Well, you got a bit of a roasting for the many minor errors in fact and pronunciation there, but fundamentally that’s a great wee video on a range of somewhat overlooked cars, and well worth watching. I’d love to see it expanded into individual videos on the Denzel, the Elva and Costin, with all the small errors sorted out and the illustrations improved. The Costin section, for example, liberally confuses the Nathan and Amigo models, and the Elva section includes pictures of a number of unrelated engines, but it’s still a worthy effort and hopefully provides many enthusiasts with a good basic overview and the springboard to dive into further research. Good effort, well worth watching and most enjoyable. (Oh, and Giovanni is pronounce Joe-van knee)
El Va is Spanish and means He Goes. Inexplicably, we have the start of the French F1 race at Rhiems in the Morretti segment. One car I wasn’t already familiar with the Denzel 1300 thanks for that! Knew the other 4. I subscribed. Keep up the good work!
Two little nit picky points, firstly you virtually neglected to say that Frank Costin made this car as a side venture from his main day job and THAT was being the COS part of Cosworth engineering alongside his business partner Keith Duckworth (the worth bit in Cosworth) who in the early sixties produced one of the most iconic and successful racing engines of all time the Cosworth D.F.V V8 (dual four valve as it happens) which won virtually EVERY formula one and sports car race with every team that competed apart from Ferrari from the early/ mid sixties until the advent of the screaming turbo's in the mid eighties, as well as such beauties as the Ford Sierra Cosworth and the Mercedes Cosworth , the second one is the mispronunciation of Beaulieu, English is a strange coalescence of Anglo Saxon old English, Norman French and a smattering of gothic German and for future reference Beaulieu is pronounced beoow lee not bow looee.
@@ramblerdave1339 No you are right he used the commercially available Coventry Climax engine which was originally designed during the second world war as an emergency two man hand portable fire pump....just as Hillman later did for the Imp
Missed out Ginetta G4, G12, G15. The G15 using the same Rootes engine developed in Coventry for Hillman that Roger Nathan used (fyi the Hillman engine was not a twin cam and the Costin Nathan did run a 998cc Hillman engine and transaxle at Le Mans and retired due to electrical problems not mechanical- Lucas electronics). The Hillman/Sunbeam Imp with the 875cc version of that same engine also set a Cannonball Run record in 1964.
If I'm not mistaken the car shown at 21:50 is a Hillman Minx. Nothing like an Imp. I always thought the Daimler Dart had an ugly front end but (despite its innovations) the Kaiser Darren beats it hands down as the ugliest sports car ever. Probably only included because it was American.
I can't comment on the others, but the Costin Nathan section is rather poorly researched, I'm afraid: 21:26 It weighed 860lbs, not 700lbs 21:40 The 'fixed roof' car pictured is a Costin Amigo - one of Costin's later designs, nothing to do with the partnership with Roger Nathan 21:49 The pictured car is a Hillman Minx, not a Hillman Imp 22:03 The Imp engine was a single overhead camshaft, not a twin cam, and the engine shown in the picture is actually a Ford-Cosworth unit (several different engines were fitted, including also BMW). 22:06 The standard Imp-engined Costin-Nathan used a modified Imp transaxle, not a Hewland Mk.5. 23:19 The Le Mans car did not use a Lotus-Ford Twin Cam - it still used the Imp unit. 24:47 'Beaulieu' is pronounced 'B-yoo-lee', not 'Bowl-you'
23:51 pretty sure it wasn't Kris Meeke as pictured behind the wheel at Snetterton in 1967, given that he wasn't born until 1979 😂 I suppose Chris Meek as captioned may be correct, but not the image!
And I always thought the Elva was named after a baby eel. Frank Costin in the meantime went on to be co-founder of Cosworth the famous engine tuning and design company. A couple of interesting stories.
@@Vigula As pronounced in English, rather than French. French Beau is 'BOW' and French Lieu is LEE-UGH Beau Lieu means beautiful or pleasant demesne. Norman French equivalent of 'nice crib'. And its a decent enough description of the place still.
@@leosmith848 Sure, as pronounced in English as it's a place in England and that's how it's pronounced there. There's no point in pronouncing it any other way. Now if it was in France that would be a different matter 🙂
i think the denzel 1300 used the motor from the vw käfer 1303S. this motor already had 50 horsepowers. so only 15 horsepowers were gained from motortuning. of course the other improvements made the car more like a racing car. the original 50 horsepower motor was good for 130 kph which is around 80 miles per hour
Don't think the script "writer" knows too much about motor sport! The Imp motor, far from being an unlikely choice for a racing car, was a Coventry Climax motor, the make much loved by F1 in the 50s and early 60s. Actually originally designed as a fire pump motor! Oh, and how did wishbones and coilovers morph into transverse leaf? Not worth 30 mins of my time!
