Daniel Smith Color Showdown Ep. 10: Quinacridone Pink vs Quinacridone Rose vs Quinacridone Magenta
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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This is the final episode in the series comparing two very similar Daniel Smith watercolors through swatches. Learn the differences between the two colors, which one you should pick for your palette, or find out that they are both worth having!
In this episode, we compare my absolute favourite color in the whole world - Quinacridone Rose, with Quinacridone Pink and Quinacridone Magenta.
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** Supplies I used **
+ Quinacridone Pink (Daniel Smith) www.jacksonsar...
+ Quinacridone Rose (Daniel Smith) www.jacksonsar...
+ Quinacridone Magentas (Daniel Smith) www.jacksonsar...
+ Aureolin (Holbein) www.jacksonsar...
+ Quinacridone Gold (Daniel Smith) www.jacksonsar...
+ Cadmium Red Orange (Holbein) www.jacksonsar...
+ Scarlet Lake (Holbein) www.jacksonsar...
+ Quinacridone Violet (Holbein) www.jacksonsar...
+ Ultramarine Violet (Schmincke) www.jacksonsar...
+ Ultramarine Blue (PenholderArtUK) www.etsy.com/u...
+ Phthalo Blue Yellow Shade (Holbein) www.jacksonsar...
+ Phthalo Turquoise (Daniel Smith) www.jacksonsar...
+ Permanent Green No. 1 (Holbein) www.jacksonsar...
Papers
+ Bockingford 140lb CP watercolor paper www.jacksonsar...
+ Bockingford 140lb HP watercolor paper www.jacksonsar...
+ Bockingford 140lb Rough watercolor paper www.jacksonsar...
+ Arches 140lb CP watercolor paper pad www.jacksonsar...
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Quin pink is really good for botanicals. It makes some lovely peach colours mixed with nickel titinate and is a decent replacement to for opera rose.
Great tip! Thanks!
This episode might have run two years ago, but wow, it still holds true today. I’m so glad I found you Dr. Kano! This is such an eye opening demonstration, thank you.
PR122, PV42 and PV19 are so similar! PV19 may sometimes lean a tiny tiny bit towards blue a bit more, but differs a lot, even within the same brands. PV42 is, in my opinion, the most magenta-like one when using a CMY-palette. As you say, the lesser tinting strength of PV42 makes it easier to use for controlled mixing. Schmincke labels its PV42 as magenta.
Great to know! I’m currently using PR122 in my CMY palette, but I’ll definitely give PV42 a go for a few paintings!
Actually Pthalo Green with a Quin Rose gets you a purple! It's gorgeous ... and thank you so much for this. Quin Rose is a classic for a reason. It's just a gorgeous and such a good mixer.
Yes! Purple is a much better way of describing the color of that mix. Thank you Alejandro. Thanks for always having my back :)
i guess it's pretty randomly asking but does anyone know of a good site to watch new movies online?
It looks like Quin Pink would be a nice, lightfast alternative to Opera Pink. It mimiks Opera's fluorescent quality pretty well.
i came to this video in search of an answer, and I think I'll follow your advice :-).
Lovely idea, I’ll try using my Quin Pink the same way!
I really love quin pink, for some reason (even if it's incredibly similar to quin rose). I like the mixes it made and it's a great primary magenta color! And it gauzes ♥
Thanks for this wonderful series, it was great to see all the paints being tested in the same way and yield all kinds of result. I can't wait for series 2 ;)
The quin pink is lovely, it's a much softer pink 🧡I know, I was so surprised when it gauzed!
Excellent comparison. I see that Daniel Smith makes at least 7 Quin hues that are possibly similar: coral, fuchsia, lilac, magenta, pink, red, and rose. Wow! It seems a bit overwhelming, but I suppose there are artists that would claim each of these as their favorite hue.
yes I find their vast range of quins quite overwhelming too, but also fun to discover them :D
Quin rose is still the ONLY Daniel Smith colour I own, and every time i use it, I think of you. Honestly, most of what I know about my pigments is all thanks to you! Thank you for being such a wonderful teacher. I don't think I would paint the same if I never found your videos!
I don't really like pinks and reds so much... but I LOVE Quin. Rose. So much. I also love how it mixes with Indanthrone! A nice purple that doesn't granulate! I'm used to mixing Quin. Rose with Ultramarine and I didn't even think about Indanthrone! You did such a great job on this series! All the love to you Oto!
