WHICH IS FASTER ! - SS396 Camaro or 455 HO Trans AM - Drag Race - RoadTestTV
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- WHO WINS? - 1971 455 HO Trans Am vs 1970 Camaro SS 396 L78 ??
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A 1971 Pontiac Trans and a 1970 Camaro SS396 go head to head in a quarter mile drag race. Pontiac vs Chevrolet, so who wins?
Both cars are competing in the Pure Stock Drags, so modifications are limited. The only modifications permitted are minor porting, blue printing and minor weight reduction without altering the stock appearance. That means stock intake manifold, stock exhaust manifolds and street tires.
The 1971 Trans AM in the video is powered by Pontiac's potent 455 HO (High Output) (7.5L) which was rated at 335 horsepower and 480 lb-ft of torque. The 455 HO was produced as emission controls were starting to be incorporated into cars and compression ratios were falling. Despite the reduced horsepower rating, the 455 HO was one of the strongest motors to come out of the Pontiac division. The 1970 Camaro SS 396 in the other lane is super rare as only 600 L78 Camaro's were built in 1970. The rare SS396 Camaro is powered by Chevy's potent, solid lifter, high winding big block 396 cubic inch (6.5 L) RPO L78 which was rated at 375 horsepower and 415 lb-ft of torque. The L78 is a legend with Chevy Big Block fans.
335 and 375 horsepower doesn't sound like much today; however, in the early 70's, these cars with minor mods were menaces on the street.
The SS396 is equipped with GM's Turbo 400 automatic transmission whereas the 455 HO Trans Am is backed by a 4 speed manual transmission. So WHO WINs?
Watch the video and see what happens.
Comment below - Tell us what you think and which car you'd rather own after watching the video...
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From my perspective the 1970 Firebird Trans Am is among the most beautiful Firebirds.
Agreed from the iwner of a 98" Ls1
1972 has honeycomb grille
@@patrickmichaeldempsey6801I daily a 00 ws6 6 speed but man what I would do to have one of these or a 77 T/A😩
@@yamahaguy1732 It s a 72 nota 77.
@@camirocz read my comment again.
I wonder if the SS got his tires warmed up
Just a little .... lol
Legend has it his rear tires are still smoking....
I know, I think he got second in the burnout contest, the winner popped his tires though.
@@roadtesttv
Try running a stock Redeye without drag radials and a good driver,just to see if it does the claimed 10.8@131mph 1/4 mile
He might watch a little too much John Force.
WOW, that Camaro probably put on at least 50,000 miles of tire wear in one burnout!!
So unnecessary
ego burnout
which would you rather have? .. id go for the pontiac
Same here. I I always liked the 69" Camaros the best and 70" is my favorite of the Trans ams
Trans am all the way.
I'll take an HO or sdta any day
The Pontiac driver was sleeping at the light but that 455HO put in work and drove around the Chevy at the big end. Well done
Camaro was ahead by 2 car lengths and had the win light on. Pontiac lost.....😂
@@will7its go Pontiac!
@@johnnyturbo8460 Good for picking up hookers and cocaine.........😋
@@will7its Pontiac had a 13.11 compared to 13.16 for the Chevy. Even late outta the hole, the 455 too it on the top end. Both cars are awesome, but these are the facts.
@@Lucille69caddy God damn, you guys have no clue. No, the Pontiac didn't drive around the Chevy at the big end. He was gaining on him, but couldn't catch him by the end of the quarter. Camaro WON - and he won BECAUSE the Pontiac slept at the light. And NO, just because the Pontiac had a slightly better ET doesn't mean he caught him. Each car has separate timer clocks, and each clock only starts when its car leaves the timing beam at the starting line. Late start won't affect your ET, but it may well mean that you lose a race you should have won, which is what happened here.
Hope the Camaro driver owns a tire store.
I had a 71 455HO, auto- damn thing had a 308 gear, 373 made it come alive!
agreed the gears get it moving - had 3.23s in my auto 455ho gto but we didn't have overdrive auto transmissions back in the day
I had a 70 400 4speed gto with 3.90 gear it get to 100 quick but it was terrible on the highway
2.56 top speed 290.8 mph bonneville flats
uh huh 72 455ho ta owner here 3.42s made it the all-around beast
I would expect that if both were original, factory stock, the T/A would win fairly easily. But in this series, it's all about that "tweaking", so both are very fast.
