Escaping Moroccan Occupation: The Sahara's Forgotten War (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2014
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In Part 1, we attend the 38th anniversary celebration of the proclamation of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. The Sahrawis celebrate this anniversary every year despite the facts that Morocco controls a third of their homeland and the parade takes place in Algerian refugee camps run by the Polisario.
At the celebration, we meet Sahrawi activist Sidahmed Talmidi, who, in October 2010, helped mobilize the Gdeim Izik protest camp near Laâyoune, the capital of occupied Western Sahara. Chomsky refers to the thousands of Saharwis who gathered there to demonstrate against both their unequal social and economic status and the brutal denial of their human rights as the real beginning of the Arab Spring.
Then Ahmed Salem, a war veteran and commander of the Polisario's 2nd Battalion, shows us around the makeshift refugee camps in the arid desert, where more than 100,000 Sahrawis who have escaped the Moroccan occupation have lived for nearly 40 years, relying on humanitarian aid and waiting for the chance to return to their homeland.
VICE News travels to Western Sahara's occupied and liberated territories, as well as the Polisario-run refugee camps in Algeria, to find out more about one of the world's least reported conflicts.
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The funny thing about these polisario people is that their leader is actually Moroccan lol
Where is your evidence lol
@@user-ph1gr1bq5p the evidence is his whole family is living in Morocco
@@othmanbk5252 You lie a lot. You always claim that the president of the Polisario is Moroccan and that the Sahrawis are Moroccans. If the Sahrawis are Moroccans, as the Moroccan regime says. Why do you reject the referendum, which is considered the finest form of democracy and a fair and transparent expression of the opinion of the Sahrawi people? The bottom line is that you are just occupiers. For a land that is not yours, no less or more, and what you are trying to do is just a hollow maneuver. It is enough to hold a referendum on the citizens who were found in Western Sahara before the Moroccan occupation and who were counted by Spain at the time to find out the falsehood of your allegations and lies
@@user-ph1gr1bq5p Its the UN that declared a refendum would be impossible , sahrawis used to live in nomad tribes they never had a state and it was deemed unfeasable to decide who is sahrawi and who is not
@@othmanbk5252 What is the name of the United Nations mission in Western Sahara? Isn’t Morocco disrupting the referendum? Stop being hypocritical, man. Laugh at someone else
So nobody learned from South Sudan, Eastern Timur, North Korea,... and that making an independent coutnry is not a game
+Levi Ackerman They are stupid.
Exactly it should stay moroccan
East Timorians never want to go back to Indonesia. South Sudan is poor because Sudan spent 30 years trying to destroy South Sudan during the civil war. North Korea lost 20% of its entire population during the Korean War and had zero trade relations with most of the world cuz the US hated them
without the military financial and logistical help of Algeria, the Sahara issue does not exist.
Sahara is Moroccan but free Palestine 🇵🇸
without france and saudi and isarel morocco can not resist one day fight. Viva la republica of western sahara and morocco is only a french creation and morocco was invented by the french general Hubert Leautey in 1956, there was no land called morocco before, also the name morocco is shamefull , it means silly and trivial name.
@@asiminordona1273 You talk without any basis or facts. 75% of Western Sahara is currently controlled by Morocco, and yet you claim that "there is no Morocco". I could say that Algeria was invented by Jacques Massu in 1958 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@asiminordona1273That's just wrong. Morocco comes from Marrakesh which is a millennial city. What are you talking about?
@@asiminordona1273
Morocco is the second oldest monarchy in the world joker 😂😂😂
Let's see who have been fighting Spain from 1860 to 1975.
In 1860, Moroccans lost against Spain during the Battle of Wad El Ras which led to the occupation of Sahara.
In 1898, a Mauritanian Sahrawi fighter and Imam, Ma El Ainin, pledged allegiance to the moroccan sultan of that time and received weapons from him so that he could fight against France in Mauritania. He is buried in Tiznit, Morocco.
In 1957, Moroccans from Guelmim and Sidi Ifni tried to liberate Sahara during the Ifni War against Spain and France.
70's Polisario was created.
END OF THE DEBATE.
Bravo and ma el ainin founded city of smart in order of the sultan to make it the base of the Moroccan sahraoui resistance
Vice always sides with the rebels (or self-styled "revolutionaries" when balaclavas and sunglasses are involved) no matter what the case. Gets old.
Not in Ukraine(thankfully).
