed to figuratively ? By your "logic", only if an entire agency is corrupt should it be defined as corruption, in which case it wouldn't be able to function anyway. So no agency that still functions is corrupt., and the government, defined as all of its existing agencies, is then itself NOT corrupt.
If he’s on a 3 hour phone call, after hours, that is still considered work, he should be paid for that time. it isn’t fair to him to work off the clock.
Do you want to talk about being fair? It is not fair to me or you to pay for Carrillo's undocumented "3-hour phone call." He should not have received even a cent more than his standard pay. He and the former State Controller are corrupt. How does it feel to be robbed?
@@scottdean8576 I don’t feel bad, you know every person who works when they aren’t working will get paid overtime. He made overtime pay and y’all are pissed about it. Get a job that’s not paycheck to paycheck you’ll understand bonuses and salaries after that!
I was ordered to do 80hrs community service 25yrs ago for DOT I'm still freaked out and disgusted with the employees, I witnessed 10-15 employees run personal errands and drink coffee all-day I worked harder than they did... out of 80hrs!! I worked 2-3 hours
“Cost taxpayers 10s of thousands of dollars” that’s Litterally nothing for the gov. That like spitting on the ground for them. They spend millions on useless shit every month. GOOD FOR THIS GUY
True, but "Two wrongs don't make a right." I'm not sure if the 107 thumbs up are people who agree with your TOTALLY VALID indictment on government waste, or they are people who are actually applauding embezzlement and theft from the taxpayer (their OWN pocket)? I have an idea, based on the theme of other posts on this site, that people are super fed up with politicians running rackets and scams that are technically legal, but still are obviously ethically wrong and they are enriching themselves with our hard-earned tax money.
Absolutely, Rob. In a nutshell, my friend, the WHOLE GOBERMINT is an ONE BIG BAG OF CORRUPTIONS and FRAUD. If you pay yourself a salary to research on GOBERMINT CORRUPTION, you will spend your whole lifetime for you will be FINDING GOBERMINT CORRUPTIONS in all CORNERS and every part of the GOBERMINT in many different form. That's how bad this is.
@Kolya-The-Vodka-Guzzler There are many reasons why buildings would be named after an individual. 1.) He or she contributed to the construction of the building or simply he is the owner of the building. 2.) He or she has done something so important to help the country and the world. It is much like a street named after some famous people. 3.) Or for some shady reason(s). Like the the saying goes, *"If you scratch my back, I will scratch yours. LOL."* 4.) *But in the case of GOBERMINT buildings, it is usually or almost always GREED. HE or SHE paid a HUGE CHUNK OF MONEY for the building to be named after them and for their name to be on the building.* Gobermint buildings are PUBLIC PROPERTY. However, I can go up to the GOBERMINT and throw a 5 million dollar at their face just to have my name on one of their building. And they wouldn't mind it all; Gladly take my money and the next day my name would be on it... lol... When it comes to gobermint, MONEY has EVERYTHING to do with it. Why do you think COPS are quick to write you up or give you a ticket and if you refuse to sign on it they can throw you in JAIL? Think about it long and hard... When a prosecutor can threaten a private citizen by saying, *"What is written in the Constitution is one thing, but in practice it is another."* All because the citizen wants to take two of their police officers to court for harassing him on the road with bogus CITATIONS. What does that say about Gobermint as a whole... Here is that video... watch the whole thing ... you will love it... lol... ruclips.net/video/HKgObpMS-bY/видео.html Have a great day now. :)
Him, his old boss, and new guy all need 10 years in jail and his retirements stripped from him. Government teat suckers need to be held to a higher standard
@@realastuteinvestor It happens there too. I worked at a temp agency. Three people made and forged their own timesheets for six months after an assignment was over. That's how long it took the customer to realize they were paying for work they were not receiving.
Drool Alot That's right. That is one of the MAIN REASON none of the GOBERMINT workers GIVE A F*CK about the tax-payers MONEY. As far as the GOBERMINT workers go, PUBLIC's TAX-MONEY is a FREE FOR ALL... That's why things like this happen. Realize he is just ONE gobermint worker doing this... there are 100s if not 1000s of them out there doing EXACTLY what he did. lol...
I had a friend that worked in a model shop for our large corporation the whole shop was not given work to do for more than 20 years, so they came to work every day and built things for their homes, custom furniture and even a multi-use trailer for the boy scouts. The company found out about the department and gave him other work just before he retired.
@@user-ni9ms3gl8z Yes! a legend. Bill Koors was my friends name, the company is Hillenbrand Industries here in Indiana my friend Bill has since passed away.
Wow. Around here we have a company, I won’t mention their name, that will conduct a “reorganization” for the sole purpose of laying off senior, soon to retire, employees who then don’t get their pension. Non union of course.
@@garymountcastle6657 I was laid off after more than 20 years, so I took a "retirement package" that gave my family 18/24 months full insurance, a per year lump sum plus my vested retirement fund. I cashed out and invested it in a business. Everything has worked out for us, but most are not as blessed. My company was Hill-Rom corp. a family owned business till about 20 years ago.
It’s so easy to tell if he was making LEGITIMATE calls and emails. This is why I quit state govt work, almost everyone was cheating and the few of us who actually did work were tirelessly trying to pickup the slack
They sensationalized this entire thing. The 1859 hrs over 4 years basically works out to 8-9 hrs a week. His superior authorized it. Mike Curillio is actually a fall guy for the inept managers & department heads. Who would not get paid for extra work they are doing if approved. Also, who doesnt fully take advantage of benefits they are offered, like the 2nd pension he could work toward. He did not set these benefits up, the administrators did! All these "sweet deals" were not Mikes doing. They did not say Mike was found loafimg around town while claiming hours. In fact they could easily have their network administrator check Mikes email account & his phone extension to determine if emails/calls were indeed occuring the hours he claimed to work. They did not prove that. What they did was villanize Mike for having already earned a state pension. Now they want him out so he cant earn another. This did not need to be televised unlesd they were going to exposed the sloppy work by the cities system & poor work of its managers.
Shit, I'd do the same thing if I were him. Do barely anything, get full-time pay, and scarcely suffer any consequences after getting caught? Count me in.
This was not fraud, he got approval from his supervisors. They should have been doing a better job of looking at what they where really approving here.
Lots of conflicting statements in this report. He had approval for the extra hours but was unable to justify all those extra hours? This report is trying way to hard to make him look bad.
He did nothing wrong. He had approval to work extra. He was working part time hours to fill a full time position, which was borne out by his position being made full time after the story by this a-hole reporter ran. The outlet should have been sued for harassment and slander/libel.
@@robertspray7472 If they are able to prove he fudged his hours that's enough right there. When all came to light he should have been placed behind bars, not have some say no evidence while this shows exactly what's done wrong.
James Franklin that’s the thing, there’s zero evidence either way. His time was approved. There was zero oversight of his position. Legally there’s nothing anyone can do, except provide plenty of oversight now.
It’s hard to fire a NM State employee because according to the personnel regulations, you have a vested interest in your job. Also, the bad old days will be returning in January so the taxpayers of your once great state will be funding all kinds of things like this. But, then again, they asked for it.
I work at an auto parts store making just above minimum wage and my boss scrutinized my time sheet like it was written in Japanese and state employees are embezzling tens of thousands and no one bats an eye. Go ‘Murica.
This is a complete nuthin' burger. The only thing this guy is guilty of is gaming the system. I'm not concerned about a guy like this. I am concerned about politicians who go into public office with very little money to their name and come out on the other side as multi-millionaires. But, of course, that rarely gets investigated.
Hey man, they give speeches! Their voices are just so valuable that they get paid tens of thousands of dollars for a single speech! Where is the corruption there, I'm sure these companies are just giving them tens of thousands of dollars because they're good speakers.
this is indeed such a nothing story. anyone else would of asked for extra hours if they had to answer a few calls and emails. its not even that weird sounding
As someone who actually had a job where I was given nothing to do all day yet still handed a full paycheck and left for one where I felt needed, these stories disgust me. I hate that there are so many people like this.
