What Happened In ISENGARD Before & After Saruman? | Middle Earth Lore

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  • Опубликовано: 14 май 2022
  • Today we have a look at what happened in Isengard both before and after the wizard, Saruman resided there!
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  • @icehockeylover189
    @icehockeylover189 2 года назад +30

    "I see you!"
    I am quite fond of the quotes; they give greater insight into the lore and the topics being covered. There's a reason your channel has grown so quickly and continues to grow. Of course, keep your ear to the ground in regards to what your viewers would like to see but there's no need to second guess your style, given the success it has brought your channel.

  • @rick9977015
    @rick9977015 2 года назад +29

    Quotes directly from the source material is always a good thing. I also love hearing what the reader gets out of it himself. Many people can read something and enterperate it a totally different way. In the case of your videos... your opinion is greatly appreciated.

  • @AMikeStein
    @AMikeStein 2 года назад +9

    I like your videos that are heavy with direct readings from the books. It makes it easy to follow and you can’t really misquote or change anything or forget exactly what was written if it’s a direct quote. I love you videos. Keep doing what you do.

  • @alanmike6883
    @alanmike6883 2 года назад +8

    The tragic thing is like orthanc and other numenorian constructions, these things would never be built again.
    They in a way were like memorials..

  • @lDarkhorsel
    @lDarkhorsel 2 года назад +40

    I see you! 👀
    Also, I like the quotes from the lore, because it reinforces the information that you present. Actually, it is for this reason that I subscribed to your channel and watched many of your videos.
    You aren't as much into hypotheses and speculations and when you present them, it is always done within the context of actual passages, notes, and other writings of the man himself (or his son).

  • @DOSHIELD
    @DOSHIELD 2 года назад +5

    I appreciate how you portrayed the information with quotes in this episode.
    I’ll be interested in hearing more about the palantir.

    • @tomlienert882
      @tomlienert882 2 года назад

      Check this video ruclips.net/video/Z9TRcHkUL1w/видео.html

  • @evilchameleon489
    @evilchameleon489 2 года назад +2

    I enjoyed the ratio of direct quotes to storytelling in this particular video, found it a pleasant balance.

  • @oscardinogetti3824
    @oscardinogetti3824 2 года назад +5

    I see you
    The video was well done. Long or short you guys always do an amazing job. Keep it up!👍

  • @davidddonges
    @davidddonges 2 года назад +1

    Fantastic work! Thank you for using my music from Battle for Middle Earth Reforged!

  • @N1njaZ3n
    @N1njaZ3n 2 года назад +3

    I see you.
    I like the quotes because when I read them later, I have reference on how to pronounce some things. Plus, it gives us samples of the writing from Tolkien. Those words are scripture.

  • @damihianimas6983
    @damihianimas6983 2 года назад +2

    I like direct quotes. Gives context and sources. I appreciate that a lot.

  • @johnc6809
    @johnc6809 2 года назад +3

    I love the quotes, with the echo! Keep them up. Great back story on Isengard.

  • @jamesmckernan1234
    @jamesmckernan1234 2 года назад +1

    Would love a video on the palantir, also the flow of the video was good, quotes were good and provided good context

  • @tomoliver3009
    @tomoliver3009 2 года назад +2

    I SEE YOU!! The Palantiri has always fascinated me. Thanks for your awesome content Broken Sword

  • @geraldineweiser1960
    @geraldineweiser1960 Год назад

    I love all the detail and quotes you included in the videos! Please continue making more videos like this one!

  • @SP1T1TOUT56
    @SP1T1TOUT56 2 года назад

    I've seen a bunch of your videos, but still fairly new to the channel. I very much enjoy the template of your videos, along with your voice. It feels like you're a natural storyteller!

  • @urfacecalling101
    @urfacecalling101 2 года назад +1

    I see you!
    Also, I quite like the quotes. I don't see how they could lessen the quality of the video's y'all make and they provide a legitimacy, as if citing sources. I'm good with them!

  • @iopy12
    @iopy12 2 года назад +3

    I see you...then again i see all of your videos. So keep them coming. Thanks for all effort and trouble guys.

  • @poetfrost
    @poetfrost 2 года назад +1

    “I see you!”
    I never knew that quotes were a problem. I still don’t. More power to you. The fact that you ask for support at the end is rare and virtuous. I’ve been a subscriber for a while now. You are awesome.

  • @bgonzales817
    @bgonzales817 2 года назад +5

    I built a city in Minecraft inspired by isengard. By design it ended up kinda resembling the imperial city in elder scrolls. Instead of a white tower its a black tower.

  • @HGMzzzsss
    @HGMzzzsss 2 года назад +1

    I see you!
    Thank you for the videos, I like the quotes from the books, makes it feel more in depth.