Lol your butthurt i doubt the Moroccan goverment will allow them to video tape them
Them is the Moroccan goverment
not in afghanistan
Here they side with those who's country has been taken from them by force. When lets say Canada would invade the USA, would it be weird if they sided with the American freedom fighters?
They are most if not always politically correct when they take sides.
But you didnt precise what happened during the gdim izid protest, the loss of lifes on the Moroccan side and also the million dollars losses on infrastructures.
Shame to see this one sided opinion from a journal I like, hope I'm wrong on the next parts....
Would America accept Texas declaring itself independent? No. This is the same happening in Morocco. Plus, the moroccan sahara has always been a part of morocco and was always governed by the same sultans. The conflict began with spanish occupation which is a recent event comparing to the 1200 years old kingdom.
let's trying referendum to know what 's can do never western sahara was moroccan if want truth a original people home land
the same between what happened in Palestine and doing morocco in western sahara ,the British out Palestine and giving control to israel , and also spain leave western sahara for 35 % of fish and phosphate contract for 40 years with spain and some badly persons in congress , french Vito in UN everytime against sahrawi freedom
bakkar sidikhalil let us do a general counting of the real sahraoui in Polisario camps, not the algerians nor the Mauritanian, we need to know how much you are and than we will do a referendum, as simple as that
by the way Rguibat and other tribes give the Sultan Alwalaa till now, so if you got something to discuss talk with your tribes leaders first ;)
Jay Carney this is clearly not the same, going by your logic Morocco was not a legitimate country until February 1956 when it gain independence from France by that time Spain had complete control over Western Sahara when Morocco gained independence it only included the French and Spanish protectorate which was back when Morocco was a protectorate of both Spain and France and Western Sahara wasn’t included in there meaning that technically Western Sahara should belong to Spain since the were the first to claim it in 1884 and they are no historical documents that suggest that Western Sahara was a integrated part of Morocco before it became a country so I’m going to disagree with you there .
@@rey5087 really you don't know that morocco is the second oldest kingdom go learn some History😉
@@rey5087 morocco existed before the usa theonly country that could nt be occupied by the othmans wtf are u talking aby
100k of people want to own a country the size of Great Britain? Long live 🇲🇦
Lol
@@kipweit9634 sick L'OL
🇪🇭🇪🇭💪💪💪
dear vice, cover the israeli illegal occupation and war crimes! give the palestinian people a voice away from politics!
And what about russias illegal occupation of moscow?
dude, when it comes to the Israel issue.
Vice is pretty keen to show both sides pretty well.
Both sides get alot of exposure.
the same between what happened in Palestine and doing morocco in western sahara ,the British out Palestine and giving control to israel , and also spian leave western sahara for 35 % of fish and phosphate contract for 40 years with spain and some badly persons in congress , french Vito in UN every time against saharawi freedom
@@CeoLogJM no not really, they show only the palestinian one
There is no illegal occupation in israel.
Vice I think we would all love to see walk side by side the Syrian Army and get their perspective on the Syrian crisis. We have all heard the "rebel" side. Maybe you can be fair and independent? Doubt it
The Syrian government is notorious for locking up journalists, even in a context prior to the civil war.
According to a 2008 report by Reporters without Borders, "Journalists have to tightly censor themselves for fear of being thrown into Adra Prison."
***** I highly doubt with international pressure coming in at all angles the Syrian government would be kidnapping journalist, it is Vice's duty to get both sides of the story if not thats biased journalism, if Vice wants to be a non biased news outlet then they should go to the Syrian government and get their side, I mean come on Simon already was captured and was released I'm sure they have enough pull to be perfectly unharmed.. But then again they probably won't and just say they did
you should check out ANNA news. they have some incredible SA footage. youtube started censorin´em lately; the truth must hurt, i guess, but you can easily find´em on liveleak
VICE covered both Ukraine and Russian forces; what happened? Simon got captured because the Russians recognized him having posted videos where he interviews and talks to the Ukraine forces and battalions.
It's even worse for the SA who does not take kindly to any journalist at all.
Why can't you just stop being so fucking pretentious and take the videos as good footage of the war, if your opinion is that you dislike the rebels then these videos shouldn't get to you, just go to Liveleak.com and you'll get tons more footage of the rebels being dicks.
Or, shit, anywhere.. just google it.
The land was in fact occupied by Spain and never was a sovereign nation before. It has always been part of Morocco. But in 1975 the Moroccan people organised a march (The Green March) and liberated the Moroccan Sahara from the Spanish (Franco The Fascist Dictator). But General Franco had one last card to play before being kicked out of the Moroccan Sahara, which was to promise part of the population independence and also agree to the Moroccan masses their Sahara being returned to them. So when he left he knew this would happen.