I once called someone in our HR Department - those are the people to make the rules and give authorizations. The person who answered the phone said - "she's working from home today". I said "apparently not since you haven't forwarded my call or given me her home number". Working at home is a scam.
I was a consultant working from home for a few years. One of those jobs I was basically a dedicated support engineer for 3 companies. My entire job revolved around waiting for change requests and support requests. I basically got paid to play wow for 4 - 6 hrs a day
@@scottdean8576 lmao I work at a large financial firm sometimes putting in 12 -14 hours a day , probably would have only 4 hours of documented work. Most work cannot be documented by time…..
really this is your mind set, I was a department of corrections officer for 23 years, I made it to Captain, I never cheated a thing I often worked after my shift was over doing paperwork without pay, Overtime was no0t approved by the legislature but the work had to get done, so dont lump all state employees in with crooks
@@kevinkey6695 sitting in a chair 6.5 hours a day, walking or standing around 1/2 an hour. sounds rough, your health is shot right? 1/2 of 2nd shift is sleeping and 7 hours of sleeping on 3rd shift. Sounds tough. In construction my record is still 41 hours straight at WARP speed, of course I was 46 that year, self employed and a high end hands on professional. I new officers in the military. Have not met "Officer" material since I left in 89
The fact the new cabinet secretary took this interview(knowing he’s going to get bombarded with questions and cornered) and wanted to clear the air shows he’s mature enough to admit he made a mistake, won’t excuse the actions of previous secretaries, and is trying to clean up the state’s image, shows he’s right for the job. Good on him.
@@sullivanspapa1505 not take the interview? Continue to ignore the problem? Typical government actions….hide and avoid confrontation of the lack of responsibility?
Wow, just when we think this has to be a situation that no rational person could excuse their behaviors and lack of action...here comes Doc Ski Right for the job? Good on him? Wow
@@patrickplayspokerbadly6230 He has a point. Many might have just hidden and ducked all interviews. But, to be fair, let's call it "less horrible for the job than some" rather than "right for the job."
I'm also kinda confused did I miss the part that they prove he actually did anything wrong. Seems like he was able to negotiate a full time job into a part time job but that's not his fault someone approved that. Then he got approval from his manager to submit any extra hours. Again not his fault someone accept it. Now did he actually work all those extra hours probably not but I didn't see where they actually checked. Only a bunch of people saying they never bothered to check and just signed off.
I'm with you man.. All they're saying is he asked for what he wanted and got it.. And nobody could be assed to go and look into it. Plus we didn't even find out if he's good at his job lol. For all we know, he might have been smashing a days work before lunch.. Either way, the fact that he still works there indicates they don't have good enough reason to fire him.
If it's supposed to be an 8 hour job and he gets it knocked down to a 4 hour job as though he can do all the work in 4 hours, and then he claims overtime every single day because he can't get the work done, anyone with a brain can see that's not ethical. There's multiple people responsible for this, but this comment was spoken like someone who lies to get welfare and goes "Not my fault my application got accepted!"
@@ev6558 your comparison makes no sense. One is someone going in and negotiating with their boss for different terms of their employment which is what this guy did. They even say he emailed his boss and got approval for the overtime. That's just shitty bosses that didn't think about what they were agreeing to. Your random welfare example would be an actual scam which I no point in the video do they actually show that this guy did. If anything this video just shows how lazy the government is and will rubber stamp anything because it's not their money. No one cared he was clocking overtime until an out side source reviewed it.
@@ev6558 I'm not sure what jobs you have had. But if you go into your employer and negotiate different terms for being hired it isn't a scam. It's called a real job. If you then go to your boss and ASK to be paid for your over time again its not a scam. If you then submit your over time hours and each week your boss signs off on your overtime hours again that's not a SCAM. It's how overtime at a real job works. Unless they have proof he wasn't actually working these hours. Which at no point do they say, they just kept saying no one checked. THEN it would be a SCAM and falsifying his time card.
So this guy embezzled "tens of thousands" of tax payer money and the only thing that happened is he has to work full time? Not only should he have been FIRED, but he should be on his criminal way to prison. What a justice system.
They sensationalized this entire thing. The 1859 hrs over 4 years basically works out to 8-9 hrs a week. His superior authorized it. Mike Curillio is actually a fall guy for the inept managers & department heads. Who would not get paid for extra work they are doing if approved. Also, who doesnt fully take advantage of benefits they are offered, like the 2nd pension he could work toward. He did not set these benefits up, the administrators did! All these "sweet deals" were not Mikes doing. They did not say Mike was found loafimg around town while claiming hours. In fact they could easily have their network administrator check Mikes email account & his phone extension to determine if emails/calls were indeed occuring the hours he claimed to work. They did not prove that. What they did was villanize Mike for having already earned a state pension. Now they want him out so he cant earn another. This did not need to be televised unlesd they were going to exposed the sloppy work by the cities system & poor work of its managers.
The fact that he wasn’t fired proves that he didn’t do anything wrong or illegal. He was correct not to comment on this non-story. This “reporter” ought to try punching up.
Wait. So he had a full time job but scheduled himself half time but then did "extra hours" outside the "scheduled" hours (getting back towards full time)?
@@ddddoc7078 ya they do. Every Sunday a Co. cop would pull in by a local country church and cornfield and sleep till I posted it on Craigslist. For Example .Look up the video where a cop would claim OT when he was at home making 250k a year with tons of overtime
The scheme that I've seen them use is to get as many officers involved in the arrest (like for a DWI) and thus their names on the arrest report. Therefore, they all get paid overtime to show up for every state of the prosecution... Illegal? Maybe not, but definitely "ethically questionable"... Gaming the system to get more money...
If we would have done it then yes it would have been considered theft and we would have lost our jobs, been fined, and went to jail for years. But when a rich/powerful/government employee does it, they don't lose their job, don't pay fines, don't have to pay back or even give back what's left, and certainly don't go to jail. They are allowed to chose to continue to work and get a raise or retire with 100% of their salary so basically make the same amount and stay home and not work.
He worked for the department of corrections for 20yrs? So, it's true what they say about prisons, not only do they not rehabilitate but, instead, you end up learning more about being a crook than they teach you at Harvard law school?
That should have been a red flag to someone. If my employees have over 5 hours during a pay period I am asking questions. Over 20 hours and my director is asking questions. So if he is at 60k per year 1500 hours of overtime that is over 124,000 a year as a HR Specialist. This is insane. Why again is he still employed? Time fraud is a cut and dry terminal offense. Crazy.
The one that erks me is that the person in charge of South Carolinas roads recently got a 5 digit pay bump, bringing their salary up to around 260k a year. That's more than the presidents salary, and if you've ever driven those roads you know there is no way in hell they even deserve to have a job there. Debris will sit in intersections for MONTHS, metal plates are considered a permanent fix for terrible potholes. Theres one thats been near my parents house for 3 years now. It's disgusting.
@@woznicki1231 that being said they still shouldn't be making that kind of money with the job they've been doing. I've driven through alot of states, I can't think of many that have roads in worse condition than SC. Especially when you factor in how small the population is compared to alot of other states with shitty roads.
Got to get the money to pay those illegitimate salaries. Wouldn't want to pass through NM with what I am sure are shady policing practices to pay them.
@E Double you said "I have a supposedly multi-billionaire president who hasn't paid taxes in 20 years", so I said, taxes are like jail and laws they are ONLY for poor/working people, (middle class).
