Arthur on Beauty Standards: Francine's BAD Hair ✂️✂️✂️

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024

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  • @TonyTurner
    @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +87

    This topic gets deep ‼ I also think this plays into the myth that some black girls can't grow longer hair like Muffy's.

  • @dumbledoratheexplora1140
    @dumbledoratheexplora1140 Месяц назад +135

    Even as a kid I never understood why the hairstylist acted disappointed that her hair didn't magically grow longer when she curled it, especially when curling gives hair shrinkage.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +19

      Exactly like shouldn't she have known that as the professional 🤔😅

  • @FilmmakeroftheFuture
    @FilmmakeroftheFuture Месяц назад +219

    You’re right about the beautician being a villain. In my opinion the best hairdressers can work with whatever hair that’s presented to them.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +30

      FACTS‼ They don't make snarky comments either. They are miracle workers when it comes to self image honestly

    • @firepuppies4086
      @firepuppies4086 Месяц назад +7

      "if only she had hair like yours"

    • @Neku628
      @Neku628 Месяц назад +6

      I once got insulted by a hair stylist as well as my sister taking a picture of that awful haircut that I gave myself. I tried to cut out my bangs. By the way, I'm white and I have thick hair. My sister is also white and has thin hair.

    • @haileybalmer9722
      @haileybalmer9722 Месяц назад +6

      That's the truth. If a hair dresser doesn't know how to style curly and kinky hair, they're just not a very good hairdresser.

  • @SomeGirlsAltAccount
    @SomeGirlsAltAccount Месяц назад +45

    As a person who has Jewish heritage, I don't understand why people say Francine can't be black because she and her family are Jewish. There are Jewish people who are black!

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +8

      True ‼

    • @skootergirl22
      @skootergirl22 Месяц назад

      Yea and white people can be Hindu, Buddhists and Muslims

  • @kerisaltchannel3817
    @kerisaltchannel3817 Месяц назад +257

    She didn’t even look bad she looked pretty! 😭

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +40

      Yeah I guess they got so used to her bob hairstyle 😅

    • @vpenguin333
      @vpenguin333 Месяц назад +25

      Very out of style for the 1990s, but still, she was pretty. At least in the epilogue she turns up with the most fashionable hairstyle, so clearly she's making up for lost time.

    • @Raven74408
      @Raven74408 Месяц назад +13

      I thought the same thing when I was little. I didn't understand why everyone was so mean, but this video made me realize the episode was intended as racial commentary and a lot of little black girls go through that. 💔

    • @_mimyohan
      @_mimyohan Месяц назад +2

      @@kerisaltchannel3817 I swear I see your everywhere lol

    • @Pinksatin-vl8jm
      @Pinksatin-vl8jm Месяц назад +3

      @@kerisaltchannel3817 To be honest, I really loved Francine's look!

  • @missprofessionalyapper
    @missprofessionalyapper Месяц назад +175

    Not the micro aggressions from the hair dresser!! Bro 😭😭
    Like always, excellent video!!!

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +11

      In the words of Muffy "So rude‼" 😭

    • @dinkyboss
      @dinkyboss Месяц назад +6

      @@missprofessionalyapper that was a MACRO aggression 💀😭

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +4

      And Thank You ‼

    • @missprofessionalyapper
      @missprofessionalyapper Месяц назад +1

      @@dinkyboss LITERALLY 😭

  • @thaconqueror777
    @thaconqueror777 Месяц назад +146

    I grew up hearing that term “good hair” I use to compare my hair to my sister when I was little. Then I started comparing my hair to others. I still hear it til this day. So sick of it! We don’t realize how damaging it is psychologically.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +19

      Exactly ‼ Any hair that naturally grows out the scalp is good hair to me. Now styling it is all about preference

    • @thaconqueror777
      @thaconqueror777 Месяц назад +4

      @@TonyTurner Agree! 💜

    • @lovelysakurapetalsyt
      @lovelysakurapetalsyt Месяц назад

      I hate my own hair not due to societal pressure luckily, it's just stupid and I can't seem to maintain it when I do everything I can for it. So I just wear wigs, they are a lot easier to maintain

    • @tan_ya_
      @tan_ya_ Месяц назад +2

      I dealt with this too from my mother. I didnt learn to love my hair until I stopped putting chemicals in it. It took my hair to be its nappiest for my hair to be its longest and healthiest.

  • @ReturnedLO
    @ReturnedLO Месяц назад +92

    "If only she had hair like yours."
    If only you knew how to style more than one hair type maybe I would've rated your hair salon business 5 stars Susan.

  • @lashundamartin7777
    @lashundamartin7777 Месяц назад +85

    This episode is so relatable for black kids, the hairdresser was very toxic but a good representation of how the adults say certain things towards kids that can effect them more than we know. It's always bad to compare children especially when it comes to looks. If we dig deep we'd be surprised by who and what played a part of our insecurities. Children absorb things like sponges and as adults we must be mindful and not make the same mistakes adults around us did. Great video Tony❤️❤️❤️

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +13

      Thank You‼Children are the most impressionable and most insecurities come from the way adults treat them.