Hahaha "green march" which came FROM Morocco, organized by the government to demand this land. The fact is that they saw a weak native population ruled by declining empire, so their objective was to get their voice overheard the Sahrawis and use excuses that previous dynasties ruled this land, but it had never incorporated until they invaded it. So cowardly as they are, they saw a clear chance of opportunism. The Sahrawis on the other part never got the chance to a referendum and it's certainly not Morocco to decide their fate.
the week before black march army moroccan attack samara ,and laayoune to tell world was peace that kind of shit people do not know peace probably coming for Rio de oro , was think is gold the in dakhla , that why in dakhla 90% settlement of moroccan
let's trying referendum to know what 's can do never western sahara was moroccan if want truth a original people home land
the same between what happened in Palestine and doing morocco in western sahara ,the British out Palestine and giving control to israel , and also spain leave western sahara for 35 % of fish and phosphate contract for 40 years with spain and some badly persons in congress , french Vito in UN everytime against sahrawi freedom
The Sahara People and northern Moroccan people are one people and one needs remember that the Maghreb (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia ect...) was one nation until it was divided up by the French and Spanish (DIVIDE & CONQUER, The old British method) (I know, I am British) Franco created this division because a united Morocco is not in the benefit of Franco's Spain. Now if the Polosario just didn't want to be ruled by the Moroccan Government then I understand that because the Moroccan Government is corrupt and do not serve its people and that's why the north of morocco hates the government also. but a divided nation is not in the best interest of the Sahara or the whole of Morocco. The best thing is for all the people, North, Central and south (Sahara) to unite, take control and create a united nation for all the People.
western sahara
Altered State of Mind The sahara is an integral part of morocco just as marrakech it's throught it that we had trade with west african kingdoms. And there was never a country there until spanish colonization took it and named it Rio de Oro.
Go learn history lil piggy
Sahara is morocco
Tabon make yawld l3ahira
Sahara its a part of Morocco since hundred years
Ikr
morocco didnt even exist lol
Algeria was made by ottaman empire and french
@@noone-qc4pb i can bring you right now a map, kings, documents, military clothes, even guns made by the Moroccan kingdom just from what I got at home. And if you just look online i bet you can find documents going back to 1000 years ago. Checkmate spaniard.
@@noone-qc4pb moroco is thousands years old algeria is created by france and turks you actualy dont belong there
As a spaniard, the man at 6:22's spanish is better than most southern spaniards!
Fucking unreal! His accent is also perfect! It's as if some man in the middle of Jamaica spoke british english!
u guys should invite them to ur country and they can become ur future footballers lol
you do understand that Jamaicans visit britian with some regularity if they don't live in america right? like speak with a British is even made fun of at times because people aren't too fond of foreigners
I'm gonna assume your using the wrong terms here man, cause Jamaican Creole is influenced by Scottish, English, with a dash of African in it.
Christopher Harriott jamaicans don't speak creole. creole is the broken french dialect made by haitians. jamaicans speak patoise which is the broken form of the english language. what he was saying was correct, he's stating that a broken spaniard speaking person speaking perfect spanish with correct accent is as amazing as a broken english speak person speaking perfect english with accents. which i might add is semi-false since almost everyone in jamaica can speak proper english and patoise.
it's because they grow up in Cuba www.thefreelibrary.com/Former+Saharan+Refugees+Recount+Life+in+Castro%27s+Schools+and...-a0136354727
this video is full of misconceptions
sahara is a part of morocco
the saharian people are totally melted into the moroccan society texture
And since when is Western Sahara part of Morocco, 38 years ago? And why did the ICJ recognize the right to their land if Western Sahara is part or Morocco?
since the movahidine dynasty era
you cant do that just because the french/spanish protectoriat
BTW i am sahrawi i am married to a girl from the north and my mother is from the middle sahara is part of morocco
and imagine if sahara got full independence .it will get very messy
algeria and spain are on it for the oil
Badreddine Amine I am not that familiar with history in the African continent, but I do know that there is something more when the ICJ recognizes the right to their land.
I think that your opinion could be somewhat biased in favor of the Moroccan government.
***** there are two sides to every story
vice went totally biased in this video
most sahrawis live in harmony in morocco
that number of refugees is imaginary and not real
the polisario army is populated by algerian army
get your shit together vice
if that were true, then they wouldnt have this problem.