They sensationalized this entire thing. The 1859 hrs over 4 years basically works out to 8-9 hrs a week. His superior authorized it. Mike Curillio is actually a fall guy for the inept managers & department heads. Who would not get paid for extra work they are doing if approved. Also, who doesnt fully take advantage of benefits they are offered, like the 2nd pension he could work toward. He did not set these benefits up, the administrators did! All these "sweet deals" were not Mikes doing. They did not say Mike was found loafimg around town while claiming hours. In fact they could easily have their network administrator check Mikes email account & his phone extension to determine if emails/calls were indeed occuring the hours he claimed to work. They did not prove that. What they did was villanize Mike for having already earned a state pension. Now they want him out so he cant earn another. This did not need to be televised unlesd they were going to exposed the sloppy work by the cities system & poor work of its managers.
He was just smarter than the others. He asked to be part time. There is no law which states you can retire and draw your pension. Than get a new job. He is just smart. I don't see this an issue as no one called his time.
This guy should have been fired and prosecuted! He got away with all that and then KEPT the money he stole! He has serious dirt on someone high up the ladder
People are also receiving veterans widows pensions for YEARS after the widow is deceased because they don't inform the Veterans Administration that the person is in fact deceased.
That rarely happens, most deaths are reported to Social Security and the Veterans administration within days of a person's death. It is automatic by departments of Vital Statistics and Hospitals. Yes, some people are missed but they are so rare they are reported on. It is like the comment attributed to Pulitzer "Dog biting man is NOT news, Man biting dog IS NEWS". I.e. people getting pensions long after the person whose pension it is has died, is that rare that it is "News". Please note, what is more common and harder to fight is to find out your Social Security has ended because you died, when you are still alive. It takes months and sometime years to undo that mistake, but it is rarely reported. The reason is the Government denies it made such an error and blame the recipient for lying that he or she is still alive. It happens more often then someone being paid after they are dead, but reported as "Resolved" by the Government months before Social Security is restarted (and this is worse if we are talking about a private pension, those often have to go to court to get the payments restarted).
I worked with a young security guard 2 years ago who's family dealt with a problem like that. A father had passed & the SSA kept sending his address paper checks for his soc security payments. The next of kin & family sent notices to the SSA office but they kept mailing 💲.
I bought a house like 15 years ago from a n elderly lady i met once at the open house and her greedy kids got power of attorney to keep her from attending the closing. Anyways sometimes her checks would be delivered to the house or I would be walking my dogs in the neighborhood and would see her in passing. A few years go by maybe like 3 and I don't see this lady anymore. In Nov of 2020 a PPP loan packet came to the house addressed to her. When I met her in 2007-08 she said she was 86 years old. Im pretty certain this woman is long deceased.
Yeah I'm a lawn applicator with 3 different licenses, and I don't make that either. It's such b.s. thieves the lot of em. And it will never be fixed. Garbage man next door makes 50k a year and he's always home.....
So, where is the fraud? He was approved to set his own hours. He was approved work additional hours and get paid for it. It is a sweet deal, but I don't see it as fraudulent, unless I missed something.
Hell, look at how all those Congressmen ,and women ,who've lined their pockets with inside and under the table deals. Giving spouses and children Govt. Contracts worth MILLIONS.
Yup, I'd be more than happy retired on that money, even nowadays with the higher prices and all. This was back seven years ago....... obviously the dude had no imagination or hobbies, or just hated his Wife........ why work when you don't need to? Or maybe he had a Gambling problem or some such.....? Who knows?
Money issues or gambling for sure, you’d be surprised how fast you can spend money when you have nothing else to do, I’ve personally at a point managed to spend 40k in under a month due to gambling, (I did make it from gambling) but that’s besides the point, it’s possible and it happens more often then not unfortunately
@waterside Private industry I could accept your response but when you're stealing tax payer dollars that's a whole different story. Public workers should be held to a higher standard every time.
Odin31b A very good question, my friend? If that was you, they will NOT only FIRE you from the JOB IMMEDIATELY but will also take you to COURT and force you to pay EVERY LAST PENNY YOU STOLE... lol...
He wasn't doing it part time. They all agreed the state would pay him 60K a year to work 4 hours a day in the morning and anything after that was considered over time. When you break it down it was a little over 1K a paycheck which is pennies compared to what some people make. Once you make it up far enough people really dont bother to check if you're actually working because they're not working themselves.
I mean at the end of the day, 15,000 a year probably doesn't stand out enough for anyone to get suspicious, but still it's something that's needs to be fixed
One could argue He's been very efficient, in getting things done,given his extensive work experience. He's capable of doing a job in 1/2 the time it would of taken by lesser experienced individuals, 😀 Now if you venture further up the chain of bureaucrats, you'll find they just give themselves a pay increase. Paid vacation, paid benefits, sick days, personal days , limitless credit card, an a company vehicle ! Now who's the bigger scam artist? Lol
Im sure all his friends and family tell facebook on the regular what a great loving guy he is. How much evrybody likes him. These people are always hiding something
This could actually legitimate based on the story, he was allowed to add to his time if he answered calls and emails. The documentation of such activities I would think would just add even more time. If people weren't complaining about him being unavailable or things taking too long, then they would know it wasn't true he was working. I don't think it appears that happened.
Most of the people complaining didn't watch the video. He literally asked if he could do it for working off hours on phone and emails. If he was cheating the system then he is a pos but, if he was told to do it, then what's the actual problem?
Yeah it really makes you realize how crazy the mindset was only a few years ago. Some low-level state government employee might have been alleged to not work as hard as he should be for the pay? Entire news segment. Billionares lobbying politicians to cheat hundreds of millions out of taxes, no one batted an eye. Still true today at the actual government level, but at least people are starting to wake up a bit.
Technically, he hasn't done anything wrong....... he's just played the system to get a part time position and then had authorisation to claim overtime....... now whether that overtime was actually carried out is a completely different matter. The problem here is poor management and employee oversight........... typical of state/government bureaucracy where no one questions anything because they assume it is allowed/authorised already.
Happens all the time, in state and federal agencies. Minor things like claiming you worked until 4 PM when you really went home at 2:45. My federal agency began time card audits for that reason, checking peoples' timecard against what time they badged in and badged out each day. It adds up and the taxpayer gets stuck paying the bill. There was a case here in Wash DC where a federal employee somehow convinced everyone he was going on temporary assignment to the CIA, and then sat home getting paid. Apparently none of his supervisors wondered why there wasn't the usual mountain of paperwork for a temporary assignment to another agency. In all of these cases there is either negligence or incompetence or worst case collusion by the person's supervisor and / or timekeepers. Another common form of fraud is working overtime. As a fed I can't just say I'm going to work extra hours this week, my boss has to state in writing why and how many hours I'm required to work overtime. But many state and especially local governments either don't know or don't care about employees deciding they're going to work extra hours. Cops abuse overtime pay rules all the time by working insane extra hours during their last year or two in order to wind up with ridiculous huge retirement pay. Different forms of the same thing -- fraud.
Another HUGE area of fraud in federal government is official travel. Any time we travel, say to Tampa or San Diego or over to London, part of the travel package is a written statement justifying the cost of travel, saying that the meeting has to be face to face and can't just be done by video teleconference, which in at least 90% of cases it could be done by teleconference or even just a phone call. Booking fist class tickets, booking luxury-class rental cars, etc. People who don't really have any valid reason to attend a conference going along anyway. Etc etc. It adds up.
This went unnoticed because everyone's doing it.
@waterside to smart to get caught ^_-
Someone just wanted to piss in his Wheaties........
@waterside 😷👎...
They all cover for each other...
@waterside Why would it make the news? It was all approved expenses by the higher ups. The report just asked why he was being allowed to and it snowballed from there. He simply got caught and slapped on the hands. He didn't have to return the money. He wasn't fired or severely reprimanded. All he is being asked to do is document his expenses. Don't be surprised if he goes back to doing the same shit again once the furor dies down.
$62,000 over 4 years is a drop in the bucket for how much the government wastes. Imagine how much the guys being interviewed are making for not doing their job. This went on for 4 years.
drop in the lake man
@@smokecreekstudio7320 Drop in the ocean.
100% agree. Was the guy hustling? Sure. Was he doing anything fraudulent or even worthy of a news investigation? Not even close.