Aw thank you so much Grace! Coming from you, it means so much :) So glad you have discovered Quin Rose + Indanthrone!
Personally quina pink is my favourite of the three. It's great when playing with a CMYK palette!
Thank you so much or doing this exercise! I follow an artist who uses Quin Pink. I have Quin Rose in my palette (which I also LOVE) and also I use the Schmincke Purple Magenta pr122 so I was curious on how that compared to the DS magenta. I haven't wanted to buy the pink because it seemed so similar, and only sampled it from the DS dot card. I LOVE the way you sample the colors so thoroughly. Great season. Thank you again. I use my Quin Rose in florals & mostly alone or mixed with various blues - ultramarine. I love to use it next to Undersea Green, or Sleeping Beauty Turquoise!
Yes they are so similar, I had no clue what their differences were until making this video too!
I can't believe I've gone this long without quinacridone rose on my palette, but I should be adding it soon! I love quinacridone colours so much. One day I'll have them all. One day!
Also, this episode could be the quickest way to get drunk in a drinking game ever: Take a shot every time Oto says quinacridone. 😉
oh my goodness Ley! How did you survive without Quin Rose!?!??! I can send you a little half pan to try if you'd like :)
One day you’ll have them all! That made me think of Pokémon for some reason? I completely agree with you, and have begun my own quest to “catch ‘em all”!! 😂
As for a “quinacridone” drinking game, I can only imagine! Queen *hic* weed own? LOL
Oto Kano Oh my gosh, you're so sweet! I have quin rose on the way from an online art store, but anytime you wanna trade some paints you just let me know. 💜
I'm always up for paint swaps :) But I've had huge delays on two packages being delivered (one to Canada and one to Germany), so I am holding off posting anything until those two show up. Sade is still waiting for her paints, and I posted them to her several days BEFORE she posted hers to me for our colab :(
There are a lot of colors I'm not interested in tho, like lot of the browns :S
Ohhhh, I think this is my favorite set of this series!!! I usually am pretty torn between Quin Rose and Quin Red. I usually end up with both of them. :]
woooo I'll have to give Quin Red a go!
Everyone talks about the rose , but this is the first time I have seen the Pink. I actually like the rose the least, thank you for this I know now that the pink and magenta are much more my style than the rose. I absolutely love the purples that you were able to mix with the pink, and the dee colors that were made with the magenta. I cannot wait to try these!
so glad you got to see the other two colors. They are all equally lovely really. Hope you have lots of fun with them :)
I've used DS Quin Rose for a long while, but not a fan of it because it fades after it's fully dry and then looks a bit dull, especially for a quin. Looking forward to trying quin pink instead, it looks like a gorgeous and truer pink.
Well according to jane blundell quin rose is listed as a bit more lightfast than quin pink, so there's the deciding factor for me. :)
I just got the Quin Magenta before watching this video because I have a Quin rose by another brand and wanted closest to the true Yumbry primary. I think the Daniel smith Quin rose looks even more fantastic so I will seriously consider eventually getting it. I can't wait for it to come in the mail! Fun and useful video thanks!
Thank you again! Have always the the Quins and use them always but all the comparisons has made it make soooo much since to me. I will be supporting your patreon!
This was so fascinating. I like the depth of colors with the rose best but loved the gauzing with the pink. You are right, both are necessary. Thank you.
Eee, thanks for doing this Oto! I use Quin Rose myself, but have the Quin Magenta CS next week and John Muir Laws loves Quin Pink. This shed a little more light I suppose, although they're all still so similar haha. I'll stick with Quin Rose (Daniel Smith and Mission Gold are my favorites), but am looking forward to trying out Quin Magenta soon! Thanks so much for doing this series!
YES! I am feeling a Quin Rose sisterhood brewing in this community :D I can see why John Muir Laws prefer the pink. It's a lot more subtle color, the most subtle amongst the quins. So it would be more usable in natural settings. I haven't tried Mission Gold's Quin Rose, do you think it's better than DS?
Oto, you are a marvel! I have learned so much from this series in such a short time. By chance I dived into DS primatek just before you started these comparisons, all for the colour of course! But had little idea what I might want to do with them, and now I know! Well done for presenting these comparisons in such a lovely accessible way. 💐💐💐
I'd have to revisit both, Oto. I know that I fell in love hard with the Mission Golds when I first used it and DS came much later. I haven't used DSs much because I dont have a tube, just a sample. I'll see if I can send you some Mission Gold with your painting.