And I bet the tires on the Camaro are STILL sticky today, lol
Not so sure the t/a would beat a big block Camaro if bothe were stock . 455h.o is a low 14 second car and the 69 396 Camaro would esily break into the 13s
@@camirocz apples to oranges. The second generation f-body was considerably heavier
@@SealofPerfection What apples to oranges? You re the one saying the trans am would win.
@@camirocz you were just talking about a 69 Camaro. That is a completely different body style and it is lighter than the second generation. The two cars in this video are second-generation. That's why it's apples to oranges. A big block 70 Camaro sure as hell wouldn't break into the 13's.
You couldn't even get the same 396 in 70 that you could in 69.
Apples to oranges. It's not even remotely a good comparison
I used to heat up the rear tire on my Schwinn Stingray bike just before doing my paperoute exactly like these guys do...
Right, we did that along with using a clothes pin & a piece of cardboard to hit the spokes on the rear wheel, it made a cool sound. Schwinn Stingray with the Bannana seat. Good Day to You!
@@tierone4761 me and my friend used to hunt frogs with our BB guns. 1 day he's behind me riding home and shoots my fender, putting a small dent in it & thinks it's funny. The very next day we're riding home again but I'm behind him. Shot him right in the back of the head 🤕😂 he fell right over and while laying there crying I stand over him like an umpire at second base "you think that's funny too?"
Lmao. Thats good man just choked on my dr pepper.
Us: Aaaaah...... those were the times.... 😌
Millennials: What's a Schwinn?
Sorry guys, had a Purple Crate with the cheater slick back tire. Only bicycle I ever had. Got when I was 7. Worth something today.
Beautiful cars, I love both of them !
Great cars! The 455 HO is little known and often underrated. The L78 is legendary. Thanks for the video!
had the engine in my 1970 GTO 455cid way back in '77
@@xphnd The 1970 version that was available in the GTO but not available in the 1970 TA was a high compression D port engine. The 71 -72 455 HO was a low compression round port engine. Would be a great race to pit those two versions of the 455HO against each other. Airflow vs Compression. My bet is the 70 is quicker and the 71-72 is faster. Bottom end vs Top end battle.
I had a 79 Trans-Am with a 400 Pontiac & factory 4 speed with the WS6 handling package. In 1992, I raced a 91 Factory Turbocharged Thunderbird. We ran a quarter mile .... the Thunderbird jumped me 7 car lengths out of the hole, but I beat him by 12 car lengths at the finish line. My Trans-Am didn't start reeling him in until I hit 3rd gear.
Torque of the Pontiac starts to shine in 3rd
wow all that with 220 hp lol
So the poor bastard that was staging behind the Camaro had to pull out and go to the pits because his windshield was full of rubber🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol 👍
Basically identical ETs and MPHs. Would love to see the full slips. This was a reaction time race.
Also, is this stock appearing racing? or, factory stock? Even factory stock allows increase in compression, "blueprint" cams, 2.5" mandrel exhaust, etc. I doubt either of these cars or any of their kin ran 13.1 @ 106mph or anything close in true showroom stock condition.
Camaro had an .008 reaction, TA was .250.
@@John1Brady That L 78 was probably a low 13:40s car off the floor. And the Poncho 13:70s. Of course you know gears play a big part in those Supercars
Gorgeous Trans Am and much respect to the Camaro.
Both are badass, being a Pontiac guy, gotta go with the bird. I own a 1972 455 H.O. 1970 was the first year for the 455, smog regulations killed power, my 7f6 round port heads are 111 or 114 cc, can't remember, but I have a set of 30 over trw L2394 pistons to help compression, it's a cool ole engine.
1971 was the first year for the 455 in a TA. 1970 was late for production and you had a choice from 2 different 400’s.
The 455 H.O. came out in 1970 as a replace for the 428H.O. , did not come out in the Trans am until 1971, the 400 RAIII 360 hp (under rated) and the 400 RAIV 370hp (under rated ) were in the 1970 Trans ams.
@@tomcherry7029
HI Tom, yea I been racing Pontiacs since the late 70s, I buy parts whenever I find them, I recently found a 455 date code August 1969, stuff is getting harder and harder to find.