Mike and Larry look alike 🤔
Can we stop and admire Larry’s mustache 🧔♂️I wonder 💭 if food gets stuck in that thing
It's hard to catch a thief when you're too busy stealing from the same entity...
He’s not a thief- he worked after hours from home, he asked if he could log those hours because he still had to be on the clock, he was granted approval. The fact that they did him like this is so wrong
It's government. Doesn't matter which government. ALL GOVERNMENTS FUNCTION THE SAME WAY. No one cares. Very few people are ever held accountable in governments, at any level. ...for anything.
In Canada, EVERY government level is UNIONIZED throughout the entire country.
In Vancouver, British Columbia, the B.C.Teachers Union is now (JUNE 2022) setting themselves up for a new contract with .....wait for it .....WAGES as the primary complaint. Teachers in B.C. make $100,000 annually ......for working NINE MONTHS. They have benefits superior to the majority of ALL non-union workers, as well as BENEFITS, PENSIONS, AND PENSION BENEFITS.
The "justification" for increases is being ADVERTISED IN THE LOCAL MEDIA BY WAY OF ADS that claim "teachers pay is not keeping up with inflation", along with a few other "claims". Yet hardly anyone in B.C. makes $100,000 annually ....more like $60,000 "might" be an average good salary for most workers in the province .....so teachers are getting paid $40,000 MORE than most workers to begin with .....but the "claim" is they are not keeping up with "inflation" ....regardless of the high pay and working 25% less than most everyone else!!
THIS IS GOVERNMENT ...........AND UNIONIZED.
All this does is attract GREEDY PEOPLE ......NOT GOOD TEACHERS.
......and should I bother mentioning that when the teachers get this pay raise .....(they will get it because they will go on strike if they don't) .....then EVERY OTHER GOVERNMENT UNION WILL DEMAND EQUAL TREATMENT. And then guess what. TAXES WILL GO UP FOR EVERYONE ...TO PAY FOR THESE INCREASES. According to GOVERNMENT WORKERS ......FAIR IS FAIR.
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The fact that he wasn’t fired and taken to court for the finds being stolen shows they didn’t care
It's because everything he did was legal. He didn't do anything legally wrong double dipping with pension he got lucky with the timing. With the extra pay he asked and it was approved. I
Unfortunately @Appropriate-ChannelName is correct. But follow up question... WTF are you mad at a civilian who beat the system to get 62k, when he probably got the least payout of any corrupt scheme? He was a civilian who beat the system, sounds like the system is to blame. There are people who steal millions (for the benefit of harming other people), don't be mad at a community college fund instead of 1000x more atrocities unless you plan to hold the real money grabbers in account. I am not by any means saying he is a hero, but if you are calling him a world class thief you may as well call politics in general a doomsday machine.
why would he be fired he damn near did nothing wrong his boss OKd everything
@@appropriate-channelname3049 Exactly! He just gamed the system--good for him! The whole "double-dipping" thing is stupid, anyway. He already earned his pension, so why should it be wrong to turn around and get a job where he collects from both? The are tens of millions of people working two jobs. The smart ones are working two jobs at the same time!
Did anyone capture that Larry and Mike look alike 🤔 who is this guy?
I bet no one would notice if they just eliminated his job. I bet the world would be a better place if they just eliminated the whole department.
They should have sent the Bobs in there to ask him questions.
And steal his stapler
You mean eliminate the HR department of a large organization 🤣 okay.
@@QuarrellaDeVil oh that’s good stuff!
Sweet Deal#4: Gets to watch Netflix in the office
So he got away with it for 4 years and no punishment when caught..
Sweet deal #4
@keith cunningham you and edouble sound like idiots.
Why is this crook still employed?????
@E Double lies, just like the lie of russian collision
tom ee it was authorized
My question would be was he salaries as a full time employee and only worked 4 hours a day? And adding the extra as overtime?
E Double and you can prove that?
This guy gamed the system with their own bureaucratic rules. He played the government with their own rules they set. I credit him for his ingenuity, but he also points out bureaucratic loopholes and how useless fellow bureaucrats are.
@Gabriel No. This is literally how government operates. Why is it corruption when one of us does it? Are you do deeply entrenched in your slavery that you are pissy someone hustled?
@Gabriel there is no evidence he actually lied though just very high suspicion hence why they couldn't just fire him.
I work for a housing department and we have so many geriatric old farts double-dipping the pension and sleeping all day it's unreal. Some of them have like 6 months of vacation time too so they literally take the entire winter off and are pulling in $10,000/mo. between state pension and vacation time. Full health benefits, everything. We keep waiting around for them to die off or catch COVID or something but they just won't go away. They got sued one time for age discrimination and lost so now they just give them B.S. tasks to do and let them ride it out. My boss is one of them, he's "been there since the building went up in '73" he proudly declares to everyone he meets, even claims he helped design it (I doubt that). He technically "retired" in 2008. He gets an X-plate car. He hasn't been on a site or visited a client in years. He gets to park it in the (climate-controlled) basement and take a special elevator right up. I have to PAY out of each check to park on the roof of the garage just to walk down 7 flights because it's faster than the one out of three elevators that's working, and then wait for 2 more elevators to get up to my office on the 23rd floor. And people think younger civil servants have it all easy, those old farts ruined it for us. They also discovered asbestos in the building 2 weeks ago so there's that.
@@craigjensen6853 What I'm hearing is I'm too young to have yet found my hustle'. I'd say keep trying but the collapse of the system might be a bee in your bonnet. If if helps, the collapse will take out that guy you mentioned and all like him.
@@quietquitter6103 "Literally" operates? As opposed to figuratively ? By your "logic", only if an entire agency is corrupt should it be defined as corruption, in which case it wouldn't be able to function anyway. So no agency that still functions is corrupt., and the government, defined as all of its existing agencies, is then itself NOT corrupt.
If he’s on a 3 hour phone call, after hours, that is still considered work, he should be paid for that time. it isn’t fair to him to work off the clock.
Do you want to talk about being fair? It is not fair to me or you to pay for Carrillo's undocumented "3-hour phone call." He should not have received even a cent more than his standard pay. He and the former State Controller are corrupt. How does it feel to be robbed?
@@scottdean8576 I don’t feel bad, you know every person who works when they aren’t working will get paid overtime. He made overtime pay and y’all are pissed about it. Get a job that’s not paycheck to paycheck you’ll understand bonuses and salaries after that!
he never proved he actually did that lol he just claimed he did.
They always get the little guy for something but it's okay when Govenors use tax money to pay for parties prostitutes and payoffs.
Mikey screwed the state for 4 years & gets to keep his job... Man, he must have caught someone doing something real bad.
Everything he did was approved and above board, and that is the problem.
When you know where the bodies are buried...
@Giada_De_Low_Rent_Tits LMAO
SWEET DEAL #4 !
@@timan2039 I want to know who hired a full time worker for 20 hours a week?
This happens in every town and every city around the U.S. This has just been normal business for government employees
especially at state level employment know we took advantage of our work slept watch TV some even meet up with other co workers for sex every night
It's not just government employees. Walmart, McDonald's and Amazon are the biggest welfare queens in America.
I was ordered to do 80hrs community service 25yrs ago for DOT I'm still freaked out and disgusted
with the employees, I witnessed 10-15 employees run personal errands and drink coffee all-day
I worked harder than they did... out of 80hrs!! I worked 2-3 hours
“Cost taxpayers 10s of thousands of dollars” that’s Litterally nothing for the gov. That like spitting on the ground for them. They spend millions on useless shit every month. GOOD FOR THIS GUY
LOL check his smile :)
I mean yeah but we can't have a gov that shouldnt be able to catch time theft
True, but "Two wrongs don't make a right." I'm not sure if the 107 thumbs up are people who agree with your TOTALLY VALID indictment on government waste, or they are people who are actually applauding embezzlement and theft from the taxpayer (their OWN pocket)? I have an idea, based on the theme of other posts on this site, that people are super fed up with politicians running rackets and scams that are technically legal, but still are obviously ethically wrong and they are enriching themselves with our hard-earned tax money.