  • @pusheenqueen519
    @pusheenqueen519 Месяц назад +81

    I remember seeing this as a kid and not thinking it was an afro, but an old fashioned shirley temple style. That being said, I can see why people see this as yet another example in media where the perspective is "curly hair is ugly/straight hair is pretty" and it's steeped in racism and BS beauty standards. I recommend anyone interested watching Good Hair and Nappily Ever After: one's a documentary and the other's a romcom but both go into the stigma of black women and the societal pressures to conform to white standards of beauty, focusing specifically on black hair.

    • @ThePrincessCH
      @ThePrincessCH Месяц назад +10

      I thought it was a perm.

    • @theagingmillennialvarietyh7751
      @theagingmillennialvarietyh7751 Месяц назад +1

      Same

    • @Razzberry_dollz
      @Razzberry_dollz 27 дней назад +1

      @@ThePrincessCHI’m pretty sure ithats what it meant to be
      France bob looks pretty natural after all so I doubt she gets it straightend

  • @nameisamine
    @nameisamine Месяц назад +92

    Muffy was the ultimate frenemy! I can’t with her! 😅

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +16

      The ultimate ‼

    • @geardog24
      @geardog24 Месяц назад +17

      She can’t be any worse than Dijonay or Lacienaga.

    • @SamuraiGirl02
      @SamuraiGirl02 Месяц назад +17

      Muffy isn’t intentionally mean-she’s just a bit innocently insensitive due to her sheltered background and age.

    • @SamuraiGirl02
      @SamuraiGirl02 Месяц назад +19

      @@geardog24Those two are definitely worse. Muffy means well at the end of the day-her sheltered background makes understanding situations of others harder.

  • @Neku628
    @Neku628 Месяц назад +27

    Muffy can't even be bothered to pay for her friend's makeover?! What a prick!

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +8

      After she peer pressured her ‼ Smh

  • @geardog24
    @geardog24 Месяц назад +72

    “Like it?” 😊
    “No.” 😕
    “I wasn’t asking you!” 😠
    Man, these kids…

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +16

      They do say kids are the most blunt

  • @LizWhite.
    @LizWhite. Месяц назад +50

    Pausing at 6:23 and I absolutely agree! I remember my family always had me and sister’s hair permed because it’ll stay straight vs dealing with the “nappiness”.

    • @DrawciaGleam02
      @DrawciaGleam02 Месяц назад +7

      I got that in my family too!

    • @Silburific
      @Silburific Месяц назад +9

      Me too! I stopped letting relaxers anywhere near my hair after I got a chemical burn that left me with a massive bald spot. Never looked back.

    • @LizWhite.
      @LizWhite. Месяц назад +5

      @@Silburific Same here, been natural for 5yrs now ❤️ I’m sorry that happened to you.

  • @anthonybatson7371
    @anthonybatson7371 Месяц назад +40

    I agree with you, Francine had great hair before and muffie was rude trying to tell her otherwise also I appreciate what you said about the struggle of as a kid trying to look good for picture day, I hated looking nice for pictures back then and I honestly had no idea the real struggle with hair, personally I think all black people have awesome hair styles, afro or straight, yours especially. I never saw this episode of Arthur but I'm really glad it all worked out and Francine stuck with knowing who she is, it's really cool you had the smart TV fireplace going in the background like in movies or cartoons when someone reads a story in their fancy study, now all you need is comfy recliner and your channel will be even cooler, but that's just my opinion, you do right by you my man, anyway thanks as always for bringing something important to our attention.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +2

      Thank You ‼🔥 working on some new things for the channel soon

  • @jahvonnad1738
    @jahvonnad1738 Месяц назад +6

    People and hair never cease to amaze me. I seen something with a woman putting locs in a young child hair. People are calling it lazy style. It's just ridiculous. Good review.

  • @LadyBern
    @LadyBern Месяц назад +19

    As a kid who was a tomboy like Francine i never thought about the good hair va bad hair but the pressure to be more dainty and feminine. My mom used to make me wear my hair in styles I absolutely hated, put on dresses and look prim and proper for pictures which I also hated.. picture day was terrible because i couldn't play, i had to sacrifice my joy just to get a picture of me pretending to be what i was not.
    To me, as a kid, i related to the experience of being forced to fit into an image someone else thought was suitable for me for a picture.
    To me it's not that the hair style didn't work because she didn't have 'good hair', but because it wasn't her, everything was muffy projecting on her so of course it all came out wrong. Of we were to apply hair types into the mix then i could say not all styles are for all haor types. But with my knowledge of hair (grew up in a salon) if she didn't use chemicals/perm to achieve a curl then she needed to use bigger rollers and comb it out a bit, instead she gave her a tight curl. Also where was all of that long hair supposed to come from? Francine had a flipped bob.

  • @Deer_abra1776
    @Deer_abra1776 Месяц назад +64

    Im cuban and Jewish and i always thought francine was a afro cuban who was jewish idk y and i thought muffy was just white

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +30

      Possibly‼ I think they left most characters open to interpretation so almost everyone could relate to them

    • @Raven74408
      @Raven74408 Месяц назад +1

      I see Francine as black and Jewish.

    • @yurironoue5888
      @yurironoue5888 Месяц назад +15

      @@TonyTurnerIn the episode where Francine wants to fast for Yom Kippur, we learn that her family is Jewish.