  • @CWuerdz
    @CWuerdz 2 года назад +1

    I really like all the quotes just increases the validity but also shows the professors work

  • @kinsmansteve
    @kinsmansteve 2 года назад +1

    "I see you." I like the quotes, they add authenticity.

  • @jeffagain7516
    @jeffagain7516 2 года назад +1

    If I may suggest my friend, in response to your query to us as to whether we wish more quotes or narrative, why not both?
    By that I mean, I think you providing direct quotes from Tolkien himself within the structure of your vids, provides them just that more weight and dare i say, moral authority regarding each subject. That said, I think we also greatly benefit from you providing your own interpretive thoughts on each matter as well, since you have quite obviously through your research and studies of the great man's works, gained a fair amount of perspective, that we enjoy you sharing with us.
    So if your vids grow in length by a few minutes to accommodate both, I doubt you will hear any complaints. :)

  • @mmiller73
    @mmiller73 2 года назад +2

    Great review of the history and significance of Isengard. More direct quotes from the books are appreciated by me.

  • @Nexus-6
    @Nexus-6 2 года назад +1

    I see you! I also, like many other commenters love the quotes in your videos. I would love more videos like this. Cheers! 🍻

  • @oliversmith9200
    @oliversmith9200 2 года назад

    The quotes highlight the depth of the validity of your entertaining and informative presentations.

  • @cdavis4857
    @cdavis4857 Год назад

    I like the quotes and details! Thank you!

  • @daniellekennedy8118
    @daniellekennedy8118 Год назад

    Regardless of the method you use to convey the information, it is the content that is most important, and that I enjoy the most. If, however, I absolutely had to choose, I do enjoy the long quotes -- I think they add a lot of depth and polish to the stories. Hope that helps!

  • @MarshWaha
    @MarshWaha 2 года назад +2

    I see you!
    I love the direct quotes!

  • @yeomanswork2257
    @yeomanswork2257 2 года назад +3

    Now you gotta do a video on the elendilmir!

  • @palantir135
    @palantir135 2 года назад +5

    I like this way of talking about Tolkien’s stories but nothing wrong with the older way.

  • @crabbuckets7506
    @crabbuckets7506 2 года назад +1

    I like it when you quote things so keep it up buddy ✌

  • @kennygpokerstrategy4917
    @kennygpokerstrategy4917 2 года назад +1

    I love the quotes!!! Regardless of how you do it I'll be listening :)

  • @flavio17021979
    @flavio17021979 2 года назад

    Many thx for yet another great video 👍 love quote "heavy " videos

  • @LJ-gu2dj
    @LJ-gu2dj Год назад

    Excellent video!

  • @ianheins650
    @ianheins650 Год назад

    Nice work dude

  • @ericstrobel2800
    @ericstrobel2800 2 года назад +1

    Yes! Not only a hearty ' I see you ', but please continue referring frequently back to the source material

  • @frostmanticorerockadile9968
    @frostmanticorerockadile9968 2 года назад +3

    I see you
    Also yes keep the quotes

  • @LAWLESSKING
    @LAWLESSKING 2 года назад

    In a dark grumbling voice from beyond a thick fog that muffles all else you hear, " I....SEE...YOU"

  • @SlideRulePirate
    @SlideRulePirate 2 года назад +2

    It's well known that Saruman was into 'ring-making' and more than dabbled in 'Orc-husbandry'. So presumably he had some kind of workshop/lab. I find myself disappointed there's never any mention of what he had on the bench and the drawing board. Doubtless it would be unsavoury, to say the least, but who wouldn't want to know what else he had up his voluminous polychromatic sleeves

    • @frankezane583
      @frankezane583 2 года назад +1

      Yup would be interesting for sure, as well as his “To do list” stapled to the wall

    • @ShadowDragon-cw7wb
      @ShadowDragon-cw7wb 10 месяцев назад +1

      Aragorn would probably echo Saruman and be like "Burn it" as he set it aside to burn, never to divulge their dark secrets again.

  • @draganvibe7583
    @draganvibe7583 2 года назад +1

    It seems that RUclips cut the “Build me an army worthy of Mordor.” line from the intro sequence…

  • @jameswhite8840
    @jameswhite8840 2 года назад +1

    Love this video, in all the quotes.

  • @zacharyslater6568
    @zacharyslater6568 2 года назад +1

    this video got me thinking, how would the istari introduce themselves when first arriving to middle earth? considering why they seemed like old weary men. like how did the steward know saruman was the head of the white council. this would be cool to witness, maybe i dunno great content man!!!