This guy was laughing all the way to the bank!
Those people didnt "catch" him cause they were prob doing the same thing.
Absolutely, Rob. In a nutshell, my friend, the WHOLE GOBERMINT is an ONE BIG BAG OF CORRUPTIONS and FRAUD. If you pay yourself a salary to research on GOBERMINT CORRUPTION, you will spend your whole lifetime for you will be FINDING GOBERMINT CORRUPTIONS in all CORNERS and every part of the GOBERMINT in many different form. That's how bad this is.
@Kolya-The-Vodka-Guzzler Is that suppose to be a rhetorical question, my friend Kolya? :) Is it not OBVIOUS to you, my friend? lol...
@Kolya-The-Vodka-Guzzler There are many reasons why buildings would be named after an individual. 1.) He or she contributed to the construction of the building or simply he is the owner of the building. 2.) He or she has done something so important to help the country and the world. It is much like a street named after some famous people. 3.) Or for some shady reason(s). Like the the saying goes, *"If you scratch my back, I will scratch yours. LOL."* 4.) *But in the case of GOBERMINT buildings, it is usually or almost always GREED. HE or SHE paid a HUGE CHUNK OF MONEY for the building to be named after them and for their name to be on the building.* Gobermint buildings are PUBLIC PROPERTY. However, I can go up to the GOBERMINT and throw a 5 million dollar at their face just to have my name on one of their building. And they wouldn't mind it all; Gladly take my money and the next day my name would be on it... lol... When it comes to gobermint, MONEY has EVERYTHING to do with it. Why do you think COPS are quick to write you up or give you a ticket and if you refuse to sign on it they can throw you in JAIL? Think about it long and hard... When a prosecutor can threaten a private citizen by saying, *"What is written in the Constitution is one thing, but in practice it is another."* All because the citizen wants to take two of their police officers to court for harassing him on the road with bogus CITATIONS. What does that say about Gobermint as a whole... Here is that video... watch the whole thing ... you will love it... lol... ruclips.net/video/HKgObpMS-bY/видео.html
Have a great day now. :)
@Kolya-The-Vodka-Guzzler Nope... I am an American citizen with all the PROPER paper works. :)
@Kolya-The-Vodka-Guzzler if you say so... :)
"Trusted State Bureaucrat"
Thats the problem right there.
Contradiction in terms.
Him, his old boss, and new guy all need 10 years in jail and his retirements stripped from him.
Government teat suckers need to be held to a higher standard
Trump too
@@mickikindley7821 😂 y’all folks don’t deserve to be alive
Biden too.. SMH!!!!
This is the kinda guy who has to have adult supervision & have "New Rules made" because of his actions.
It's not their money...... They don't care
New Mexico has a new corruption scandal every week.
@@PyleZAP97 I was planning on retiring from California to New Mexico... The more I see this... Forget it now
@@droolalot5795 ... Beautiful locations in NM...except where extreme poverty and/or politics have struck.
@@realastuteinvestor It happens there too. I worked at a temp agency. Three people made and forged their own timesheets for six months after an assignment was over. That's how long it took the customer to realize they were paying for work they were not receiving.
Drool Alot
That's right. That is one of the MAIN REASON none of the GOBERMINT workers GIVE A F*CK about the tax-payers MONEY. As far as the GOBERMINT workers go, PUBLIC's TAX-MONEY is a FREE FOR ALL... That's why things like this happen. Realize he is just ONE gobermint worker doing this... there are 100s if not 1000s of them out there doing EXACTLY what he did. lol...
One question...Is New Mexico hiring?!
If you are a Liberal, yes.
I am thinking there is a wait list now due to everyone applying.
Water Bottle
Lol hahahahaha
New Mexico is possibly the most corrupt state out there, you don't want that.
I need extra money too... Where do I sign up? 😂😂😂
I had a friend that worked in a model shop for our large corporation the whole shop was not given work to do for more than 20 years, so they came to work every day and built things for their homes, custom furniture and even a multi-use trailer for the boy scouts. The company found out about the department and gave him other work just before he retired.
What a legend
@@user-ni9ms3gl8z Yes! a legend. Bill Koors was my friends name, the company is Hillenbrand Industries here in Indiana my friend Bill has since passed away.
Wow. Around here we have a company, I won’t mention their name, that will conduct a “reorganization” for the sole purpose of laying off senior, soon to retire, employees who then don’t get their pension. Non union of course.
@@garymountcastle6657 I was laid off after more than 20 years, so I took a "retirement package" that gave my family 18/24 months full insurance, a per year lump sum plus my vested retirement fund. I cashed out and invested it in a business. Everything has worked out for us, but most are not as blessed. My company was Hill-Rom corp. a family owned business till about 20 years ago.
It’s so easy to tell if he was making LEGITIMATE calls and emails. This is why I quit state govt work, almost everyone was cheating and the few of us who actually did work were tirelessly trying to pickup the slack
Now I want to get in a gov job and expose crooks
Incredible he wasn't fired and made to pay back what he wasn't entitled to
The system is so corrupt, I worked for them, made great money, due to values and this stuff, I was unethical and had to leave to save my soul.
Not surprising… The bureaucrats are corrupt and need removed!
They sensationalized this entire thing. The 1859 hrs over 4 years basically works out to 8-9 hrs a week. His superior authorized it. Mike Curillio is actually a fall guy for the inept managers & department heads. Who would not get paid for extra work they are doing if approved. Also, who doesnt fully take advantage of benefits they are offered, like the 2nd pension he could work toward. He did not set these benefits up, the administrators did! All these "sweet deals" were not Mikes doing. They did not say Mike was found loafimg around town while claiming hours. In fact they could easily have their network administrator check Mikes email account & his phone extension to determine if emails/calls were indeed occuring the hours he claimed to work. They did not prove that. What they did was villanize Mike for having already earned a state pension. Now they want him out so he cant earn another. This did not need to be televised unlesd they were going to exposed the sloppy work by the cities system & poor work of its managers.
75% are criminals they love each other
They can’t because he had approval not to document but to just add his time
Do you remember a time when people would get fired for timesheet fraud?
Pepperidge Farm remembers
You have me salivating... Plug me in...
Shit, I'd do the same thing if I were him.
Do barely anything, get full-time pay, and scarcely suffer any consequences after getting caught? Count me in.
Sadly it wasn't fraud if he got his boss' approval. The boss should be fired for incompetence.
He kept his job? Cheaters prosper
This was not fraud, he got approval from his supervisors. They should have been doing a better job of looking at what they where really approving here.
I really love how trillions of dollars are just vanishing over the years but this is their priority
Also through thievery like this...
The people making those trillions disappear are the owners of these news outlets
He either pissed someone off and/or was outted to keep the heat off someone else who was doing something naughtier
It’s local news and they are covering local stories
Lots of conflicting statements in this report.
He had approval for the extra hours but was unable to justify all those extra hours?
This report is trying way to hard to make him look bad.
He did nothing wrong. He had approval to work extra. He was working part time hours to fill a full time position, which was borne out by his position being made full time after the story by this a-hole reporter ran. The outlet should have been sued for harassment and slander/libel.
Right? Did they proof he did no work in those extra hours?
So he's employed still?? That says everything right there.
James Franklin there’s no evidence he ever did anything wrong. It was all approved compensation.
He knew the system.
@@robertspray7472 If they are able to prove he fudged his hours that's enough right there. When all came to light he should have been placed behind bars, not have some say no evidence while this shows exactly what's done wrong.
James Franklin that’s the thing, there’s zero evidence either way. His time was approved.
There was zero oversight of his position. Legally there’s nothing anyone can do, except provide plenty of oversight now.