This territory has been moroccan since hundreds of years before spanish occupation, and will remain by peace or war
yes brother of israel
تحلمون بالصحراء .
الصحراء مغربية ولو كره الانفصاليين.
Fun fact: Morocco was the very first country to recognize the United States, all the way back in 1777.
What does that have to do with anything ? The us is neutral in this conflict and believes in bilateral negotiations.
@@tpicard88 Trump actually returned the favor by recognizing the ‘western sahara’ as moroccan territory.
@@user-er6vc7hh1l it wasn't a favor there are no favors in politics he did that for exchange that morroco normalize relations with israel
"I the1950s Morocco was the first ever to demand the UN to look into ending
the Spanish occupation of its southern territories, at the time you
would not find Polisario in any dictionary. in the 1960s Morocco entered direct negotiations with Spain when spain left, the area was left to Mauritania and Morocco the only two countries who had any rights over the region, they settled their borders. Algeria was never included in the negociations, that left them with this grudge because they've always dreamed to have a pipeline that would go straight to the Atlantic, thus their creation of the so called "polisario", they armed them, gave them refuge and let them loose on Morocco. most sahrawis are moroccan citizens, their leader(abdelaziz) who's been in that position for some 30 years(so much for democracy) was born in Marrakech, Morocco. try interviewing sahrawis without an escort from the so called Gov official, you can not(North korea all over). I say you've been had, you've been bamboozeled. I like VICE, I watch all your stuff, I don't you were biaese on purpose. I won't be surprised if the lady commentator is spanish and buys into the polisario propaganda."
The Sahara is Moroccan, there's no doubt about it and it's just a mater of time until it will be officially recognized, and GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
ILLEGAL invasion by Morocco.Where are the heavy fines for Morocco?
@@zjbfsrdbv9364 What poison are you on, good lad? Have you perhaps lost your good consciousness to state such disappointing and such biased facts? According to the UN, Morocco was granted the rightful claim to "reclaim" its lands. So what are you referring to? Spain, just apparently recognised Moroccan sovereignty on the land. I am confused, care to elaborate good sir?
@@walessius818 please read more about the history of this land and the people who owned it. It doesn't matter which political institution is granting or not granting the land to a country which is aggressive in such ways that it builds one of the longest defence walls in the world full of mines and other crazy stuff. If you would read history, instead of insulting other people to be on poison, then this could be an interesting conversation. However it seems that it lacks both good knowledge and education in your personality. You can argue whatever you want, it doesn't change the fact that Morocco illegally invades western Sahara.
@@walessius818 anyway, I had a short look at your profile. And it is obvious, you're not the right person to even offer any opinion about this case. For me a good conversation would be with a historian, not with a gamer.
Morocco can't fight to freed Ceuta and Melilla but they fight against these innocent people.
Morocco manage to take full control on 1960 for cueta and melila but the u.n forced Morocco to return to spain
@@nickchuck7933 by morroco defenders logical that is good
Here's an idea, I'm going to go live in the desert for 40 years and continue to drape scarves and robes all over my body while I walk around in the Sahara desert.
sahara is moroccan pre-colonization era. Morocco was split into 4 regions : Tangier "international", Spanish north "rif region", French center, and spanish southern provinces "sahara" including mauretania.
Finaly a female reporter that is not just doing fashion week.
***** yes.
justhateme israel hahahaaha xD
+justhateme israel FROM ISRAHELL.
بقايا تابع الدعم الإنساني الصحراء المغربية وليست غريبة
الصحراء في مغربها إلى أن يرث الله الأرض وماعليها
ههههههه نصف الصحراء الغربية محررة بقي نصف الاخر فقط
@@manal9348 هم موجودون على حدود الجزائر خخخخخخخ
@@manal9348 lol in your dreams bestie, watch out the drones wil get you before you even consider crossing the borders, hhhhhhhhh talking about half the territories
يستاهلو الخونة عاش الملك محمد السادس والموت للخونة دعات الفتن ما ظهر منها وما بطن عاش الملك محمد السادس نصره الله والصحراء مغربية
???
ههههه عياشي
why are all female vice reporters complete hipsters?
all male reporters are hipster too
haha thats true, except the guy doing the iraq/israel reporting seems more like a hipster/prepschool hybrid.
Xavier Toussaint
yeah i've got a lot of respect for him and all the vice correspondents, especially Simon. Getting kidnapped and beaten up by thugs for three days is the real short end of the journalistic stick
hipster how?
You want uptight, stony faced non-hipsters go watch Fox news. Oh, wait...that's right.