    • @haileybalmer9722
      @haileybalmer9722 Месяц назад +8

      I always thought Muffy was Latin coded when I was a kid. Probably because I grew up around a few Latinas who reminded me of Muffy. Long beautiful hair, great grades, extremely girly, very stuck up, always trying to remind us they were better than us, college bound... it's a type of girl I grew up with. I'm sure that type of girl is in every Latin community.

    • @Deer_abra1776
      @Deer_abra1776 Месяц назад +2

      @@haileybalmer9722 yeah a lot of my cousins on my mom's side were like that I just grew up around more white girls and a lot of them acted that way towards me but yeah I guess she could be either or tbh

  • @Neku628
    @Neku628 Месяц назад +24

    I wish we would get some more bald girl/shaved head girl representation, especially for non-white girls.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +7

      Interesting ‼ I notice that's really rare especially in animation

    • @Chelsea_E_Lindsay
      @Chelsea_E_Lindsay Месяц назад +6

      @@TonyTurner I think part of that is that many girl's shows are trying to sell dolls. One of the features of most dolls is being able to brush the hair, a doll without hair is "missing" a feature.

    • @Misanthropic_hellhound
      @Misanthropic_hellhound Месяц назад +1

      @Neku628 you'll love wetmoon. Most of the chicks have pixie or shaved hair. Alot are punk or tomboys

    • @skootergirl22
      @skootergirl22 Месяц назад

      Maybe if the girl had cancer like in peanuts

  • @BBC600
    @BBC600 Месяц назад +15

    I only took one high school level cosmetology and know that hair types really do differ greatly from person to person. Mine is naturally straight, but it really likes to take a perm. People are fooled into thinking I am natural curlly. I must admit I last went to my grandmother's stylist because my style isn't as common anymore and hers has been in the business for many years and is reasonably priced. She had lots of fun at my last appointment when I told her I trusted her and she could have at 'er. She gave it a feathered trim and then curled it, which looked really swell, in my opinion.
    In the case of "Francine's Bad Hair Day," the stylist should have been aware of what Francine's hair type might require and given her some realistic expectations whilst not being so rude. A client is a human and needs to be treated with dignity and respect. Also, I thought Muffy should've indeed offered to pay considering it was her stylist she took her to.

  • @madameblackimusprime
    @madameblackimusprime Месяц назад +9

    I absolutely resented that hair dresser for her hair comments. Like LOOK IN THE MIRROR MIRIAM.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +2

      With that Yorkshire Terrier on her head 😅

  • @_HannahSavage
    @_HannahSavage Месяц назад +12

    Man, on picture day in 5th grade my mom pressed my hair (after I begged because I wanted straight hair and she wouldn’t give me a perm). The sun was ✨sun-ing✨ that day and I sweat it out. The boys barked at me and called me a poodle at recess. I hated my natural hair for YEARS after that. 😭Kids SUCK.

  • @amiraavenetti3692
    @amiraavenetti3692 Месяц назад +7

    My mom always loved Francine’s hairstyle in this episode

  • @maybe8985
    @maybe8985 Месяц назад +31

    This show was SO black.

    • @skootergirl22
      @skootergirl22 Месяц назад +2

      They're anthropomorphic animals

  • @kaylad1669
    @kaylad1669 Месяц назад +12

    I can never understand how or why ppl hate afro hair so much!!! ESPECIALLY those who have that hair type themselves. I had my type 4 afro out today, and one of my family members was like “you look like a freedom fighter” and I was immediately like “NO”!!!! Afro hair does not equate to civil rights.. like what’s wrong with you?? Btw they also have Afro hair like mine, but they never wear it out in its natural state lol like just say you hate your hair and stop projecting onto me!!! Very weird behavior and it’s sad to see how deep the hatred goes! 😤🗣️ Y’all could never make me hate afro hair!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @natemorgan1996
      @natemorgan1996 Месяц назад +5

      I generally don't understand that shit either, i see nothing wrong with afro hair

  • @rollingonwards6472
    @rollingonwards6472 Месяц назад +23

    Okay I haven't had my natural hair a lot in my life due to illness but my natural hair used to be considered ugly by my father unfortunately, he even told me that he wished I looked like my sisters. They both had stick straight blonde hair and so did my brother. My natural hair was textured more than my Dad's beard and dark so I got tight braids. Now I just like to leave my hair free because I was bald so much of my life. I once tried to get professional braids but they treated me differently because I am a interesting Jewish mixture....I saved up for it too and then I felt like I didn't belong anywhere. Both grandmother's said it was horrible looking but not my Mom, she said I was created in the image of God so they shouldn't be so rude.

  • @you2angel1
    @you2angel1 Месяц назад +27

    😶 I really didn't compare the characters to human race they were just animal species to me.
    Each animal is beautiful unique in its own way and what works for one animal doesn't work for another.
    So I didn't see this as racist but I'm okay, I see where you're coming from.
    °~•.☆.•~°
    This is why we need others perspectives.
    Man this went totally over my head.
    Thanks dude.

    • @you2angel1
      @you2angel1 Месяц назад +4

      Dude even though I'm a military brat my mother stuffed me in a large dress with out combing my hair.
      My teacher had to cumb my hair their fingers until some GI saw her & handed her his comb.
      Photos count as a representation of oneself & that's what my mother presented to the rest of the base our first year 🤦
      Let's just say the following year I had better pictures.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +2

      Thanks for sharing your perspective and experience ‼

    • @you2angel1
      @you2angel1 Месяц назад

      @@TonyTurner thank you for listening, I appreciate it °~•.☆.•~°

    • @skootergirl22
      @skootergirl22 Месяц назад

      Isn't francine a monkey and muffy a hippo?