It’s hard to fire a NM State employee because according to the personnel regulations, you have a vested interest in your job. Also, the bad old days will be returning in January so the taxpayers of your once great state will be funding all kinds of things like this. But, then again, they asked for it.
So,we have an open-collared employee who answers directly to a cabinet level big-shot?
I work at an auto parts store making just above minimum wage and my boss scrutinized my time sheet like it was written in Japanese and state employees are embezzling tens of thousands and no one bats an eye. Go ‘Murica.
And you do more to help your community than 90% of state workers
This is a complete nuthin' burger. The only thing this guy is guilty of is gaming the system. I'm not concerned about a guy like this. I am concerned about politicians who go into public office with very little money to their name and come out on the other side as multi-millionaires. But, of course, that rarely gets investigated.
Hey man, they give speeches! Their voices are just so valuable that they get paid tens of thousands of dollars for a single speech! Where is the corruption there, I'm sure these companies are just giving them tens of thousands of dollars because they're good speakers.
this is indeed such a nothing story. anyone else would of asked for extra hours if they had to answer a few calls and emails. its not even that weird sounding
I worked for nystate health dept.27 years.
Most people could not work for state government there are rules for rules for more rules.
Wow, so you like government corruption? And you wonder why they have such a low approval rating.
As someone who actually had a job where I was given nothing to do all day yet still handed a full paycheck and left for one where I felt needed, these stories disgust me. I hate that there are so many people like this.
boo hoo what a horrible problem to have
Man I was in a similar spot and it stressed me out. Made no sense and I could not take it. Wife hated me for it but I look in the mirror not her
please see House of Representatives and US Senate!
Some people have family needs that go beyond their own wants
@@JohnDoe69986 and some people are plain selfish, stupid and crooks!
And Crime does not pay? MY ASS looks like it paid him...
Brian Fleming
He knows the system.
Is it a crime if nothing illegal took place?
Jason Mimiaga
This shit is nothing compared to what I’ve seen. Nepotism, Shell Companies, Overtime rackets, etc
Your ass payed him? Nice
I once called someone in our HR Department - those are the people to make the rules and give authorizations. The person who answered the phone said - "she's working from home today". I said "apparently not since you haven't forwarded my call or given me her home number". Working at home is a scam.
I was a consultant working from home for a few years. One of those jobs I was basically a dedicated support engineer for 3 companies. My entire job revolved around waiting for change requests and support requests. I basically got paid to play wow for 4 - 6 hrs a day
Sounds like you don't know what wfh is lmao
That was a total attack on this guy. He did what was authorized by a fucking cabinet member.
Did you watch the same reprt I did? This guy had no documentation for any of his so called OT. How do you feel having been robbed?
@@scottdean8576 but did not document doesn’t equal he did no work.
@@scottdean8576 lmao I work at a large financial firm sometimes putting in 12 -14 hours a day , probably would have only 4 hours of documented work. Most work cannot be documented by time…..
Where is proof that he didn't work the extra hours?
The amount "claimed" is nothing compared to the million$+ of government waste.
FRAUD IS FRAUD!!
department of corrections.. guess that explains the corruption.
I thought the exact same thing when they said he worked there.
Department of Corruption** . Get it right bud!
Hey, state employees work, who'd a thunk it?
really this is your mind set, I was a department of corrections officer for 23 years, I made it to Captain, I never cheated a thing I often worked after my shift was over doing paperwork without pay, Overtime was no0t approved by the legislature but the work had to get done, so dont lump all state employees in with crooks
@@kevinkey6695 sitting in a chair 6.5 hours a day, walking or standing around 1/2 an hour. sounds rough, your health is shot right? 1/2 of 2nd shift is sleeping and 7 hours of sleeping on 3rd shift. Sounds tough. In construction my record is still 41 hours straight at WARP speed, of course I was 46 that year, self employed and a high end hands on professional. I new officers in the military. Have not met "Officer" material since I left in 89
The fact the new cabinet secretary took this interview(knowing he’s going to get bombarded with questions and cornered) and wanted to clear the air shows he’s mature enough to admit he made a mistake, won’t excuse the actions of previous secretaries, and is trying to clean up the state’s image, shows he’s right for the job. Good on him.
what else could he do
@@sullivanspapa1505 not take the interview? Continue to ignore the problem? Typical government actions….hide and avoid confrontation of the lack of responsibility?
Wow, just when we think this has to be a situation that no rational person could excuse their behaviors and lack of action...here comes Doc Ski
Right for the job?
Good on him?
Wow
@@patrickplayspokerbadly6230 He has a point. Many might have just hidden and ducked all interviews. But, to be fair, let's call it "less horrible for the job than some" rather than "right for the job."
BS. He;s a POS like ALL other federal govt workers...
When asked "What would you say ya do here?"
His reply was, "I have people skills! I am good at dealing with people! Can't you understand that?"
Right on
I'm also kinda confused did I miss the part that they prove he actually did anything wrong. Seems like he was able to negotiate a full time job into a part time job but that's not his fault someone approved that. Then he got approval from his manager to submit any extra hours. Again not his fault someone accept it. Now did he actually work all those extra hours probably not but I didn't see where they actually checked. Only a bunch of people saying they never bothered to check and just signed off.
I'm with you man.. All they're saying is he asked for what he wanted and got it.. And nobody could be assed to go and look into it. Plus we didn't even find out if he's good at his job lol. For all we know, he might have been smashing a days work before lunch.. Either way, the fact that he still works there indicates they don't have good enough reason to fire him.
If it's supposed to be an 8 hour job and he gets it knocked down to a 4 hour job as though he can do all the work in 4 hours, and then he claims overtime every single day because he can't get the work done, anyone with a brain can see that's not ethical. There's multiple people responsible for this, but this comment was spoken like someone who lies to get welfare and goes "Not my fault my application got accepted!"
@@ev6558 your comparison makes no sense. One is someone going in and negotiating with their boss for different terms of their employment which is what this guy did. They even say he emailed his boss and got approval for the overtime. That's just shitty bosses that didn't think about what they were agreeing to. Your random welfare example would be an actual scam which I no point in the video do they actually show that this guy did. If anything this video just shows how lazy the government is and will rubber stamp anything because it's not their money. No one cared he was clocking overtime until an out side source reviewed it.
@@727HUGHES Just because his boss was OK with him running a scam doesn't mean it wasn't a scam. This really isn't complicated.
@@ev6558 I'm not sure what jobs you have had. But if you go into your employer and negotiate different terms for being hired it isn't a scam. It's called a real job. If you then go to your boss and ASK to be paid for your over time again its not a scam. If you then submit your over time hours and each week your boss signs off on your overtime hours again that's not a SCAM. It's how overtime at a real job works. Unless they have proof he wasn't actually working these hours. Which at no point do they say, they just kept saying no one checked. THEN it would be a SCAM and falsifying his time card.
I bet all his kids work in state government also should be looked at.....
So this guy embezzled "tens of thousands" of tax payer money and the only thing that happened is he has to work full time? Not only should he have been FIRED, but he should be on his criminal way to prison. What a justice system.
you didn't watch the clip did you?
They sensationalized this entire thing. The 1859 hrs over 4 years basically works out to 8-9 hrs a week. His superior authorized it. Mike Curillio is actually a fall guy for the inept managers & department heads. Who would not get paid for extra work they are doing if approved. Also, who doesnt fully take advantage of benefits they are offered, like the 2nd pension he could work toward. He did not set these benefits up, the administrators did! All these "sweet deals" were not Mikes doing. They did not say Mike was found loafimg around town while claiming hours. In fact they could easily have their network administrator check Mikes email account & his phone extension to determine if emails/calls were indeed occuring the hours he claimed to work. They did not prove that. What they did was villanize Mike for having already earned a state pension. Now they want him out so he cant earn another. This did not need to be televised unlesd they were going to exposed the sloppy work by the cities system & poor work of its managers.
He literally got approval from his company to do what he was doing.