For those of you who don't know why this is a hard-to-solve conflict. After French & Spanish occupation was kicked out of Morocco then Algeria. The two nations had a problem deciding on the borders. Algeria suggested that both nations should stick to the border drawn by occupation while Morocco refused to give up on "his lands" (many documents & maps show the real size of Morocco). Then the Moroccan people organized the famous "Green March", where Moroccans walked (yeah, really walked) from all places of the country to the Sahara (was occupied by Spain there) to liberate these lost territories. As a Moroccan, I'm ready to give up my last breath fighting for this just cause and end the enemy's dream of dividing the people of two brother nations !
Algeria and Morocco are brother nations too, this whole conflict is petty.
@@HookedonChronics yeah we're brothers yet they algerians with their shitty governement want to divide morocco
@@HookedonChronics cold war proxy conflict imo
مكيف تقابل الله وانت تقاتل اخوك المسلم علي صحراء قاحلة اتقي الله وخليك من التعصب الاعمي
The sahrawi people of Western Sahara are not Moroccan. They literally have their own culture and dialect separate from Morocco and that’s why they want independence. Morocco’s claim to Western Sahara is antiquated and does not respect the people living there RIGHT NOW. Why doesn’t Turkey claim most of the Middle East if historical claims are so important to you? Why doesn’t Egypt claim north Sudan since those were previously lands of ancient Egypt? You see historical claims should never be used as a pretext for colonization/invasion because then the whole world would be at war using that logic. The Western Sahara border drawn by Spain at least more closely respected ethnic and linguistic differences between the kingdom of Morocco and the tribal sahrawi people.
Why is he speaking Spanish in Africa? Lol
Western Sahara used to be a Spanish colony called Rio de Oro. Many educated people there are bilingual in Arabic and English/French/Spanish
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***** That's an interesting way to put it haha
I hear French.
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Why hasn't anyone blamed the Jews yet? Me first?
You mean the Zionists
sattof Maroc Same thing, Zionist - believer that Jews have a home in Israel with Jerusalem as its capital. Sooooo kinda missing me there.
myyoutubeusername No some Jews hate Zionisms have you seen the Protest in New York where thousands of Jews protested against the state of Israel?
F145h1 exactly 100 of them of out millions, yep lets focus on those.
this is truly a forgotten war. never heard of this conflict also cant get used to Africans speaking Spanish. my ignorance is great. bow before it
And what about Africans speaking French and Portuguese? Did you really think Africans only speak English (besides their own native languages)?
robto he is very arrogent
*****
I know about it, im Danish - In denmark there have been solidarity groups since the 70s that in some way or another have sought to act in support of the West saharians
I like how you confess to being ignorant, it actually shows how smart you are. You might not have known about it but now you do. As for why I know about it, well I'm moroccan :P. Haha no but it really is forgotten and needs to end. You know the northern part of morocco (rif) it's inhabited by riff berbers also speaks spanish.
@@EmilReiko in the time of occupiation of morroco by france/spaine there was tribal war alongsid the political war lead by the king hassan 2 and his father
Yet once morroco gained independece the opposition party in morroco with the help of algeria formed the front of polisario at first was only a demenstration in morroco but it evolved into a front with the backing of nighbor contryes and that is the real history that you and the sahraweis don't see look at the jewl of sahara today laauoun and how it got developed and became a land mark inbetween the dunes said a lot about who is wining and who is losing keep in mind you don't lose a right fight
Interesting, I've read a little about Morocco and wikied the Spanish Sahara once, but I believe this is the first time I've heard of the conflict. Looking to hear the story from the other side in one of the upcoming parts. Anyway its back to the books for me, gonna figure out everything I can about this conflict.
Spanish sahara🤣🤣 never heard that one ever... moroccan ok algerian ok but spanish😂
@@marcelhenselijn7361 It was a Spanish colony until 1975 called Spanish Sahara.
@@thomato2186the spanish was in Moroccan saraha but now it's became for moroccan like it was before
@@jamilaerraji1993 👍 I was just explaining why @baronvonwolf1457 mistakenly called it "Spanish Sahara".
*Western Sahara Is Moroccan*
+Mr Razex TM There is no Western Sahara. There is only Morocco and its southern provinces of Sahara.
freewal :) Yes
Sahara is Spanish
hahahahaahhah no -_-
freewal daaaamn xdddd well said
3:08 Why not show the full footage of paramedics and law enforcers' bodies being decapitated and pissed on? Truly a shame as you never bothered to even recount the story.