    • @nerdycurls6253
      @nerdycurls6253 Месяц назад

      They actually say for children characters need to be human for them to properly see themselves. So it makes sense you missed the intention, it's harder for children to catch the nuance.

  • @ThePrincessCH
    @ThePrincessCH Месяц назад +12

    Both of Muffy's parents have the same skin tone and hair color.

  • @IndigoFireFandubs
    @IndigoFireFandubs Месяц назад +3

    I was so pumped to see that you covered this episode. Great analysis!

  • @thomask9272
    @thomask9272 Месяц назад +5

    This episode made me uncomfortable as a kid. I remember sitting in the family room thinking, “Why did they give Francine such an old-fashioned hairstyle?” Now I think, “That hairdresser is so unprofessional!”
    Honestly, though, in the very last episode when they show adult Francine as an entrepreneur, they gave her a stellar hairstyle! Absolutely slaying!

  • @enolamsamoht
    @enolamsamoht Месяц назад +13

    Muffy was a ginger, I always thought that she'd be a full on white girl if those characters were human. And the same goes for Prenella the poodle girl, and the cat girl Sue Ellen. They all represent different variations of red hair it's just that muffy was the ginger with long straight hair usually only worn in 2 plats.

    • @skootergirl22
      @skootergirl22 Месяц назад +2

      Sounds like Sue Ellen is from South Africa. You know the white part of the continent

  • @RainbowWindchime
    @RainbowWindchime Месяц назад +5

    Usually Arthur was good at a lot as a series, and ahead of its time, but it’s really heavy how it’s taken a lot for it to just barely begin respect for curly, and coiled hair. I didn’t see much outside of tv trailers, but it made me feel horrible about my hair until I began to get to know it without ironing. Started letting people see me natural only. It was freeing, and I love my curls more than anything now. It just took a while for media to empower it. As I went natural some other curly haired people who were less woke acted like I needed to fix it, and I was just having an off day, until I began to express more. For boys 4c hair in my schools was kept short. Boys would get subconscious of needing a cut when there was barely any hair. Every color girl responded with “what hair?” It came across as if it had to be super short before it shows its natural form go much. I also see that in some Latino homes where colonizer influences are still in the home. That, and trying to seem richer, because growing hair out was made to be a “homeless look”, especially if males had curls. I always find it refreshing when everyone can embrace their hair, and if it’s short, it’s more of a choice than lack of confidence in oneself due to media, and generational trauma.

  • @MemoirsofAKaysha
    @MemoirsofAKaysha Месяц назад +3

    Always an interesting topic. First time coming across your page & sir, nice to meet you. I’m Kaysha. Second, great video on hair comparisons. You had me at the title & when I saw a black male speaking on the topic, you had me subscribed.

  • @vpenguin333
    @vpenguin333 Месяц назад +4

    As I mentioned before in my previous comment to your earlier Arthur video (thanks for replying, it totally made my day!), I definitely think that the characters in Arthur are written to be as relatable as possible, with only a few characters having certain cultural/ethnic/religious identities that are specified. The characters being animals allows for us to project onto them and relate to them in a way that is incredibly intentional. As a kid who had hair that was very different from their friends (that at the time was in the same hair style as Francine's), that was thin and short, and I couldn't do anything with.... I definitely related to Francine in this episode. I remember being so incredibly sad when I realized I couldn't have the cute corn rows with beads on them that a lot of my friends had, despite my friend and I spending a whole playdate trying to give me them. I think it's pretty universal to realize there are some things that our hair can't do without spending a lot of time, money, and effort on it.
    I think you bring up great points in this video, but I don't think Francine straightens her hair (so the curly updo isn't her natural hair style, whether afro or jewfro). I think that she has naturally straight hair. Her family doesn't have enough money to spend on getting stuff like a new soccer ball or bike for her, and she's not that interested in keeping her appearance a certain way (she'd rather kick ass at sports than care about her hair in this episode), so I cannot imagine the family perming her hair. I definitely think that Francine's hair is naturally straight and since it's short, there's just not a lot that can be done with it to make it look fancy, especially if Francine can't spend much money on it. (Maybe she's multi-racial and multi-ethnic so she's a black Jew who has straight hair because she's also got Northern European ancestry in the mix or something like that).
    Another great video! Thanks for posting.

  • @LSPtheFrecklefaceArtist11
    @LSPtheFrecklefaceArtist11 Месяц назад +5

    As a light-skinned woman family members pick on me because my hair is long thick and hard to detangle. I didn't get my hair pressed with the hot comb when I got into my tweens. I enjoyed my hair straight until I was in middle school. Dark-skinned girls like me much because of my looks.