@@TheMrmmkkpro an August 1969 casting would be a very early casting of a 455 , since the 455 was a late 1970 release option. The round exhaust port 455HO was designed after the RAIV 400 heads. Most Pontiac performance Engines were under rated by 20%
@@tomcherry7029
Yes, I have a neighbor doing a 1969 GTO and he was looking at my block, but he said it was to early. I have done a lot of research and can't find out exactly when they began casting those blocks. I paid 500 bucks for it, I think I got a deal, I also have a 1969 400 two bolt main, and several not so special blocks. Things like timing chain covers, valley pans even good heads are getting scarce. My dad bought my 455HO back in 1973, the guy parted out the T/A to pay for college. I bought it from my mom after he passed in 1996. It is a beast, love me some Pontiacs they pull like a train. You can hear it run on my little channel under my name. It's not in the red car anymore, I'm building a 1975 firebird with a 1973 front clip and ram air hood, M-21 4 speed. Have a good one. 👍👍🏁🏁
Um, ok buddy i think the tires are hot.
Lol
haha
All you guys who think the T/A won based on its better ET need to look at the win light for the Camaro over the Mr. Gasket sign. Yeah, the Pontiac was slightly faster, but the Camaro driver's better reaction time won the race. Or at least, THIS race. Next one could go the other way.
Exactly. Some people on here don't quite understand how drag racing works.
Its those rose colored pontiac glasses they look thru.....
Love the early early model Firebirds.
Both nice, and thumb up for this video.
Almost identical trap speeds tells me they are pretty even. Its most likely a drivers/tuner race.
Could be gear ratio trap rpm tire size so on. Not just driver
@James dulaney,you're right except,1 of them passed the finish line first
Pantyscrat had 59 more cubes too.....just sayin.....
@@will7its Had much lower compression and lower profile cam as well. Just sayin’.
The chevy warmed the tires for all the races yet to come
Lol … thanks for watching !
I would like to see that Camaro go against the 70 T/A powered by the Ram Air IV 400.
That, would be an apples to apples showdown.
The 71 Camaro wouldn't hang with any of them.
I saw a article in a magazine when I was young comparing the 69 L78 SS Camaro vs the RA4 T/A, the Indian came out on top.
You saw that in a magazine huh?
Those 2 were not in the same league. The RA IV was more akin to an L72 or LS6, neither of which was as readily available as the RA IV. The RA IV was waaay underrated. I wish someone would dyno these engines to see the REAL numbers, not the fables.
@@thegreenerthemeaner
Well, one could argue, displacement wise the L72 & LS6 weren't in the same league. Power wise your not far off. I've not seen a RAIV on the dyno, but Holdner dynoed a factory spec a 1963 421 SD got 480hp/510tq. I think the IV was close to the 396's 425hp, like maybe 440-450! Lol
@@will7its Troll Pontiac hater, huh? You’re all over this thread bashing the Tin Indian😆
@@thegreenerthemeaner the RA IV still losses out to the mighty 421 SD from earlier in the decade. 421SD dynoed 488 hp from GM engineers. That why even RA IV Goats can't hang with earlier Catalinas 🏁
Just noticed you recorded these at my local track nice video
It doesn't really matter which one is faster. The T/A is such a nicer car.
The SS396 L78 is quick no doubt , but runs out on the big end , not enough torque. The 455 HO doesn't have that problem.
The 455-ho was kind of a happy combination engine. Low compression, under square bore/stroke, cast rods, cast pistons, cast crank, hydraulic lifters, 5200 rpm rev limit, a relatively mild low lift cam, quadrajet carb, and still gave excellent performance on regular gas. I can only speculate on the performance if Pontiac had been able to come out with this engine in 1970, with 10.5/1 compression, a bit more cam, the early 60's style forged 421SD rods, and maybe forged pistons, so it could rev to 5600 rpm. As it was, the one had to upshift gears just as those heads started to really breathe. From what I read somewhere, those round port heads where good for 500hp on a properly prepared 455.
My grandma had a 427 mystery motor in her caprice and she used to shift at 7500.....