Unique situation my foot! A simple hr employee doing their job would of caught that. City government at its finest.
The fact that he wasn’t fired proves that he didn’t do anything wrong or illegal. He was correct not to comment on this non-story. This “reporter” ought to try punching up.
Unless he's blackmailing aonyone that could get him fired.
@@shentino - Evidence?
@@danalexander2149 my point is that the lack of firing doesn't prove anything
It shows how inept our government are.
"I have not seen this before"...except for on my pay check. They are all crooks.
Wait. So he had a full time job but scheduled himself half time but then did "extra hours" outside the "scheduled" hours (getting back towards full time)?
Made full time (40 hour) pay for 20, then OT for anything over 20.
@@bc1969214 no. He didnt. Review the timesheets and you’ll see it was 4 hours everyday plus his “bogus” hours. There is no OT for over 20.
A modern day hero. A legend in his own time. Maybe he will write a good book about his experiences but not on state time!!
They catch cops doing the overtime scam all the time !
No "they" don't
@@ddddoc7078 Ddoc. Ooooooh Yaaaaaaa. Cops making 240k a year with only six months training. What a deal. Watch the video.
@@ddddoc7078 ya they do. Every Sunday a Co. cop would pull in by a local country church and cornfield and sleep till I posted it on Craigslist. For Example .Look up the video where a cop would claim OT when he was at home making 250k a year with tons of overtime
The scheme that I've seen them use is to get as many officers involved in the arrest (like for a DWI) and thus their names on the arrest report. Therefore, they all get paid overtime to show up for every state of the prosecution... Illegal? Maybe not, but definitely "ethically questionable"... Gaming the system to get more money...
Basically theft
Al Wils
They all do it
It is theft.
Just ask the Fortune 500 companies. He learned their lessons.
Not basically....100 percent theft
If we would have done it then yes it would have been considered theft and we would have lost our jobs, been fined, and went to jail for years. But when a rich/powerful/government employee does it, they don't lose their job, don't pay fines, don't have to pay back or even give back what's left, and certainly don't go to jail. They are allowed to chose to continue to work and get a raise or retire with 100% of their salary so basically make the same amount and stay home and not work.
Unreal! He robs them and they just say "don't Get caught doing that anymore".
He should be convicted, jailed, fined & made to pay back the money! NOT still employed doing the same job. What an insult to the tax payers.
But how do you know he was not doing his job from home?
He worked for the department of corrections for 20yrs? So, it's true what they say about prisons, not only do they not rehabilitate but, instead, you end up learning more about being a crook than they teach you at Harvard law school?
Is anyone surprised? I mean really surprised, like completely taken aback.
Nope
That should have been a red flag to someone. If my employees have over 5 hours during a pay period I am asking questions. Over 20 hours and my director is asking questions. So if he is at 60k per year 1500 hours of overtime that is over 124,000 a year as a HR Specialist. This is insane. Why again is he still employed? Time fraud is a cut and dry terminal offense. Crazy.
The one that erks me is that the person in charge of South Carolinas roads recently got a 5 digit pay bump, bringing their salary up to around 260k a year. That's more than the presidents salary, and if you've ever driven those roads you know there is no way in hell they even deserve to have a job there. Debris will sit in intersections for MONTHS, metal plates are considered a permanent fix for terrible potholes. Theres one thats been near my parents house for 3 years now. It's disgusting.
a presidents salary is 400k a year
@@woznicki1231 my high ass🤣 idk why I was thinking it was 200k.
@@woznicki1231 that being said they still shouldn't be making that kind of money with the job they've been doing. I've driven through alot of states, I can't think of many that have roads in worse condition than SC. Especially when you factor in how small the population is compared to alot of other states with shitty roads.
You have to give the old boy credit he got caught and still KEPT his job! I think I am moving to NM lol!
Got to get the money to pay those illegitimate salaries. Wouldn't want to pass through NM with what I am sure are shady policing practices to pay them.
Only works half the day but takes extra hours like he is working 50+ hours.
@E Double taxes are for working/poor people just like laws and jail.
@E Double you said "I have a supposedly multi-billionaire president who hasn't paid taxes in 20 years", so I said, taxes are like jail and laws they are ONLY for poor/working people, (middle class).
They sensationalized this entire thing. The 1859 hrs over 4 years basically works out to 8-9 hrs a week. His superior authorized it. Mike Curillio is actually a fall guy for the inept managers & department heads. Who would not get paid for extra work they are doing if approved. Also, who doesnt fully take advantage of benefits they are offered, like the 2nd pension he could work toward. He did not set these benefits up, the administrators did! All these "sweet deals" were not Mikes doing. They did not say Mike was found loafimg around town while claiming hours. In fact they could easily have their network administrator check Mikes email account & his phone extension to determine if emails/calls were indeed occuring the hours he claimed to work. They did not prove that. What they did was villanize Mike for having already earned a state pension. Now they want him out so he cant earn another. This did not need to be televised unlesd they were going to exposed the sloppy work by the cities system & poor work of its managers.
This guy is my hero. So happy I finally got a municipal job.
He was just smarter than the others. He asked to be part time. There is no law which states you can retire and draw your pension. Than get a new job. He is just smart. I don't see this an issue as no one called his time.
This guy should have been fired and prosecuted! He got away with all that and then KEPT the money he stole! He has serious dirt on someone high up the ladder
People are also receiving veterans widows pensions for YEARS after the widow is deceased because they don't inform the Veterans Administration that the person is in fact deceased.
That rarely happens, most deaths are reported to Social Security and the Veterans administration within days of a person's death. It is automatic by departments of Vital Statistics and Hospitals. Yes, some people are missed but they are so rare they are reported on. It is like the comment attributed to Pulitzer "Dog biting man is NOT news, Man biting dog IS NEWS". I.e. people getting pensions long after the person whose pension it is has died, is that rare that it is "News".
Please note, what is more common and harder to fight is to find out your Social Security has ended because you died, when you are still alive. It takes months and sometime years to undo that mistake, but it is rarely reported. The reason is the Government denies it made such an error and blame the recipient for lying that he or she is still alive. It happens more often then someone being paid after they are dead, but reported as "Resolved" by the Government months before Social Security is restarted (and this is worse if we are talking about a private pension, those often have to go to court to get the payments restarted).
I worked with a young security guard 2 years ago who's family dealt with a problem like that. A father had passed & the SSA kept sending his address paper checks for his soc security payments. The next of kin & family sent notices to the SSA office but they kept mailing 💲.
I bought a house like 15 years ago from a n elderly lady i met once at the open house and her greedy kids got power of attorney to keep her from attending the closing. Anyways sometimes her checks would be delivered to the house or I would be walking my dogs in the neighborhood and would see her in passing. A few years go by maybe like 3 and I don't see this lady anymore. In Nov of 2020 a PPP loan packet came to the house addressed to her. When I met her in 2007-08 she said she was 86 years old. Im pretty certain this woman is long deceased.
HR....another level of bureaucracy in each department at every agency in every state .
Ranks right up there with Deputy Assistant Undersecretary.
Nothing wrong with taking advantage of there being no statute’s prohibiting him from doing so. It’s the system at fault not this gentleman.
It's called fraud and is illegal.
@justinthor indeed.. money is both debt and need, Sweet fruit from seed that’s greed. I’d ask why he remains employed after all this ?
@justinthor with that we are agreed.
You sound like a criminal. Well done.
Y’all active on this thread
And I work construction for 10 hrs a day and don’t make one of his salaries
Yeah I'm a lawn applicator with 3 different licenses, and I don't make that either. It's such b.s. thieves the lot of em. And it will never be fixed. Garbage man next door makes 50k a year and he's always home.....
So, where is the fraud? He was approved to set his own hours. He was approved work additional hours and get paid for it. It is a sweet deal, but I don't see it as fraudulent, unless I missed something.
The Fraud was him knowingly ripping off the public.