So so glad this series have been useful to you! Thank you so much for watching them :D
Aw thank you so much. That'll be amazing & interesting. Thank you Denise. I'll let you know what I think of it compared to my dear beloved DS Quin Rose.
I'd get Quinacridone Lilac once I'm able, I just love the bluer pinks for mixing purples. But currently, Quin. Rose is my warm pink.
Wooo yes, Quin Lilac is only my shopping list too.
To me, Quin. Red, Quin. Pink & Quin. Rose are more similar. If you were to remake this mashup, I certainly wouldn’t turn away!
I loved this series can’t wait till season 2. The quin pink is a good alt for opera as it’s not as intense and better lightfastness, quin rose (PV 19) is a must on any palette and when mixed with veridian for a granulating neutral tint or pthalo green for a non-granulating neutral tint ...I prefer veridian it’s the only green on my palette and only ever used in mixes ( quin rose is also a mix only color for me and never used on its own.) Keep up this beautiful series its a must for the community! Thanks for all your effort.
Aw thank you so very much :) I'm very excited for season 2 too :D So glad that this series have been useful to so many people, it makes me feel very humbled.
What a truly wonderful colour comparison course! Brilliantly conceived and executed Oto! I had to rest in bed yesterday and today, and your marvellously instructive videos have made an uncomfortable day into a joy! I only discovered you this morning, and I am in awe of your commitment and knowledge. I must now find your finished paintings, which will be so exciting! Thank you for all of it! Angela M.
Aw Angela, thank you so much for finding this channel & watching the videos. Hope you are feeling better today.
I really appreciate your shows. I do learn so much. There are a lot of things I wouldn't even think to consider and many things I am pleasantly surprised in learning since I am new to watercolor. Love your shows!
Thank you very much for the very comprehensive comparisons and explanations of similar colours. This is very helpful, but I have never heard of gauzing 🤔
Thanks to Sketching Scarlet I discovered your channel and I've binge watched your entire series and I'm so happy to know more now haha
Thank you so much for coming over & checking out the series :D
I'm familiar with Quin. Magenta and like it a lot, I think I'll pick up Quin Pink or Quin Rose as well, I love pinks and they're gorgeous colors. Thanks for doing these videos, can't wait for season 2!
So glad you've been enjoying this series, thank you so much for watching!
You ended the season with bang: three colours who are so, so similar and equally beautiful that choosing between them is like choosing a favourite child! 😊 I don't have any of the DS colours but I think I do own at least Quin Rose and Quin Magenta from Schminke, Maimeriblu and White Nights. Interestingly Maimeriblu uses PV49 in their Sap Green. As I'm already in bed with an awful headache, so I won't check any of the White Nights pigments (they often use quite unusual ones in their paints) or try any effects with the MB sap green.
This has been an immensely interesting series, I've waited all your uploads with enthusiasm and been rewarded every time. So thanks once again Oto! ❤
Aw so sorry to hear that you are going through a bad headache :( Really hope it goes away this instant! Never tried Maimeriblu, but I like that they have a different take on traditional pigment choices. Thank you so so much for watching and commenting on every single video, you are amazing!
Gosh seeing this has me swooning for Quinn rose all over again!
I watched this episode because of the link arleebean put in her upload featuring the holbein paints that you gifted her. That was really sweet of you.
Also, I like the quinacridone rose the best too. I am a fairly new artist in spite of my age. Well, better late than never, lol. I recently went to the Daniel Smith store in Seattle and it was glorious. If only I could live there. Lol. Anyhow, I am so glad that Arleebean linked your channel because I like it and can learn from you. Thank you for this upload. - Diane
Thank you so much for coming over from arleebean :D oh my goodness, you went to the MOTHERSHIP!? 😍I bet it was heavenly! Thank you for watching the video.
I use Quin Pink, or rather I use Schmincke's version of this pigment which is just called Magenta
I wonder if the high movement you encountered in the Quin pink is why it gauzed so well. Since the gauze absorbs the paint, more of the wash will rush in where it’s been sucked up by the gauze, so you end up with none of it left behind in the spaces? Maybe? Does that make sense?
Thanks for this comparison; I'm definitely going for Quin Magenta as my pink. I mostly do people/clothes so I love the deep colors and the mixes you made with QM here
You are such an angel for making these videos!!! I can not explain how much these videos have helped me in making such important (expensive) decisions on which paint to invest in!!!! You are so deeply appreciated!