I've got a customer with A455 built to over a 500 ci with aluminum heads and is Dyno a Lil over 500 horsepower it is out of control to drive I couldn't believe how much tq /power it had when I drove it and I have drove 1000 horsepower cars the torque is insane from the built 455 motor I would not bleave it if someone told me but I drove it and it's nasty !! And let me add I've drove 468 / 502/ 632 ci motors Chevys and the hit down low on the built 455/500 ci tq is not in the same ball field and I'm a Chevy man !!!
It's a man's name that makes the parts I can't remember what it was but if u are a 455 man u know the Performance part man's name That was all the parts in that engine!!! And the car was a 68 Pontiac Look like the camaros!!
@@will7its It remains a mystery because it never happened..
Mine too! Small world.
Camaros, Firebirds and Corvettes where always my favourite cars. ❤❤
People back in the 70s, really believed pony-car of that era was going to be the last production car of any big horse power.
And we were right, until the late 80s came along
Too Bad That PONCHO Was Late Off The Line, Besides That Their Times Were Neck-and-Neck...
the clock only starts to count once you leave the line .
The TA won even being late off the line .
@@tomcherry7029 No, the TA lost. Had a better ET yes, but it got to the finish line later because his reaction time wasn't as good as the Camaro's. Slow reaction time doesn't affect ET at all, but it does get you to the other end later. Camaro left first and managed to stay ahead all the way through the quarter, even if the TA was gaining on him.
@@herman452 what you dont under stand is you are referring to reaction time of the driver. The trap speed tells the real story of what the car is capable of doing . A better driver in the Trans am and you have a diffrent out come. A high trap speed means the power is there. A slow reaction time is driver not car.
@@herman452 plus the fact that there was no 396 in 1970 it was in fact a 402 high C.R. engine, the 1972 Pontiac 455HO only had 8.4 to 1 c.r. and still made well over HP even with the chevy being rated at 375hp vs the 300hp in the Pontiac both cars at 3400 lbs without know what gears if would be hard to tell exactly but the 455 with a high trap speed is putting out more HP than the Chevy.
What a holeshot the camaro driver pulled on the T/A. Good race.
I think off the showroom floor in 70" that Chevy takes the Poncho. Those L 78s were fistfighters akways punching above their weigh class. Hella of a race. Could go either way.
Yeah, but it lost on the top end. Pontiac 13.11 to Chevy 13.16.
the trans am is a 72 or at least the top end of the motor is you can see on the center exhaust port 7f6 which is 72. A 71 would not have a boss on the center exhaust port they were on the front corner and were 197 . I am just saying
you are correct, it is a 72'
Even though the Trans Am has 53 more cubic inches, their is no comparison between the 402 CID semi Hemi and the Pontiac 455. The BB Chevy has many advantages. I used to own a 1970 SS 396 (402 CID 375 HP) L-78. They really were about 425 HP, but Chevrolet down played the HP for insurance purposes.
Then why did the Pontiac win?
The L78 was quick out of the hole , but didn't have enough torque and fell flat on the big end and the 455 Trans Am reeled him in
. Yep. Let's hear it for mid-range torque.
@@lanceschrader5907 More torque!
Immediately after the race Camaro owner made a beeline to Goodyear Tire store🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No doubt. We were surprised the tire didn’t come apart and beat the side of the car to death. Thanks for watching.
Hey baby, Me have Trans Am!
Best pick up line ever.
Lounge lizards and coke heads galore....😋
Hold on let me just do a real quick burnout to warm up these 14" bias plys. *two lord of the rings movies later*
I've owned one of each but thought the Camaro would win. The T/A with all the bells and whistles just weighs more.
Will you adopt me so I could drive some sweet rides like you.
AWESOME ! That chevy took about 2/10th of a hole shot. Poncho still had just enough on the big end.
@@juniorthird7952 My current vehicle is a 2000 WS6 Ram Air T/A
I purchased new and has 50K miles on it.
Kelly Anne Bishop...Both cars in this video weigh about the same. The engine in the Trans Am alone weighs about 75 pounds less than the Camaros 396 big block.
@@mikenagy9408 That is correct, but the Trans Am with power windows, locks, AC, power steering, power trunk release, quite possibly cruise control all weigh much more than a stock early S.S.1970's 396 Stripped down Camaro weighs. . .
Both nice cars I thought the camaro was just trying to burn the tires off but maybe that was the difference
The 396 is a beast so under rated
Yess! 455! Always a plus!