  • @Marie-c1e
    @Marie-c1e Месяц назад +5

    Growing up I never thought of hiding my hair as a bad thing I just thought of it as being more mature. But as I got older I realized that your natural hair doesn’t have a timeline of when it’s ok to show it.The more black girls who hide they’re hair have a less chance of it growing longer keeping us in this endless loop of insecurity

  • @jasontutorials4809
    @jasontutorials4809 Месяц назад +4

    Explains why as a young kid, my family would always take me to cut my hair as soon as it starts to grow and form into a mini fro. Wasn’t until the pandemic when I decided to just let my hair grown, and now I have dreads

  • @Darkstalker1012
    @Darkstalker1012 Месяц назад +7

    I’ve went through the situation stated in this vid. I remember when I got my hair straightened (when I was little), curled, all dolled up, etc for my birthday or any special event, I would get compliments. But when/ if my hair was in braids, I don’t. It never bothered me though, because I style my hair for me, not for anyone else. It’s whatever. Though I understand why some people may feel subconscious/ insecure about it. Well, to all the natural, kinky, nappy girls (and guys) out there, only style your hair up because YOU 🫵🏾 want to, not to get girls/ guys, compliments, or any other of that nonsense..✨

    • @Neku628
      @Neku628 Месяц назад +3

      Bald and shaved head kids and adults also need to get a lot of positive attention. It's really insulting that women like Sinead O'Connor got labeled s crazy just for being bald. Same thing with Brittney Spears. Why did Brittney Spears cutting off all of her hair back in the 2000s meant that she was going nuts?

  • @jlouisa
    @jlouisa Месяц назад +8

    I can totally relate. I went to the same salon that was a lady in her house that later in a small business that was family owned since I was in middle school. Got my hair pressed and curled every two weeks. I only started to have braids put in when I moved in my twenties. I love my braids now A, because where I work, the press and curl would be sweat out after a day and B, my hair has grown out longer than I always wanted when I was a kid seeing people like Janet Jackson. Though I should have been doing the Brandy braids back then but mostly would have been expensive for my mom.

  • @nueshb4797
    @nueshb4797 Месяц назад +7

    I thought Francine's short hairstyles were cute.
    I'm still wondering why Muffy didn't at least get her dad to pay for Francine's hair either.
    Muffy's family is so wealthy that the idea of reheating and eating leftover food disgusts her. Why does she attend public school? 😭
    Cartoon characters that are canonically born into wealth don't always make sense. 😵‍💫

  • @Matty002
    @Matty002 Месяц назад +9

    that episode always rubbed me the wrong way. especially as a child of barbers, charging her full price for a mess of a haircut

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +3

      The prep looked so good and relaxing just to come out with those results 😲

  • @Neku628
    @Neku628 Месяц назад +5

    The cat girl also has curly hair. Also, I never saw Francine having curly hair since her hair seemed short and straight.

  • @kaylynnanson6231
    @kaylynnanson6231 Месяц назад +12

    I never liked that hairdresser, now I know why as an adult. What a rude woman! 😮

  • @KimberRose16
    @KimberRose16 Месяц назад +4

    I thought that she looked really pretty! I’ve always loved tight curls and would get really upset as a kid when people brushed them out or split them so her hair was very aesthetically pleasing to me 😂

  • @Hunnibutta
    @Hunnibutta Месяц назад +2

    Also I remember feeling Francine’s pain because I wasn’t allowed perms or extensions as a child but I’m better off for that now!

  • @Brayden4987
    @Brayden4987 Месяц назад +4

    You need to do a Madam CJ Walker video an the origin of how perms or straightening your hair goes back to slavery

  • @Hunnibutta
    @Hunnibutta Месяц назад +2

    Francine is Jewish. Some have Afros and curly hair too. They have lots of episodes where she’s explaining her culture. I used to love that about Arthur

  • @raedoessbvids
    @raedoessbvids Месяц назад +2

    Francine was my fav out of all the characters btw her hair was so beautiful it wasn't even bad 😭😭

  • @princessangel821
    @princessangel821 Месяц назад +6

    Me and my mother (I'm 32 btw and live on my own) still get into fights about my hair. I honestly think she has a personal issue with thicker hair bc anytime my hair is in its natural state, she won't stop going on and on about it. And tries to pressure me into getting a perm. It's gotten to the point where I braid my hair up when I have to see her bc I don't want to hear her mouth.

  • @K2SonicFan
    @K2SonicFan Месяц назад +2

    Happy you said it - When I was little and watched this, I though the hairdresser was just treating muffy different cause she knows her family has a lot of money so she wants the business, and she just treated Francine different because she wasn't muffy obviously. You bet if Muffy actually introduced her to the hairdresser as a friend she might have been treated differently esp if she knew muffy was paying for it.
    Honestly I think the hairdresser and muffy were the biggest opp in the episode. I'm kinda shocked we didn't see Oliver or the mom talk to Francine about her hair if i'm being real.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +1

      Right this was the perfect episode to have the parents talk to Francine about her hair or even her sister Catherine

    • @K2SonicFan
      @K2SonicFan Месяц назад +1

      @@TonyTurner I didn't even think about that. Have her sister enter in and maybe even show off some of her old photos so Francine could understand that her hair is fine and might even change as she gets older.

