Thanks Julian for this video ! I just bought a Zoom H1N and better understand the limiter. I mainly will use the H1N to record (1) piano and (2) a small jazz band. Si I guess I'll set the audio level to get an average of -9 db and set the limiter to ON to avoid clipping/saturation. What do you think ?
Excellent video on a much improved H1. There has always been a weird thing that happens at a certain gain level on that recorder. It is a known issue when gain hits that point, maybe it is 63? But the noise level steps up. Does this new H1 do that?
I think you are talking about the phenomenon, where the signal would clip even though it did not hit 0dbfs. I will check if that is still the case on the H1n.
It seems as if the H1n has the same problems as the H1. I´m currently still testing, but I think I will make a video about it. Thanks for the suggestion!
Julian Krause 2 There was something about the gain setting though, can’t remember exactly but it was by design. As you increase gain setting step by step, there is a setting where if you go between the two settings like for example 63 to 64 there is a noticeable change in noise level. Might be something about how H1 uses a single input for mic and line level.
RallenMan you are correct. At level 37 to 36. Hiss levels increase at 36 and the signal becomes digitally controlled with regards to input. This means that very loud sounds will distort no matter what you do with the input gain below 37. The new one has the same thing but around 50. Turn up headphone volume high and listen to hiss levels as you adjust the gain. It suddenly drops once you get above somewhere around 50.
Interesting. I watched another video with the H5 where they showed that the limiter only limited after converting to a digital signal meaning it clips, then its limited so you'd still get clipping, its just quitter clipping. Your example sounds great though. Not sure what to think.
There is a limit for the limiter - I believe it won't handle sound above the specified 120dBA - or some equivalent through line-in. But it's possible it's done in digital. I think the gain knob on the H1n is in digital too - and there is only one analog gain of the recorder. And then it only makes sense the limiter is in digital too and it's not a problem.
Hey, the limiter also works for line signals. In fact, in this video I nearly fed line level into the H1n for testing the limiter. Keep in mind that only consumer line level can be recorded with the H1n. Professional line level will be to hot and clip.
The limiter essentially turns down the gain if the signal gets above -6dBFS. It does that as long, as the signal is above this threshold. If I´m not mistaken, the limiter can hold a signal up to 30dB above clipping.
Hey, just tested the audio playback system. You can record two tracks back to back and let them both play after each other. When the first track stops, the H1n takes about half a second and then starts the next recorded track automatically if you set repeat to "ALL". Hope that helps.
Could you do a test of recording two tracks back to back on this recorder and see if there is a buffer on Wave the original H1 I was able to record two tracks back to back with no space in between was wondering if you could test it out on here with the new H1
Hey David, could you clarify what you mean with "back to back recording" and how you recorded the tracks back to back on the original H1. I sadly do not understand, what you want me to test. With buffer do you mean some kind of pre-record feature?
I think many people will watch such video because there is no tutorial for zoom h1n audio recording functions, so it can also rank your channel and increase your subscriber also
The H1n has a stereo mic and it records sounds from left and right separately. If you speak into the H1n from the left the left channel will be louder than the right one. And vice versa. If you speak into it directly in front then the left and right channel will be pretty close but there is always some difference. How big is the difference between the channels if you speak into the H1n from the front?
@@juliankrause2105 Hi! No, they have not so many difference, just sligthly. And I am not in a Soundproof Room. But I thought it needed to be in the same level. So looks like it is not necessary.
Yes, this is possible. Just connect the H1n to your PC via USB and set it to audio interface mode. In Audacity you then select the H1n as your input. It´s very easy to setup!
Sir please make a video on how to set and change sensitivity level and limiter percentage level as in zoom h1. I have bought zoom h1n and now not able to access full feature of it there is no video on full tutorial of zoom h1n. Pls pls help me otherwise this mics will waste for me because I can't adjust sensitivity and limiter levels
Thanks, first online tutorial of the limiter function.
Nice work Julian.
Holy crap, Curtis THE sound guy on RUclips just commented on your video, now you know you've officially made it!
Thanks Julian for this video ! I just bought a Zoom H1N and better understand the limiter. I mainly will use the H1N to record (1) piano and (2) a small jazz band. Si I guess I'll set the audio level to get an average of -9 db and set the limiter to ON to avoid clipping/saturation. What do you think ?
Julian, I lost the battery cover to my H1n (long story) do you know where I can buy a replacement cover? I'm having a hard time finding one. Thanks.
Sorry, no idea. Maybe try to contact Zoom directly and see if they can help you out.
So I use limiter all the time when I Record?