  • @coreymack8407
    @coreymack8407 2 года назад

    I enjoy the direct quotes, it adds a deeper level of immersion than is possible with just paraphrasing or opinionated analysis alone. Also, the level of research to find those quotes that fit your videos shows sooooo much attention to detail. I feel equipped with enough background knowledge to enjoy the series that comes out soon. Many thanks!

  • @jeffreyhumphrey3803
    @jeffreyhumphrey3803 2 года назад +1

    Here's an idea for a video. Would love to hear your pitch of what a LOTR sequel would be.

  • @TheLyricalCleric
    @TheLyricalCleric 2 года назад +4

    If anything remained unfound after Saruman’s death it would be his RING. Saruman actually made his own Sauron-like ring, and I’d bet dollars to donuts he put his own power into it just like Sauron did. They were both Maia of Aulë, of course. Maybe the ring stayed on Saruman’s body, but more likely he threw it into another stream before escaping, knowing that he too would remain alive after death like Sauron and could in time return to wreak havoc. Saruman always had an ace up his sleeve, thinking ahead of everybody else. He’ll be a new dark lord one day.

  • @lsskywalker87
    @lsskywalker87 2 года назад +1

    regarding your question about quotes. I think the quotes are fine, but since I am not a native in English it can be sometimes quite challenging to listen to the quotes, but I can manage it at the end

  • @boothman9321
    @boothman9321 2 года назад

    Another great video.

  • @pattonramming1988
    @pattonramming1988 2 года назад +4

    If there were more secrets within Orthanc they would be both terrible and great ancient lore from the years of the lamps to advanced crafts and designs of greater value in the coming years

  • @stevenkobb156
    @stevenkobb156 2 года назад

    The quotes are great. They add more reference and context.

  • @jacobgregg5653
    @jacobgregg5653 2 года назад

    Love the direct quotes!

  • @christopheravola9840
    @christopheravola9840 2 года назад

    I see you. I love the quotes, please keep them.

  • @gratefulj7777
    @gratefulj7777 Год назад

    Love the quotes!

  • @melkhiordarkfell4354
    @melkhiordarkfell4354 2 года назад +1

    I like to think that some relics of the Blue Wizards were locked in Orthanc, maybe because of Sarumans quote of giving Gandalf the rods of the Five Wizards.

  • @demarccowalker
    @demarccowalker 2 года назад +1

    I really enjoyed this video

  • @islaamore3027
    @islaamore3027 2 года назад

    8:39
    Saruman: so you have chosen death?

  • @SillyBestiesGaming
    @SillyBestiesGaming 8 месяцев назад

    I love the quotes!!

  • @laomei1855
    @laomei1855 2 года назад +1

    I see you, and so do hundreds of thousands of your fans!

  • @alistairj4851
    @alistairj4851 2 года назад

    I see you!
    I like the volume of quotes in this post.

  • @chrisschmalhofer4348
    @chrisschmalhofer4348 2 года назад +2

    I have a wild thought every time I hear that “build me an army…” quote at the start of each of your videos: 169k subscribers is quite an army, but is it worthy of Mordor yet?

  • @LovemyDrones
    @LovemyDrones Год назад

    I like the scrolling text as you read it. You certainly can't go wrong quoting Tolkien,

  • @cameronhofstetter4936
    @cameronhofstetter4936 2 года назад +1

    Could y'all do a video on What If, Mordor/ Isenguard invaded Westeros? Game of Thrones

  • @dambrooks7578
    @dambrooks7578 2 года назад +1

    Personally I enjoy being read to by you, as I haven't all of Tolkien's published work...

  • @everettmanser3997
    @everettmanser3997 2 года назад

    I see you!! also I love the quotes.

  • @stairwaytoholiday
    @stairwaytoholiday 2 года назад +1

    I'm hearing music from the films, has he always done this and I didn't realize until now or is that more recent?

  • @BeanMonsterr
    @BeanMonsterr 2 года назад

    I like all the quotes!

  • @hobomacjones
    @hobomacjones 2 года назад

    I see you!
    Also, I vote yay on the quotes.

  • @lotsofspots
    @lotsofspots 2 года назад +1

    Did your "Build me an army worthy of Mordor." get copyright-struck?

  • @ShadowDragon-cw7wb
    @ShadowDragon-cw7wb 10 месяцев назад

    They may have found relics of the Blue Wizards. It is possible they perished, not given a second chance as they lost their way and Saruman came across their artifacts. If Saruman can track a body long lost down a river, its not far fetched he also had relics of the blue duo and Aragorn would have info of their existence given his long time with Gandalf.

  • @manueljoshua175
    @manueljoshua175 2 года назад +1

    I quite like the quotes, but if you feel it gets a bit to much you could also put the quotes into the description. So that we can stop the video and read the quote if we want to do so.