  • @vigetscreative
    @vigetscreative Месяц назад +2

    So im not black but my hair was really tightly curled as a kid so i had a little afro until i was able to grow it out when i was a little older
    I remember this episode and i always thought "curly hair was bad because it hurts to take care of it" because my hairdresser mom and sister had straight hair and so when they tried to take care of my hair it was always either "we just have to cut it off cuz its so bad" or "stop moving stop crying it doesn't hurt" (it did in fact hurt like hell)
    Crazy how hair care can shape people because now im super mindful and delicate when doing other people's hair because mine was not treated so delicately, not out of laziness but jus cuz the people doing my hair didn't know how and only knew straight-hair care

  • @BullShark-i2z
    @BullShark-i2z Месяц назад +3

    Some american indian nationalities (like, the Hurons) tend to have frizzy hair.

  • @devin5043
    @devin5043 Месяц назад +7

    I honestly had no idea about races of the Arthur characters as a kid and now I’m not sure… I really loved your episode on it.
    I have an opinion about a few of the characters races. I think Francine is mixed yet black her hair implies it with this episode. I kinda think Muffy is white but that’s my opinion Buster is white though can agree there. Arthur I don’t know but I’m glad I’m not the only one who hated his adult look. Not as bad as I hate Naruto’s adult look but I hate it a lot.
    A detail I liked is when she asked Arthur how her hair looked when Buster tried to answer she said “I didn’t ask you” she asked Arthur and while Buster ragged on Francine’s new look throughout the whole episode I only remember Arthur laughing once (it’s not 0 times but I wanted to yell at Buster to shut up 50 times as a kid and now).
    I’m white but I remember putting the pressure on myself every year to make every school picture day to look cute because god I don’t know why.
    For all Muffy says to know about hair care she should have taken Francine to a black owned salon (although maybe she did and they still sucked when it came to Francine’s hair it happened in Blackish).
    I loved the episode it’s stressful what parents do to their kids when it comes to their hair.
    I can’t wait for your episode on Muffy!

  • @Neku628
    @Neku628 Месяц назад +5

    At least, Francine's hair is manageable.

  • @Londiebeantown
    @Londiebeantown Месяц назад +3

    Thank you for this!!!!!

  • @you2angel1
    @you2angel1 Месяц назад +7

    😵 I loved the braids & Berets! I wish my mother would have paid attention to my hair like that.
    Damn like a dagger in my heart.
    °~•.☆.•~°
    I wanted to get a perm my mother wouldn't let me. God is good, because of her neglect I don't have damaged hair.

  • @jamalpettiway7891
    @jamalpettiway7891 Месяц назад +4

    Funny thing is Francies voice actress is a black French Jamaican.

  • @maytalacedo2942
    @maytalacedo2942 Месяц назад +2

    That is an issue when it comes to people of color but I do like how the episode Francine rather be herself then what other people think is a nice touch.

  • @izachi-chan2432
    @izachi-chan2432 16 дней назад +1

    Oh wow, I'm glad I wasn't the only one put off by every characters attitude in that episode. And I'm not even black, just a light skinned latina xD
    I thought it was so weird how a lot of girls had curly hair but only Francine's seemed to give eveyone that reaction. And also thought it was super inconsiderate of Muffin to not pay for Francine, seeing she was the one pressuring her to get the hair done.
    Overall, yes. The messages in this episode are timeless, specially for young black girls
    P.S.: that hairstylist is the devil

  • @youngblackgirlgamerxp
    @youngblackgirlgamerxp Месяц назад +1

    I remember this more for the ghetto Arthur skit than I do the actual episode
    ...
    Edit: this the video im talking about
    ITSREAL85 UNCENSORED CARTOON 12 (time stamp 2:01)

  • @meganshaw1949
    @meganshaw1949 Месяц назад +4

    Maybe the stylist didn’t know how to work with Francine’s hair as there are different textures and different methods on how to work with it.

  • @virginiawatts4.0gpa
    @virginiawatts4.0gpa Месяц назад +3

    I know this is going to sound like a controversial topic but I feel like a lot of TV shows on PBS were steered towards inner city children and children that exist in communities that are heavily discriminated against and Arthur may have been targeted towards children within the black community and they did their best to acknowledge things that we may experience within that community

  • @squishymellowowo
    @squishymellowowo Месяц назад

    When i was a kid in Earl 200s thousands I can relate to the whole Kitty perm. Trend, that was going on and some of my relatives, female relatives. They end up losing their hair because of changing their hair texture and Mother's in a black household will make you feel disgusted with your own hair texture that they will straighten your hair. In any way, possible to make it easily manageable. It took me years to learn to love my natural hair and the more I grow closer to loving my natural hair. The less I want to put heat under it now, naturally, I blow my hair out but I don't want to keep damaging my hair. This episode literally exposed colorism. In texturism, and I didn't even notice this as a kid now, the whole colorism thing I had no clue that muffie could actually be biracial or just light skin. I automatically thought she was just white when I was little, but when I think about it, muffie could be by Rachel, or she could just be light skin. This just really blew my mind😮

  • @ShizuruRavenRobin026
    @ShizuruRavenRobin026 Месяц назад +2

    I remember when I was younger my dad's side of the family would always have me go get my hair permed and stuff and there were several times hairdressers who were burned my hair and messed my hair up and later on I learned I had psoriasis of the scalp and doing all of the stuff that was done to my hair really made my scalp worse and as I got older thankfully I stopped going to hairdressers and stuff because the chemicals and stuff that we use perming my hair would just make my scalp burn even worse and now that I'm older I keep my hair short because it's easier for me to manage I would like to grow out longer hair and maybe at some point I will but my scalp is still somewhat damaged to this day it seems even what treatments are going through to try to heal my scalp

  • @DhaniNMarie
    @DhaniNMarie Месяц назад +14

    Speaking of Francine, I always thought she was bi. Like she had a "more than just friends" relationship with both Arthur AND Muffy. Wdyt, would you be willing to do a video about queer coded cartoons (Tinkie Winkie, Bert & Ernie, Timon & Pumbaa, Peppermint Patty and Marcie, Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi, Invader Zim and Dib, etc) one day Tony?