Great
Excellent video on a much improved H1. There has always been a weird thing that happens at a certain gain level on that recorder. It is a known issue when gain hits that point, maybe it is 63? But the noise level steps up. Does this new H1 do that?
I think you are talking about the phenomenon, where the signal would clip even though it did not hit 0dbfs. I will check if that is still the case on the H1n.
It seems as if the H1n has the same problems as the H1. I´m currently still testing, but I think I will make a video about it. Thanks for the suggestion!
Julian Krause 2 There was something about the gain setting though, can’t remember exactly but it was by design. As you increase gain setting step by step, there is a setting where if you go between the two settings like for example 63 to 64 there is a noticeable change in noise level. Might be something about how H1 uses a single input for mic and line level.
RallenMan you are correct. At level 37 to 36. Hiss levels increase at 36 and the signal becomes digitally controlled with regards to input. This means that very loud sounds will distort no matter what you do with the input gain below 37. The new one has the same thing but around 50.
Turn up headphone volume high and listen to hiss levels as you adjust the gain. It suddenly drops once you get above somewhere around 50.
Interesting. I watched another video with the H5 where they showed that the limiter only limited after converting to a digital signal meaning it clips, then its limited so you'd still get clipping, its just quitter clipping. Your example sounds great though. Not sure what to think.
There is a limit for the limiter - I believe it won't handle sound above the specified 120dBA - or some equivalent through line-in. But it's possible it's done in digital. I think the gain knob on the H1n is in digital too - and there is only one analog gain of the recorder. And then it only makes sense the limiter is in digital too and it's not a problem.
Thanks
How can limiter working with "Line In" high volume sound in, for example from mixer?
Hey, the limiter also works for line signals. In fact, in this video I nearly fed line level into the H1n for testing the limiter. Keep in mind that only consumer line level can be recorded with the H1n. Professional line level will be to hot and clip.
Thanks. I think it's time to update from h1 to h1n. How long the limiter can hold a high signal, such as a loud music track?
The limiter essentially turns down the gain if the signal gets above -6dBFS. It does that as long, as the signal is above this threshold. If I´m not mistaken, the limiter can hold a signal up to 30dB above clipping.
Good, thanks
Another question. Autogain works the same way as in the previous model, abruptly, or more gently?
You should make asmr videos. Listening to this video later at night, put me right to sleep lol
Can you record two songs back to back when you play them back without a gap in between the songs I use it to record music
Hey, just tested the audio playback system. You can record two tracks back to back and let them both play after each other. When the first track stops, the H1n takes about half a second and then starts the next recorded track automatically if you set repeat to "ALL". Hope that helps.
Could you do a test of recording two tracks back to back on this recorder and see if there is a buffer on Wave the original H1 I was able to record two tracks back to back with no space in between was wondering if you could test it out on here with the new H1
Hey David, could you clarify what you mean with "back to back recording" and how you recorded the tracks back to back on the original H1. I sadly do not understand, what you want me to test. With buffer do you mean some kind of pre-record feature?
I think many people will watch such video because there is no tutorial for zoom h1n audio recording functions, so it can also rank your channel and increase your subscriber also
Thank you for this!
very nice explanation.. thanks for posting
Very impressive.
I have a Zoom H1n and I realised both channels aren't in the same level, is that normal? Need I to do something for both are in the same level?
The H1n has a stereo mic and it records sounds from left and right separately. If you speak into the H1n from the left the left channel will be louder than the right one. And vice versa. If you speak into it directly in front then the left and right channel will be pretty close but there is always some difference. How big is the difference between the channels if you speak into the H1n from the front?
@@juliankrause2105 Hi! No, they have not so many difference, just sligthly. And I am not in a Soundproof Room. But I thought it needed to be in the same level. So looks like it is not necessary.
A slight difference is absolutely normal :)
Great useable info... thank you :)
What are u recording with?!
This was recorded with a Zoom H1n ;)
Perfect! Thanks!
thanks for the tips LIKED!
Can we connect it with audacity
Yes, this is possible. Just connect the H1n to your PC via USB and set it to audio interface mode. In Audacity you then select the H1n as your input. It´s very easy to setup!
Sir please make a video on how to set and change sensitivity level and limiter percentage level as in zoom h1. I have bought zoom h1n and now not able to access full feature of it there is no video on full tutorial of zoom h1n. Pls pls help me otherwise this mics will waste for me because I can't adjust sensitivity and limiter levels
Hey, I just made a beginners guide for the H1n. It should answer all your questions: ruclips.net/video/2trnJiUFMcs/видео.html
awesome!
very useful thx