Oh you are so welcome :D So glad you can choose with confidence after this video!
I have all 3 and love them differently but want to start using my pink more after seeing this. I probably use magenta the most.
all three!
I have peemanent rose from Winsor and Newton. Perfect rose color :) and other florals when you mix it. and is also good for a bright pink that is lightfast. I also use quin. Magenta from White Nights.
I find that my quin magenta from winsor and newton looks really similar to DS quin rose. In the way it mixes too.
Thanks to you for this series! They were very helpful for me at the very least. I have quin rose in my little DS palette just because I saw so many videos of Denise from in liquid color using the color hehe. But I get to know from one of your videos that quinacridone colors are meant to be transparent so that was a plus. I think, whenever I have the opportunity, I might grab perylene violet after seeing the showdown video you did :D!
Perylene Violet is a beautiful color. Hope you enjoy it :)
Me too! I adore Denise’s videos and found Oto from her channel 😊❤
Quin rose has always been my favorite too..with quin magenta a close second! Great video 🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
So glad we agree! :D
Wonderful end to season 1! Thank you so much for doing this! I've learned so much from these videos and look forward to seeing more from you soon!
Thank you for watching the series :)
Thank you so much for these videos. I am new to professional watercolor so this is really helpful.
You are so welcome, hope you have fun trying these colors out.
Thanks again Oto, another great informative video :) This series was amazing, well done! We have all learned a tonne by this!
Aw thank you so much. So glad you've enjoyed this series. Thank you for alwasy watching and always commenting on each one of them!
Another wonderful comparison! I wouldn't know, which to choose... but I'm very special about the pinks and magentas... I don't like them as a color and often forget, that I need them in my palette for mixes and miss them badly, when I need one during a painting. :D I'm the worst about that. :D
Thank you so much for watching Lana :D Yeah I would really struggle if I had to paint without my dear beloved Quin Rose 🧡
Yep, I'm going for all three!
hi if you've ever been able to compare with DS Quin Lilac, how would you say it compares to other PR122s? I really want to get the lilac but does a mix of quin red and quin violet = PR122 magenta?
I would probably pick a tube of either Quin. Pink, or Quin. Rose. Just because I'm looking into floral painting and those two look useful.
Thank you so much for having this information available!
Wonderful comparison as always, Oto. Hope you are feeling better!
Aw thank you, yes I am getting better day by day. :)
THANK YOU! i have been thinking about these comparing these colors myself. i do a lot of florals and i would LAY DOWN AND DIE without quin rose 🌹
I too would lay down and die without quin rose!
A million thanks,...once more🙏🏻💐
I've really enjoyed this series! I have PV42 from schmincke and old holland and it's a really nice colour. Wow that Quin rose is stunning, it takes like a fish to water and so vibrant when mixed with scarlet!
Dan. Please say you've tried that quin rose? Please.
I think I have the Winsor and Newton version.
I'll send you some :)
Ages ago (well about a year before this video was published), I mistakenly bought quin pink bec I thought it was the highly-recommended quin rose. I was a total beginner and was just dipping my toes in professional paints. Glad to know it's not a bad mistake lol however, I rarely use it in my paintings so that 5ml tube that i've poured in a half pan will last me probably ten years more lmao
Thanks so much. These comparisons are so helpful. :)
I had a problem when purchasing quin pink - I think I had one from a bad batch as it had such a sharp smell like a metal oil/welding shop. It wafts straight up my nose and is almost painful to be around. I tried to get an exchange and I got one that was just as bad from the store (online order). I never had an odor like this in all the paints I have, and none of my quin paints smell like this. Does anyone have any ideas of what this could be?
Wow! Great to know! Thank you for researching and sharing! I'd choose quin rose
Great choice :D
You are just great! So happy to have found you! Greetings from Sweden!
Aw thank you so much, and thank you for watching the video :D
I understand gauzing because of you!
great set of tests, TFS
This is probably the most episode! THANK YOU SO MUCH, seriously these colours, across all brands, are so confusing because they're so close!
A big hug~ 😘
You've no idea how happy this makes me! Thank you, you make it worth making this video :D
Thank you so much! I like Quin Rose, but it's too strong for my (mostly) earth color palette. I think I'll try the Quin pink instead.
You are so welcome, and thank you for watching the video!