  • @daniell1483
    @daniell1483 2 года назад +1

    More quotes are better I think, as one tends to get more context. Plus, Tolkien just has a way with words.

  • @marquislexil
    @marquislexil 2 года назад

    I see you
    And yes, bring on the quotes!! The more the better.

  • @blaze0rama
    @blaze0rama Год назад

    I see you. Also, I like the way you speak the Quotes.

  • @jeffs2935
    @jeffs2935 Год назад

    "I See You" (Ominous voice) "Build me a video worthy of Mordor" Hahahahahaha

  • @jleewatts4318
    @jleewatts4318 2 года назад

    I like the comments/quotes. And "I See You".

  • @rebeccalyn9908
    @rebeccalyn9908 2 года назад

    Personally, I don't mind the passages. I do imagine that the ROP show will spark some degree of interest in the legendarium and Canon lore; passages can bring clearer context for both new fans/viewers as well as fans who are beginning to or casually exploring the other Middle Earth stories aside from the books and/or movies.
    Edit add: I also notice through the comments that your videos spark some incredible questions and theories. Love your content!!

    • @railerswim
      @railerswim 2 года назад +2

      Theyre unfaithful shills.

    • @rebeccalyn9908
      @rebeccalyn9908 2 года назад

      @@railerswim I feel you. I was introduced to ME by the '78 animated The Hobbit when I was 4 or 5. Watching my nephew one afternoon, I put it on and he watched it 3x's in one afternoon. He's 8 now, read The Hobbit and can't wait until I give the 👍 he's at a comprehension level to be set free into LOTR. That's a seed planted. He watches lore videos because he's fascinated and it keeps him engaged. I have questions at least 6x/wk from him. Definitely not a family of Shills.
      Middle Earth has been my lifelong passion and "geek". I hold hope for all, even shills, that real, genuine love and want for the OG's works as they've been written can come. Woke & shillsters are getting called to a point where hopefully someone will decide to research their 💩

  • @QalOrt
    @QalOrt 2 года назад

    I See Thou I think he had an old Numenorian Airship hidden in there.

  • @jamesgalbreath343
    @jamesgalbreath343 2 года назад +2

    Keep the quotes!! They are not long, and they substantiate what you are telling us about Tolkien's writings.

  • @paulharrison2557
    @paulharrison2557 9 месяцев назад

    I think Saruman would have had somewhere a record of what the blue wizards were doing

  • @georgen3515
    @georgen3515 2 года назад +3

    I see you

  • @frogmand.142
    @frogmand.142 Год назад

    Saruman's undies were not recovered. Giving rise to the belief that Saruman had been going commando the hole time.

  • @elijahoconnell
    @elijahoconnell 2 года назад +1

    direct quotes are good and preferred

  • @wolfiedwarf4382
    @wolfiedwarf4382 2 года назад

    Love this

  • @justinah7400
    @justinah7400 2 месяца назад

    Direct quotes are great

  • @rvth13ss
    @rvth13ss 2 года назад

    Damn did they really make you get rid of that sound bit?!

  • @bethewholeu4532
    @bethewholeu4532 2 года назад

    “I see you”
    I like the quotes.

  • @Derper1979
    @Derper1979 2 года назад

    Saruman hid it well but his large collection of robes rivaled all others 😆

  • @alanmike6883
    @alanmike6883 2 года назад +1

    What are people's favourite Kingdoms of the first, second and third ages?

  • @itayshorek6872
    @itayshorek6872 2 года назад

    thanksss

  • @danielshaw2473
    @danielshaw2473 2 года назад

    I see you...I like the quotes in the videos...

  • @cyqry
    @cyqry 2 года назад

    Eye see you!

  • @joshuajwars4271
    @joshuajwars4271 2 года назад +1

    I see you!

  • @mitchellsmith4690
    @mitchellsmith4690 2 года назад

    Quotes are good, very good.

  • @warpdriveby
    @warpdriveby 2 года назад

    I'm not trying to split hairs, but Orthanc/Isengard was built by the Numenoreans long before the relatively small group called the Dunedain existed.

  • @sheasolo
    @sheasolo 2 года назад

    I see you!!

  • @gwynherstein5530
    @gwynherstein5530 2 года назад

    Eye see you!! 🧐

  • @kerrybruce760
    @kerrybruce760 Год назад

    I love you using Tolkien’s beautiful quotes. (I see you)

  • @HumanElemental
    @HumanElemental 2 года назад

    👀 I see you!!!

  • @scottmantooth8785
    @scottmantooth8785 2 года назад

    *I see you* *Carpe Vombatidae*