Did the throttle stick during the burnout or what?
Reckon they got the tires warmed up??
terrible start for the T/A but it still won.
He was quicker. Still lost the race, but all that means is the other guy had a better reaction time. Says nothing about which one is quicker.
Pacfanweb Uhh, the T/A win by .5 tenths.
@@Lucille69caddy Win light went to the Camaro. Best ET doesn't always win. Reaction time is the key here; the Camaro left at least a tenth of a second earlier - enough to outweigh the T/A's 5 hundredths better ET.
@@SealofPerfection He didn't lose camaro red lit, you can see it at the tree and on the board at the end goes from green to red.
@@johnnywaddell4278 Don't think so. The win light came on for the Camaro as he passed through the lights. If the Camaro had red lighted, the win light would have come on immediately for the T/A and been on the entire race, and we'd have only been waiting for the times and mph.
But you can clearly see the win light come on for the Camaro, AS it passed through the traps. So no red light.
Plus, you can see the tree when they launch, you'd see the red light. And both were green. Camaro just treed the hell out of the T/A. I suspect the Camaro probably had a .00x reaction, and the T/A was probably .1-.2, as late as he was.
The advantage of having a 4 speed manual helped the T/A overtake the Camaro at the end!!
Wow these old cars were so fast for their time. And the style can't even be compared to. Love the new mid engine vette though.
Probably 4 to 5 tenths faster than off the 1970 showroom floor but yeah fast even today
Wish it still had a manual though....
Nice hole shot by the Camaro! Great heads up race. Both cars are stunning.
Pontiac 455 all the way! F'n camaro jumped! Needed all the help he could get.
He sure did. video don't lie.
@@sergiojacquez2277 if the ss jumped where's the red light & no 70 and a half Camaro came in black.
The camaro didn't jump. I am guessing that you have never been on a drag strip with a tree before. Every person and car takes a second from the time you pull your foot off the brake, mash the gas pedal, then the car to react and start to move. Then the time doesn't start, or qualify as a red light until the back of the front tires clear the beam. Figuring out how to time these delays are part of drag racing. Some drivers will stage "shallow" to give them a little more space before they "red light". But it's all part of drag racing. If you Officially leave too soon you will red light.
Nope. Camaro driver outraced the Poncho driver. There was no red light. Camaro wins fair and square.
Great burnout from the camaro!
As the Camaro is doing a burn out there is a Marina Blue '67 Chevelle SS which is from another video of the same exact camaro against that Gorgeous Chevelle. #TeamChevy #ChevyGuy 🔧🏁💪
That’s right. Great eye. That 67 Marina Blue Chevelle SS396 is a beautiful car. Thanks for watching !
Awesome Channel keep up The Outstanding Work 👍👏
Hey Camaro, we get it..Your car can do a burn out...
The 455 All-Block !! It's strange that Pontiac never made a Big Block !! 🤔
"335 and 375 horsepower doesn't sound like much today; however, in the early 70's, these cars with minor mods were menaces on the street." It doesn't, especially when you knock those numbers down to today's SAE Net. Turbo four-bangers are putting out more horsepower today.
That close I'd have to go with which ever car has a 4 sd. At least for the fun factor.
Scratch one set of tires. Melting your tires away is just a childish thing to do. ANY muscle car can do that, so it's not like it says anything about the car.
A bit surprised at the Firebird's ET and Speed. The boy in the Camaro did a great launch and won with less.
That Camaro should have warmed his tires up more.
Poncho with the torque reeled in the SS on the big end.
With a stick shift too.
Just a little side note 70 and A half Camaros weren't available in black.
Seriously? I always wanted a '70 Camaro in black. What year did black become available?
Well its 50 years old so, maybe it had a repaint or 2
Damn, what has that Camaro driver got against tires anyway? Clean ass looking bird!
Seen a old 69 Camaro showing out by doing burn outs and blew a tire. It ripped his whole quarter fender to pieces.. The car was perfect until that happened.
Well, at least you have that memory.....😝
Ok..a little ridiculous on the burn out
Always like the smaller rear spoiler on the second generation Camaros as opposed to the taller and bigger rear spoiler GM came up with a year or two later.....
Despite the Poncho’s turtle reaction at the tree, he did a 13.11 vs the Chevy’s 13.16.