Everyone that was involved in this scheme should be fired. You signed off on it, you lose your taxpayer funded vacation.
Hell, look at how all those Congressmen ,and women ,who've lined their pockets with inside and under the table deals. Giving spouses and children Govt. Contracts worth MILLIONS.
thats why people get government jobs , to leach off the government
Piss off, government employees are no more (or less) prone to cheat. And most people don't cheat.
E Double bulls git that dudes paid more taxes than a fuck stick Democrat any day and if he didn’t y should he he actually earned his money legally
Right! Republikans always ruin everything!😅👍🍻
Tip of the iceberg.
Lost in all this is the dude's retired from a city job making $6500 per month with full medical benefits. That's a helluva pension.
Yup, I'd be more than happy retired on that money, even nowadays with the higher prices and all. This was back seven years ago....... obviously the dude had no imagination or hobbies, or just hated his Wife........ why work when you don't need to? Or maybe he had a Gambling problem or some such.....? Who knows?
Money issues or gambling for sure, you’d be surprised how fast you can spend money when you have nothing else to do, I’ve personally at a point managed to spend 40k in under a month due to gambling, (I did make it from gambling) but that’s besides the point, it’s possible and it happens more often then not unfortunately
This is a good representation of our current government as a whole.
So he doesn't have to pay that money back?
@waterside Private industry I could accept your response but when you're stealing tax payer dollars that's a whole different story. Public workers should be held to a higher standard every time.
@waterside You're the dumb fuck.....after reading your bullshit diatribe it's obvious you haven't a clue.
@@BomberBee1220 > *Angry about guy making a few extra thousand dollars*
> *Not Angry about 51% of our entire national budget is spent on military*
You can sleep good knowing after this he isn't getting that free hours anymore and he's now looking like a piece shit to everyone that knows him.
Odin31b
A very good question, my friend? If that was you, they will NOT only FIRE you from the JOB IMMEDIATELY but will also take you to COURT and force you to pay EVERY LAST PENNY YOU STOLE... lol...
He did it part time for years so why do the taxpayers now have to pay for a full time employee???
He was always getting paid 8-12 hours a day, but only there about 4. Get to work at 8am, then leave for lunch at 12 and never come back.
I got that but the question is.....why do they need a full time employee when this guy was doing it part time?
He wasn't doing it part time. They all agreed the state would pay him 60K a year to work 4 hours a day in the morning and anything after that was considered over time. When you break it down it was a little over 1K a paycheck which is pennies compared to what some people make. Once you make it up far enough people really dont bother to check if you're actually working because they're not working themselves.
I mean at the end of the day, 15,000 a year probably doesn't stand out enough for anyone to get suspicious, but still it's something that's needs to be fixed
I love Larry Barker investigations!!
This guy is a legend, beating the system
I think Larry"s nose and moustache are attached to his glasses
LMAO
unstablebobgable shhh! How do you think he does his job? He has to go undercover.
Lol mr.potatohead
Lol it looks like it!
Oh yeah - you can still get those novelty glasses at Walmart...
One could argue He's been very efficient, in getting things done,given his extensive work experience. He's capable of doing a job in 1/2 the time it would of taken by lesser experienced individuals, 😀
Now if you venture further up the chain of bureaucrats, you'll find they just give themselves a pay increase. Paid vacation, paid benefits, sick days, personal days , limitless credit card, an a company vehicle ! Now who's the bigger scam artist? Lol
But this crook is in the same cake mix. They’re All guilty of FRAUD.
I didn't see what he did wrong his boss approved this.
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Do you believe he did something appropriate?
she approved it under the guise of him "doing extra work at home taking phone calls and replying to emails"
@@NoMoreQQ “I want you to continue “ Ripping off the public, because “ it enables me and my colleagues to do the same”. hush money..
No Kronos or time clock? Where is the supervisors?
they all know about it and all do it at the end that why nothing gets done and why always asking for money!!!!
Amazing reporting, you will be shocked if you looked into congress.
Im sure all his friends and family tell facebook on the regular what a great loving guy he is. How much evrybody likes him. These people are always hiding something
Tip of the Iceberg, One of tens of thousands doing it.
Mike, you are my hero. Fly so low they can't see you my friend.
A sea of incompetence hides a mountain of corruption!
He wasn't fired and charged with time card fraud?
Wow,
Just wow.
No proof... He submitted the time cards and they were approved... He was playing by the rules that were in place at the time...
Well now we know why New Mexico's economy is going into the crapper!😕
So defrauding the government doesn't even cost his job? Where do I sign up? I Want free money.
The criminal needs to be in prison for fraud and theft.
Worst of all, American taxpayers goes to these people. Sick!
Eagle eyed bean counters.... ok, that is funny. That’s why they get the job, because they turn their heads and look the other way.
I find "eagle eyed bean counters" very offensive and racist..LOL
This could actually legitimate based on the story, he was allowed to add to his time if he answered calls and emails. The documentation of such activities I would think would just add even more time. If people weren't complaining about him being unavailable or things taking too long, then they would know it wasn't true he was working. I don't think it appears that happened.
Most of the people complaining didn't watch the video. He literally asked if he could do it for working off hours on phone and emails. If he was cheating the system then he is a pos but, if he was told to do it, then what's the actual problem?
$62k is a drop in the bucket compared to millions that they catch.
Yeah it really makes you realize how crazy the mindset was only a few years ago. Some low-level state government employee might have been alleged to not work as hard as he should be for the pay? Entire news segment. Billionares lobbying politicians to cheat hundreds of millions out of taxes, no one batted an eye. Still true today at the actual government level, but at least people are starting to wake up a bit.
What a chad. Honestly a dude gaming the system is the least of my worries within the government
So all he got was a slap on the wrist? If he wasn't a government employee he would be heavily disiplined and even fired.
E Double stfu already
And to add he's still working there yeah they need to clean house of all of those criminals.
Why the F is his still working there!!! He should have to pay back that money AFTER he gets out of jail.
Wow...fire him... make him pay back all the money plus interest...then change him...
Now that he's working 8 hour days they need to pay him for 4 hour days till he works off those 1,859 hours.
He played the system got permission
Technically, he hasn't done anything wrong....... he's just played the system to get a part time position and then had authorisation to claim overtime....... now whether that overtime was actually carried out is a completely different matter.
The problem here is poor management and employee oversight........... typical of state/government bureaucracy where no one questions anything because they assume it is allowed/authorised already.
Exactly. He got his old bosses approval.
As usual, the government is on TOP of things. LOL!!!!!!!!!
Happens all the time, in state and federal agencies. Minor things like claiming you worked until 4 PM when you really went home at 2:45. My federal agency began time card audits for that reason, checking peoples' timecard against what time they badged in and badged out each day. It adds up and the taxpayer gets stuck paying the bill. There was a case here in Wash DC where a federal employee somehow convinced everyone he was going on temporary assignment to the CIA, and then sat home getting paid. Apparently none of his supervisors wondered why there wasn't the usual mountain of paperwork for a temporary assignment to another agency. In all of these cases there is either negligence or incompetence or worst case collusion by the person's supervisor and / or timekeepers. Another common form of fraud is working overtime. As a fed I can't just say I'm going to work extra hours this week, my boss has to state in writing why and how many hours I'm required to work overtime. But many state and especially local governments either don't know or don't care about employees deciding they're going to work extra hours. Cops abuse overtime pay rules all the time by working insane extra hours during their last year or two in order to wind up with ridiculous huge retirement pay. Different forms of the same thing -- fraud.
Another HUGE area of fraud in federal government is official travel. Any time we travel, say to Tampa or San Diego or over to London, part of the travel package is a written statement justifying the cost of travel, saying that the meeting has to be face to face and can't just be done by video teleconference, which in at least 90% of cases it could be done by teleconference or even just a phone call. Booking fist class tickets, booking luxury-class rental cars, etc. People who don't really have any valid reason to attend a conference going along anyway. Etc etc. It adds up.