It never happened, that's just ridiculous.
rediculous journanism ... Occupied ? just answer this .. since when ? name a year ? ...
Reality : a couple of thousands people want to create their own nation and take a huge territory ( almost half of morocco ) .. if this is how it works than we would have 1800 nations by 2015
The sahara is moroccan and it will be as it forever
Tangier La Gouera = Morocco ! And it will always be ;)
Minute 4:40 the music that sounds in the background is my mom's band's song her band was named "Shehid al Lwali" in honor of the first president of our republic
WHich republic ? Fake republic ? Your first fake president, was a moroccan student with a marxist ideology, he raped a lot of women, killed many moroccan and mauritanian civilans, even his polisbel friends he killed them. He was a criminal and he was killed by his own polisbal friends on the Algerian side (he was on Gadafi side.) You bastard will pay the price for the crimes you did.
Heck of Algeria and Spain, the Sahara is Moroccan!
How do those women yell like that? The allaalalalaa or whatever sound; it's just something that piques my curiosity.
It's a cultural thing that's meant to show joy. They do it by screaming while simultaneously shaking their tongues sideways.
it's a Magherib thing. though I know how to do it. I'm American btw and a dude. lol it was something I learned how to do when I was in Peace Corps. All of the PCVs learned how to do it. weddings, celebrations parties. when you hear that sound in your neighborhood. it means go to the source cuz it's a party :D
It's done all across the Middle East and North Africa trust me. Every country.
+Young Lion and eritrea at weddings everywhere haha
Sahara is Moroccan... even the camels know this
+Abdulkariem Al-Bertaali Bullshit. Live Islam in peace.
Abdulkariem Al-Bertaali Read about the life of Muhammed. He only attacks to defend himself and he lived with "nassrani" and jews ...
Blow youself up, Islam means peace. in general those surahs about unbelievers was during the time of Muhammed the group was attacking them, they called them the unbelievers during the time.
Did you know After the Mexican-American war, the US took 1/3rd of Mexico's land. At the time Texas was an independent nation. The US using this newly acquired land annexed Texas. So according to this video Texas has moral rights to independence.
having lived in morocco this is one issue that had always appeared. it's quite volatile.
guys, go search for the morocan dinasty it was big and reaching to senegal, also we didnt invade the sahara we did liberate it from the spanish occupation, read about the green march! the polisario are an armed militia funded by the Algerian regime, look for Tindof its controled by the polisario and the Algerians, they keep ppl there like a prison not letting theme get out of there. also this probleme does not stand just btw the moroccans and the polisario, the spanish the algerians and lybians regimes all wants a piece of that sahara, the sahara is Moroccan.
This is not occupation, this is disputed territory. Go read a history book Vice, I am kind of disappointed knowing what a great channel this is.
That spanish caught me off guard haha
That area was apart of Spain until the 70s. That’s why.
@@zalaegerszeg9527
" part of spain" 😂😂😂
They should have a referendum, for every man and woman to vote on the territory future, good for everyone?
Hah
Ukraine...
the situation there is away more complicated than that,I hope that you know what the problem is ? if not ,you can't make a suggestion based on an 8 min video!
Younes Katti gee please stop talking nonsense , Crimea has also one , but it doesn't mean anything !
That's just not how it works, no nation will cede land under the basis of a referendum ever you guys are deluded
This is a one-sided documentary.
You guys should know that the Polisario is controlled and funded by the Algerian government. Polisario is Algeria's most powerful weapon in Western sahara and its purpose is to get an access to the atlantic Ocean.
You guys are talking to the wrong population.
Just make sure to talk to both parts next time you tackle a subject like this one.
Ah the UN, taking care of business as usual.
Like it or not, using big words like "occupied" doesn't change the fact that this land has always been the rightful property of the Kingdom of Morocco (and it's historical predecessors) for centuries.
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Its amazing the amount of people there are in the Sahara givens its barren wasteland conditions. I wonder what their food is and how they get it?
The Sahara is Moroccan, recognized by America🇲🇦💪♥️🇺🇸
Free Western Sahara 🇪🇭
Sorry. I can't care about this many problems. Put down your guns. Don't revolt. Come to the US. It might help if you converted to Christianity.
Nah they totally love muslims in the USA. Especially when they build mosques anywhere near Manhattan.
I thought AeroDoe was half joking about. But it's easier to come to the USA when you convert, that's pretty much a fact.
MrCurlykid1 Insulting people's personality doesn't really help to make them think.