Um...you do realize reaction times do not factor in to elapsed times. The Camaro won the race, not the lower et Firebird.
And its a she......
@@camaropitcrew8445 Yeah, looked that way to me too, but then all these people started chiming in about the T/A winning so I started to wonder. I'm not familiar with their board but when I looked back at it there were 2 lights lit on the left board that were not on the right, so I figured one of those must be the win light. You don't get much tighter on the ET's than what they ran.
Lame burnout from TA..camaro does it right
Yeah wake up T/A driver!!!!!
That SS396 is a very pretty car. but it is not an L78. Real L78 Camaro's only came with 4speed transmissions in 1970. all 600 cars produced that year were 4 speeds. they did not make an L78 in 1970 with a automatic. also the L78 was way under rated on HP. they rated them at 375HP. in 1965 they rated it at 425HP. never made a change, and the next year it was rerated to 375hp when the 427 390HP ,425HP and 435HP engine came out. they carried it over in to 69 but it get better flowing heads in 69. hot rod magazine did a test on a fully restored 67 L78 396 and it made exactly 425HP. In 1970 the 396 got bored out .030 to 4.124 inch bores. making it a 402 cubic inches but was still sold as the 375HP L78 396. in reality the 1970 L78 402 makes around 430-435HP on the dyno.
The 69 Z28 was the only car that had a stick mandatory......
I owned both a 70 formula 400 and a 69 Mustang Mach 1 with a 390, both shreaded every SS 396 I ever ran.
Gafonzie I can see a Pontiac 400, especially a RamAir 400 giving a 396 fits, but sorry, no 390 Ford anything can run with a 396, unless it’s the low compression 2 bbl in the station wagon.
Agreed my 1969 Pontiac GTO 400 RA III ( TH 400 3.55 gears ) never lost to an SS 396 Back in the Day . I love both buy the way 😄
Your my hero.....🥰
Evenly matched. About dead even.
torque is king
Until you go more than a 1/4 mile...
Why are you showing the Camaro burning out next to a 67 Chevelle?
So evenly matched it all came down to the drivers
The Camaro red lit you can see it at the tree and as they pass the timing board at the end goes from green to red.
Pretty excessive burnouts for 13 second cars lol
It would be nice if the TA had a rml air IV
The 455 HO was the follow on to the 400 Ram Air IV and also used the round port heads.
The higher HP would give the Camaro a faster top speed but higher torque on the T/A will give a faster launch and acceleration with equal weight, tires, transmission and rear gear on both.
And you know this...how?
@@camaropitcrew8445 Simple physics and mechanical engineering.
So why do most drag cars cam for hp over torque?
@@will7its Cause nearing the end of a run means the engine is getting near redline, if the proper gears were used, and also means the car will be nearing it's fastest speed. The power band has different RPM peaks for TQ and HP and balancing the shift points to between those points will have the faster results. The list of factors like weight, bore, stroke, gearing, etc, will vary the needs for where and when delivers power.
@@bryandepaepe5984 And too much torque will just make you spin the tires unless your car is a total tub.....
About 325 hp to the wheels. Not bad
Quicker is the word to use in a quarter mile test
That was all over at the starting line. Pontiac was dead late.
GREAT run but if that Pontiac had been automatic like the camro way faster but the Pontiac is the faster car anyways so lets goooooooo
What if the camaro had more cubic inches, like the pontiac?
@@michaelmaskal9295 He wont understand....
It may be that African Americans thought it was a Cadillac but still higher than a chev🤣
Fast forward to 1:25 for the race.
Somebody tell the camaro driver it was unnecessary to smoke the tires that much to get them heated and if a street tire totally unnecessary.
Street tires need all the help you can give them. And he won and its his/her car so maybe they know what they are doing.
The guy in the firebird drives like a rookie. Fucked up his burnout, and he blew it on the line. Too bad.
You mean the guy in Camaro he red lit as he passes timing board the red light was on his side.
Would take that Beautiful 2nd Generation Camaro any day #ChevyGuy #TeamChevy 🏁🛠
The Trans Am had 7F6 heads which are incorrect for a '71. Those are correct for a '72. A '71 would have had 191's. I wonder if the heads are wrong or the year of the car is wrong as Pure Stock Racing is pretty specific about things like that.