MIke Costin co-founded Cosworth, indeed the portmanteau name is a combination of Costin & Duckworth. Pronunciations of Monthléry & Beaulieu need more research.
@@philhawley1219Thanks, Hilmann didn't sell many cars in the US, so I can't name them all, but the Imp was sold here, under the Sunbeam name, and I have driven one, in high school once. Burned out the clutch trying to transport 8 sixteen year old girls in it. Only took 3 starts and stops, about 6 blocks. Loved the car, want to vintage race one!
Minx pictured but the engine used in the Hillman Imp was Rootes and also what Roger used in his Costin Nathan GT. Beautiful engine and very lightweight.
Humphrey Davy, the British chemist who actually named it, spelt it as *aluminum* in the chemistry textbook he wrote in 1812. The aluminium pronunciation came from other chemists using “ium” because they believed the newest element should follow in the “potassium, sodium, calcium, strontium, barium, magnesium” naming footsteps.
0:15 Denzel 1300
7:00 Elva Courier
12:25 Moretti 750
19:25 Costin Nathan GT
26:20 Kaiser Darrin
TY for sharing some lesser known "Badges"...so Really lesser knowns...
Some interesting designs I hadn't heard of before.
Great research and presentation! I love the Moretti 750 Berlinetta and the Costin Nathan!
Glad you enjoyed it!☺️
The ability to distinguish an A series from a Coventry climax may help the commentator!
And the Hillman minx photo
@@garychilds1130 Deliberate mistakes, to get you talking and you're all falling for it!!
Well, you got a bit of a roasting for the many minor errors in fact and pronunciation there, but fundamentally that’s a great wee video on a range of somewhat overlooked cars, and well worth watching. I’d love to see it expanded into individual videos on the Denzel, the Elva and Costin, with all the small errors sorted out and the illustrations improved. The Costin section, for example, liberally confuses the Nathan and Amigo models, and the Elva section includes pictures of a number of unrelated engines, but it’s still a worthy effort and hopefully provides many enthusiasts with a good basic overview and the springboard to dive into further research. Good effort, well worth watching and most enjoyable. (Oh, and Giovanni is pronounce Joe-van knee)
El Va is Spanish and means He Goes. Inexplicably, we have the start of the French F1 race at Rhiems in the Morretti segment. One car I wasn’t already familiar with the Denzel 1300 thanks for that! Knew the other 4. I subscribed. Keep up the good work!
Impressive in a word!
Appreciate the video.
Two little nit picky points, firstly you virtually neglected to say that Frank Costin made this car as a side venture from his main day job and THAT was being the COS part of Cosworth engineering alongside his business partner Keith Duckworth (the worth bit in Cosworth) who in the early sixties produced one of the most iconic and successful racing engines of all time the Cosworth D.F.V V8 (dual four valve as it happens) which won virtually EVERY formula one and sports car race with every team that competed apart from Ferrari from the early/ mid sixties until the advent of the screaming turbo's in the mid eighties, as well as such beauties as the Ford Sierra Cosworth and the Mercedes Cosworth , the second one is the mispronunciation of Beaulieu, English is a strange coalescence of Anglo Saxon old English, Norman French and a smattering of gothic German and for future reference Beaulieu is pronounced beoow lee not bow looee.
Actually it was Frank's brother Mike that was a partner with Keith Duckworth at Cosworth.
I think Frank Costin was the father of Mike Costin who founded Cosworth with Keith Duckworth
@@duncancooper6175 older brother
Not only that, the Coventry Climax engine predates the Hillman Imp by about a decade, so Costin didn't use an Imp engine.
@@ramblerdave1339 No you are right he used the commercially available Coventry Climax engine which was originally designed during the second world war as an emergency two man hand portable fire pump....just as Hillman later did for the Imp
I love all these stories of two guys building their dream race cars!
That Kaiser Darrin is so needed now what a great idea for a car.
Missed out Ginetta G4, G12, G15. The G15 using the same Rootes engine developed in Coventry for Hillman that Roger Nathan used (fyi the Hillman engine was not a twin cam and the Costin Nathan did run a 998cc Hillman engine and transaxle at Le Mans and retired due to electrical problems not mechanical- Lucas electronics). The Hillman/Sunbeam Imp with the 875cc version of that same engine also set a Cannonball Run record in 1964.
If I'm not mistaken the car shown at 21:50 is a Hillman Minx. Nothing like an Imp. I always thought the Daimler Dart had an ugly front end but (despite its innovations) the Kaiser Darren beats it hands down as the ugliest sports car ever. Probably only included because it was American.
Who ever chose the colours for the Kaiser Darrin (Mrs Kaiser?) certainly had a good taste.
Great video. Too many Nigels in the comments!
Someone is mixing up Frank Costin and Mike Costin!