AeroDoe Look, a "Christian" threatening violence. Lol, you are a pathetic coward. Please, post your address tough guy, I'll be right over. O no address in your reply? Awww didn't think so you Nancy. Fail more please.
MrCurlykid1 Wouldn't start judging people little boy. You're doing the same thing #hypocriteattherebest
AeroDoe You are the one that jumped to making physical threats but when it comes time to make good you didn't come up with an address. If you want to make good on your threat please you can just private message me your address, hell I'll even agree to meet you at neutral location of your choosing Nancy. Don't make threats your trailer park ass can't back up. All it takes is a post of your RUclips username and a small cash bounty on TOR and your entire online world comes tumbling down.
this is not illegal occupation it's just disputed land
I dont know why many people in thhe comment section of vice videos keep saying that vice give byass and one sided views , i mean in many of their videos they are there to cover the news and in most videos they never even talk and just show clips of what the people around them think .
This is one of the worst one sided documentary vice came up with, Morocco does not "occupy" it's own lands, vice needs basic lessons in history and politics.
Morocco was one of the first American allies and first countries to recognize us. If their rightful claim to the Sahara is not enough, the history of our two countries should be enough. The Southern Provinces are Moroccan, period.
What the f are u talking about the us has taken a neutral side in this conflict dude and believes that only bilateral negotiations could resolve it. Also Morocco recognized the us for geopolitical reasons not by virtue or belief in the principles that founded this nation. If anything they stand for the opposite.
Aren't you ashamed of yourselves? why would you want to split Morocco into two halfs? Sahara is Moroccan no matter you like it or not!
Berbers of West Sahara aren’t treated well by Morrocans. That’s why.
@@zalaegerszeg9527 whithout substantial proof of this « bad treatment » compared to the rest of Moroccans, i’ll call BS,
And, Moroccan saharawis are arabs not berbers...
Wow very unbiased and fair story not taking any sides... not.
Le sahara marocain depuis toujours !!!!🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦
Holy smokes Milène Larsson is beautiful!!!
it's not Western Sahara it's Moroccan Sahara.
c'est une terre marocaine.
انها أرض مغربية بالتاريخ والجغرافيا والقانون والواقع.
Commentator : "The sahrawi people have been protesting for the oppression and human rights violence of the Moroccan state"
Also Polisario : *proceeds to arm little kids and push them into the battlefield*
This cheap copy of Israeli propaganda won’t work, Western Sahara isn’t Moroccan, cope
Ohh c'mon vice news where's the historical evidence, and also LIVE THE MOROCCAN SAHARA
Morocco has all the right to get its own territory from precolonial era. They came and devided us now they sending journalists to report human right , why dont you go investigate all massacres done by france in north africa which created all these borders.
We have same genetics culture and religion where do u see invasion
That's obviously not a refugee camp it's a hostage, they don't have the basic simple that makes a refugee refugee like an ID card, 45 years and no single home was built by the Algerian authorities, that's a shame. The Sahara is Moroccan forever and ever :D
SHOCKING ....How come the reporter speak about human rights violations when the Polisario front is using children as soldiers ??????? and VICE are filming them happily.
How can you use 'Democratic Republic' when all what we see is a bunch of oppressed people with no rights living on the Algerian soil?
عاش الملك وعاشة الصحراء المغربية والشعب المغربي الحر بالشعار الخالد الله الوطن الملك 🇲🇦❤️🇲🇦
حتى الشعار الخالد اسباني كما تحتلون ارض الغير سلط عليكم الله من يحتلكم و يهينكم في الطرف الاسباني
Whenever someone asks me about the definition of biased media, i show them this report, the audacity to call it "occupied" while even the UN doesn't call it that LOL
What's the name of that song when the children are singing?
I wonder what Spain and France think about the whole situation.
This really is a forgotten war, sadly.
It can't be forgotten if nobody really knew of it to begin with.
Lucius Albinus Yah this is the first time i have ever heard of this war, I think i asked my geography teacher about that country. And he just said it was contested territory.
TheEmhalo
contested territory means war. Morocco totally claims it to the point where if you enter Morocco with a world map showing Western Sahara as separate then they will confiscate it if you refuse to give it up the they deport you on the spot.
TheEmhalo I was taught that it was simply part of the desert an nobody lived there, so that's why it was striped and not colored in. (this was when I was about 9, never after that bothered about it. Until I saw this)
Well, i knew there low-intensity war going on there, but i also have to admit this is the first documentary i have ever seen about it
Free sahara
Silly to say but have to point out on how attractive the reporter is. It's so odd that I've never heard of this ongoing conflict.