Their all cheating...
The Camaro needs to try a different compound tire. He ground off 25,000 miles of tread trying hook up.
Bet that SS owner is someone who would ask for more cowbell! 🤣
Complete nonsense burnout by the Camaro
So close who won?
TA ran quicker but lost at the tree. Camaro trap speed was faster though.
It comes down to who had the lowest ET. The TA barely won, 13.11 to 13.16 for the Camaro.
@@jrfoster4225 TA lost, sorry
@@will7its camaro red lit look at his timing board the light goes from green to red.
The difference was.the longer burnout, like John Force 😂 Holeshot real sticky better launch.
30.06 is much faster.
Now put the automatic in the TA.
And more cubic inches in the Camaro, right?
OK wrong , the 1970 Camaro 396 was not 396 cid it was a 402 cid.
For marketing purposes it was still called a 396.
@edwardpate6128 most people know that ,most also know that since the Saying of the day was " there is no replacement for displacement " it was more of being to lazy to up date than anything else .
i love how the HO sounds all cool and prestigious HIGH output BIG BLOCK gm product in a smaller car. etc. Yet the l78 in the camaro is rarer.......and lower produced. And just an overall cooler package and build across the board. Really wish they made a hipo 400 with "factory aftermarket" head parts.
@Mark Richards Yeah, its just the size and weight of one......😗
andola jackson...There is no such thing as a big or small block Pontiac engine.
Actually, I think the Camaro had a chick driving it I have an old issue of Musclecar Review with that same car at a pure stock race with a chick driving it
You’re correct. Her father has a black 70 LS6 Chevelle SS454. He did a similarly long burnout with his Chevelle in a video that’s posted on this channel. Thanks for watching.
Little known fact but don't race women, they have a better reaction time than men.
You're gonna get tree'd😂😂
@@MrTheHillfolk Yeaaaaa I sorta kinda found out the hard way lol
@@MrTheHillfolk As Mr. T. aka Sgt. Bosco B. A. Baracus says, "Speak for yourself, sucka!"😊😋😎
Now you just made the Camaro hotter! Hard to turn down a chick driving a cool muscle car.
Not bad considering the 396 had a factory rating 11.1 comp and a 520 solid lift cam compared the 455 HO 8.4 comp and small 408 lift cam. I know rules say you can raise the compression a point in a half but the camshaft kills the 455 HO.
The 068 cam is a great grind. I have run 12's with it in more than 1 455. Stock Pontiac heads have very good flow at lower lifts and of course they produce mountains of torque. A buddy of mine tested the 068 vs the 041 in his '71 LeMans wagon and found the E.T.'s were identical but the 041 was about a mile an hour or two faster. His car was running in the 12.70 range at the time. The addition of Rhodes lifters with the 041 cam increased the E.T. by about 3/10ths over the 068 cam. He was running 1.65 rockers on both so that helps the 068 cam some.
@Mark Richards Torque is for getting fat people and their groceries home to the farm in the next valley.......😁
All that show boating to run a slower e.t.
And she won the race....
Big deal. My 93 Buick Road Master station wagon can make a whole lot more smoke than that Camaro. 😆😆
TA all the way
Bad reaction time off line t/a should have run high 12s with a good driver
That Chevy sure could smoke um and looked good coming out of the hole. But that Poncho had just enough on the big end. A Ram air 4 would have probably shut tha Camaro down by a larger margin
Camaro won the race.....
@@will7its Yes, yes, yes and yes. Amazing how many people who post here have no clue. Quicker ET doesn't always translate into a win. Camaro had a better reaction time and so a big enough jump off the line that it was able to hold the TA off all the way to the end.
So , here is the question to ask ..... with all parameters being equal ..... will Cubic Inch out run Horsepower ?? 😒
We proved something....old cars ain't fast.....real tires would have chopped a half second off each of these probably, though, I'll give em that. Two very cool cars, despite not being 2020 gt500s in the speed dept
Ken Christensen Ain’t fast compared to what? These FIFTY year old cars are all engine, carbureted, with points ignition, on bias ply tires, and no computer. 13 sec ET’s out of these old beasts is pretty good. You must be a millennial.
@@Lucille69caddy White priveledge millenial or gen x pretty boy (skinny jeans)