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +3

      Great idea ‼

    • @alaska4939
      @alaska4939 Месяц назад

      They are literally children.

  • @xavierjohnson2321
    @xavierjohnson2321 Месяц назад +17

    Never understood why Francine's hair was a problem in this episode due to it always being straight already. This now looks as if they don't know anything about black hair.

  • @YusukeKnight
    @YusukeKnight Месяц назад +10

    Good discussion

  • @GiftedSince92GiftedSince92
    @GiftedSince92GiftedSince92 Месяц назад +9

    Great video bro!
    Francine really had issues with Muffy. I always liked Feiabcibe for her girly and tomboy appeal. I love the red sweater on her because red does compliment her signature style. Muffy is an entitled spoiled brat.........period. She's a mean girl in the series. Muffy and Francine never got a long because of the differences. Having healthy and stylish hairstyles exist in society. I like Francine's and Muffy's new hairstyles. Their makeovers were really good!!! But their toxic friendship......it just got out of hand. Muffy's snobbish attitude toward Francine's fashion just shows she's in "competition" with her. Francine is in her own lane just like her....but Muffy just is a hater. So......I have issues with my hair over the years but I do my best to sustain it. I will say this it's a learning process of how we take care of ourselves. This episode is one of my favorites because it's eye opening of the "standard of beauty". Keep up the amazing work!!! 💖

  • @ItemHazard
    @ItemHazard Месяц назад +2

    We need to normalize that afros are beautiful too.

  • @abiliv-lf9tz
    @abiliv-lf9tz Месяц назад +3

    Dawg why yuh hadda make meh realize meh hair trauma 💀
    So every since I was young like 4yrs probably younger I doh remember-- my mother was always tryna straighten meh hair n comb it and it never worked
    Gel never worked in my hair
    My hair was getting steamed every weak and my mother would blame me for my hair coming out the way it did
    Imm pretty sure all the stuff she was doing to my head damaged it
    And I still hate my hair 😮‍💨

  • @midnightcartoons2004
    @midnightcartoons2004 Месяц назад +1

    This also happened in Winx Club with Aisha and Total Drama Island with Leashawn and dear God everything about it was toxic as hell both characters had afros ppl started to make jokes about it their damn hair 🤦🏾‍♀️but I'm glad cartoon media today embrace black hair

  • @aquaruisangel
    @aquaruisangel 19 дней назад

    You’re right though cause thats Francine! I love her being herself and that hair was not worth it I was so happy when she chose to get dirty at the end AND her hair looked better lol ❤

  • @medtle1
    @medtle1 Месяц назад +1

    I remember that episode. I thought muffy said that she wanted the hairstyle Francine got but she ended up with the hairstyle francine selected, so i thought the hairstylist just swapped each other's hair style selections because of their hair lengths. [I don't think that makes it any better though.] I didn't see anything wrong with Francine's hair, even if it could have looked better if she had a more competent hair stylist. Prunella and sue ellen had curly hair, so they could have helped francine with her hair if she asked them (if she didn't want to ask her parents or sister). Also, i never liked how muffy forced francine into getting a makeover for picture day and having her pay for it herself. I get not wanting to look dirty and disheveled on picture day, but francine didn't need a makeover to do that.

  • @virginiawatts4.0gpa
    @virginiawatts4.0gpa Месяц назад +1

    The wild part is I believe that having a child with someone who has hair like yours with a combination of a child like mine's would ensure really strong hair but I don't want to have children literally my uterus is an un,hospitible environment for children outside of my uterus I love children so much so that they love me back so much I have a wall in my room covered in their artwork

    • @virginiawatts4.0gpa
      @virginiawatts4.0gpa Месяц назад

      But unfortunately a lot of people believe that having a child with someone who has hair like yours foresee or hair like someone like my brothers who is foresee even though me and him share the same mother that gave us the influence of the Caucasian Gene we both came out with different hair I've noticed his hair is heavily discriminated against and he is heavily discriminated against and I'm a feminist I believe that women receive a lot of discrimination in the place of men but I've noticed how my brother has received discrimination in places that I don't I received privileges in places that he received discrimination because my skin is lighter than his and my hair is a different texture than his

  • @diamondmaddox5
    @diamondmaddox5 28 дней назад +1

    Lmfaooooo I fell OUT at 4:02

  • @brandyloutherback9288
    @brandyloutherback9288 Месяц назад +3

    I'm sorry, how was Francine's picture day hairstyle supposed to look bad? It was beautiful. I think Francine is supposed to be multiracial but Jewish? They have a Yom Kippur episode, and they mention a bar mitzvah for Francine's cousin.

    • @brandyloutherback9288
      @brandyloutherback9288 Месяц назад +1

      Also, the Brain is meant to celebrate Kwanzaa, in an episode?