I use quin scarlet coz thats all I have lmao id try quin rose if I have money to buy some .. btw this is si helpful!!!!
I love them all!
I have just accidentally ordered quin pink rather than rose. So came here to look at the difference.
omg thank you for this I have been wondering!
so glad it solves your problem! They do look oh so similar in charts.
Can you tell me if you have a review on Daniel Smith Deep Scarlet? I love their watercolors, they are by far my favorite.
Do you have a downloadable pdf file of those testing sheets that you do?
Well I’m a new artist and the new Quin magenta has most often been recommended for painting. One lady suggested because you can’t make it using any other colours. I don’t know if that’s true.
Different brands of quin magenta look very different. If it looks like a proper magenta it is indeed not something you can make out of other colours.
I would not call DS quin magenta a magenta at all, the quin pink looks better to me, if you're going for that.
With the staining rating they might have been taking tinting strength into consideration?
Personally, I like pv19 the best, but I'm not sure if it's because of its mixing properties or because it's just what I've used the most
Thanks for another great video~!!! ❤️
You are so welcome, and thank you for watching the video!
Oh hey!! Did I recommend these? They’re literally three paints that I tested against each other two weeks ago in preparation for the video that comes out tomorrow. : D I ended up choosing Quin rose as the one to go with for the painting because it was already poured in a pan and I love it, but I think Quin pink is a bit closer to what I was looking for!
(I was specifically looking for a replacement to sennelier’s opera rose in particular, which is different and deeper than most opera roses I’ve used before.)
Yeah I think you suggested I should compare them? Sorry it's doubled up with your schedule tho 😣Have you tried the quin coral?
Sorry just read your second comment, don't try the quin coral, it'll be awful comparison to what you are looking for!
Oto Kano oh, don’t worry about the “double up,” I’m nowhere near started or done that video. =>.
ha ha ha dear lord the light fastness test. I've been sitting on a video FOREVERRRRR because I am waiting for the lightfastness test, IN SCOTLAND. It's not happening very fast...
This is awesome. Do you have your charts some where for purchase or only for your patreon?
I went into this hoping the quin pink was going to be terrible, lol. But of course it's beautiful. I really want to see how quin pink compares to rhodinite genuine - but of course I want to get both. I'm a sucker for pink. I don't like Quin magenta, but I am curious to see how it compares to... is it PR122? I'm pulling that number from the top of my head but I hope you know what I'm talking about :)
I haven't done a color showdown level of test between quin pink and rhodinite, but I would say rhodinite is a little softer. quin pink is certainly the closest one to rhodinite out of all the quin pink/violet shades.
Your videos are so informative Oto, Unfortunately I don’t have the funds to be a Patreon right now, but I would if I could. Keep up the good work :)
What kind of gauze do you use .
i love this video 😍 where did you get the print from to do all the tests?
I literally thought about this comparison while watching the previous showdown :D Slowly becoming a mind reader, Oto. I'm not used to pinks and I can't find the red I like so maybe I need to give Quin Rose a chance... All quinacridones need a good swatch treatment - there's Quin Red, Coral, Fuchsia, Lilac... Very confusing to make a choice :D some orangey ones confuse me as well. Really want to try Burnt Scarlet. Too many options...
YES! Love it when I can read people's mind 😂Although maybe it's you that read my mind? ;)
Hehe the plot twist B-) Thanks for the video series, by the way! One of the most helpful ones for me ^_^ Just received Moonglow and Rose of Ultra I bought after watching the showdowns 👀 They are magestic
aw awesome! They are magical colors aren't they? Really love them both.
I like rose and pink, not so much the magenta.
I love these colors. I'm getting a quinacridone Rose in M. Graham watercolors, but I might change it to Daniel Smith. What's your opinion?
Okay, so first of all, you are asking a very biased person this question. But I do controllably love the Daniel Smith's one. I have tried the MG one too, and it is a beautifully intense pink. It is gorgeous. They are close, but I found the MG one is very slightly redder than the DS one.
Ok, thanks! I'll go for the Daniel Smith, then, because I'm looking for a more magenta-ish quin rose.
I'd have to say, you made the perfect choice ;) Hope you enjoy it.
I just purchased Quin Pink and I dont like it at all. It looks nothing like what Ive been looking at on the computer. My art shop does not have proper swatches of the real paint to view. It is ssssssoooooooo bright. Looks nothing like yours or others I have viewed. :-( and it cost $32 in Australia and that was on special.
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