Do they generally speak Spanish there? I was surprised to understand what that 1 guy was saying without subtitles because he was speaking Spanish.
morocco didnt occupy the sahara, its was always Moroccan.
look at the old maps of Morocco before the spanish or french occupation.
Seriously... what the fuck do they eat?
annat dhahbi really? they'd all be overweight. so that can't be
annat dhahbi lol. no worries. but they're getting "aid". not necessarily eating native food...so I ask again... wtf are they eating?
+davdavc From their algerian masters. Polisario are the puppets of the Algerians.
Attn. Vice News: please correct your statement: the correct one is "Algerian refugee camps run by Algeria".
isn't this literal propaganda? painting Mrocco as an "evil occupation force" and painting the SADR as the "poor good guys".
Exactly LOL
Freedom and independence for saharawi! Support from China.💪💪 A famous Chinese famale story writer Sanmao（三毛） introduced El Aaiun and the beautiful Western Sahara to millions of her readers when she used to live with her husband Jose there in El Aaiun for couple years❤❤❤❤❤❤
Freedom and support for tibetans Support from morocco! You fuckin hypocrite! Lol
Free the uygursss
free hong kong
@@jackal25301? Hong Kong is literally a city stolen from china by the british after the opium wars.
Free uyghurs free hong kong
It's part of Morocco.
WESTERN SAHARA IS A COUNTRY....NOT A COLONY OF MOROCCO!
ILLEGAL invasion by Morocco.Where are the heavy fines for Morocco?
Seriously guys the sahrawi people are moroccans they are arabs and berbers like us they have the same rights as us and they have the right to back to morocco and western sahara was à part of morocco for hundreads of years check history
CuriousFear They took it through intense human rights violations.
yes its a part of morocco
Spain should have gone through with Franco's orders when he told them to invade Morocco in 1975
Want to hear our part from the story?
No thank you, we had enough of Ayacha 😂
@@freesaharaui4140 fkhbark momkine tkone moroccan o matkonch 3ayach sir l tindouf
@@samk41156 sir tl3ab minicraft mal sahara li Amaliha
sahara is moroccan
The end of story
Oh hell no. It has it's rights if Apple knows that🇪🇭
+Dynamo 123 🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭
how come most conflicts these days happen in sand-rich countries?
Many of the grass rich countries had their wars earlier. (like 60 years ago)
Morocco got a stable economy & ressources, they aren't rich.
abouda03 Although They have one of the best foods in the world.
Ill give em that.
Alfred Simcik Might be right.
My comment was meant to indicate how short ago it was that there was war in non-sandy regions.
So more wars in these areas would only strengthen my point :)
Because of a disease called Islam
bullshit! you have just said the one lying side of the story did you asked them how they help alqaida in the north africa? do you want to separate the moroccan sahara and create another south soudan full of terorism ? go to alyoun dakhla and other cities in sahara and asked them they all want to be attached to morocco because what they are looking for is stability health care schools ... that polisario can't never afford to them
Is that song at 6:05 from Tobias.?
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Sahara Maghribia!!! Allah, Al Watan, Al Malik !!!!
Good luck convincing people that that person "paid" the moroccan army to let him pass the 2700KM wall of land mines and lived to tell the tale. Good luck
Its crazy and frustated for morocco that you must fight what belongs to you
It is not occupied by morocco, it's morrocan land.❤ Therefore it is impossible to declare a Republic on other people's land.
From Tangier to Lagouira☝🏾🇲🇦🇲🇦
In your dream greater Morocco my asss 😂😂😂😂
@@mohamedwaititi6192could say the same to you 😂
Seems like another Israel-Palestine situation
The side note of this conflict is the fact that American allies are usually able to get away from messy/ dirty conflicts, while Chinese and Russian allies would usually get killed or captured as dictators should.
Thank you for reporting on this VICE, it really deserves more attention.
A complete ignorance from the journalist, who did not even think about making a very small research about the real situation, and tried to bring some arguments from the opposite side. I stopped watching the video from the moment you said IZDIK was ran by polizario, well it is not, some members of polizario were there, but it does not make them, leader of this protest. There were some violence at this event, however, again the journalist, couldn't even google it, to find many videos where Moroccan policemen were killed and tortured and nobody from polizario was injured. The policemen were even unarmed :)
Why they make that turkey noise ?
Illegally occupied by Morocco ? Seriously Vice ? I understand, after all you guys need money and Morocco didn't give you any unlike these guys ..