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah Brain celebrated Kwanzaa in the Christmas special

  • @Demolitiondude
    @Demolitiondude Месяц назад +1

    It's not a beauty standard. Not all haircuts works for everyone. Francine's afro just didn't work for her plain and simple.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад

      Some ppl thought it did. You see how that works?

    • @tirramasu7948
      @tirramasu7948 29 дней назад

      BTW what animal are muffy and Francine

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  29 дней назад

      @@tirramasu7948 Monkeys

  • @skootergirl22
    @skootergirl22 Месяц назад +2

    Anthropomorphic animals = race

  • @saffyesperas2278
    @saffyesperas2278 Месяц назад +1

    I believe that Natural hair is good hair, we just need to take care of it and if our hair is naturally curly and wavy, then go for it, if not then it may not be the right fit for you.

  • @timberwolf4698
    @timberwolf4698 Месяц назад +1

    Would you do a video on Cuties leaving Netflix?

  • @virginiawatts4.0gpa
    @virginiawatts4.0gpa Месяц назад

    When I was a child from (0 to 9 & 13) because I was in Ohio I decided to try to assimilate with my family that was white because I mixed and my friends that were white cuz I decided that having friends that were white where better. I decided that if I had friends that where white people would treat me better but the truth is having friends that where white meant that I was viewed as the one that had the bad ideas in the group but I was almost kicked out because I was ruining their fun I was trying to advise them to make better choices forever future

    • @skootergirl22
      @skootergirl22 Месяц назад

      How can you be in school as soon as you're born?

    • @virginiawatts4.0gpa
      @virginiawatts4.0gpa Месяц назад

      @@skootergirl22 the discrimination I have at zero since you are curious.( I'm sure the not tho I'm sure you just ate here to try and disregard my experience)
      I was premature and in an incubator. my whole family and the hospital had to practically fight a woman to let her know I needed to be in there. My vitals were terrible and i nearly lost my life but to that woman screamed at the top of her lungs that I ( a baby) had no right to take up space from a child that needed to live. There was only one difference between me and the other children in incubators.

  • @Jwayspillz
    @Jwayspillz Месяц назад +3

    I swear Muffy was an opp and did she always have a gap?

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад +1

      Lol a few seasons in they got rid of her gap

    • @skootergirl22
      @skootergirl22 Месяц назад

      Think het design was based on a hippo

  • @undertaker9991
    @undertaker9991 22 дня назад +1

    Yeah. Those subtle discriminating undertones.

  • @brooklyn5755
    @brooklyn5755 Месяц назад +1

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @Man-wolf-
    @Man-wolf- Месяц назад

    Im jewish myself-jewish ppl can be any race including Black so francine could be both

  • @Restless318
    @Restless318 Месяц назад

    hate the shade

  • @abiliv-lf9tz
    @abiliv-lf9tz Месяц назад +2

    Dawg I hate my hair
    4c 😭

    • @abiliv-lf9tz
      @abiliv-lf9tz Месяц назад

      Gel doesn't work in my hair ;-;
      Hair moisturizer don't work ;-;
      My hair is a fricking "jus add water" deal and if I want it soft I gotta comb it every week or sum ;-;

    • @SugarSista820
      @SugarSista820 Месяц назад +9

      You don't hate your hair, you just don't know how to take care of it. I have 4c afro hair and I was in the same boat. Every hair moisturizer I tried dried my hair out and would leave white flakes in my hair. I also was using lots of oil in my head as if it's a moisturizer but that actually dried it out more. Now after 6 years of going completely natural FOREVER and finding what works I finally love and accepted my hair for what it is and I wear in it an afro or twist, mostly an afro everyday. It's connected to my identity and my roots as a black woman. I won't trade it for anything and we need to lead by example by wearing and speaking positive about black hair.

    • @SugarSista820
      @SugarSista820 Месяц назад +2

      What works for me are these things if you want some help, it also takes no time. Black hair is not hard to maintain.
      - Dunk your hair in water under the shower while you're showing everyday, water is amazing for the hair. Just get all in the nook and crannies gently, moisturizer ALONE will not moisturize your hair fully.
      - Stop wearing bonnets, buy silk pillows and silk sheets
      - Stop using oil, oil just dries out your hair.
      - Only shampoo once or twice a month cause shampoo just strips your hair of all moisturizer and other things that are good for your hair.
      - Stop brushing and combing your hair all the time unless it's wash day, you're just pulling unnecessary hair out BUT if you absolutely need to then always use a moisturizer. Never comb or brush dry.
      - All I use is one product. Shea Moisturizer Coconut & Hibiscus curl enhancing smoothie. Use a lil glob a day for my afro and it makes your hair cloudy and soft right after soaking your head in the nice warm and steamy shower water. It last about 3-4 months if you buy the big container and 2-3 months if you buy the regular sized container.
      That's it and that's all, hope it works out for you.

    • @pusheenqueen519
      @pusheenqueen519 Месяц назад

      I think 4c hair is lovely, but then I've never had to learn how to maintain it. Frankly I think techniques on how to nourish all hair textures should be the norm, not trying to make it seem like everybody ought to want to have straight locks or hair care companies acting like there's only one kind of hair type.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Месяц назад

      Embrace it the best way you know how ‼