I can't comment on the others, but the Costin Nathan section is rather poorly researched, I'm afraid:
21:26 It weighed 860lbs, not 700lbs
21:40 The 'fixed roof' car pictured is a Costin Amigo - one of Costin's later designs, nothing to do with the partnership with Roger Nathan
21:49 The pictured car is a Hillman Minx, not a Hillman Imp
22:03 The Imp engine was a single overhead camshaft, not a twin cam, and the engine shown in the picture is actually a Ford-Cosworth unit (several different engines were fitted, including also BMW).
22:06 The standard Imp-engined Costin-Nathan used a modified Imp transaxle, not a Hewland Mk.5.
23:19 The Le Mans car did not use a Lotus-Ford Twin Cam - it still used the Imp unit.
24:47 'Beaulieu' is pronounced 'B-yoo-lee', not 'Bowl-you'
23:51 pretty sure it wasn't Kris Meeke as pictured behind the wheel at Snetterton in 1967, given that he wasn't born until 1979 😂
I suppose Chris Meek as captioned may be correct, but not the image!
@@Tom_HadlerMartin stuart They should have read the book An Adventurous Life for proper facts
And I always thought the Elva was named after a baby eel.
Frank Costin in the meantime went on to be co-founder of Cosworth the famous engine tuning and design company.
A couple of interesting stories.
I don't think so. Cosworth was formed by Mike Costin (Frank's younger brother) and Keith Duckworth.
Beaulieu = "BEW LEE"
exactly - beau as in beautiful
@@Vigula As pronounced in English, rather than French.
French Beau is 'BOW' and French Lieu is LEE-UGH
Beau Lieu means beautiful or pleasant demesne.
Norman French equivalent of 'nice crib'.
And its a decent enough description of the place still.
@@leosmith848 Sure, as pronounced in English as it's a place in England and that's how it's pronounced there. There's no point in pronouncing it any other way. Now if it was in France that would be a different matter 🙂
I know of a Costin Nathan open one not far from where I live
5:25 Engine looks similar to my 356.
It should, as the Porche and Denzel, both were based on the VW engine, Ferdinand Porche designed the VW.
i think the denzel 1300 used the motor from the vw käfer 1303S. this motor already had 50 horsepowers. so only 15 horsepowers were gained from motortuning. of course the other improvements made the car more like a racing car. the original 50 horsepower motor was good for 130 kph which is around 80 miles per hour
It seems that he replaced the crank, rods, and pistons, with his own design. To me, that says he stroked the 1200 motor.
"Barchetta" is pronounced "Bar KETT uh", NOT Barchetta.
"Beaulieu" is pronounced "Bewley" in English
exactly - beau as in beautiful.
I’ll take an Elva Curr and put a 327 in it…….😮
Don't think the script "writer" knows too much about motor sport! The Imp motor, far from being an unlikely choice for a racing car, was a Coventry Climax motor, the make much loved by F1 in the 50s and early 60s. Actually originally designed as a fire pump motor!
Oh, and how did wishbones and coilovers morph into transverse leaf?
Not worth 30 mins of my time!
That's Kris Meek the rally driver
MIke Costin co-founded Cosworth, indeed the portmanteau name is a combination of Costin & Duckworth. Pronunciations of Monthléry & Beaulieu need more research.
Looks like a Porsche 356
Hillman Imp? 21:50
Not!
@@ramblerdave1339 Minx.
@@philhawley1219Thanks, Hilmann didn't sell many cars in the US, so I can't name them all, but the Imp was sold here, under the Sunbeam name, and I have driven one, in high school once. Burned out the clutch trying to transport 8 sixteen year old girls in it. Only took 3 starts and stops, about 6 blocks. Loved the car, want to vintage race one!
Minx pictured but the engine used in the Hillman Imp was Rootes and also what Roger used in his Costin Nathan GT. Beautiful engine and very lightweight.
@@geraldstanley9692 The Imp engine was produced by Coventry Climax Ltd.
700 lbs ? 😮
The Costin Nathan was seriously light
Porscheeeeeeeeee not "porsh"
“Barchetta” is pronounced “BarK-Etta”. Ch is pronounced as a hard C, like you said in your video, Michelotti. Good video otherwise
Thank you for your correction, I'll make sure to say it correctly next time!
400 kg translates to 882 lbs.
Ch is k in Italian.
I remember of the car in the 60 I think the car was slow and was ugly compared to porsche . Abarts. Lancia.alfa
Too repetitive!
Aluminium ffs. Not Aloominum!!!!!
Humphrey Davy, the British chemist who actually named it, spelt it as *aluminum* in the chemistry textbook he wrote in 1812.
The aluminium pronunciation came from other chemists using “ium” because they believed the newest element should follow in the “potassium, sodium, calcium, strontium, barium, magnesium” naming footsteps.